₦airaland Forum

naijaking1:
It's hard to ignore your uninformed and persistently false position on the Biafran situation.
First, Biafra was not an Igbo affair, because even the title name was suggested by an Ijaw assembly man. While the Igbos were the majority in the then eastern Nigeria, the rank and file of the executive were filled by people from Ogoja, to Calabar, to Uyo, to PH, to Onitsha, to Nsukka. When the easterners were massacred in the north, every tribe, county, or group in eastern Nigeria suffered losses, but since the Igbos were statistically more in number, it was not surprising that they were mostly affected. So, every group had a need to support Biafra.

These groups you outlined as being opposed to Biafra never had any problem living, schooling, and making a living as eastern Nigerians despite shallow political differences. You seem to misunderstand the effect of the war on easterners, because just like the western and northern Nigerians, the easterners too had their own minority issues and agitations.

The discovery of oil, the relentless pursuit for domination by Hausa/Fulanis, and Yorubas' myopic and self-serving approach to everything exaggerated the minority issues in eastern Nigeria. Granted that Zik and other politicians played a key role in carving the midwest out of the western region( against the protest of western politicians who thought supporting eastern minorities was pay-back time), there was not any difference between the minority agitation of the Ogonis in PH and those of the Aworis in Lagos.

When these so-called minorities depended on the revenues from coal, palm oil, agriculture, and yes taxation from the majority Igbos, there was no complaints or agitations for separation, but all that changed when oil was discovered in commercial quantity in what was seen as their lands
Despite your earlier and false write-up about the iniquities of Igbos against their fellow easterners, the only compaints I have ever heard from some of these so-called minorities includes: Ojukwu's disrespect to some of their leaders, because he refused to see them in Enugu at some point in the early 1966s. Until the Justice Mammam commission came to town, most of the oil producing areas were unquestionably in Igbolands.

Like I said above the mandate for Biafra was given by the eastern house of assembly as a measure to save themselves from extermination, please review your history well. Effiong, MT Mbu, Chief Jumbo, and other minority high ranking officials of the era were not "financially induced" as you falsely claimed in your previous article, they were serving their people. If you thought they were bought, then go ask as them, because some of them are still alive

ur post is filled with lies and shiity logic. The highlighted are some of them.

So your own people are squeaky clean?

does it has to be my people-vs-your people kinda discussion b4 bigots like u can contribute?

Guys, you people need to get a life. Every kid now has unsolicited opinion,

i don't see how my opinion is an unsolicited one given the nature of Nairaland and the title of the thread.

In a nutshell, Mr. Sam_Ikenna grow up. U sound so clueless, confused and off point.

Unfortunately the igbo pple are still blaming another set of pple for their mistakes, even the way they av played their politics to date shows to everyone they will likely make the same mistake they made in '66 if it happens allover again.  The forces and factors of pre-1966 politics are the still there today 100%, from all regions. The ignorance, the love, the hate, the greed, the hurt and every single feeling that shaped the decisions that lead to the war.

Most of the spillage are the handiwork of the local communities, they know the oil companies always pay good them well whenever they succed in causing these oil spillage. The oil companies cant go on like that forever.

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=864525.msg10136664#msg10136664 date=1328555900]Either this gets moved to the Culture section or I put up thread on Igbo history, preferebly Afikpo, or in fact, where ever in Igbo land. [/quote]the thread is about a war which happens to be a yoruba one. If u av a problem with the yorubas u can go create a thread for that. I don't see how anybody shld have a problem with a thread on a war/conflict in politics section.

I hope our police dont go there and finish off the remaining civilians. . . anything goes in Nigeria

That's what u get when u treat a parasite as a cheated host. If i go further now some folks will tell u they were fighting 4 their right.

NL shld stop bring silly threads like this to the front page, this ranking is based on web traffic associated with the school. That does not prove anything.

