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Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 10:31pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
Lol, you didn't answer the question.
Does smoke have aroma. Yes or No.

All smoke has smell, it doesn't need diffusion from aroma, wtf is that gan lol

When you burn something, won't the smell of that thing come out in the smoke?
Where did I say smoke needs diffusion from aroma?
Go and find your chemistry textbook and read about diffusion.

Now answer my question. Must there be smoke to have aroma?
Do u need smoke to produce aroma?
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 10:01pm On Sep 03, 2023
[quote author=Maynman post=125558956]Listen to your advice and answer the question I have been asking you.

Does smoke have an aroma? Yes or No [/quote

I asked u first but u dodged a simple question. Yes smoke and aroma do diffuse. So both spread out from it's original source.

Now answer this question. Do u need a smoke for there to be aroma.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 9:55pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
Burning Smoke goes up always.

Does smoke have an aroma?
That's not my question.

Do smoke diffuse. Yes or No.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 9:33pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
Aroma doesn't diffuse, it is particles that diffuse.
Burning smoke ALWAYS go up
Do smoke diffuse?
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15:
Maynman:
Olay means to ascend, the smoke which is ascending.
The septuagint is not written in hebrew but greek, olah is just one of the korbans.
Jepthat or whatever sacrifice his child just like moab did.
What u posted validate my point.
The root meaning of olah is 'to ascend'. It doesn't say anything about smoke ascending...stop lying.
It could be used for burnt offering but also be used as 'to go up' or 'offer to something higher'
Septuagint attached it permanently to burnt offering. They are not wrong but olah could mean other things in the literal sense.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 9:07pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
This is because "scent molecules"

Ask chatgpt does smoke have an aroma/smell?
Ask it yourself.
What's diffusion? Tell me what u learnt about diffusion in chemistry class.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 9:06pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
The name is a translation of the Septuagint rendering, which is itself based upon the descriptive phrase often attached to "'olah" in the ritual prescriptions: "an offering made by fire unto the Lord" lol cool
I'm talking about the original Hebrew meaning. Olah literally means to bring up.
The Septuagint is the one that attached olah with burnt offering. Pls read about Septuagint b4 replying.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 8:28pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
Nothing is there.

https://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/3847-burnt-offering#anchor12
I updated. God is not interested in the smoke but the aroma.

This is from the link evidence u produced
Olah means that which go up.
Jephthah presented his daughter unto the Lord. Not burnt her as sacrifice.

Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15:
Maynman:
Read what chatgpt said 😂😂
U need glasses. Very good one.

Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 7:55pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
Did I ever say you said smoke don't go up?

Olah is always use in burnt sacrifice context, and it's smoke that is going up.
I've updated. Check the response answer. Your answer is there.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 7:29pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
Aroma fills the air, smoke goes up, you can LITERALLY see it go up.

You are desperate to defend your deity, so I understand.
Did I ever tell u smoke doesn't go up. Abi which Kain strawman argument be this.
God is interested in the aroma not the smoke.
Does aroma go up? Yes or No

Good u checked on the meaning of olah which means to go up.
Judge 11.39 says 'I will offer as a burnt offering' which means I will give as that which goes up.
There's was no human sacrifice.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 7:27pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
Aroma does not go anywhere, read, scent molecules.
🤣🤣😂😂

Argue with chat gpt.
Am trolling u now...have u checked the meaning of diffusion.
Let's do some chemistry lessons here.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 7:20pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
Whose lord?
The omniscience one?
U know me I don't have a problem bringing your friend. Your very good friend that loves to disgrace u.

Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 7:18pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
Where did it say aroma goes up?
I asked u where is the LORD.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 7:17pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
The same way you will know if you are downstairs and someone is cooking.

What is diffusion?
Check your chemistry textbook book or ask any WAEC student.

Seriously I don't even understand what we arguing about anymore.
The aroma will spread out from it's initial source, simple. Vertical, adjacent, horizontal doesn't matter. It goes up, down, concentric whatever.
Same thing with smoke. Smoke also will spread out.

What exactly is your point? This is what happens when u desperately trying to force a nonsense idea into a conspicuous narrative. u end up looking foolish.

Jephthah's daughter remain a virgin for life. That was the sacrifice and the aroma unto the Lord. Stop looking for smoke.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 7:09pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
The aroma here is not from the burnt offering, read previous verses.
I read previous verses in same chapter and came up with this.

Cut the ram into pieces and wash the internal organs and the legs, putting them with the head and the other pieces. 18 Then burn the entire ram on the altar. It is a burnt offering to the Lord, a pleasing aroma, a food offering presented to the Lord.

I know u looking for smoke so u can find a leg to stand on and claim Jephthah killed her daughter.
U go wait tire. Her virginity was her sacrifice unto the LORD.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 7:04pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
It doesn't go anywhere. Another version of that verse said "sweet savor".
Sweet savor goes up?
So how would I know if someone is cooking if I'm in my room upstairs. The aroma will spread from where to where. Do u know what's called diffusion at all?
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 6:59pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
The aroma here is not from the burnt offering, read previous verses.
So if aroma fills the air, does it go up?
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 6:58pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
You didn't see the laughing emoji, the exodus verse where did it say aroma goes up?
Where's the LORD's abode.....in the ground?
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 6:47pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
You are the one not making sense, Aroma does not go up.
Aroma fills the air.
There are countless verses in leviticus talking about smoke going up to heavens.

Aroma goes up
from downstairs to upstairs
So which one should we believe.
Cognitive dissonance at play. sincerely, I think u need to seek therapy.

Meanwhile....

