FisifunKododada:
The OP did not do anything wrong. OP carry on joor.

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Thank you Bross tell them. we're are u from

Same reason why men leave City girls to go marry in the village.

but sometimes it's not just by language that determines your tribe also world view and culture. Eg English folks migrated from Britain to North America in the US they still speak English though another dialect but it's still mutually intelligible but they culture and world view has changed so much because of contact with others and now they have they own ethnicity you won't even hear them calling themselves English again like wise Ikwere and Itshekiri to Igbo and Yoruba.

OlaoChi:


All Yorubas are not as ignorant as that so do not generalize

I laughed when I read that too but the guy is known to post nonsense on this forum

We should be working towards peace and brotherhood not senseless war if words

Thank you my brother

[quote author=selemempe post=69343168] wat u just said is like saying that because we have ngwa igbo..wawa igbo...abakaliki igbo...anioma igbo...ikwere igbo etc that igbo is not one tribe.

All languages are creols. That is why 'what' means kini in Yoruba and gini in igbo[/.]

They do have different languages like the Ainu has its own language different from Japanese even the rok people too. Yes all languages are creoles proves my point more.

selemempe:
japan have one tribe and similar culture...england and many european countries too...even arabs

As for u.s..they may have different tribes but they have one western culture defined by christianity and freedom

Nigeria is another matter altogether...the fulani ppl are arabic while the igbo ppl are more pro western. The north has sharia while the south is free..
We just dont mix at all. Only our skin color makes us one

Japanese are one tribe ke You have the Ainu the Ryukyukan people the Nyvik the Yamato people the Maori the Rock people although the Maori is the most influential England used to have different cultures and languages before one language English which is actually a creole of different languages displaced the rest and America doesn't have one religion although Christianity is prominent the people of the southern United States don't have same culture with the north although their are lots of similarities.

Sometimes I wonder if people actually think they are countries with only one Culture and or maybe they think Nigeria is the only country with different ethnic group heck even Japan China or India and even the almighty US don't have only one culture.

Educative thread but still not sure bout the Influencial part.

I dunno about other areas but I think in the south we call it Shaka-Shaka in pidgin.

Iam the wrongest person you should be threatening with Tribal bashing anyway bash away the only I'd do is delete the thread. See pipo de Kari tribe wan Yan me as if I bi one kain old man. Abegi am just 19 o don't really have much emotional connections with my tribe Iam only Emotional for The Niger delta and Naija as a whole I even created a thread once about loving the Yoruba people (Because my girlfriend was Yoruba and she made me love her culture) and heck I can't even speak Ijaw so bash away o. Una never Jam sef I just de Laff.

Fatherofdragons:


my friend will u stop that nonsense, u think I don't know how ppl like u behave in this forum? this bloody place is already tribal enough but u had to create such a topic.

and the worst part is that u are neither igbo nor yor.oba.

how about I create a topic about ijaw history in the most mischievous way, let me see if u would be smiling by then.

See Iam new to nairaland if u didn't notice I didn't mean to I was only asking a question which I thought nairaland would be the best place to answer me. though I expected some bad replies but not really like this. if u say u want to create a topic of Ijaw history that would hurt me which it won't because Ijaw isn't my name Iam pretty much detribalized I've got a dad who is half Ijaw half Igbo whos great granddad was a Saro also showing Yoruba Ancestry. goan and do your mind I no go send when Iam just Ijaw because my dad chose there. e no do mi anything.

BabaRamota1980:


If true that you are Ijaw as stated in above post you should cover your face in shame. Dont make me put up a exploratory on your ethnic group and put your yansh out here for all to see. Watch yourself!

Sorry o na MI cause am I was just curious I didn't mean for it to come out this way am new to nairaland if you don't know. just curious I didn't knowingly insult any tribe I was just asking. anyway even if you say something bad about the Ijaw e nor do MI anything is Ijaw my name it's just a group that I belong to. so goan insult away.

