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masterminds: Haha, bros u got it all wrong, lemme tell u a story that happened @ nda, after one POP like that, a S.lieutenant b4 leaving for home, saw his RSM n playfully mocked him wiv seniority n stuff saying can u see me from dere! Ur RSM, d man dat trained u for how long, omo! D rsm took it up oh, wiv mgt, d officer was discharged dis honorably, within 2 weeks of being an officer. After 4yrs in NDA, wat do u say about that.?

by mgt what ðø you mean oga,cause from what i know it takes steps and a long process before a commissioned officer can be disengaged fron service.also note that he is not a cadet anymore so even the nda commandant ðø not have to power to dismiss him anymore,and issues like this the RSM must have tangible proof and eyewitness beforwe he can prove his case beyond reasonable doubt.although i don T support such attitudes bt also i will wnt you to know that there are steps to be taken and it is the military council that has the power to dismiss an officer

Was the number finally selected for RC?

bishop4APC: Noise makers full here....january 2014 is the answer to all your problems so stop wasting MBs...shior kelebe!

no one is talking about training now,atleast we will go for interview before training.abi na january we go go for interview too?

Chukzy001: Army DSSC 'DO NOT' and I repeat 'DO NOT' train @ NDA old site... Old site's meant for Navy DSSC, Army SSC and attimes NAF DSSC.

don't confirm wot you dnt knw,Dssc trained in NDA 2010

tenderlaw: Labaran Maku(Information) is supervising the ministry of defence until Mr President can appoint a substantive minister. Hope that helps.

hope the change will not delay the list further

House please,who is now the new minister for defence?

azido: i almost forgot about the exam speculations.kai dat means say NA no even get plans to set exam b4.well e good sha

no mind exam speculators,we dey tell them say no exam dem they argue

azido: people can be very funny ooooo.do u know how long i have been following the Nigerian Army facebook page and this fellows @ malachy27 and femredhead are still doubting me.To clear your doubt,let me teach you sometin . Go to the main website of the NA i.e http://www.army.mil.ng/ from there click the facebook icon and launch yourself into https://www.facebook.com/NigerianArmy?hc_location=stream

the fb page on the site is diff from the one you gave us the link,check again

joker5180: if they say dssc is 6months on their web then we hv every reason to believe them

it was stated on the website that dssc is 6mnths? Abeg give me the link to the website

kwajay1: brother let me tell you. Several times regular and ssc/dssc have done Pop together in the past (just ask any regular officer to confirm) I don't mean they will join ssc and dssc army when I stated ssc/dssc. All I meant was navy dssc and army ssc. Pls you can choose what to believe. I'm not telling u when the list will be out but all I knw is that your trg commence january -september coz they want only one pop in nda ie september both regular amd colitos

Ye$$ i understand you perfecty w£ll cause dssc and ssc trained together 2010 in nda and the training lasted 9mnths.actually i dnt knw Where ppl got this idea that dssc is always 6mnths while ssc is 9mnths,what ppl dnt understand is that any short service training conducted in nda lasted for 9mnths nothing more nothing less,the only reason dssc is 6mnths is because they are always trained outside nda

okesammie: I really still need someone to share his or her experience or knowledge of a person that was disqualified as a result of not being registered. Maybe i will just have to work on my registration and re-apply next year....

doubting thomas,am talking from experience as someone that has been to the interview and also as a professional too.even the site said U most be registered if you did a professional course registrable unless U dnt understand what U read

okesammie: Please i have an important question, i am yet to complete my COREN certification and a part of the application requirement says that you have to be duly registered with your professional body. I am a graduate of mechanical engineering. Anyone with info on this should please drop a contribution.

you just need to be registered,not compulsory you qualifed

mandela0119: Hello house i ve been following dis thread wth keen interest,i learnt alot from u guys.i m a corper doctor attached to a medical reception station( MRS) in one of d army barrakz in d country.I was advised by an officer in d unit to apply for dssc which i did,but later found out after paying for pincode that nysc discharge cert is very important,i proceeded wth d registration,uploaded all d relevant credentials excpt nysc cert.This delay in releasing the list seems a blessing,because i ll be doing my pop next month.The truth is that most officers i interviewd abt wen d list would be out are clueless,dia links helpless.Though i work in the baraks,i m not bothring myself much about getting a godfather for d exersice,i m looking up to God in heaven for help.i knw many guys here who came in on merit.thanks for keeping the thread alive.cheers

medical reserve station(MRS) and not medical reception station,and mind you all the three arms of services needs medical personnel that is why you will always see medical corp vacancy in there advert every year,so it is easier to enter any of the services as a medical personnel without knowing anyone

