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ednut1:
the story is not entirely accurate. Yemi alade refused to travel without them. It’s common for band members to japa. The embassy just wanted to see their financial tiee back home and it wasn’t provided because who ever applied for them thought being under yemi alade is enough . See example below

Yemi alade refused to travel for a show that's probably going to pay her good money and sell her seemingly dying career more overseas because some expendable band members were refused visa?
I am shocked that you of all people can be this naive.
What's stops her from continuing her trip and hire more band hands in CA and use a few days to rehearse?
Stop this kind play abeg.

ednut1:
her staff not her was the reason for the refusal. And she could not come alone .

I doubt this,
If so them for reject the staff visa and not her.
Clearly,she has funding problems.

Gofwane:
Jesus christ! I just got an alert of 5k. My God! I'm just speechless.
I will never forget this. Thank you so much sir.

No reason am boss,
Happy Sunday bro.

Gofwane:
Oh my God. I am just short of words.
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May the universe be kind to you. I truly appreciate you sir.

sent!
Cheers mehn.

Gofwane:
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Thanks alot. This is my no 08092229986

I understand.
Life can be hard sometimes, but it's all good.
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Cheers mehn.

IbomFinest:
Na cruise guy you be. You no be serious person... Na my time wey I waste de vex me sef

So you don't know one way to measure a world class company is via welfare of staff?
One guy for one of the hensek company profile photos belt go round his waist two and half times and holes for the belt finish,e still use biro dey burst another holes for the belt so that e go fit buckle am and them say na their head of operations.
If head of operations fit dey starve like that ,na em be say lower staff fit dey waka like people for walking dead.
Omo I shout whaaaaaaaaooooo!!!

IbomFinest:
To clear your doubt, the name is Hensek Construction Company

Make them first pay their staff well first so that make them for see better food chop,then we can talk.
How world class construction company go dey,all their staff ,the bone weh dey their neck and head dey show finish?Nobody for the whole worldclass company get meat for body.
Na fasting them dey do for there?
Hensek ko,world class ni.Clown.

IbomFinest:
A little of research would save you the embarrasment. Google is readily available for such enquiries.

I didn't need Google to know who Julius Berger is.Their works spoke for them.
Why should I Google your world class indigenous construction company that has been doing wonders like you claim?
I guess this tells all the difference,day and night.

Nigeriafirstlad:
The reason why JB is attractive to them is because JB is a dubious company. Kickback can be done in several ways to launder money.

A governor can pay 90% upfront for a road project or flyovers in Nigeria and receive 20% of the money as kickback in Lebanon offshore account or Dubai offshore account.

That's how they operate and it becomes impossible for anti-corrupsion agencies to trace because of the complexities of the transaction.
you will only understand when you are involved.

What does all these you are saying have to do with you proving that state governments bought Julius Berger stakes so as to have them launder money,when they can just award them contracts and have them move their kickbacks to any country of their choice?
Also ,I've been meaning to ask you this since but your naive responses have been making me feel like you will have a hard time giving a reasonable answer,reason I've been dragging foot but I'll go ahead and ask you so you can go do your research and leave me alone.
Now,what kind of company(especially one of repute like JB) will accept investments from states that it is meant to use to expand ops and make more money for itself and its new partner (the states in this case) so as to launder the money?
How will it now generate profits to pay the state for this investment when the working capital has been laundered?
What now happens when power changes hands and someone else comes and hold them accountable for their non performing investments?
Does this look like a good deal for JB?
If not,why will they accept it?

As for your last sentence, your incoherence alone is enough for me to think that you're not involved in anything of this nature, because your emptiness is alarming.
I'll stop responding here,don't bother to quote me again.
Cheers.

Nigeriafirstlad:
Prove of the bolded. Mr man be calming down.
The country is gone.

You said State governments invest in JB because they could use them to launder money and you're showing me screenshots of bribe distribution allegations and kickbacks to JB as proof of states government laundering money via JB?
They(State governments) can still receive bribes or kickbacks from JB without investing in them na,so how does what you're saying hold water?

Aren't you lost in your own argument like this?
And I'm very calm,trust me.

IbomFinest:
We have a world class indigenous construction company in Akwa Ibom State. Come to Uyo and ask questions.

The worldclass indigenous construction company in Uyo no get name?