Mend has shown everybody the way.
Make the Nigerian millitary look defenceless, while u get international attention, then proceed to negotiate.
The only flawed part here is the negotiation, they probably didn't plan to negotiate this early, the capture of abul qaqa changed everything.

When mend/ND pple were being rewarded for parasitism nobody said anything. They even went as far as killing their kidnap victims but no one said nada. BH are simply tapping into the it for more options now that they av been busted.

I insist this Ezeife guy is a NLder, from the way he sounds u can tell he is one of us just trying to play games while elevating the igbos. I find it hard to believe that anybody as old as our pple here portray him to be will be saying what he is saying.

[quote author=9ja_I_hail link=topic=863655.msg10128916#msg10128916 date=1328468094]Have your father ever had opportunity to be interviewed by any press?[/quote]

Beaf:
I'll ask a simple question:
What is the alternative to voting PDP? A fairytale? Fantasy?

Everywhere you look Nigeria, there are mushroom parties built on ethnicity and mushroom thinking, all hurdled in ugly bigotted enclaves. It is fair to say that there is only one mature party in Nigeria today, that is the PDP. The rest are just ethnic champs, that are even more corrupt than the PDP.

Pdp is our major Party today because of poverty and greed. They started off from the old corrupt cabal which cut accross all ethnic groups and av so far exploited poverty amongs the people to spread their tentacles. If PDP was truly a mature party
that is beyond 'ethnicity and mushroom thinking', why do the have an arrangement for power sharing between the southerners and Northerners in the party?

vladimiros:
what you said is so funny, but is 100% truth

unfortunately i don't see anything true in that comment. To show how clueless Pdp is, all their die-hard fans here av not stated one positive aspect of Pdp. All they av done so far is criticize the alternatives to pdp.
As for me the greatest flaw of PDP that makes them inferior to the like ACN is their lack of ideology or direction. PDP is just a the shortest cut for those who want in.
Its like a cult. Though parties hardly affects qualities of leaders they produce PDP is a classic case of a party that can negate good qualities of any leader it produce. The no. 1 most times are meant to be figure heads.

Oga Beaf, if i may ask what will the signifiance of the No.1 Ijaw man be?
Okonjo iweala is not even ijaw, besides i dön't see how this issue concerns Uncle Jonathan if that's what u are driving at.

Can we call this the Igbo versiön of the crisis btw mc oluomo and his rivals?
Aj least we know nobody has monopoly of violence.

It think i agree with u, especially that eye-opening war, they knew they had to centralise certain thing in order to fulfil their greed, crude oil was one of it if not the main thing. (lol @ mr crude oil).
How man go come do am now oga beaf. We no fit dey complain forever.

Crude Oil:
Product of a disorganized education system.

bros i no mean am like that oh, that's just my way of saying we are disorganised becos of petroleum awuf (crude oil).

Beaf:
Nigeria is disorganised, because our national structure is a fraud that was designed for theft and exploitation, rather than growth and production.
Rather than an equitable society bolstered by strong institutions, we have inequality, death, destruction, wickedness and corruption propped up by chaos.

and our national structure will be a fraud designed by who exactly? Ourselves or our colonial master?

Nigeria is disorganised largely because of u, crude oil.

The bitter truth is our survival as a nation is not really based on hardwork but corruption. Go to farmers in the rural area or chinese factories and ask them how often do they go holiday. U will find out they dont just go on hols because their survival and progress economically is based on hardwork.
We shldnt be having as much holidays.

^^^Don't mind that MAGA he thinks he is smart.

Beaf:
Responding to a question, another source added: “The voice analysis of the suspect in our custody has very much semblance of the spokesman of Boko Haram. And during interrogation, the man admitted that he is Abu Qaqa.

“The voice of ‘emergency Abu Qaqa’, who spoke on the phone with newsmen on Thursday in Maiduguri was different from the ‘real spokesman’ of Boko Haram in our custody.

“At the end of our investigation, we will make our findings known to the public and any suspect arrested will face trial accordingly. We won’t unveil the Abu Qaqa in SSS custody yet.”

