₦airaland Forum

[quote posiHESSBOARD post=32856796]He is not a Yoruba man in any way, my sister was his father,s personal assistant for many yrs, she knows everything about their family, they are not even real Nigerians if you don't know. his great grandfather claimed Hausa but married a Yoruba conquered woman, the same thing with is father olusola saraki who also married yoruba woman[/quote]I think I"ll agree with u on this. The saraki's are not ethnic Yoruba's.
Saraki is not a Yoruba name, I guess they are Fulani's that immigrated from somewhere in Mali.
However, they've mingled with the natives in Ilorin and adopted Yoruba culture.
Bukola himself bears Yoruba names and speaks Yoruba as his first language.
Kwara itself, just like okun in Kogi are considered Yoruba territory.
So any appointment offered to people from those areas will be seen as a plus for the Yoruba's.
Just like IBO's see appointment offered the delta IBO's a plus.

OneNaira6:
Maybe you might want to reread the article again. Nowhere in that article did it state that SW top in infant and child mortality rate. Albeit SE had a slight higher number in children that died before age 1 (and that's 1 out of every 10000 birth) but every other sectors in that section such as measles immunization, maternity mortality rate, antiprenatal coverage, etc SW lacked behind other southern region.
The only thing SW ranked highest in is water sanitation and children under 5 mortality rate. Every sectors (excluding two) discussed in that article, be it educational or human development, SW ranked the least in comparison to other southern region

SE didn't just have a slight higher number in infant mortality, rather it had the 2nd worst infant mortality rate in the entire country.
Worse than the War ravaged born throway NE.
And to me that's very disturbing and it says a lot about basic healthcare in that region.
SW that u guys had been pounding since morning didn't record such position in any of the indices.
And sir go back and read the report beyond education indices.
SW also had the highest record of children sleeping under ITN.
and came second in ANC visit, measles immunisation, skilled attendant delivery etc
Overall SW came top in overall health indices.
Ur statement that SW performed worse in the southern region is fallacious.
And its not all about SE
NC top the list in HIV awareness.

TRIBALSTOOGE:
those panhandlers under ijora bridge right .


those beggars in iddo parks right ?

oga
the same report that gave SE a prominent lead in education that u guys are drooling over also reported what I wrote.
yet, u want to disparage the latter.
then we can as well ignore the whole report.
praise ur strength, and work on ur weakness.
n try and be objective for once.

Emyben:
All i see is SE tops followed by SS. Whats wrong with the North East and North West. NC and SW really trying tho

sw top in improved infant n child mortality indices as well as basic water sanitation.
south east even trail behind NW in infant mortality which is very shocking.
while SE led in overall education, it struggled in childhood health assesment.
I guess your likes only read the first 4 indices n started basking in pseudo euphoria.
go back and read the report properly.

ifyan:
Africa and Inferiority complex are like b......

You know. ..

this has nothing to do with african mentality complex or worshipping oyinbo
its all about endorsement.
its the same leverage you get when top naija stars adorn themselves with your product.
besides, beyonce is not oyinbo.

naturefellow:
Congratulations dear! Must be a milestone for you. This reminds me of the award-winning fashion entrepreneur Eseoghene Odiete (Hesey Designs), who had a career boost after having Richard Branson wear one of her apparels for an event in his company. That was absolutely a big deal for the young designer. Having a look at her LinkedIn profile photo [https://www.linkedin.com/pub/eseoghene-odiete/37/160/71b] may help you to visualize the matter better. Never despise people's achievements or small beginnings.

dont mind them all those haters.
a top celebrity like beyonce wears your cloth and they say its no big deal.
top designers pay huge amount just for celebrities to wear their brand.
its an indirect form of advert.
thousands will be interested in the product just because they saw it on beyonce.
who knew frank oshodi (even in naija) before agbani darego won miss world.

@ op
the truth is most of these girls are not worth it.
not to talk of creating enmity between you and your padi.
forget the victim game they play, these girlz know what they are doing.
your friend also has a game plan and he's playing to the script.
you just came in and spoilt the show.
next time, just stay out of it and remain loyal to your friend.
nobody appreciates the good boy u're trying to be.

Skywalker5:
Men Nigerians are suffering. 50K per month and the government will say they are bringing investors into the country.