General emperor: Dey av come out wt a new Rumour strategy,I trust naijas guz dey alwz improve deir strategy,na d new 1 is soon,
Soon is d new date 4 d list 2 released,ntn cn stp me frm smiling all times,lol

=D =D håª"håª"håª=D =D!! Abi wetin make i talk now,na soon no ni

List will be out soon

1forall: The guy hasn't complained of the long post itself but of those quoting it unnecessarily to drop a one-line comment. You appear to need your own advise and cultivate the reading habit.

Ye$$ you are right,it was a mistake on my path....apology tendered

mekado83: What's this na.. People should stop quoting long post. Is so pathetic. Nawa oo

cultivate the habit of reading and stop been a jerk,if you are given a comprehension to read during the test will not read it ?i just gave you info about. The job you are signing for so that you can be more aware but there you go talking rubbish...lazy ass

New terms of service for armed forces out From Madu Onuorah, Abuja

DETAILS of the newly-signed Harmonised Terms and Conditions of Service (HTACOS) for personnel of the Nigerian military, which is expected to bring sweeping changes towards the
transformation and modernisation of the Armed Forces, have emerged.

HTACOS, which was approved by the Armed Forces Council, took effect following its signing by
outgoing Chief of Defence Staff, Air Chief Marshal Oluseyi Petinrin on July 10, 2012. It provides every officer of the military - Army, Navy and Air Force - with the specifics of the rules and regulations governing all issues, including recruitment, accommodation, promotion, retirements, resignations, death in active service, gratuities and benefits for depend ants, burial benefits, child education (dead or active service), medical treatment, pension and allowances. It also provides for what every officer should expect whether the personnel joined the military as Regular Combatant Commission (joined as cadet through the Nigerian Defence Academy) or through Direct Regular Commission, Direct Short Service Commission, Short Service Combatant Commission or the Executive/Special Duty/Branch Commission.

The aim is to have common terms and conditions of service in the three services - Army, Navy and Air Force, moving away from the former order where these terms and condition of service
differed among the Services. Highlight of the HTACOS is that when fully implemented, retirement age in the military would be different from other personnel of the Federal Government. For now, the military is bound to retire its officers on their completion of 35 years of service or their attaining the age ceiling for their ranks, whichever comes first. This has resulted in the average retirement age for the nation's military to be around 52 years.

The HTACOS has effectively scrapped the years of service of 35 years of service and fully embraced the age on rank bracket to enable the Armed Forces to continue to tap from the experiences of its officers as is done in the Armed Forces of such nations as India, Britain and United States, well beyond the present retirement rules. This means that as long as officers and men of the Nigerian military pass the necessary promotion board examinations, they would not be retired just because they have served 35 years. But that will now depend on their Run Out Date (ROD).

But effectively, the HTACOS starts with the 36th Course and their equivalents and above. The 36th Course members were the first set to start full degree programmes at the Nigerian Defence Academy (NDA). Before then, Courses 1 to 35 studied and graduated with the National Certificate in Education (NCE) from the NDA. This means that while Course 36 and above will
benefit from all the provisions of the HTACOS, their seniors, Courses 1 to 35, will not have the full benefits. Course 17 is the oldest still in service. Incoming Chief of Defence Staff, Vice Admiral Ola Sa'ad Ibrahim is Course 17, Lt.-Gen. Onyeabo Azubuike Ihejirika is Course 18, the new Service Chiefs - Rear Admiral Dele Joseph Ezeoba (Navy) is Course 22 while incoming Chief of the Air Staff, Air Vice Marshal Alex Sabundu Badeh (Air Force) is Course 21.

