₦airaland Forum

Pakute:
All these stories are trash. Nobody has denied Aworis were from Ife but the question is, when the Benin migrant came, were the natives not there?. I ask again, How did Yorubas chase benins away from Lagos?, why is Yoruba language and culture predominant in Lagos?, why are the Yoruba the land owners in Lagos?, why are they the ones selling land in Lagos?, How many benin have a family house in Lagos?. These are my questions i want benin people to answer, otherwise, everything na empty noise.
i am looking for the historical account of how Yoruba chased Benin out of Lagos, pls, anyone with the document shotld send me a link.

Read you said no, the Benin mainly used Lagos as a trading port, Lagos was an oversees territory for the Benin kingdom. Funny how a kazeem from Kwara thinks he knows more of Lagos history than a direct descendant of the ruling royal family.

Iamgrey5:
For avoidance of doubt

Please check the map properly, one will see that when coming from Bini through the sea one will have to pass through Epe and Ibeju before getting to Lagos island and Eti-osa.

There is not a single land in Eti-osa that belongs to any Bini decendants.

So how on earth can you be the finding fathers of a place and those that came to meet you on your land now have more land than you?

How come you also speak their language not the other way round.

History has it that people who journed in a strange land often assimilate the language of their host, except the people coming in are the conquerors

So why is Lagos an exception.

Apapa the was under the control of the Oyo empire oh. See link below

https://wappp.org/our_publications/nigeria-the-apapa-gridlock-challenges-and-solution/

before you guys claim these people are the founders of Lagos, now a direct descendant has come out to teach you kids history that the Benin kingdom founded Lagos , now you want to shift the goal post, guess you know more that a royal descendant of history, one thing I notice the people who dey carry this matter for head are mainly APC and tinubu urchins who aren't even from Lagos traditionally, yet they want to teach you a history of the land when they are migrants.

Never4getU:
She herself not a bonafide Lagosian. U can't distort our history or rewrite it for us. The dosumus aren't aboriginals of Lagos.

The Dosumus aren't even Awori their forefathers are Benins reason she's trying to steal Lagos for her linage but we refused to accept this as our history is clear and in sooner time we must make available to the general public of our origin to Lagos and the Benins are obviously delusional

even the oba of Lagos clearly stated Benin kingdom founded Lagos

Waste of Resources, imagine the cost of hotel rooms for over 1400 people in an expensive city like dubai, feeding for over 1400 people, flight tickets for over 1400 people to and fro Dubai, logistics and other cost for over 1400 people, it was just a vacation and a get together for them, the climate change submit was just an agenda to lavish national resources on a foreign getaway.

mariahAngel:
I was going to post it, then it skipped my mind.
See it.

my favorite forever

mariahAngel:
It's true ooo. 😯
It's probably mad at me by now. 🥺

I was surprised.

mariahAngel:
Pic 5. Plantain pottage.

This is one very nutritious dish.

you didn't add dodo, which is the most popular way to eat plantain.

omlueh:
Shuaibu! Shuaibu!! Shuaibu!!! Please and Please, Just Forget This Your Ambition, It's The Turn Of Edo South (Ishan People) To Produced The Next Governor Of Edo State, Oshiomhole(Edo North); Obaseki( Edo West) and Now Is Edo South Turn, So As A Loving Brother That We All Are, Please Kindly Let Go Of This Your Desired Ambition Your Are Seeking For.

Edo central you mean, obaseki is Edo south not west.

Omoawoke:
See Yorubas doing things

This is no doubt, the most successful women across Africa are Yoruba women. Not Nigeria but Africa.

Do you know why?

It is the culture of respect given to women by Yorubas. Since the beginning of time, Yorubas value their women and have their women leadership roles, women are keepers of the shrine, and even yoruba goddesses are well respected.
Women were given leadership roles in government such is Iyaloja.
Women are not seen as just baby factories unlike some other traditions
Yoruba recognition of goddesses like Yemoja, Osun shows the way we value women.

No wonder the African richest woman is a Yoruba woman

Some people are so envious of this and did not know Rome wasn’t built in a day, they are so bitter they started to hate what they can’t have and started the stupid hate speech “that their own mothers are dirty” e no go better for all of them

she isn't Yoruba, can you crawl back to your hole.

forgiveness:
Before the entity called Nigeria, SW already had Lagos port and it was generating billions of naira (based on current evaluation). I am talking about as far back as 1890s. Look the list below to see those inhabiting Lagos then.

who were the Eko tribe that made up 20 percent of the population then?

neither the aworis nor the binis can lay claim to the entire Lagos, the aworis had their territory in Lagos the binis also had their territory, Lagos is a state just like osun, just like you have the Ooni of ife who governs the ife territory of osun state, there are also other traditional rulers in the same osun, you can't come today and claim the ancestors of the Ooni founded osun state they only founded ife, same can be said about Lagos and how you guys always try to make it look like the aworis controlled the entire Lagos, the binis also had their territory, which means the oba isn't wrong.