@op, you don't have a choice. you need to get experience

You guys are funny sha
So what type of foreign investors are u expecting in a third world company
Nigeria and Nigerians simply don't have what it takes to attract high paying jobs into the country.
If we are really serious about diversification and industrialisation, then we will use our comparative advantage and competitive edge to attract the right kind of investors.
And cheap labour is one of it.
Sorry, but that's the way it is.
Ask China.

first I disagree with those who say 75,000 is nothing. the starting salary of a bsc holder in the federal civil service is 75,000k. people get married n raise families with the amount. they buy cars and embark on building project. its all about frugality n understanding. the average wage in china is $500, yet they have the fastest rising middle class in the world. we earn n spend our salary in naira not in dollars, thus any attempt at comparison or conversion makes no sense.


now at op my piece of advise;
dont travel out of this country illegally or by fraudulent means. trust me its not worth it.
ur present status cannot get u a visa easily in any us embassy, so I dont really know how ur sister intends to bring you in.
travel out only if u have a valid visa. it doesn't matter the type. be it visitor, student, work visa. So long its genuine, take the risk and make the best use of the opportunity.

the ability to service a debt is the single most important factor to consider when borrowing.
@ chronique is either dishonest or ignorant when he made attempt to compare the debt of an industrial nation to that of a third world.
yes, countries like us, japan, uk have a high debt-gdp ratio, but they have the means to service their debt and thats what matters.
this countries can do so because they service their debt using their respective local currency e.g America service its debt in dollars, japan owe its debt in yen.
the advantage in this is that they can print more money to pay off their debt if need be. America has been doing this for some time now and that's why nations are worried about dollar remaining the global currency.
besides, industrial nations are mostly productive with a highly diversified economy.
thus they will always be revenue in the government coffers.
Now it's a whole different ball game for developing or emerging economies.
this countries borrow in dollars and are expected to pay back in dollars, a currency they have no control over.
unlike America that prints dollar at will, these countries need to earn every single dollar by exporting either a product or service. Inability to do so simply means they are at the mercies of their debtors.
most developing nations are mono-economy with weak infrastructures, thus revenue is limited.
Therefore ability to service their debts quickly becomes an issue anytime there is an economic crisis, unlike what obtains in developed nations.
Japan has been battling economic depression since 2000 while US has seen a weak growth over the past 8 years, yet none have defaulted on their loan servicing. But take a look at greece n u can appreciate what I ve been saying.
nigeria story will be more like greece or ghana or argentina when world bank comes calling.

sorepco:
the two countries that have devalued their currecies are russia and venezuela; i qcan even throw in a 3rd for bonus, iran......u c a pattern?

I hope u know the difference BTW depreciation and devaluation of currency.
They are not interchangeable

What u fail to understand is that most of those factories depend on imported raw materials and chemicals for production.
We need to develop our value chain supply first before we embark on this suicidal mission.

cococandy:
If it does come to pass, it won't ruin lives.
It will just provide us with the push we need to go Into the extensive production of what we need for ourselves.

Many economies were built this way.
By the time productivity is at an all time high and quality is great, we would be less dependent on outside products giving us upper hand we need for our currency to be rated high in the international market.

I know my explanations are kinda simplistic but I guess I'm getting my points across

A simpler example.
Imagine if Nigeria didn't have limestone reserves? We would be importing the heck out of cement. Making us more and more dependent on foreign resources.

But countries like USA make use of wood to build their mansions because that is the resource most available to them instead of importing.
And they do it so well it is awesome.
I doubt Nigerians would favor wooden houses over cement if we didn't have limestone.
Na. We would import.

Too bad.

atlwireles:
OP, I like your train of thought. Most people crying about the Naira exchange rate, cannot explain, how it affects their personal life. If segments of our manufacturing & services sectors are negatively affected by the exchange rates, government have tools to ease their problems.

Please, can u mention these tools

First and foremost let me congratulate u for standing up for ur mom
I can assure u she appreciated what u did on her behalf.
As for ur dad, yes he slapped u, but its now dawned on him that his abusive authoritarian behaviours will not go unchallenged.
He will be careful next time.
Stand up for ur mum anytime he tries any rubbish. He will soon tire while u will be stronger.
Try as much as possible to be independent. God will bless ur hustle.
Then u will even have a bigger say.
The truth is most of this men are just bullies, who don't know when to stop.
When they are cautioned, they behave.
No woman, ur mother's age deserve such maltreatment.
They've gone through a lot. They should be allowed to live the rest of their years in peace.

