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^^ that video....Mokole is the most northern Yoruboid dialect in west Africa.

Speakers of Mokole live in an area almost on the same lattitude as the city of Zaria in Nigeria.
I wonder how they got there.

Cool

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Hmmm

goaldynboy:
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[color=#000000]AFONJA claiming Ipob [/color] Igbos say they want out, you are employing shameful tactics to cling to them! Is Igbos the air you breathe?!

lol, and who is holding you please? see the way he even typed the Afonja in upper case as if it is meant to pain me or somehting.lol Children and weak minded adults everywhere.
Have you ever seen any Yoruba group come out to rally for Igbos not to go to Biafra?

When people ask you people critical questions, you people will say such a person is employing so so and so tactics to keep you from going. Whearas pressing issues raised remain unaddressed.

Na una abi o.

Ugosample:
I have nothing more to say.

Ogun state and Oyo state that I know or another one?

In commerce, Anambra and Oyo are not mates at all.
Even in infrastructures

Ogun and Abia state?
Well it's hard to say, because Ogun state has industrial estates due to its proximity to Lagos, the big market, and Abia state has the big markets too and some industrial estates as well.

The only thing os Abeokuta in a way has better infrastructure than Aba. (the main minus for Aba tho)

ok sure.
lol I ain't got time for arguments this morning.
Just here to state facts and leave.

Ugosample:
The SW or just Lagos?

Because I don't see how Ogun, Osun, Ekiti or even Ondo states can have a bigger consumer market than Anambra or Abia

Anyways is it not Nairaland

Anybody can open his mouth and say anything

So in your mind Ogun and Abia or Oyo and Anambra have the same consumer market size.
Clap for yourself.

Aufbauh:
This is why i don't want to follow the lunatic Cownu to biafraland

Even if i dey sell gala and lacasera for this road, i go hammer money sharpaly....

Me too nko? I am facing the same issues.
The South West is by far the largest consumer market in Nigeria.
In Biafraland , who do I want to be selling okrika cloth and my pirated CD disks to? is it wawa or Imo people who are all average civil servants or Ebonyi people who are as poor as church rats?

What is Nnamdi and co planning to do to keep the more than 20 million Igbos youth that will be heading back to SE occupied? by then, the era of village rallies and shouting "Afonja" all over the street would have been long gone.

Diabetes or Cancer... smh

@9jakool

^^ I think you might be mixing up Political homogeneity with cultural homogeneity.
Ekiti never coalesced into a single large Yoruba state like the Oyos, Egbas or Ijebus, but they are surely culturally similar even in all their small ileto ileto that spread all over.
In Ekiti for example, you will almost never see all those names like Amoo, Ajani, Amoke, Ajadi, Adio, Akanke, Abeni, Alake, Apeke etc but they are very common in central west yorubaland irrespective of clan. How then can you distinguish the Iseyin man who is onko from the Ogbomosho man who is Epo (Right bank Oyo)

Again let's look at something like tribal marks which is Universally absent in all Ekiti lands, but present in most of western Yorubaland irrespective of clan. How would you have been able to distinguish the Sepeteri man from the Oyo atiba man, when both have hge gombos and Abajas decorating their cheeks?

Music nko, Egbas and Oyos rely heavily on the gangan family and occasionally the bata. Their music is characterised by heavy loud /explosive drumming. In Ekiti, music is more sonorous / drawn / "dirge-like" oriented with lots of "Ogbe" (voice backups). There are other instruments involved that you will usually not seen west past Ilesha- like slit drums. I know what I speak of.
So how can you distinguish a song from Abeokuta from one from Ibadan? they basically sound alike.

Thats just the point i was making.
These things go deep. so while you might be right on the fact that the Ekitis are politically fractured unlike ome other Yoruba groups with well known centralized communities, their culture is actually more similar than you might think.

The Ikole part, you should have mentioned that you were referring to some villages in Ikole (The local government), to distinguish it from the town , which was what I thought you were referring to.