Fatherofdragons:


I used to think of u as a sane person but u are as evil as these afonjas.

Ah Ah wetin I do now na. I only ask question na. My girl friend told me the story and she couldn't answer the question so I moved to Nairaland to quench mah Thirst. I didn't mean to offend anyone .

Eberejesus111:

Abeg ooo, sorry ooo na your name I they look e be like simi, like all this Yoruba names... No vex bruh.

The real name is Sinikien it's a native Yenagoa ijaw name Bayelsa.

Eberejesus111:

Well am sorry dear, if I had offended you in your identity... But that's Africa and Nigeria for you. A word was once said by Chimanmanda adichie (an igbo poet) "racism in my terms isn't by white to blacks or vice versa, but the worst racism is by blacks to blacks, and that's because whites to blacks only judge on colour, but blacks to blacks judge on who I really am as a person"...so am sorry, if your happy and comfortable of being a Saro lady, I appreciate you for that and we all in Nigeria do appreciate you for that.

Another correction Iam not a girl I don't know where u get the impression from. Thanks sha.

SenorFax:
Ideregbe ni e

Explain more.

Eberejesus111:
no
If you say so, that's your opinion thus, but the truth per say the jews were indeed slaves, but Igbos don't look at the terms of calling themselves Jews based on slavery(that had long been forgotten), but based on knowing that they were once the oracles of God, and God had showed wonders and signs when they were at the wilderness.

And that's why I too don't look at it that the Saro were slaves. I just find it hard being bitter because someone calls me Saro I should be sad for what? Sounds strange to me because on a normal day I would just say am Ijaw even if Iam very much detribalized because my father chose to identify as Ijaw even if he can't speak the language.

Eberejesus111:
No
Okay if you say most igbos in the south east speak words like gbeke or agbero (or is there any other word), what about Yorubas in Lagos and most West that say Nna, chineke, and okute... My dear, culture is relative, in your view you can say one or more culture influences other cultures, but in anthropology culture could be shared overtime in terms of language and other variable factors making both or more cultures whole. So are you going to tell me because some Hausa men wear Igbos attire they are being influenced by igbos ,as well as Yoruba wearing Hausa attire, and Igbos wearing Yoruba attires... Yes that's what we call relative coherence. When two or more languages are intertwined they tend to borrow languages from each other, that does not make that culture more influential than the other culture. Before we even go further, do you really know the meaning of influence? Let me tell you, influence can be explained as the power to affect,CONTROL,or MANIPULATE something or someone; the ability to change the development of fluctuating things such as conduct ,thoughts or decisions. And all this words can't describe either the relationship between a Yoruba, igbo, Hausa, urhobo, izon,Ibibio,efik or any other tribe of Nigeria. And the main reason Igbos speak English, isn't because they don't like or love their heritage or language, but they tend to modernize, mix culture so as to be acceptable to the world(and is working). Is just like saying, making sacrifices to lesser gods should still be done, because is their culture... When a foreigner sees that, that sort of culture would be appalling and scary... They'll make hasty generalization of such acts, calling it primitive. Igbos makes culture and modernization to go hand in hand. And there's a big difference between being a Jew and a saro, jews as written in the Bible are the oracles of God, their God fought against the Pharaoh at the red sea, did any body or supernatural being fight for the saros(as you said they were named and tagged such by the foreigners or Yoruba people), and when God had touched the hearts of the slave owners they had released them.. .. So it would be wrong to compare them, although our God doesn't want such to worship him (the Jews) he had found a more better way by Christ Jesus, Christian believers are the real Jews and oracles of God.

I agree but doesn't still change the fact that the Jews were slaves.

MightySparrow:
No relationship. Igbo in the history is the onein Ondo state where Oba Akinruntan reigns

Thanks

amaniro:
Igbo is a place in Yoruba land.
so the indigenes can never be Igbo

just a coincident

am I clear?