Nigeriafirstlad:
You sound frustrated sir, express your points without being arrogant and rude. My post didn't insult anybody.
Don't forget the reason why the company is attractive to some state governors is because they also use it to launder money.

The more you look the nothing you see.

I am a very fulfilled man and I never insulted you to the best of my knowledge,perhaps you just hate it when people correct your naivety with realistic and foolproof counters.

You can't prove the bolded,besides it'll be easier to use a local company with similar corrupt Nigerians heading it to launder money than a foreign one with different people with different ethics,don't you think?
If your point was valid,state governments would have invested more in Nigerian companies than JB.

muykem:
I am 100% agree with you. Honestly, you have made a valid point but I want you to know that we still have indigenous companies that ready to work and have showed capacity and integrity also.

I agree,if they have like you say,then they can command huge upfront payments like JB too.
It's a free market.

[quote author=Nigeriafirstlad post=115030816][/quote]There's nothing to learn here.
Julius Berger left Germany to Nigeria and started on their own and developed capacity,showed reliability and gained massive trust before the Nigerian States found it attractive and profitable enough to be a great investment for their state.
No one buys a stake in a company with no numbers to back the investments up either as a good one or not.
And numbers don't just fall from the sky,it takes years to develop them and as a catalogue of work done and value the company has created as track record.
Why don't you build your own construction company that state governments will find it attractive to invest in?
Or you think JB pioneers were sleeping in their houses before states came to invest in them?

muykem:
it's a pit my brother. Do you know that we have such companies but we will never encourage our own. I am a contractor, our company is COVROCKS LTD. State government is paying 80% upfront to a foreign company while they are not ready give us 30% upfront as indigenous company. They will even frustrate you to get money for work done.

I will pay JB 80% and not give you even 10%.
It's not bias,it's simply capacity and trust.
JB has shown that they have the capacity to handle such funds diligently and cannot elope or default with government money and will deliver for what has been payed for by the government or individual.
But most of una,if them give una contract,una go dey look for inspectors to bribe to report shoddy jobs as good and using government money to buy mercedes for your girlfruends.
Show capacity and command respect and funds,
Take this emotional bs away from here please.

Nigeriafirstlad:
After more than 70yrears of transferring our common wealth to Germany, Nigeria can not establish a world class construction company that will compete with Julius Berger or even send them packing. Very Sad.

Welldone Mr Project.

What's stopping you from building your own Nigerian owned construction Company that can rival JB?
Or you think it's the German government that owns JB?

My only motivation is profits,
Me and passion no get any business.
Just building up liquidity for something great that one might stumble on along the way that can generate even bigger profits.
What I'm truly passionate about is to retire in my 40s and be able to live very well after that.
Work no be food abeg.

VeryWickedMan:
Show us her corpse

I thought same too.
Until we see her corpse.
It's a possibility that she's known how much trouble she could be in since the man is dead and fake her own death.
We want proof of death!

cococandy:
Very correct. That’s true.

But I’m not omitting any details. That’s why my initial posts says traveling the right way. If he’s traveling legally meaning he had a job offer before he left, or admission to higher education that offers path to employment after graduation or green card from a family benefactor etc. those are all traveling the right way. Those people are recognized by the govt and won’t have to scrape and struggle to make it.

Traveling the wrong way is

1) coming for visit and overstaying your visa.
2) Coming for education and refuse to leave after you graduate.
It seems like that all we talk about when we talk about immigration. Because people are leaving the weird and not straight forward way.
Then yes you will suffer and do minimum wage jobs to get by.

Again remember I and 1stgenamerican are talking about legal immigrants. Not wayo corner corner immigration.

I was also talking about legal immigration.
Higher education isn't free,whose gonna pay for him?
Your guess is as good as mine.
So he had to work and pay his tuition and living expenses,
This will take time.
Then after that ,job hunting takes another time too before you settle.
7 years don pass.
You'll not start making great money from the start except for very professional courses which cost way more to have school wise and takes more time.
Before you work your way up and start making decent income,get a mortgage and things like that,time don go well well..
He would have done more in Nigeria with that 10 years and won't need a mortgage then,e go just go lekki buy house..
Well,long and short of this is for everyone to suit themselves.

cococandy:
No they do not need 7-10 year if they are leaving legally with a green card, work permit or even possible citizenship .