Europe is broke n desperately needs capital inflow to stay afloat.
For now, China remains the biggest global spender.
China is to global economy what Chelsea is to football.
Most countries will do well to align with them one way or another.
US should see it the way it is...... Its nothing personal.

Hillary looks like a divisive figure in america
she's not very popular
I read comments about her on yahoo news today
1500 comments and non was favourable
the comments were hateful n spiteful
one even said an hillary presidency will bring back the north v south american revolution.
I think the general impression in the us is that obama presidency is a mistake.
and really I cant fault them.
he promised change but all we could see both at home n abroad is continuity of the same hegemonic order.
a lot of americanse are angry n tired.
they felt they were swindled by the first-time mantra in 2008.
now, they want nothing of such.
unfortunately, hillary campaign bears such similarities- first female president. Moreover, most Americans feels hillary represent everything that is wrong with washington- elitist govt, arrogance, power obsession, excessive welfarism........
then is the issue of Clinton v Bush dynasty.
democrats will do well to present a more open, less controversial candidate.
I think its time americans do away with both the Bushs' n the clintons'

50calibre:
Your wilful denial of the realities won't change anything. Someone comes here to seek objective advice regarding a life-changing move she's about to make, and expect me to sugar coat the realities all in the name of sounding respectful or politically correct?

Why not tell that to the UN who ranks Nigeria as one of the poorest countries on earth? Yeah! Most countries are developing, the likes of China, Brazil, SA, etc Nigeria however, is not a developing country, it is an under-developed country, a third world among third worlds.

Nigeria's peers in terms of development are the likes of Sudan, Haiti, Somalia, Sierra Leone. Totally inhabitable for anyone who's lived their whole lives in a first world. It shouldn't even be contemplated.

Get ur facts right abeg.
UN regard Nigeria as a middle income economy and not underdeveloped.
Have u heard of the acronym MINT.
I agree we are not where we should be.......as per the likes of Malaysia, Indonesia, turkey, Philippines etc
But we are far above those aid dependent countries u mentioned.

Truckpusher:
Who cares ,I'm a Nigerian, a backward country when it comes to infrastructure but when it comes to human capacity .......even the best civilized people think we are just in our own world where they dare not walk even with their impeccable record.

Proudly Nigerian even with our too many dumb leaders with Buhari being number one on the list.

I'll die a Nigerian even in the next world there is something about this country that makes me proud even when there isn't much to be proud of .

Proudly Port Harcourt boy
Proudly Nigerian to my bones .....haters can hate me wherever they see me but I'm Nigerian for life.

High human capital should reflect in the way the society is organised.
Can u say Nigeria is an organised nation.

oseo1:
I had the pleasure of meeting several olympians during my school days and guess what, when you turn professional YOU pay for your coaches and whoever else you want on your team, Nigerians want the government to do everything for them. Yes I agree we should have a National coach, but to expect the government to pay for individuals is just foolish.

What happens is that when you run for your country you get recognition and international fame thereby making you more relevant to sponsors and companies for endorsements.

The US does NOT pay their athletes, the only pay for transportation and logistics, their athletes compete for national pride. Their sponsors (Nike, Adidas, ....) generally pay them and they pay their individual coaches. The average Nigerian athlete is only loyal to the money they get from Naija, there is next to no National pride.

Oga don't come here and say what u don't know.
Yes, american govt do not directly sponsor their professional athletes.
But the various athletic clubs receives support from govt n corporate bodies alike.
In the u.k, athletics clubs receive funding from both municipal n central govt.
With this funding, the clubs take care of their athletes n helps them compete.
Besides virtually all amateur athletes are under one form scholarship n they do receive training grants.
Now its a bit different in developing countries who takes sport seriously.
The govt funds and sponsor this athletes directly.
The govt establishe national athletic clubs that will be directly responsible for training, development, welfare, progress n competitiveness of both amateur n professional athletes.
The clubs employ national teams coaches, physiotherapists, trainers, nutritionists, psychologists etc for the athletes.
That's how in done in Jamaica, China, Ethiopia, kenya, Cuba n even Russia.
And that's why their athletes perform well in international competitions.