FYI am Igbo

Thanks

Quick question for Yoruba people. In the story of Moremi the woman who saved the Yorubas from the Forest people called Igbo In Yoruba. Did the Yoruba assimilate with them or are these people still the same Igbo people in South east or nothing in common. Abeg ai jus de ask? Wu fi hepp MI na?

Eberejesus111:

Where do you get your facts from ...you seem funny, what's your point, "how many people do you see them using Okwa, instead of Abi" ... meaning the Igbos are influential you just said Okwa!!... And another thing, it isn't all people from the south east that uses Abi as an end statement, this is only used by Igbos that live in Lagos, and as well Yorubas who live in South east use the term Okwa too,the same to if I do go to Hausa land I'll use Godiya as an end statement... Is all the same, or haven't you heard the statement "when your with the Roman's behave like the Roman's "(it's a fact). And another thing, if you do read your map so well, most of the Niger delta states although encompassed by water and sea, an excerpt cross River State with a large expanse of land, isn't more populous than the south east(so don't be delusional),there's a difference between landmass and population . If you want to get your facts straight read from the bureau of population statistics. And, miss I only used beauty as one of the factors, if you could read from our different discuss you would see the various points I made, perhaps maybe your conscience is judging you because you know it's the truth that the Igbos are indeed beautiful . And lastly, you said your proud to be Saro, check your history books and read the meaning of Saro, and what I do know is a slave brought from the Americas, why would anyone be proud to call himself a slave, you are not supposed to be bound by your ancestral commands/rules, especially if it's negative( names can affect your personality and also you life) so change your origin or whatever you deem to call it to something more better. Now for the Igbos being influential, we are industrious ( and it's a known adage, anywhere you don't see an igbo man isn't conducive to live), which makes them influential, Igbos brings class to fashion, in terms of the houses they build, you may have observed, when an igbo man is big he lives in royalty, even the Yoruba and your tribe do respect them for that , Igbos are resilient, no matter how the dubious Yoruba chieftains of the past has tried to pull them down, they rise up getting stronger(in essence they are unstoppable), beauty as I've told you, is also part of it. And oh!! You said all Niger deltans see Yoruba as their origin ,can you tell a Niger Deltan ibibio man, or Efik man that, please don't,they'll see you as a weird person... You can say your izon group are their descendants, being that I've read a lot of your history,(your the first saying Izons are of Yoruba origin), what I did hear is that they where subjects to the Benin empire (the Oba) and he had released them in the 15th century, giving them the wastelands of the creeks and swamps as their home... So miss do read your history well it helps, than you being factless.. ,have a Blessed day.

Iam beginning to think you're not reading carefully did I ever say all Nigerdeltans originated from Yoruba I don't remember saying anything of that matter. and did I say Igbos were ugly they are beautiful and ugly people in every tribe. I just used beauty because you seemed like being beautiful is being influential. And Igbos are influential but they not just as influential as the Yorubas maybe they maybe more influential than the Hausas . and I don't use Okwa in my speech nobody around me says that except my dad who is half Igbo but that is only when he's angry or speaking Igbo but not when he's talking normally he uses Abi Shey or Shebi. the Igbos in the south don't live in Lagos nany have never even been there and they say things like Gbeke Shey Abi Agbero and Omo . most of the Igbos born in the South speak pidgin as a first language they cant even speak Igbo only English or pidgin. while you'll see Yorubas most of them still speaking they language (I admire that a lot). In Culture Language and anything contemporary Nigerian the Yorubas are most influential but I agree the Igbos are greatly following them behind. just accept mere truth. And Saro is the way Yorubas call the creole people from Sierra Leone which is a corruption of the word Sierra Leone again which is now what Everybody in Nigeria calls them. even if my ancestors were slaves don't still why I'd deny them when the Jews your people love to claim were actually once Inslaved in Egypt and now many people follow they religion. with your people didn't say you claiming they are lost Jews.