Mind you I’m speaking from an American perspective. I don’t know anything about UK. I do realize they are very different. So if I’m wrong it’s only about UK. Someone from the UK can correct me.

As a new grad after I finished school here, I started with over $80k/yr with no experience. (States are different and I’m only speaking for my state as well. Red republican states are notorious for poor pay, so I encourage Nigerians who live there to leave and come to the side of light ). It’s been years and obviously the price has gone up. It definitely doesn’t take years upon years.

You had a benefactor,
It would have taken you a lot longer had it not been for "you know who" and you were struggling like everyone else to work minimum wage and pay for your tuition and living expenses and IRS.
These minor details you keep omitting makes all the difference.
And I'm not insinuating anything,just discussing.

sunboy:
Let’s say he’s super smart and have good connect, he will still burn Atleast 2-3yrs lol and remember studying in the Uk is not automatic residency o, unlike Canada that have a straight path to residency.

Baba you're very generous with time.
It takes way longer than that to fully blend but make we just assume say grace dey.

cococandy:
if they are really starting afresh then it’s different. But someone with a professional background, experience and skills will not technically be starting afresh. They might need a year or two to assimilate but they’ll be ahead in a few years and won’t regret it.

And like we already agreed on, it’s only for those who know what are doing.

A year or 2?
Which kind play be this?
You'll burn better 7-10 years to catch up,no jokes.
Have you also thought of what he or she could have done in Nigeria in that 10 years growth wise?
If you're young 18-24 without anything substantial or a clear cut achievable vision,you can move.
But anything above that is most likely setting oneself up for a lifetime of "averageness".
No be beans to leave third world country to go and be exceptional in the most capitalist nation in the world.
It happens on very RARE occasions.

cococandy:
Most won’t give digits because y’all will claim they are bragging. So let’s rest it.

I do agree that if you know what you’re doing you can stay back. I’m not an advocate for everyone to leave. But I won’t be among those doing salary mathematics to condemn those that leave .

Leaving a 24m a year job to go and start afresh in a place you've got no leverage is daft.
People also grow in Nigeria from 24 to 30 to 50 to 100,
No be only for Anerica them dey grow.
Anybody that earns that with income security won't even consider moving so I don't even know why I follow una dey argue.

1stGenAmerican:
Smaller cities still have the same wages for companies like Amazon.

I’m serious with life and you’ll probably say you are too but I’m 100% sure that I save more than you earn in an entire year. You’re a very negative person who tries hard to see the worst in everything so you’ll feel better about your life. Now I’m really finished talking to you. Stay out of my mentions.

So every immigrant in the US will work in amazon right?
This your confidence sha,e no good to dey talk like this for faceless forum
Be careful of careless statements like these.

1stGenAmerican:
Exactly. The majority of the people I know make well over minimum wage and none are living hand to mouth. I see what you meant about them telling themselves what makes them feel better,

And you’re right again. If we posted salaries, expenses, and savings they’d call us liars so the point is moot.

It's always what people they know make...
What of what you make?
It's easier to start from there.

cococandy:
why would anyone give you their personal information like that?

Even if they did y’all would say it’s a lie anyway. So what’s the point?

Rest,most won't give because the digits aren't impressive.
If you know what you are doing in Nigeria,stay.
If you don't,move.
It's that simple.

1stGenAmerican:
Typical Nigerian who resorts to insults and obscenity when challenged.
Big lies. Big, big lies. They tell those lies so they won’t have to send money home to families. No grown ass people are renting rooms.

See above where I calculated where a couple can still have over $15,000/year after expenses and in smaller cities, they would stay with more.

I no longer care to debate with a negative person who resorts to insults and obscenity just because they’re called out on lies. Stay out of my mentions. Goodbye

Smaller cities means smaller income.
For you to make good money in smaller cities,get ready to work like Jackie.
So to you $15k savings a year(highly debatable) is so big abi?
How much do you think someone serious with life earning 24m a year in Nigeria can save?
If e no save 12m ,make I know wetin cause am.

1stGenAmerican:
After taxes and expenses, there would be a sufficient amount left to live a very good life and save a bit. Then in February, this same couple would probably receive a tax refund check and if they have any children, they would receive a sizable tax refund of over $5,000 which may double if they had more than one kid.