babyosisi:
Tisha no tish me nansense
If 5 per thousand die of nosocomial infection in the USA with all the aseptic ways
Probably 700 out of 1k will die of same in Nigeria with the non existent hygiene
A country where cholera,dysentery and typhoid are endemic
Diseases a medic in the USA may never treat in the course of their entire career
Has anyone seen a doctor or nurse in Nigeria wash their hands from patient to patient

Really
So doctors in the u.s don't get to treat MRSA, VRE, ESBL producing organisms, CDI, VAP.....
No wonder nosocomial infections kill 90,000 americans yearly......
U see urself now
Go and read about nosocomial infections, u no gree.

babyosisi:
Did you bother to read the article before rushing in to quote it Hahahahaha


12,000 -- unnecessary surgery
7,000 -- medication errors in hospitals
20,000 -- other errors in hospitals
80,000 -- infections in hospitals
106,000 -- non-error, negative effects of drugs


186K have nothing to do with the doctors
Tell me what percentage is left

A least they keep records,where is yours?
No documentations
No autopsies
No causes of death
Blame it on the enemies
We don't even know how many people live in the people-forsaken space

Go check the infant and maternal death rates and life expectancy
That is the true test of a country

I hope u know what nosocomial infection is all about.
Because if u do, u won't exonerate healthcare workers
BTW its now called healthcare workers associated infections. HAI.
read about it.

naijafresh:
No system is perfect

I'm not sure she shares this same sentiment with u.
As far she's concerned
The demon eats and dine with Nigerian doctors, while american healthcare workers are next to God.
I wish I can browse and dig out that article I wrote about.
Come and see as Americans were hurling insults at people the op wants us to worship.
They said all they care about is payment and how much of it they can get off u irrespective of treatment outcome.
What shocked me was that they supported the idea of the woman getting a better and cheaper treatment for her daughter in mexico.
They assured her of getting her money's worth in mexico than us.

Comparing a health system of a developing country to that of a developed country is simply illogical.
The challenges are different and approach at finding solution is also not the same.
The problem of Nigerian healthcare system is not incompetence of the healthcare workers.
The same doctors and nurses leave the shores of this country and practice efficiently elsewhere.
The bane of the problem lies in lack of organisation and accountability.
And the above two permeates all sectors in this country.

That's why immigration can organise interview for candidates in a stadium of all places and yet nobody was held responsible for the aftermath chaos.
When people are not held accountable for their actions, abuse is inevitable.
And that's the greed, corruption, nepotism, non challance u see everywhere.

If you've been to a hospital where things work.
Its not because there are better doctors or nurses.
Its because there's a head who doesn't tolerates rubbish. He makes sure people are held accountable for their actions.
I have worked in one of such hospitals before.
As a doctor, u dare not say because u re not on call u won't attend to an emergency.
That's suicidal.
Patients are not kept waiting in casualty overnight. Once they are stabilized , they are moved to the wards where the management team takes over.
U don't push emergency surgeries to the next day.
O&G Consultants on call sleep overnight.

I worked there for 3 years and we only recorded a case of maternal mortality. The confidence women had in our O&G docs was very high.
A consultant had been sacked before for being slothful in his duty.

I know the op is a staunch GEJ supporter.
If only he can provide us with this kind of no nonsense leadership we all crave for.
Maybe then people will sit up and take their duty seriously.
In this country, i know every maternal mortality case should be reported to the presidency.
If the presidency decides to take action on this cases and enacts strict disciplinary measures
Then maybe every doctor all over the country will try their very best not to incur the wrath of the president.
But as I wrote earlier, when people are not held accountable for their action, abuse is inevitable.

[quote babyosisi post=31549554]Yes!