Nice reply btw.

This was when Ojukwu was enjoying retirement money benefits from Nigeria.

9jakool:
An Ekiti person would like to say that they are homogeneous since there is an homogenous Ekiti state. In reality, Ekitis are one of the most non-homogenous/inconsistent Yoruba subgroup there is. Ekiti parapo was an alliance of the 16 kingdoms that forms Ekiti. Akure is one of the 16 kingdoms of Ekiti. This immediately shows you that Ekitis are not as homogenous, which is evident in their dialect. People of Akure speak a distinct dialect.

lol, no Yoruba group is 100% homogeneous, let's not deceive ourselves, Yoruba is a dialect continuum spanning from Itsekiri into middle Togo. Within this continuum there are blends and blurry areas.
If you say Ekiti is one of the least homogenious Yoruba groups what then will you say about the Ijeshas , Egbas or Oyos?
For example, where does Egba end and where does Egbado begin? Where is the boundary between Egba and Oyos?
How about Oyos, are they different from the Ibarapas? where is the area between Oyo and Ibolo? Where dos Oyo end and where do the Onkos begin? and then between the two where do they share a boundary with the Shabes?

Akures speak about standard Ekiti. Ikere, Ado and Akure, no difference in how they talk. Their music, their livelihoods, their love for Iyan, some of the other foods they eat etc.

There are many variations within the Ekiti dialect in itself and there are some variations outside the core Ekiti dialect that are very hard to classify as Ekiti. The people of Moba (Otun) speak a dialect that is closer to Igbomina. The dialect of Efon (Efon Alaaye) and Ekiti West (Okemesi) is similar to Ijesha. The people of Omuo-Oke in Ekiti East speak a dialect similar to Ijumu in Kogi state. The people in Aiyede in Oye and Itapaji and Irele in Ikole are not even Ekiti, but Yagbas like those in Kogi. @scholes0

You do realize that saying Otun speaks a dialect close to Igbomina is only stating that in relative terms, right?
It does not mean Otun speaks exactly like Igbominas, but is closER to Igbomina THAN OTHER Ekiti speech... comparatively speaking. But it is still Ekiti.

Besides Be it Igbomina, Ijesha or Yagba all are still central Yoruba. A Yagba man will have a better time understanding an Ado Ekiti man than he will understanding a man from Ikenne, if they all decide to speak dialects.

Who says Ikole isnt Ekiti? Elekole has always been a prominent Ekiti king, what are you talking?
Omuo Oke, Omuo Obadore and Ikole are all classified as Ekiti dialects., including Eriti, Irun and Ogbagi in Ondo.

babaolofin:
I am from Ogun State but my mother is from Ekiti. I know Ekiti & Akure very well. You are still repeating the same thing.People reading your piece might be keeping quiet. I am a Yoruba man, I am not talking about states. My postings on this thread had been based on the location of Igbo Orunmila in Ijebu Land. You can continue.

you didn't even answer my question.
Akure is what culturally, if not ekiti? Before the creation of states, Akure, Iju, Ita-Ogbolu (Akure North), Ilara mokin, Isharun, Ijare, Igbara Oke (Ifedore) Ogbagi, Irun (Akoko North West) were all culturally Ekiti. And they still are.
Till today Igbara Oke is in Ondo state while their Igbara Odo twin are in Ekiti.

As for the Igbo Orunmila part, all I know is that the section of the original writeup that referred to it as the old name of Ijebu Ode is wrong.
It could be anywhere else, but it is not Ijebu Ode.

babaolofin:
Firstly, your writeup might appeal to so many people reading it especially to those who don't know. Firstly, Akures are not Ekiti culturally. Even in Ondo State, Ondos are not Akures culturally despite the closeness of the people to each other. They still have differences & Ekiti is different here. I think your classification of people based on states created by colonial master or military is not valid. Also talking about dialect and major language is a wastage of time. Historical foundation of a people is what determines the tribal group the people belong to. In Yoruba land there are so many dialects even up to Togo. The fact that Sobe or Ifon have a dialect does not mean they are not Yorubas. I believe during migration, inter-marriages, etc , dialects can change. All the towns that originated from Ife have different dialects, naturally, they should be speaking the same language.