Under the old TACOS, the ROD for a Regular Commissioned Lieutenant or its equivalent in the
Navy (Sub-Lieutenant) or Air Force (Flying Officer) was 35 years, Captain/Lieutenant/Flight
Lieutenant - 40, Major/Lieutenant Commander/Squadron Leader - 46, Lieutenant Colonel/Commander/Wing Commander - 49, Colonel/Captain/Group Captain - 52, Brigadier-General/Commodore/Air Commodore - 54, Major General/Rear Admiral/Air Vice Marshal - 56, Lieutenant-General/Vice Admiral/Air Marshal - 58 and General/Admiral/Air Chief Marshal - 60.

But under the new HTACOS, RODs were extended. Now, the ROD for Regular Commissioned Officers under the HTACOS for Lieutenant or its equivalent in the Navy and Air Force is 39 years, Captain or its equivalent- 46, Major or its equivalent - 50, Lieutenant Colonel or its equivalent - 53, Colonel or its equivalent - 54, Brigadier-General or its equivalent - 56, Major-General or its equivalent - 57, Lieutenant-General or its equivalent - 59 and General or its equivalent remains 60.

Section 02.10 (b) of the HTACOS states: "Except as provided for in sub-sections (c) and (d), an officer holding a substantive rank will be retired on reaching the age indicated for that rank." In addition to having the retirement age to be beyond 35 years in service, Brigadier-Generals and their equivalents will on implementation of the HTACOS be entitled to have in retirement the services of an orderly, driver and a steward, unless such officer specifically opts out of such arrangement. The number of such personal staff is expectedly higher for Major Generals and their equivalents.

Initially, some personnel of the Nigerian military expressed misgivings about the HTACOS. Some were disappointed that it would only be fully implemented from Course 36 and above,
meaning that Courses 17 to 35 would only benefit from partial implementation. This, they believed does not serve the "good" interest of the Armed Forces and the nation, alleging that some of the best hands in the military would still retire prematurely under the approved HTACOS.

But Director, Defence Information, Col. Mohammed Yerima, dismissed such fears saying that "the newly signed Harmonised Terms and Conditions of Service (HTACOS 2012) is a well thought-out and carefully drafted roadmap for excellent career pursuit in the Armed Forces. The major thrust of the new HTACOS is the enablement of full and rewarding career for officers in their chosen profession; it is intended for the good of the officers and for the greater interest of the Armed Forces and the nation. Specifically, all officers of the Armed Forces now have the following additional years longer in the service compared to what is contained in HTACOS proposal of 2009: Lieutenant to Captain and their equivalent, four years; Major to Lieutenant Colonel and their equivalent, three years; Colonel and its equivalent, two years; Brigadier-General to Lieutenant General and their equivalent, one
year. HTACOS 2012 also ensured that the frequent retirement in the Armed Forces is no longer tenable as was in the past, among other altruistic intentions. More instructive is the fact that the document was carefully drafted, duly subjected to due processes, scrutinized and approved by the Armed Forces Council before the Chief of Defence Staff was statutorily authorised to sign and implement it as approved."

The quest for a new HTACOS has been on in the military since the advent of the return to civil rule in May 1999. In December 2008, former Chief of Defence Staff, Air Chief Marshal Paul Dike set up a panel to review the HTACOS, explaining that the review is aimed at bringing the terms and conditions of service in the three services in line with the changes envisaged in the transformation and modernisation agenda for the Nigerian military.

Incidentally, the First Defence Retreat held in Jaji, Kaduna State last year had also recommended that "DHQ should review the HTACOS particularly as it concerns the length of service of personnel." The expectation of the Retreat is that the HTACOS panel would result in the retirement for the military to be different from other personnel of the Federal Government. For now, the military is bound to retire its officers on their completion of 35 years of service or their attaining the age ceiling for their ranks, whichever comes first. This has resulted in the average retirement age for the nation' military being around 52 years.

emmanuel4fire: I think it's high time we flush this thread of all Igbobians and Marijuanians.