BreconHills:
Oyo Kingdom?

ok maybe in size

Raf4:
You're too emotionally feeble for this discussion. Can you mention a single Bini influence on Ile-Ife or anywhere in Yorubaland? I can show you numerous Yoruba/Ife influences all over Bini, starting from the name of the City, to numerous Yoruba ancient surnames all over Bini to Yoruba gods being worshipped in Bini etc. The current king and his late father cannot just turn the well known ancient history upside down now.

my argument is largely in relation to the Lagos issue there are numerous towns in Lagos like the idumota eti-osa local govt and other areas who bear bini names, just trying to discredit that is what I find wrong.

Biodun556:
It will happen, in Edo and even Ilorin sooner or later. Reason is that according to law as some people claim. Each local governments must have their traditional council.So it is illegal for a king to be presiding over 2, 3, 5, 7 local governments.

And some governors will see it as a challenge to their authority because all the kings are under the governor of a state.

it can never happen in benin not in recent times, obaseki can't try it. Just watch

LegendHero:
So if Lagos does not belong to Yoruba, who does it belong to?

Kanuri people or aliens?

I think the weed the greedy Oba/Ogiso of Benin smoked is now taking a toll on you guys.

there was no such thing as the Yoruba kingdom in ancient times, now tell me which kingdom in specific owned Lagos and administered it in ancient times, the problem with you guys you all attach yourselves to it just because you are Yoruba even those from Kwara, ekiti, whose ancestors have no link to Lagos, even some towns still bear bini names in Lagos today, you can claim the aworis were there before they had their territory, so did the binis.

Mosba:
Just assuming you are a biologist studying Yorubas and Benis as species, The only conclusion you will reach is that the dominant specie(Yoruba) spread to and gave birth to Benin and not the other way around.
However, for the sake of our other brothers from the east let's call Lagos A NO MAN'S LAND

there was no such thing as Yoruba kingdom in ancient time, and the bini kingdom was larger than any Yoruba kingdom, there are accounts that a bini prince founded ife, Ile ife might have being influenced by the ancient bini kingdom, why you guys find it hard to accept this is because you look at the Yoruba as a larger ethnic group that the binis which is true, which makes it difficult to believe you might have been largely influenced but in ancient times there was no such thing as a Yoruba kingdom, if western history wasn't properly documented it would have been very difficult to believe Britain colonised america, or Britain was once colonised by Norway.

tollyboy5:
Lets not capitalized on ignorance. The time the beni came to Eko there was nothing like yorubas.
So there was nothing like the dominating part called yoruba.
IJebu dominated their territory so do benin and others. If the benin decide to colonize the aworis in lagos it was never the business of the closest kingdom ijebu.

this is one thing they always fail to understand they think that Yoruba was a kingdom or a united brotherhood the ancient bini kingdom was larger and more powerful than any Yoruba kingdom.

GUNITGuy:
Has Oba Akiolu ever gone to Edo state for Anything pertaining to Lagos or Bini...
Oba Oyekan never did
Oba Adele as well
That royal stool is rotation......
Did you see him paying respect to Oba of Bini Or Visiting him or any Lagos king ...But the Governor has to welcome him because he's a First class king........
But if Ooni comes to Lagos All the Obas in Lagos would welcome him including Oba Akiolu and pay him to respect... Same Ondo, Ekiti,Oyo Ogun....Even Kogi and Kwara except Ilorin......
The Alaafin and Ooni might be having issues but yet they respect each other

I don't think you understand my argument.

oluwaseyi0:
I think you need to be flog mercilessly, what do you think?

l😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Segzy19:
Thank God nobody mentioned the 'developers' and Igbos in the history of Lagos... Otherwise, we for no hear word again...

Fact have been paid bare, and records have set straight. Lagos belongs to Awori people who are YORUBAS...

Let me not hear pim from anyone again on this matter...

neither the aworis nor the binis can lay claim to the entire Lagos, the aworis had their territory in Lagos the binis also had their territory, Lagos is a state just like osun, just like you have the Ooni of ife who governs the ife territory of osun state, there are also other traditional rulers in the same osun, you can't come today and claim the ancestors of the Ooni founded osun state they only founded ife, same can be said about Lagos and how you guys always try to make it look like the aworis controlled the entire Lagos, the binis also had their territory, which means the oba isn't wrong.

Lol

Samantha124:
Well, since you've already concluded that I'm an illiterate, then I think it's best I keep my illiterate opinion to myself.

Have a good day...

you are very calm and tolerant sha

abdeefggh:
🤡

he is somehow right, is it not from our lean budget that this same govt is spending billions on cars and renovation, from these same lean budget massive looting will still occur by politicians, to buy properties in London. Now who is the 🤡🤡🤡 now. The bible says a man who isn't faithful in little can't be faithful in much.

seunmsg:
We respect elders that respect themselves.

and insult and disrespect others who go against your point of view, and wake up your parents with scissors kick when they try to correct you, 💯 omoluabi

YorubaDemonswag:
You're missing it entirely,the first known king in Benin is Eweka, before Eweka there's nothing like Oba in Edo, and Obatala has been in existence before Eweka, and it mean nothing but what I told you earlier, secondly no Hausa or fulani will tell you Sultan mean king or emir mean kings because it simply mean leader in islamic word, I know fulani will have word for Oba in there lexicon just like Yoruba have Oba, Edo have Ogiso,. Lastly how do Edo call everlasting king,king of thief and king of kings, tell me that and let's see if Edo truly own the oba

I get your point.