What are you talking about? If Akures are not Ekitis culturally, the what are they?
Are you from there?

Ondos and Akures belong to different groups, I never claimed they did. Ondos are Ondos, and Akures are Ekitis. simple.
I am not classifying anyone based on any colonial state border, if I did, I would have called Akures people Ondos, because they are now in Ondo state.

Ekitis are also in Kwara, does that make them any less Ekiti?

Ifon speaks Yoruba and Yoruba only. Sobe speaks Sobe and Yoruba, with sobe being an edoid language.

einsteine:
Since your reply was devoid of specifics as to how the people in Akoko Edo are being marginalized, there is no need to continue this discussion any further.

Keep continuing with your faulty notion that Akoko Edos are supposed to be in Ondo State.

Since you want to be spoonfed.
Nigeria: Akoko Edo LG Neglected, Marginalised
http://allafrica.com/stories/200309300418.html

Akoko-Edo in Diaspora Protest Non-inclusion in Development Projects

It is alarming to note that this is not a systemic approach at neglecting one of the oldest local government councils in the country. If, we from the South-South are shouting of marginalization and neglect in the entity called Nigeria, what the state government has done to Akoko-Edo is worse than the neglect of Niger-Delta region over the year. It is common knowledge that Akoko-Edo is well endowed with mineral resources and arable land for agricultural plantation products. The mineral resources are currently being extracted and shipped out of the area to develop other parts of the state and country. This is similar to what is presently happening in the oil-producing areas of Niger-Delta.

It is the opinion of Akoko-Edo citizens in the diaspora that Akoko-Edo as one of the oldest councils in Nigeria and the least developed in infrastructure or commercially requires urgent attention by Comrade Oshiomhole and the incoming government to open up the area. This will reverse the neglect and forestall potential uprising as being witnessed in the Niger-Delta creeks where the youths have taken to arms to call attention to the plight of their people.

https://www.facebook.com/AfenmaiConnect/photos/pb.1421216244849264.-2207520000.1472695653./1565888443715376/?type=3&theater

EDO NORTH SENATORIAL DISTRICT: THE IMPERATIVES FOR THE AKOKO - EDO PEOPLE

The issues as I see them are these: No Akoko - Edo person nay Igarra has ever been senator in the history of the senatorial district and that is serious; conservatively you need at least the sum of Three Hundred Million Naira to get to the Senate unfortunately again; the hard work begins after you are elected senator; you need men of influence and power to get things done for your constituency at whatever level how much more the senate in a country where the already scarce resources are surreptitiously deployed to build personal empires and fiefdoms; the only thing constant in life is change and men do change for good or for worse; Victor Hugo wrote "a man is not idle because he is absorbed in thought. There is a visible labour and there is an invisible labour"; no privileged class ever lets power go on a platter; it must be wrestled from their grip; Akoko - Edo is the oldest Local Government Area in Nigeria today; other local divisions in the old Midwest State are now 2 - 3 Local Government Areas.

Akoko – Edo Local Government Area was one of the original divisions created in the old Midwest State for administrative convenience in 1963. It is disheartening that all other divisions have since metamorphosed into two or three Local Government Areas, even the State has since become two, with the Deltans taking their fate in their own hands when history beckoned in 1992 and today they have the “big heart” where their dreams and aspirations in the old Bendel State find expression, while Akoko – Edo remains one.