I have answered the only intelligent question posed
No single hospital anywhere in the USA will turn a patient who shows up at the emergency room away[/quote]Abeg, softly, softly
American healthcare system is not eldorado as u are trying to paint it.
Americans are also complaining about their healthcare system
americans who live close to Canadian border now cross over to canada to assess healthcare services like drugs, investigations, basic surgical procedures etc because its much more cheaper and same quality.
Most dentist who live near the Mexican border are moving their facilities to mexico to avoid bureaucracy associated with the burdensome and expensive healthcare industry.
I read an article where a lady accused the medical staffs in a us hospital of worsening her child's condition when on admission. The hospital ignored her complaints and even threatened her. She took her child and left for mexico without proper discharge. The issue was national news in the u.s that time. Most comments I read online supported the woman's action. They described medical staffs as heartless and wicked people. Some even said she will get a better treatment in mexico. I think the child had cancer.
A friend of mine who lives in Carolina complained to me how she paid more for an investigation via her health insurance. She said she would have paid just a third of the amount if she had no insurance and had paid directly from her pocket.
Small wonder most Americans now prefer to have no form of health insurance. At least nobody will scam them of their hard earned money.
And I hope u know most Americans belief health workers like u are the biggest beneficiary of their health insurance premium.
Thus a growing resentment against doctors and other health care workers.
I don't need to tell u about Medicare and Medicaid that's on the verge of collapse once China stop lending u guys money.
Just pray Hilary Clinton wins the next presidential election, or else the republicans will come with their voucher card health care payment that will definitely be rationed.
Then we
will see how nice and happy american doctors will be to treat people for free.
And if I may ask u
Why are american doctors and nurses against obamacare?
A noble idea that intends to give a universal healthcare coverage to all Americans simply wants to go down the drain because of the greed and selfishness of some few.
A few ingrates that babyosis represents.

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tete7000:
The way you talk out your idea sounded imposing and you make it sound like the whole world should listen and buy your idea. If you doubt me, review your language. It is why I replied you. I am a Christian, I believe in Church's wedding for what it is as much as I respect a certain aspect of traditional values. Christians have long ago renounced some of their traditional values and embraced certain values that accompany their new found faith. Church wedding is part of it and every elements of that ceremony has a significance. It is for serious Christians and not for everyone. You are free to opt out of it if you are not a Christian.

Oga
I'm a Christian but I don't your theory
Personal revelation is subject to different interpretations, so don't come here and expound unsubstantiated facts as the truth.
Clearly show us in the scriptures where this so called church wedding is a must.
if u fail to do so, then don't come here and ascribe church wedding as a core value to the Christian faith.
please, start acting like the bereans' and stop allowing your pastor to brainwash you.

joywendy:
really op no one is focusing you to do a white wedding.
just say you don't want to do it, than coming here to rant that it's unafrican. There is always a court marriage which is way much cheaper and faster, if that's your problem.

the trad marriage does it offer a certificate to prove that you are both married? i think not correct me if am wrong. that the most important thing in a wedding the marriage certificate.



There are many things we do in Africa that's not a part of our culture from the beginning. you may as well throw your college degree in to the bin since it's un African. you may as well stop typing in English and start typing in your native dialect because every other thing is unafrican. you may as well stop wearing western attire because its unafrican. you may as well drop your religion and go back to the African religion of sango and all because its unAfrican.

if you claim you want to boost the African culture.


ladies who tend to just be normal and don't apply facial makeup are seen as members of the s.u. when she does she is suffering from cultural slavery.
The generalization in your post irritates me.
i know some ladies who prefer trad wedding to the white one.

everyone knows that the white wedding isn't from Christianity. so what exactly are you blabbing about?

inferiority complex
i laugh in Swahili ain't you part of those Africans?
who discriminate others who are trying to continue the old culture by referring to some of things done has barbaric? you will be the first to point fingers at people who decided to wore bare on their feet and tie wrapper.

#smh

hypocrisy at it's peak.

The fact that you got so many likes for this rubbish you wrote shows the high number of empty skulls residing in this country.
for your information, Africans were the first set of people to open universities in this world.
go and read about university of Timbuktu, a school founded more than 1000 years ago. at its peak it had over 25,000 students and 700,000 books.
it awarded degrees in medicine, mathematics, and postgraduate degrees.

pls, grab a book and read before coming online to display your ignorance.

Eluwilussit:
Unfortunately, everything this man said appears to be true. Nairalanders don't read anything before jumping to comment. If Jona throws this proposition to those thieves at both houses of assembly, does anyone here think they will say no?

We call him clueless, but it appears we are the clueless ones. The bitter truth is that Jonathan will be acting within the constitution.

APC and Buhari are indeed learners. PDP na master. The fear of Anthony Anineh is the beginning of political wisdom.

GEJ, you badt ghen!