Eberejesus111:

Your saro, sorry to say (no wonder) you accept your a lost slave brought from the Americas, through the Atlantic (that's shameful) ,most American blacks would never claim they are lost tribes of africa(brought as slaves), because they are bitter and knows how it hurts, but African mentality, especially Nigeria they are proud to call theirselves "I AM A SLAVE BROUGHT IN BADAGRY "...and I don't blame them , most of the lost slaves that came to the coast of Nigeria, Yorubas took them, seeing them as elites, and given them a "you must have Yoruba name". So girl, if that's what your saying, in making Yorubas your Chief owner and your influence of your tribe , an advice "Wake-up "...influential, Yoruba!!!, waiting I no go here for this country way I they.

First when talking think how many Yoruba words y ou use that's influence How many people do you see using the words Okwa instead of Abi which is used by most people. think of dressing and culture the yorubas are winning in dat aspect I won't lie the Nigerdeltans are most influence by this but that's the point isn't the entire nigerdelta more populous than the south east covering more geographical space. Since it is influenced by the Yorubas then the Yorubas are the most influential in Nigeria na. if Yoruba influences South-South and every other contemporary Nigerian city then Yoruba win na I think you need to check the meaning of Influence. how does people being more beautiful becomes influence if it is nollywood I agree that Igbo is very more influential there. and you're dissing for being Saro e no consign me why would I be ashamed of my inheritance Iam not hung up in the past I think progressive. which is why I haven't insulted you since. sometimes I feel Like people like u aren't even Igbo but just paid to come and disgrace Igbos with posts like yours imagine they are talking of influence and you're talking fairness and beauty. who beauty epp. if it's trade entrepreneurship and smarts then I can say Igbo I won't lie.

one Question what kind of weed are you smoking I for like join. it's not only African ancestors that believed the earth was flat everyone did and dats when Christopher Columbus comes to save us from our stupidity.

This is better than being hung up on trying to Prove superiority to other tribes like your man Eberejesus is doing. or being too hung up in the past with things like Civil war pity party or I dear say it Biafra. am so jealous I can't speak any Nigerian native language except pidgin. Too bad

chijiblaze:
It's like you're forming your own new language.
Well, I like the effort,...Jisie Ike n'ọrụ...but somethings like new words and prefixes might not be considered to be Igbo.
I'm a purist!

Now I remember why I hate Purists.

Brilliant guy although I don't understand Igbo I like the effort Iam Ijaw by the way. it's good really good.

Oh, wrong thread.

Thought it was going to be about some words that crossed the Atlantic with the slaves - words like 'okra'. I'll quietly see myself out. Jisi' ike.

Abi o! sha the guy try sha but those word I think them borrow am from English not the other way around.

If Igbo is a dying language then Ijaw Urhobo Itshekiri Epie Ogbia and all the other languages in the Nigerdelta have already been buried and turned to dust. Anyways you are welcome to join us o.

JikanBaura:
Flat—heads , Bow legs Albinish skin tune eyes that will be staring at one direction but are actually looking at you wallahi i have never seen an igbo that is genetically fit, igbos body are full of poor genes algorithms. They are the most weird looking Nigerians, infact igbos are bantus.

Dats a lie guy and you know it as much as I hate to admit it you and the OP are smoking the Same thing.

Eberejesus111:

Thank you.

don't drag the rest of Igbo in with you. you're the only one I called tribalistic. Because your argument is Childish and Stupid basing influence through looks and all. My grandma is Igbo and my dad grew up with Igbos so don't drag Igbo to your nonsense.
OK to me the most influential ethnic group are
1 Yoruba in southern Nigeria
2 Hausa Northern Nigeria
3 Igbos
4 Urhobo and Isoko
5 Edo
6 Ijaw
7 Erik
That's my view am Ijaw by the way with Some Saro ancestry. and I won't lie Yorubas are by far the most influential any one who denies this is a liar or maybe dillusional or unexposed.

Eberejesus111:

You don't need to, because every part of Nigeria and diaspora knows about, the average igbo girl and man are embellished with beauty, their a sight to behold...

Well whatever floats your tribalistic boats.