Akoko – Edo has only undergone change once, when in 1967 the Midwest became Bendel State it was re christened Akoko – Edo Local Government Area from the earlier nomenclature (Akoko – Edo Local Division) with which it was known. Apart from this Akoko – Edo remains the only Local Government Area in the federation that has remained pristine since independence. The consequence of this is that Akoko – Edo has been much marginalized. A clear example of this marginalization is this Senatorial seat issue.
The mosaic I will paint now is a model of what has happened to the Akoko – Edo people in every facet of their existence in a State and Nation they call their own.

http://random-stephens..ca/2010/07/edo-north-senatorial-district.html

Akoko-Edo is the largest, is the most marginalised and probably the most impoverished local government in Nigeria and it will continue to be like that until we change its configuration and the only way to do is to create additional local governments.

https://guardian.ng/politics/akpatason-has-not-done-enough-for-re-election-says-bankole-balogun/


What say you?

Nice one.

Kindly explain details of the marginalization you keep talking about.[/quote]

einsteine:
You are clearly the outsider here.

My mom is from there and I don't understand where you got your narrative of marginalization from.

Don't they have someone representing them at the Federal House of Representation? Haven't they held top positions both nationally and in Edo State?

Only an outsider would keep saying Akoko Edo and Akoko in Edo State have anything to do with each other. They are just neighbors, that's all. As neighbors, many have learnt the yoruba language and even adopted Yoruba names. It doesn't mean they are Yorubas. Go to Somorika, Uneme Nekhua or Igarra and tell me their language is Yoruba or they are kin to Yorubas. There is a village called Sobe on the road from Akure to Benin. Are they Akures because they are close to Akure and can speak Yoruba?

Kindly explain details of the marginalization you keep talking about.

First and foremost, stop the BS! the fact that your mother hails from there does not mean you are versed in the people, their desires and their aspirations, nor does it mean you know much about them.
You are clearly the outsider here, because if you were really connected you would now that Akoko Edos complain bitterly of marginalization and lack of development/attention from government.
Did you even read the first page of this thread, a girl there mentioned that they are marginalized and you are asking how? maybe you should ask them why they feel as such, especially since your other's relatives would be able to answer you effectively.

Somorika and Uneme speak their languages as well as Yoruba / pidgin as languages of wider communication. Igarra does the same except that their local language is a dialect of Ebira. If were to go purely by language I think we better start getting ready to make Igarra a Kogi state enclave in Edo state then, abi na? The Ijaws and Itsekiri lands in Edo should be transferred to Delta.

Secondly, Sobe is not close to Akure, Sobe is close to Owo, and even closer to Ifon. they speak a language similar to owan dialects as well as Yoruba language. I won't call them Yorubas unless they call themselves such. Ethnic identity is fluid and subject to influences. They are not Akures either. Akure is not an ethnic group, Akures are Ekitis culturally.
That area is part of the Ondo-Edo border region, and there are influences from both in the entire area as well.

Eating meat last in a meal is not a Yoruba thing.
It is an African thing lol, and it is mostly because meat is expensive!
So it is mostly just a matter of how rich a family is.

crestedaguiyi:
what of the abobaku, is it not also a cutural rule
what of skull mining
what of jungle justice
indi ara

KingOvoramwen1:
jesus

Haters club ... see them.
They have arrived in full force to serve the Yorubas, Kings of the South.
Made up of Igbo kidnappers / Drug mules and Edo witches / wizards... Holy ghost fire consume them wherever they are gathered.!!!

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Alexis11:
Hahahahaha....

Now this is funny! I've never seen any Yoruba man dead or alive that said this.

Wait, why am I hearing this from you first

loool, I knowww right!
Which Yoruba anywhere has time to be complaining about imaginary hate from every corner, either real haters or otherwise ? We are proud!
we are not Igbos, they are the ones who complain of being hated by everybody, them against the world.