Then take them from their hands and burn them on the altar along with the burnt offering for a pleasing aroma to the Lord, a food offering presented to the Lord. Exodus 29.25

This is what God needs in the offering. The aroma, he doesn't need your smoke.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God:the Quran Evidence by SIRTee15: 6:39pm On Sep 03, 2023
Ibrahimlagosian:
Stop spewing rubbish,let me correct what you're saying before i give you my response
1:the Qur'an was not written,it was revealed.
2:The Quran clearly says that anyone who claim Jesus is god is a kafir or disbeliever.Do you what,i can't type my finger sore trying to convince someone who want to lead himself astray and wallow in darkness of falsehood.
1. Revealed by who? Definitely not God. Maybe revealed by Muhammad except u telling me Muhammad is same as Allah.

2. Well I have no problem with Qur'an saying Jesus isn't God or he's not the son of God. That's your believe.
But when the same Qur'an said Muslims should confirm from the gospel what has been written in the Qur'an.
I just but wonder if this is not cognitive dissonance.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 6:14pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
Lol, if reverse was the case, I won't smell the aroma?
Aroma only goes up?
U not making sense anymore.

TheMadame help him answer the question.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 5:37pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
Ask your own sister if aroma goes down.

When you see a food served hot, you can see the steam go up, when you grill you can see the smoke go up literally, you don't see smell go up or down.
If u upstairs and someone is cooking downstairs, how do u know what the person is cooking....by the smoke?
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 5:03pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
aroma means smell, smell goes up?
You don't need to cook to get aroma, when you cook, only steam and smoke goes up lol
Tell me u don't cook without saying it.
Ask your sister or girlfriend if aroma goes up
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 4:35pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
We are talking about judges and that Incident, there was no king during these periods.
Aroma doesn't go up, the smoke is the aroma that goes up to the omnipotent god lol

She was offered as sacrifice, I wonder what you will say if she was not a virgin.
I think we done here. U confabulating again.
So the exodus period had kings....Who do u think was talking in exodus 29.25?

Aroma doesn't go uphuh U will know those who doesn't cook.
Well the bible clearly states aroma goes up as a sweet swelling fragrance to God.

The bible states she was a virgin. Nothing more to say about it.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 4:33pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
The verse never said anything about marry, but she was a virgin.

Burnt offering means what it means, which other verse does burnt offering mean service in the temple?
Read, don't suffer from cognitive dissonance.

But grant me this one request,” she said. “Give me two months to roam the hills and weep with my friends, because I will never marry.

38 “You may go,” he said. And he let her go for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never marry. 39 After the two months, she returned to her father, and he did to her as he had vowed. And she was a virgin
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Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 3:21pm On Sep 03, 2023
TheMadame:
My issue with people like you is the regular resort to using abusive words on anyone who does not agree with your perception. Why using the word ignorant?
The standard operating word in this passage is BURNT OFFERING!
No matter how you twist and turn the words of this Bible passage the standard operating word remains BURNT OFFERING.
Burnt offering in the verse meant to go up to the Lord.

The original hebrew passage denotes 'as a burnt offering which ascends to LORD'.
There's no mention of death or sacrifice.

The phrase in contention here is the root word 'owlah' which could mean burnt offering or ascent or 'to go up' depending on how it's used as a noun or verb.

The passage speak only of something being given up to God. The Hebrew literal translation of Jephthah’s words would be, “I cause that which goes up to go up.”

Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 2:25pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
virgins don't have kids.
The fear that controls you, don't control me.
You are worshipping a lie, better look up on the origin of the book of revelation.

What does burnt offering mean?
Virgins also don't marry and they don't have sex. These 2 were emphasised in the bible but nothing about not having kids.

Not all non-virgins have kids. U should know that.
But all non virgins in ancient Israelites must have been married at a point in their life. Being otherwise could be fatal for the girl.

Burnt offering already explained and it's meaning in the verse clarified.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 2:14pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
All burnt sacrifices connotes that hebrew word.

The smoke from the burning goes up.
Only the levite priest can perform burnt offering. They would not accept a human being as burnt offering because it's abominable to God.

What goes up from the burnt offering to God is the aroma. That's what is pleasing to God, not the smoke.

Then take them from their hands and burn them on the altar along with the burnt offering for a pleasing aroma to the Lord, a food offering presented to the Lord. Exodus 29.25

That's why there was emphasis on her virginity in the passage.
She was offered to serve God undefiled. The same reason nuns are meant to be virgins because that is what u are sacrificing for God.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 1:23pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
She is mourning that she has no kids, the purpose of women then was primarily reproduction

What does burnt offering mean?
Show me in the passage where it mentioned not having children.
Emphasis was on never marry and virginity.
Mourning because of no kid is a figment of your imagination to add your own words.
Revelation 22 punishment is awaiting u...ask TheMadame
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 11:14am On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
The vow is the burnt offering.
The Hebrew verb and noun translated in the phrase of Jephthah’s vow, “I will offer up for a burnt offering” (Judg. 11:31).
Both the verb and noun come from the one root, ‘olah (sic), meaning “to go up.”
The words themselves, however, do not connote the idea of death. They speak only of something being given up to God. A literal translation of Jephthah’s words, in fact, would be, “I cause that which goes up to go up.”
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 11:08am On Sep 03, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Look at what you have said, persons awaiting execution of death sentence can never lament solely about loss of sex and marriage. They lament about living and seeing the sun and relatives and people and Solomon in Ecclesiastes shows you.

But when you are told that you are going to be castrated or you suffer erectile/penile dysfunction or womb loss or made a monk, sex and marriage are the matters you must be wailing about!
Help me ask TheMadame, Maynman and Dantedasz. They are the ones claiming the girl was killed.
I've asked them this question but they refused to reply because they know their stupidity will be exposed.
Maynman rarely fails to respond to mentions but he's gone ghost mode.

How can a girl about to be killed gather her friends and take them to the mountain to moan about not having sex.
Makes no sense.

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