YorubaDemonswag:
Have you even heard of Obatala,obamofin? Oba is general name for king and I've cited different example here to show you that we have no other name for kings in Yoruba except Oba and Oba mean nothing else except Oba in Yoruba land. If you say Oba agabaye in Yoruba you simply mean king of earth,Oba were mean king of mad, can any edo man use Oba in any sentence to mean King,Oba means red or light in Edo lexicon while it means kings in Yoruba lexicon, so who's liar here between me and Ogiso of Benin?

your explanation even favours my argument that Oba is of Edo origin, Oba is simply a Noun exclusively given
and used to describe the ruler of bini kingdom, we have names like Obasogie, obakplolor, and for the fact that it means king in Yoruba language means that it must have been borrowed by the Yorubas from the binis, look at it this way when you hear of the word sultan, in sokoto and some Arab Emirate sultan is the title of the leader of the Emirate, it is a Noun that describe an office or title, but in recent times you see people use the sultan in less formal address to mean king for example the name of late sound sultan, for sound sultan I guess he just wanted to say sound king but in Arabic the word sultan I doubt if it means king, it is just like the pharaohs of ancient Egypt, in ancient Egypt the word pharoah doesn't mean king, a pharoah is king societies may haveborrowed that pharoah title to mean king in their language, but it doesn't mean king in ancient Egyptian language, oba as you claim means king and is of Yoruba origin don't you find it strange that the only Yoruba monarch who bear that Oba as official title are those from Lagos whose origin is being debated to be from bini, the Aalafin of and the Ooni of ife are the progenitors of the Yorubas yet non of them bears Oba.

seunmsg:
Tell the Oba to shut up and stop talking nonsense. This is just a small response to his clownish behavior. Next time, we won’t be this nice.

a true omoluabi behavior, without respect for elders, I guess you wake your parents up with scissors kick too.

YorubaDemonswag:
Point of correction sir, he's Ogiso of Benin not Oba of Benin,he can't be using our title and still be saying trash about us.

Oba cannot be said to be of Yoruba origin aside the oba of Lagos tell me any traditional monarch in the south west who bear the title of Oba your most revered ruler bears Ooni and Aalafin so how then is the Oba title Yoruba in origin.

richie240:
Words are powerful bro.
If he had used "binis settled in (a part of) lagos", it would've bn understood, but "binis found lagos" carries a lot of weight.

Na so 'some ppl' enter night bus from wherever they originated from, to settle in Lagos, and 2 generations after, they started dragging lagos with Yorubas.

E beta as we set the record straight like that to avoid unnecessary misconception in future; or else in 100 years time, his great-grandchildren will quote what their great-grandfather said in 2023 as their gospel truth.

the oba might be right in those days there was nothing like Lagos, others might have inhabited a part of what is now known as Lagos, same reason why you have different kingdoms in various states right now, like you have the Ooni of ife in modern day osun, in that same osun state I believe there are other kingdoms too, and as such the Ooni can't lay claim to the entire osun state, even in Edo state you have others kings from esan land the oba of Benin can't lay claim to the entire Edo state, so also the Yorubas can't lay claim to the entire Lagos, the name Eko is of Benin origin, even towns like eti -osa, idumota are all of Benin origin, saying the aworis were here before the Benins' came does not mean they own the entire lagos of today. everyone knows the Lagos island is the most economical viable part of Lagos and that was the very same part the binis administered, there is hardly a state in Nigeria where you have just one traditional ruler who ruled over the states the Yoruba influence was only a part of it.

plaindealer:
The workforce is a productive force, they work to produce goods and services and at the end of the day, the government collects its share of their productivity and earnings.

So, who is benefiting from this productivity arrangement?

The SW or your village?

I go dash you a bowl of akpu when you figure it out.

you knowledge on things is shallow, the govt only collects like 10 percent who controls the rest 90 percent owns the system, if google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon, apple, were owned by Chinese do you think the us govt would be glad because the collect just tax from them?

aljharem:
Your views, yorubas don't hate Igbos.

Thank God he is president. Go and hang yourself. I am of bini origin and I repeat people like you are foolish

obviously you are so foolish that you can barely recognize your own foolishness, a fool who claim you lost respect for an entire tribe because we refused to vote in tinubu, like how more stupid can one be, he is the president against our vote but yet it is your folks who are looting plantain 😂😂😂

aljharem:
That is your problem. Some of your people came online dey misyarn for yoruba people. These are the same people that have respected your independence and customs. Una destroy bond and now Yorubas have had it. To hell with any Bini pesin. Go an join Ekpa people who don't have sense.

destroy bond? because we refuse to join you in your stupid hate filled Ronu nonsense and your hate against the Igbos, because we chose not to vote for a man without morals and decency. To hell with you and your respect for our customs.