SoldierBoy1:
I never said any tribe hates Yorubas, I only said it's only on nairaland I see guys manifesting hatred for other tribes.

lol, he is here formulating cock and bull story based on the state of his own mind. He is projecting the state of his own mind about Yorubas to other tribes, as well as to Yorubas themselves.
saying "Yorubas said" or are complaining of being hated, when in actuality no Yoruba ever said such. looool

Nairaland na waa.

einsteine:
Yes. They are more related to people in Edo state. They have no brethren in Ondo state.

So why are they marginalized in Edo?
They are clearly not being accepted (Well, at least not in full).

You claim they have no kin there, I believe you are talking as an outsider. The average Akoko Edo man is more comfortable as a man, in Oka Akoko or Ido Ani, than he is in Benin. We have many Akoko Edos living here already, and they blend in perfectly with absolutely 0 issues.

einsteine:
Ogbeni, uneme language is not even intelligible with yoruba. As someone who speaks both languages, I can assure you that the people of Akoko Edo are not kin to the akokos of onto state. It is just faulty nomenclature.

And what exactly is wrong if they are in ondo state?
what are they getting in Edo state so far?

Must state composition be based on primitive tribal and linguistic differences?

BushDoctor123:
Ekpedo should learn to live peacefully with their neighbours and stop this land grabbing attitude.They are landlocked between the Bekumas on the west and Ekpe on the east with Ogori in kogi state on the North. The Ekpedo's are always at war with these communities except Ogori which they couldn't defeat in warfare even though they exterminated and conquered Oke Ola village.

The Okpameris and the Unemes should learn to co-exist together abeg.
Besides, in the last conflict, The Bekumas were the aggressors.

Uneme towns are still blacksmiths till today, although most of the younger ones have migrated to big cities and no longer engage.

For those who care to watch, here is a short documentary on Ekpedo, the chief Uneme town as narrated by Oba J.A Obabori.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNHSPPgguL4

Post about Interesting festivals joor.

Like the Orumaval of Bekuma and Lampese that is very similar to the Oro festival that Yorubas celebrate in neighboring communities


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ6pwl8o1ho

dominique:
My friend from Akoko complains that they're the least favoured in the state in terms of appointments and infrastructure.

Yes it is true. They are the most Marginalised section of Edo state, the Owans come a distant second. Both groups are supressed and starved of development.

They are seen as Yorubas in Edo state and to be honest a large portion of their ancestry is from Yorubaland. Hence, they are delibrately made to play second fiddle to the Etsakos (Auchi side) in Edo state.

The best option for them will be to agitate for their re-inclusion into the South West where they will be welcome with open arms, together with the rest of their Akoko brothers already there.
Imagine Akoko Edo are still managing one local government when their brothers in Ondo already have 4 whole local governments to themselves.

In the entire history of Ijebu Ode right from the time of Obanta who founded the town, up till now, there has never been any Oba (Awujale) who went by the name Ogiebo.
Besides, I doubt there was anytime in history Ijebu Ode was ever known as Igbo Orunmila.

Itegboje is probably referring to another town completely.

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OUT OF THREAD... for now.

It was Fun!

Benin Oba and the benin palace in general have always envied Yorubas.
lol
Their petty Oba of the time even had a serious altercation with one of the Yoruba royal returnees that came back to Benin because he chose to wear a crown fashioned in the glamorous Yoruba style instead of the dudd Benin one, and this one is there trying to claim Ondo and Ekiti like they give a rat's ass about Ibinu land.

A Lagosian, An Akoko man and an Ekiti man have all rejected bini's landgrabbing on this very same thread, and this one is still here daydreaming...

KingOvoramwen1:
Abeg if Edo carry all the Ediod tribes in Ondo and Ekiti, Ijaw carry their own, Ijebu carry their own, Emirate carry their own even Nupe and Ebira carry their own..... ABEG WETIN GO REMAIN OF THIS GANG CALLED YORUBA?

Lmaooo. lame comeback.

NOBODY wants Benin keep dreaming!

Even the Ishans are now revolting.... I give it 20 years.