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Little boy. Lol. Lemme humor you and show you just one account balance. Not even assets. It's coming down soon
This is just ordinary me, not to talk of where men are. You are just wretched and it's affecting you.

Too much insults makes you sound classless and stupid.
I love how the guy follow you dey argue with logic and not going dirty with you,
Such arrogance!

Afromentalist:
Like I said the headquarters had to be placed somewhere. It could have been either in Germany or in France. The fact remains it is not a (solely) french company and it is a known fact. There are American companies that place their social headquarters in the Netherlands or Bahamas. Will you call them dutch companies ?

Will you call Burger King a Canadian company just because they changed headquarters for tax purposes ? Or Budweiser a Belgian Company ?

Airbus is a European company. Germany and France even have a contract with respect to dividend and taxation in this regard.

You don't just put a bluechip company's Headquarters SOMEWHERE like say na music studio.
France has the second largest tax rate in Europe after Denmark ,so the rational place to put the company's headquarters would have been Germany to save cost and make more money,except for French dominance on ownership.
Majority shares in airbus is owned by SOGEPA,which is a french company.
11% of a €10B equity.
Q.e.d
Airbus=French,shikena.
I asked you a question and you're yet to answer,Where does Airbus repatriate their profits to before sharing?
Do you think Germany will just accept you to take the company's HQ to France or SOMEWHERE if they owned the original rights of the company?
America is a very capitalist country that allows its businesses to do as they please,Europe is the exact opposite.
So you can't move a European company's HQ to just about SOMEWHERE and expect the parent country to let you be.
Even if its a JV that other country's investors later come aboard,they must host the HQ and gain that influence and revenue stream.
Ratan Tata could have easily taken JLR hq to India as it would have been cheaper for him if it was that possible.

Afromentalist:
Airbus is not a french company. That the registered headquarters are in France does not make it a french company. The headquarters had to be registered somewhere and all of the countries could not host the headquarters. Germany and France have a tax agreement to this extent so it is of relatively low importance.

Airbus is a European company or at the very minimum a German-French company, each state owning about 36% at inception.

With HQ at France,where is the company's proceeds repatriated to before sharing?

GamalNasser:
I hope you understand the data you posted ? It 737s would have made 16 million flight before 1 accident is likely to occur while the A320 makes 14 million flights before one crash , the 737 is 2 million flights safer than the a320..please stop use the errors of the 737 Max to stain the stellar reputation of the 737 family ..i still don't consider the Max a 737 model, that aircraft basically a 737NG fitted with a CFM leap engine not designed for it and that's where the problem came from ...

This is a 737 that got is roof blown away in mid air and still made a safe landing with just one fatality..can you beat that

I admit,I was wrong with my statistics.

Goahead:
Airbus is not French, it's a joint venture of different western European countries. The headquarters is in Toulouse, France, but with manufacturing facilities spread out in Germany, the UK, and Spain with final assembly in France.

So because Toyota has manufacturing plants around the world and a couple of Wholesale partners and retail investors trading its stocks on the stock market,It is no longer Japanese abi?
Why then is the headquarters in France then?
Where do you think airbus as a corporation repatriate its profits to before sharing?
So with this few hints,which country now owns the company?

Goahead:
I see why we still have air accidents in developing countries, we tends to cheat the systems by not following standard safety practices and regulations.

There's no cheating here,I am talking alterations straight from the factory.

GamalNasser:
Boeing 737 is the safest aircraft ever built , they had tethering issues with just one model the 737 max because it was rushed into production to stall of competition from a new Airbus

How can the 737 be the safest aircraft in it's category when it has killed 346 precious lives since 2017 ?
Airbus A320 has killed only 7,
So what's your point?
The 737 has a crash rate of 1/16million while A320 has 1/14 million ,and this is just mere probability statistics.
So use your numbers inclined brained to tell us the audience which is safer with the above numbers.