Meanwhile, the SSS has started hunting for more leaders of the dreaded sect.

The source said: “The interrogation of Abu Qaqa continued yesterday, we will keep the nation posted accordingly.

how was the voice analysed? Was it a human being just listening and observing or did they use advance analysis methods?
I hope the SSS av the right person in their net.

There is nothing special about this news, it has already been denied by Tambuwal.
Lets wait and see if they eventually show face.

I av seen women go on half-Naked protest in Ota, Ogun state over explotation of their environment and resources unjustly. They never waited for the consumers of such product from Warri, Yenagoa or Enugu to join them. It is only a "progressive and vibrant" Delta and ND that will wait for occupiers to give them their own qouta of free services to them.
If they can put pressure on the oil companies to employ their indigeneous labour under the guise of Na-our-resources-and-so we-must-occupy-am, i see no reason why they shouldnt do the oil spillage protest on their own. If they kill and kidnap bravely in the jungle then they shld be able to march in peace.

This isnt the U.S. where their citizen embark on protest by boycotting products from producers and manufacturers who are linked to slave labour in asia.
If u can chop the free oil money under the excuse of 'deve' then be ready to face the responsibilities. . . . . .buncha parasites.

Beaf:
Forget about formulaic answers. The OP is asking why there is no #Occupy movement against matters that destroy human lives in the areas where oil is produced. He is asking why Nigerians act like this:

Same way Saro Wiwa was murdered for oil.
Answers are needed. Where are the hypocritic #Occupiers?

[size=15pt]Alj harem just murdered the topic. The SE are the lowest contributor.
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Mr. Igbos-are-importers, all ur goods are fake, they also shortchange Nigerians in value and forex because 90%+ of labour involved in those goods are foreiqners and nigerians pay multiple times to get those goods at all dve to failure. Overall the ibos r par*****s

buzor:
Igbos contributed in d excess of 500billion to nigerian govt through importation alone.
go ask d nig. customs if doubt of d figures.
guess what our hausa brothers contributed in 2011; boko haram and suicide bombers

This thread has gone to three pages now with no reference. The moment we start using references to back up our argument then it becomes crystal clear who the real parasites are and what they bring to the table called Nigeria.
Who r those who cry for employement in oil company based on man-must-chop and where-am-from emotional feeling and excuses?
Who are those who bring in fake goods?
Who r those that don't manufacture nada, but split complete goods into components in china and assemble them in Nigeria with minimal labour, thereby shortchanging us in forex?
As we begin to answer these questions with references then it becomes too clear who the real parasites are. All they need do is spread out evenly to perpetrate their trade scam by selling fake goods that shortchanges Their customer in terms of value and Nigeria in forex. That's why u see them all over africa, they call it industrous but some of us know better, its called "economic or diplomatic parasitism".

alj harem:
@OP Let me educate you


1. Nigerian's major export are cotton, sugar cane, cowpeas and all of which are ONLY grown in the core north

2. Kaduna state alone generate more revenue than states like ebonyi because of the Large industrial textile companies

3. The only working refienery In Nigeria upto good capacity is in Kaduna becasue of the maintaince culture and non-wasting culture

4. Gold exportation and uranium is only found in Sokoto and no other State apart for 1 in the south



1. Adamawa state alone produces 70 % of all the meat eaten in Nigeria. Even to fast foods

2. Since Nigerians don't [size=13pt]eat[/size] Oil , bitumen, etc Majority of the food eaten in Nigeria are from the core north like kebbi, adamawar, taraba and co

3. Most of ur Nigeria made bread, where do you think the wheat for the flour comes from ? Yes North

4. Lead is been explored and exported in Nigeria today only from bauchi, everyone knows the health implication of lead if rain falls. ( South south people you have done well for Nigeria, I salute you people really and encourage )

5. The military that provides security for Nigeria, where do you think they came from ?

6. Dangote today is the only and one of the largest africa indigenous company today that provides, cement, flour, sugar etc and all other processed goods

I can keep going on  and on and on

Please don't be deceived

the same millitary u guys used mago mago to dominate or which one. That same mago-mago dominated millitary has been infiltrated today to give rise to the greatest form of insecurity.
Keep decieving ur self oh, alj_harem.