All these scenario unfolding are beyond jonathan himself
he is as helpless as we electorates
he is just a pawn in the hands of the powers that be.

anybody that thinks any election is going to hold on march 28 is on a long thing.
just because its always cold in jos doesn't mean snow is going to fall.
its obvious jonathan cannot win a free and fair (sophisticated rigged) election.
the next option is tenure elongation or ING

As for the march4buhari crew
sorry, buhari's case has been concluded.
he's a bygone.
the cabals don't want him.

To we the electorates
Let's just accept whatever outcome for peace to reign
its only when there's peace that we can shout 'change or continuity'.

woodcook:
At first you guys called him clueless and spineless, now he has decided to act and you are calling Nebuchadnezzar.

Sincerely, do you think GEJ is the one acting?
He's no longer in charge.
The poor guy is as helpless as the electorates.

woodcook:
At first you guys called him clueless and spineless, now he has decided to act and you are calling Nebuchadnezzar.

do you sincerely think GEJ is the one acting?
He's no longer in control.
The poor guy is as helpless as the electorates.

Litmus:
Why would bokoharam attack Niger ask yourselves that? Bokoharam is supposedly being fought by Nigeria, Chad and Cameroon. In addition, AU wants to come to Nigeria and UN and France too and yet Bokoharam goes and attacks Niger, inviting more enemies. You think its arrogance, drugs, or like I've alll ways argued Bokoharam wants foreign forces on Nigerian soil.

Why would bokoharam want foreign forces in Nigeria?

My feeling is that the answer depends on the powers backing Bokoharam. If Bokoharam is a genuine wahibist franchise like Alkaida and ISIS funded initially or still so by powers like Saudi Arabia/Quarter then Bokoharam probably are at once seeking to illicit the sympathy of foreign fighters to come join thire Jihad and wanting to spread their Jihad through the West Africa region and in the processes linking up with Alkaida in the Maghreb.

However, if Bokoharam is receiving Western support, then Bokoharam's motive is to legitimate Foreign forces in Nigeria. I know that Nigerians find it difficult to imagine that when those forces do arrive that chiefs behind the scenes could be controlling both the slaughtering of Bokoharam terrorists while at the same time arming and recruiting more terrorists to join Bokoharm so that the fighting never ends in Nigeria. Gradually over time things will deteriorate in Nigeria and perhaps in the sub-region creating lucrative opportunity for all sorts of Nations and interests. Through back-channels, even as Bokoharam is being decimated, Bokoharam will have funds to recruit , terrorist from far-flung places will join them. We would have one vast lucrative war stretching right across West Africa to central Africa. And the potential of Nigeria will die with all this forever or until the Whites come and take control and bring peace, decades down the line. There'd be new lines drawn on the map of West Africa and the people that now make up Nigeria would no longer stand tall but would be like the rest of Africa, wringing our hands and being grateful to the white master and singing his praises and daring to do nothing without his approval. And his approval will never permit space travel because there are hungry mouths to feed first etc, etc


Hope I'm wrong but Nigerians be warned, take nothing for granting, dismiss nothing...watch them like hawks

Mr conspiratory therorist, calm down abeg.
ur imagination is running u wild.
if western countries are looking for a legitimate reason to have a military foothold in Nigeria
they would have done so last year, during the chibok girls crisis,
but the foreign forces only came, saw and left.
western countries may not like Nigeria, but they also don't hate us.
rather, they expect us to get our acts and priorities right and be a regional power we are suppose to be.
but when a poorly funded rag-tag militia like book haram begins to re-draw the map of Nigeria
its normal for sane and serious nations to ask questions.

ChristineC:
This is happening around the boarders, insurgents strike and run across boarders most times. Involving the other national army is inevitable because they also have their sovereignty to protect, any chase beyond boarders without permit is war.

And just so you know, this is no video games!

but Chadian troops crossing over to Nigerian territory is not a declaration of war?
continue giving excuse for incompetence

halimat38:
nja should be ashamed of themselves,chad is fighting our battle for us and they don't even have oil like nja that can afford to buy one helicopter for it's army .
60 billion just waka comot for treasury account
nja will still go and stand in the line and vote the same corrupt leaders.







Nja for shammmme

as in........eehn
the thing tire me......
amazingly.....
a lot of people don't even see anything wrong in it