Goahead:
Lol, aircraft is not a computer you can buy external ssd or ram to make it more useful. This plane in question does not have a variant with a more powerful engines that will offset the weight of a bigger fuel tank. When you increase the tank thereby making it heavier without creating proportionate thrust to move it forward and bigger wings for lift, you'll end up with an inefficient money pit since you're going to reduce your passenger and cargo capacity. Profit is essential in this industry bro.

How much will 2000km worth of extra fuel range weigh that they have to alter the design for?
Max 7ton extra.
So they now will have to increase the wingspan and put bigger engine and reduce passenger capacity because of 7ton more weight?
You think say aeroplane na Hilux abi wetin?
You don't need to increase wingspan to accommodate more fuel,you can put the extra tank in its belly.
As for the lift issue,all it will only change is it's V1,meaning they'll run more on the runway by a minute percentile to hit V1 and go airborne.
All these differences are insignificant oga for 7ton worth of extra fuel.

patrickcollins:
China aircraft sourced the major components like engines, tell me what America and France aircrafts source

Airbus(French) A380 outsourced its 4 huge engines from ROLLS ROYCE which is British made.
Boeing outsource it's engines from Rolls Royce and General electric too.
What's your point

Kingsley10000:
We sell Howo truck parts.Trust me,it's the best among all in all ramifications.

How I wish I can buy Chinese electric car

No mind them,easy straight to the point unlike needless European technology that ends up being a menace and money pit for operators.
If its not durable like they claim,why are they now taking over Nigeria and the rest of Africa brand new truck market scene?
It would sell even more in gringo land as it would save their operators so much cost and make them more money,but gringos will use politics and "safety" claims to protect their local producers from collapse because them dey fear China.
Some people and blind consumer loyalty makes me want to throw up honestly.
America banned Hilux when them see say it was a way better car than their GM and Ford nonsense, them use safety as excuse ban am
Even landcruiser too them ban am because them dey fear make Japan no come throw those their GMC denali and cadilac escalade ugly crazy trucks,
So landcruiser is not safe and roadworthy too abi?
How many people landcruiser don kill for UK,middle East and the rest of the world?
Is their peasant consumers better,richer and safety conscious than Arabs?
Fucking gringos.

Bigleaf1006:
I have people who are into trucking and they tell me this......chinese trucks are way cheaper but aren't as durable as the other known brands......

Then explain to me how a CNHTC Trucks that have been here since 2011 are still in operation if they're not durable.
Let me tell you why the European and American trucks are considered durable by some people.
Most times,they're very old models(20yrs+) with cheap knockdown parts everywhere littered all over the markets by "ndi na gba Germany"(Importers).
So to get cheap after market parts is easy and accessible unlike HOWO that are mostly new and you have to get brand new replacement parts for it from approved dealers which is expensive,
So people like your uncle now go to ladipo and buy the aftermarket(fake) parts and damage the truck in the process under a short time.
Else explain to me why Dangote,BUA,honeywell groups uses only HOWO to haul heavy goods such as Cement and flour and the trucks are still serving and they keep going back to buy more Chinese trucks?
Will these people do this if the trucks weren't durable or underperforming?

Goahead:
It was never designed for that journey, it's more like a regional aircraft with its just over 4000km range.

Oga ,if I'm buying the plane brand new and I need a range of 6000km to satisfy the market I want to use it for,
All I have to do is to tell the manufacturer and they'll give me bigger tanks for more range.
This shouldn't be hard to understand na.

Bigleaf1006:
But their quality is nothing compared to mark,Daf,Iveco,Mercedes etal

Can you prove this?
Because I still see HOWO trucks that have been here since 2011 and are still running fine.

Goahead:
Shut up, the plane is not entirely Chinese made. The engines, avionics, hydraulic systems and flight controls are sourced from the west.

There's no company on earth that produces all its components,
Even boeing and Airbus outsource some things too so I wonder what your point is.
If it is built in China,then its Chinese.
End of story!

CSTRR:
Besides, planes are used for 20yrs or more.

I don't trust the Chinese material science community to provide that level of structural guaranty at this stage of their devt

lol this guy,you dey reason China less less because?