Can you define very good life madam?
It's like you like to throw words around anyhow.
Someone on minimum wage will live a very good life in the US?
People(Nigerians)in this income bracket in the US are barely surviving.
They're still renting rooms or shared spaces,zero mortgage and are taking buses and eating McDonald's and fucking ratchet Akata losers.

NemoDatQuod:
It may not be a fabrication. Last September, one of my best friends left Nigeria and a salary of N36m with a bank and came out here with his wife and children for a masters degree. He is about completing his thesis and has no plans of going back to Naija. If you are hardworking, professionally educated and you are not a Nigerian thief, you will quickly realise how so very dangerous that country is.

Moreover, N36m is about £48K in Pounds. An individual who is a professional should be able to make at least twice that in a year, after a masters degree. Their children will go to schools that have already been paid for by the taxes taken from every citizen. They will be relatively safe compared to Nigeria. Naturally, they have had to give up some stuff to come here. The huge house in Lagos and the camaraderie between friends and neighbours in Nigeria which they may not be able to replicate here. But at least they will still be alive and their children will have a chance at life, meaningful life where if you work hard, you can become the best you can be. And you don't have to become a Nigerian thief to be successful.

chief,getting a £96k white collar job in the UK no be beans,the average is around £50k.
And I mean professional jobs.
Remove tax and living expenses and you'd see that someone earning N36m in Nigeria will save way more.
Your friend is either not making N36m like he claims or isn't sure of the longevity of the job that paid him that.
Most of the people I know with secure jobs of 2.5m a month in Nigeria have their wives and kids in Canada and they're funding them from here.
Make una take am easy!

1stGenAmerican:
You’re right about that. The myth of working 2-3 jobs like a dog is just a lie people tell unless someone is in either country illegally.
Example: Amazon in the UK and US will hire just about anyone over age 18 who is in the country legally.

Here in the US, Amazon’s minimum wage is $15 per hour, even for people working from home and it’s $10-11.76 per hour in the UK.
A couple without any higher education in the US legally who are authorized to work can stay home and each work 40 hours a week for Amazon (overtime is optional and sometimes unlimited). So without working any overtime:

USA
$15/hr x 40 hours/week= $600 x 2= $1,200/ week
$1,200/week x 52 weeks/year= $62,400 annually in the household

UK
$10/hr x 40/wk= $400 x 2= $800/wk
$800/wk x 52 weeks/yr= $41,600 annually in the household

USA
Overtime = 1.5 of hourly salary
Amazon Overtime for a Minimum Wage Worker in the US is $22.50 per hour

UK
Amazon Overtime for the lowest paid worker is $15/hour

Remove living expenses and IRS money and tell us how much will be left.
If you want argue ,you can start by telling us how much you've saved in dollars since when you moved to America since you say its so easy to make money in the states.

Munamoqel:
really come to Lagos some even earn less .what do you think is the salaries of British white in British international school lekki ? There even an Italian that sell shawarma in polysonic mall apapa he still here and am sure he doesn't make 24m per year. How about the one in international NGO .the 24m make them live like Kings with Driver ,cook and security's they can't afford that even with 500k income in America.

I hardly follow all these dreamers dey argue nonsense.
I do business with multinationals with a lot of European staff(many are my friends),most earn 1.5-1.8m per month and are very happy with it and won't leave those jobs without a fight.
One of the many advantages of those expats in Nigeria is they not having to pay income tax to their countries,infact most pay zero tax and they love it so much.
When you start hearing Nigerians shouting japa and quality of life,know that they're not making any good money and their future has started looking bleak.
No one untop of his game relocates for any reason!
As for the 24m relocation story,just ignore.
You're leaving Nigeria for oyibo to employ you as what?you will definitely land low end jobs and survive most likely,rather than thrive.
As for the girl that quoted you,I ignore people like that cos they're always very unrealistic and want to use the fact that they're in America to feel better about themselves over someone in Africa.Their biggest achievement is being abroad.
The question you should have asked her is how much is in her account as at now,since she claims its so easy to make money in America.
Clowns.

Bobxin:
Depends on the model year, that GLC could be 2017, '18 or '19 whichever one, it's still not up to #36m

That is the 017 model.
E no pass N20m,if very clean can go for N22m.