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nairalanda1:
LOL...and yeah, we are in the soup because...for years when oil prices were low, we had to take loans to keep the head above water.

Now most of our revenue is going to pay for those loans.

At the end, either we pray we get 30 trillion dolalrs in the federation account by this Firday, or we accept we are broke and cut our coats accroding to our size.

After the reggae comes the blues. When oil prices were high, all of you were enjoying. When oil prices were low, you took loans to keep enjoying. And you think there be no consequences....Awon oil rich country.

30 trillion dollars for wetin

nairalanda1:
Floating naira as much as APC may present it as some miracle drug, was not going to solve our problems

Our main problem is simple. We no earn much.

Since u know the main issue, why then do u support their monetary tightening policy.
Do u know what that mean, it's called SAP.
Middle class will be wiped out and there will be only the rich and poor.
I warned u here multiple times that the removal of subsidy will change nothing. Here are we, 650 per litre and yet we still need to subsidise.
Paper economics don't work for emerging economies. Our structure is different and doesn't fit into their own planned economic system.
In Nigeria, there is more money outside the banking sector than within. U can't control inflation by raising interest rate, u will only make the people poorer.

nairalanda1:
Exactly

But we all want free money so that we can have our cheap imports...so the CBN does practicies that are bad

But no, people will come here and call him IMF man, and start telling us the long stories of how the IMF wrecked this and that economy.

The harsh truth is, we are in the mess we are in because WE rely on ONE SOURCE OF INCOME, whose prices fluctuate, and as a result the income is never guaranteed, and never enough, so we have to take LOANS, AND MORE LOANS.

That's how we enter the IMF trap.



That's a major way we fund subsidy over the decades...see above.

Didn't they push for floating of the naira, how did it pan out?

Praying to the dead is necromancy. It's a big sin in front of God.
God forbid any form of communication, interaction or veneration of the dead, either one way or two ways. It's an abomination in the sight of God.

God banned Israelites from calling upon the dead, but Muslims every day will call upon Muhammed who is dead yet they think their Allah is the God of the bible.

Deuteronomy 18:10-12
There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For whoever does these things is detestable to the Lord; and because of these detestable things the Lord your God will drive them out before you.

Why must Muslims call upon a dead Muhammed, something they do everyday. They call upon a dead person when praying and they expect God to answer such prayers.

Muslims should read the books of genesis, exodus, Leviticus, numbers and Deuteronomy.
It would dawn on them they are in the wrong religion.




MUSLIMS SHOULD STOP PRAYING TO A DEAD PERSON, IT'S A SIN.

[quote author=MindHacker9009 post=126017593][/quote]Go and read about the zealots. The movement didn't start in 66 AD.
They emerged from the 4th philosophy sect of 1st century judaism. The other 3 were Pharisee, Sadducees and Essenes.
This Judaism movement was started by Judas of Gamala and Zadok the Pharisee in 6 AD.
Philos was very much around at that time, did he write about the 4th philosophy
One of Jesus disciple was called Simon the zealot.

The idea that Philo doesn't write about political affairs isn't true. He wrote about Pontus Pilate as a Roman governor in Judea area describing him as harsh. Why didnt he write about the zealots.

So Philos wrote about a non Jew Messiah. But didnt write about the Jewish Messiahs.
Did he write about Jewish Messiah figures like Judas of Gamala, Theudas and Menahem.
Did he write about John the baptist, an influential member of the Essene sect who performed ritual baptism and awaited the Messiah figure.
Obviously, he felt their their Messiah was irrelevant to bother about but should have bothered about that of jesus. Why?

It was a pattern where this foreign born Jews elevate a non Jew as Messiah and completely ignore the home Jews.
They did the same for Cyrus the persian, insert his name into the book of Isaiah as the Messiah foretold.

Read below about Messiah figures in early first century and ask yourself why philo didn't write about them.

sonmvayina:
Check this quote from a renowned bible scholar

Bart Erhman believed Jesus exist.
Josephus wrote about Jesus in the 1st century AD.
Even Bart Erhman confirmed Josephus wrote about Jesus
So what are on about.