Goahead:
The C19 is not a long-haul aircraft, it can't make it to China from Nigeria without a stopover in the middle east or Europe where it's definitely not gonna be declared airworthy.

They can put more fuel tanks in it,happens all the time.
Besides,Iran is also in the middle East and not a western asslicker like the rest,Chinese planes will land there and refuel

GloriousGbola:
I said commercial

I was referring to companies that make commercial jets for mass transit.

Most of the companies you have listed make smaller planes for private individuals/entities . A commercial jet will be bought by an airline and the risk/exposure to the owner is much greater.

Why you would assume that I don't know what commercial aircraft is still baffle me.
All the companies I listed all make commercial aircrafts for mass transit except Bombardier.
Swallow your ego and learn,cheers.

CSTRR:
The product was too advanced and require more training for the pilots.

There is something called "too much technology".

Lies,it was designed to take angle of attack reading from one sensor only instead of the standard 2 sensor failproof smarter thing to do.
So when one sensor is faulty,it will send faulty readings to the aircraft and Bleep up auto pilot and lead autopilot straight to the ground or lie to the actual pilots and lead them to their doom!
Too much technology my ass.

GloriousGbola:
This is the first time I am learning that China makes a plane. All I have ever known about commercial aircraft is boeing and airbus

There are many commercial planes from different countries.
Brazil Embraer,Ukrainian Antonov,Swedish SAAB,American Boeing,French Airbus, Canada bombardier,American Macdonnel Douglas,French ATR(now airbus),etc...
So why not China?
Aircraft Engineering isn't as complicated as gringos want us to believe so they can continue to monopolise the trade and milk its operators by inflating prices.
Trust China to cast them price wise

kushma:
Hope it won’t crash while in use, just joking shaa but why don’t Nigerian government invest in that sector and try producing ours after all that’s how china started and now they are world giants in production of these gadgets.
Vote Peter Obi for good governance
2023

American made Boeing 737-800 max with faulty MCAS was falling out of the sky and killing people almost daily,stop being naive.
There's no expert in engineering.

luizpippo:
He probably expected to be sold some on credit so Buhari can ask that the debt be canceled few months later.

You want to buy planes that are not certified by any other aviation agency except that of the manufacturing nation, how do you fly it around?

Would it be jumping over those national air spaces?

Ease of getting spaces, technicians and crew is a factor to be considered.

Even the russian Tupolevs and Illushyns are not being bought by just any airline despite being around for decades.

Nigeria Air can use it to fly Nigeria-China route that has so much traffic and hence more money for the Corp.
Everything must not revolve around the west to be profitable,open your mind!

internationalman:
Nigerians won't enter. We are the most scared people to die on earth.

Same reason I've yet to see a Chinese made car in Nigeria.

HOWO ,JAC ,Greatwall(Trumpchi),CHANGAN,etc..
They've basically taken over the Nigerian brand new truck market.
Open your mind.
E go shock you say this aircraft will even be better than its predecessors.
Chinese people are very smart!

What is this about?

3 weeks.

Alba3:
Little education would have saved you from publicly embarrassing yourself online. So it's the government that's forcing the importers to use Lagos?

Profit margins are what's driving business. You move your goods close to major markets and major users like industries, etc. If you want to move your goods to a place like Calabar you pay more for transportation, insurance and other logistics.

No one is stopping you from using other ports in PH, Calabar so far it's cheaper than hauling your goods from Lagos.

Finally!!!Thank you.
Nigerians are very dull,so much so that it's sickening.
Have they tried to use calabar,rivers port for business and anyone stops them?The answer is no.
You don't expect shipping companies and large terminals to move to ports with little commercial traffic and charge low,they make up for that deficiency by inflating costs.
Then people in the business do cost analyses and most times chose lagos Cos it's cheaper to receive products from there and truck it to your location and some dunces here are saying nonsense.
Little wonder Nigeria is so poor,too many airheads in one space,tueh!