A strong and solid point would have been agriculture and tin.

@homerac7 God bless u for admitting the truth. Virtually every tribe in Africa had some these practise among themselves.

Onlytruth:
At this time, I have to say that anyone from the Eastern region who ridicules the idea of a holiday for Ojukwu is truly a goat. You can never deny the man his place in history, the minimum of which is that he was a governor of the WHOLE Eastern region, and he acquitted himself very creditably in our time of crisis, when Easterners irrespective of tribe were being hunted down and killed in the North and West of Nigeria. One calabar guy escaped from Kaduna and narrated his story. It was not different from what other Easterners experienced.  
The civil war itself was fought by ALL Easterners on BOTH sides. Some Igbo fought for Nigeria, just like some non-Igbos of Eastern region. It is self deceit to distant from Ojukwu and what he stood for as Governor of Eastern region which produced the Aburi document which would have served EVERY tribe in the East, and even Nigeria for that matter. Even Yorubas are now calling for implementation of Aburi - a solid 45 years after they rejected it.

I would advise every minority Easterner to never forget, that we Ndigbo can stay in Nigeria and make hay. In fact if we do, it would LIKELY serve us more than them. It is already serving us more even today. You can quote me on that. The problem with the Igbo man (which I try to counsel them against in private conversations) is that we are too consciencious when dealing with other Nigerians. Most of the time, we lament the injustices against oil producing communities of the "SS" (non-Igbo areas, and some areas which deny being Igbo) as passionately as we would lament whatever we feel that is wrong with the way Nigeria treats us. It does not mean that we cannot join the thieves from elsewhere, ravage the place and leave it to die a slow death. We can do that. In fact if some of you people continue this mindset, Igbo will DEFINITELY change with time to resemble those some of you respect more . We shall then see how things would look.

This Ojukwu's burial will help open our eyes more concerning how some of you view us, and will likely shape our vision for ourselves in Nigeria. So, BE VERY CAREFUL.
If you don't want to obverse any holiday, fine, no problem. Go about your business, as I'm sure that some Igbo will go about their business. But don't come here talking nonsense.
There can only be ONE burial for Ojukwu, but the future of Nigeria is still very undefined. Don't eat today and die tomorrow.

My Igbo brothers, please ignore Yoruba devils on this thread.

Here I stand!  

igbo pple across the ss/se region went about their normal business today, i think that says it all concerning Biafra, 70% of what we still hear about biafra is all electronic media propaganda from less than 2% of e-restless igbo youths. U need to see the way ur own people were going abt their business b4 u start any lame attack on innocent NLders.
In my humble estimate, 90% + of igbo did not care about that O's burial today.

Can anybody relate this with parasitism, resource control, fed allocation, or even ND millitancy struggle and its justification.

Beaf and co. where art thou?

Dede1:
Negro_nuts, you are a mooncalf, olodo.

I had taken a culture that mandated the stay of caste system over the culture that demands heart of dead Oba be cannibalized and human beings slaughtered before corps of the Oba had to be lowered to the ground.

People say instead of dead it is good to get lost.

the bolded also exist in ibo, in fact it is more common in iboland than any other place.


@topic, how many attempted attack has foiled in the past?

freecocoa:
I know that but why can't they leave it at the politics section,I'm sure it will get the very much needed traffic there,its just that it keeps making both tribes look like sworn enemies in the eyes of the world and that's not good. E just come be like say Seun dey take sides joor.

why u dey try manipulate innocent seun now? Leave oga OP alone. If u cant relate with thread u shld leave it alone like .most pple have done.