you are absolutely right emma,some have not been following this thread and they don not even bother to find out what is going but after taking there thing they will just jump into the discussion.imagine that guy asking you if your name is on NDA list...lWKMD

azido: listen up JOKER AND SIINA u guys didnt like wat i said bcoz u applied for DSSC/SSC well i understand u,my dad retired as an officer in 2009 and my junior ones 2 of them 1 in NDA(3 termer) and the other Airforce military skool.I speak based on wat av seen.if u are in d med corps,engineering e.t.c.cool u can even get to the rank of maj gen,but MP,NP,AP,accounting,admin e.t.c forget it,if u attain lt.col tank your God.The 2 Bosses i served with all retired as Sqd ldrs(maj) just 3years ago.Friends i am also a red cap chief in this officers race.So"Where is salamatu"

you may be right bt NA lately is political so anything can happen,even my uncle retired as a major in finance corp bt that wuz cuz of the prob he has with his oga,so been ssc or Rc does not guarantee you will serve longer in the army

joker5180: so they will be sending ssc officers to run medical corps, chaplain, islamic affairs, military police, and other support services jst because ssc officers r many? pls reason well

lol......dnt mind the guy,i av lost the respect i have for him.i actually though he is w£ll informed but i dnt know he is not,so dssc officers will now be retired forceful before there time?he is not thinking like an intending officer(sorry to say)

Colito(company),BN(battalion)for RC we have,abyssinna,dalet,burma,mogadishu and short service-ashanti

azido: majority of the clowns will be begging to report sick in the hospital.NDA has changed no more PAPER CADET.even on your crouches the job marshals and labor force will still grind your pots whether you like it or not.sleep of tongue,you must like it.so many pots(skulls)will be useless-ed.hahahahahahahaha

dem go nack enough lumbago,finger their popman wella

azido: i broke the news for NDA list.abeg make we leave that news for now and continue talking abt Dssc.lucky for those confused clowns.their first 3 months in prep wing will be full of jobs as the prep wingers(3 termers) will show them no peace.congrats sha.but the earlier u buy ur peace,the better for u.IS THAT CLEAR!!!

lol...they will so confuse their lives

New clowns(RC) going to nda, congrats to you all,but don't forget you will suffer a lot of malice during your preparatory(prep) classes

ladepete: Bros u have teyed in the application thing bah? This year will be the last by God's grace. But easy na..no be fight!

lol...i no fight you too bruv,and thanks for the prayer i say AMEN to that

ladepete: Hehehehe. So una don check? Sebi una want make the thread lively. I give una assignment ni. E-portal go don receive plenty visitors this morning. Some people go come here dey give una date...me give una portal.I still try na..@ least una see something to click. Make una nor vex biko. I hail the house.

i didn't check anything guy,i knew wot U were saying

idris4r83: @siina, pls what's d nature of the test, is it current affairs, military affairs or just normal gmat tinz?

maths,english and current affairs(note that you will be asked to write an essay too).don't know if things have changed though.

ladepete: Morning all. You guys that have been hurling insults and abuses to everyone that said there will be a test; have you guys tried logging on to the portal and clicking application status?

so what about it guy?that has always been there since army started online recruitment and who's says there won't be test too?what we are saying is that test are conducted during the interview and that it will be same this year too

cricifixo: Oscar maybe u'll do d frog jumping when nothing happens this year

haykay2005:

exam speculation don stop na january own dey reign now...nawa o

joker5180: tnx, it seems they give DSSC candidates some consideration concerning PHYSICAL exercise

Ye$$ they consider dssc because of the age and we also have women in our mist infact they are given 20mins instead of the 18mins(note:the 20mins is for ladies alone bt the two interview i have witnessed,documentation and medical has it rest is just formality bt dnt knw hw this year own go be sha)

mko abiola: If I tell u d NA is lik seccret cult,am 90% right.none of d officers will diclose the exact salary,I ask my close my pal who is a lieut,he said less dan 200K,he refuse to tell me d actual figure.d military mentality don enter hs head.lol
What a brilliant&intelligent discusson.
It all depends on a personal/individual point of view as regards NA.
U either join NA as result of passion,influence,power and money.
But d big question ,I ask a frend ,Can u leave a job where u earn N500,000/monthly,to join NA as a lieu? and he said YES.
As for me I said NO,it depnds on individual perception.
As for d list,none of d officer knw d actual date d list will b released,even those @HQ.
Victory is frm God alone.

Ye$$ U right but i saw my brothers alert when he wuz first paid after training while at home on pass,although he is still a leu bt he made my realise the pay increases annually