CaptainAyub:
Some women were brought up in love and peace,the ability to 'feed well' from day one being an added advantage.
Such women will grow up to be loving,temperate and calm no matter how much money they have or how high a position they occupy
Some were brought up in rancour,hunger,katakanta,papa beat mama everyday,etc
You already know how Such women end up.
Sometimes,it is as simple as that.

Very true,another very vital angle .
Reason I support looking critically at a woman's background first before marrying her.

MALIGNANTGuest:
You also have a point.
But i was trying to prove that beauty and professionalism has got nothing to do with peace of mind. U may sleep beside the prettiest woman, yet you are not sure of your next morning
I have come across beautiful ladies in top management positions with fat bank accounts, yet they are not happy. I engage them in discussions and i realize a lot. Though not all.

True ,I accept that.
Most times it's women at the low end of the food chain that offers the most peace.Why?
Because they're probably nothing on their own and wouldn't want to bring antagony that'll most likely end them up in the streets.
I wouldn't trust that kind of peace if I were you.
Ladies at the peak of their careers will most likely have entanglements with loneliness and hence,lose their happiness in the process.
Why?Men love youth,feminineness and women that they're bigger than so that the status gap can serve as a control mechanism.
But with a woman at the top of her game,you'll lose all these leverages and hence will find them unattractive.
So most responsible men or the kind of men such woman will want will avoid her for gold digging never do well boys to feast on.
You expect a woman in this spot to be happy?

MALIGNANTGuest:
The way you GUYS type marvels me alot.
IF it is beauty that sustains marriage then PASTOR CHRIS OKOTIE'S 1st and 2nd wife wouldn't have been driven away.

We really need to educate you Guys on how marriage differs completely from wedding ceremony and relationships.
Despite all some people do on Nairaland to educate you Guys, you Guys are not still catching up. Hmmmmmmmm!

The number one priority of a MAN is peace of mind. This could be gotten from the least expected women like those hawking "AGBO" in the streets. Those hawking local food items.
Such women know how to treat men. If such women catch your husband, 4get about him.

Don't expect a lady in a new generation bank to know how to treat a man. Such ladies are already heading towards the bad side of FEMINISM. The reason is simple........ The more a lady is pushed away from her traditional tenets, the more difficult she becomes towards giving in to respectful characters.
Ladies rarely handle fame successfully without denigrating men!.

A woman in a new generation bank will panic and bend when she knows you've got way more options,and maybe see you with another way prettier woman in management of say an IOC.
She go fling feminism out of the window and start trying to takeover her man.
What can she do?Cheat?To what end?with who?She'll even be scared of how you'll respond to her misdemeanours and act in line.
Women start to carry shoulders and act all sorts of ways when she knows you've got little to no options.
If you get levels as a man,you'll bend any woman beneath to your will.Where issues come up na when the woman pass you,better go look for your agbo sellers in peace.
No be agbo sellers dey fight with their draft playing Husbands for street till them naked?
They do this because they are equal or even above the man.
You think If an agbo seller marries a professional banker,she go open her mouth?
Hian!

Gofwane:
See the type of lady he brought into his house. Damn!

Omo that guy head no correct I swear,kai!

thesicilian:
Or maybe he should be contented with his wife and not have a sidechick at all

I didn't say he should have a sidechick but if he must,then she should be better.

Yes true,another aspect is stretch marks and protruding belly.Tell them about this too as it's a huge turn off for most men.
Most women tend to lose personal hygiene when they get too comfortable, looking very dirty and miserable.
This really has to stop!

This isn't a sidechic but a brothel hoe ffs!
Some men can be really tasteless and classless.
If you want to have a sidechick,please give your wife a beffiting competition by picking a woman way prettier,smarter ,classier than her and not something like this that'll make her see you as a man who isn't worth anything in the dating pool and hence she starts thinking so low of you.
If you get a better woman,she can only adjust upwards to win back your attention and get you back all to herself.
All she can do is cry,pray,change for better and strive to be better,but with this kind of local champion I see up there,she go just balance well well and take the mantle from your "optionless" ass.