Aemmyjah:
Leave him
I'm not wrong tho
No be dem de talk say Jesus na Roman invention and that all the characters in the Bible na myth?
Just as the Philistines who were taunting Israel, ran away when their champion was humiliated
Even if I were an atheist on this thread, seeing how someone has used Maynment head to mop to mop the ground, I would equally deny all that I have said before to save my face and be very mad at anyone that tag me... @LordReed? You no for like rescue Maynment?

I gave him a wild card enter ring and regain the honour of your fallen comrade. He's busy chasing shadows.

LordReed:
So who is the them you are referring to in your post. Make you dey psych yourself. LoLz.

U not worth the time. Abeg

LordReed:
I guess it's your doppelganger that wrote the post screenshot attached here. LoLz.

I didn't mention u, I quoted aemmyjah. He was the one that brought u to the thread NOT ME.

LordReed:
Oga I didn't mention you first, you mentioned me. You didn't call me but you are asking me to defend a position I have never taken. Your brain dey hot my guy, go sleep. LoLz.

Show where I mentioned u without a quote from u.
Another wonder wants to happen tonight.

Aemmyjah:
Like
Buhari of Nigeria is not real
But Jubrin of Sudan is real

Maynman now don't be a hypocrite.
If you can believe Jesus of Nazareth is different from jesus Christ.

Then u should be amongst gullible Nigerians that believed jubrin el sudani is different from Muhammad Buhari of daura

Don't be a liar, say the truth and shame the devil.

LordReed:
So even after being unable to show anywhere I said Jesus didn't exist or was created by Romans, you expect me to still defend that position yet I am the one who needs to learn. LoLz. Guy maybe your brain is saturated and unable to absorb new info. Go andrest your head so it doesn't overheat. LMAO.

U never enter ring, your eyes don dey see double.
When did I call u?
U mentioned me and I said rescue your friend in whatever capacity u can. Or are not anti bible again.
Is Jesus historicity the only controversial topic in Christianity.
I offered u a wild card...take it or leave it.

I didn't call u. Go and look for who called u.

Can any atheist help me make sense out of this below

According to Maynman

JESUS OF NAZARETH IS REAL BUT JESUS CHRIST IS NOT REAL.



Matt 21
10 When Jesus entered Jerusalem, the whole city was stirred and asked, “Who is this?”

11 The crowds answered, “This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee.”

Cc

LordReed:
So all atheists say Jesus didn’t exist or was invented by the Romans because some atheists say so?

Guy drop legalism.
Take what u can learn from here or better still wear glove, enter ring and rescue your fellow atheist in whatever capacity u can.
All anti bible conspiracy theory are welcomed.

LordReed:
Can you quote any place I said Jesus didn't exist or was a creation of Romans?

LordReed me I no know o. No be me call u.
But I sha know lots of u atheist here on nairaland believe Jesus is either fake or invented by Romans.

This believe is also held by the lost black Jews on this forum.

Aemmyjah:
Maynment is always deluding himself
He's rather bury his head in sand

Whenever I cook in the kitchen, I'm always laughing and people wonder why... Cooking in the kitchen reminds me of the infamous conversation between Maynment and Sirtee about aroma and smoke

Atheists say we adopt a white man religion and we are brainwashed
When we ask them if Atheism is African, they say that is what the white men now believe in. Shame

🤣😅😂🤣😂😭🤣

The boy no gree o for that day o.
He insisted smoke is what is desired when cooking. Make people come dey inhale smoke as if they told him they are chain smokers.
The guy funny die. Maynman is a clown.

Today I pinned him to a corner regarding historicity of Jesus.
He was desperate and actually looking for a way out without contradicting Bart Erhman when he had to admit Jesus of Nazareth is real.
Otherwise he would look dumb and stupid according to Bart Erhman.

Aemmyjah:
Wow
Maynment
Somyavina
LordReed
Jaephoenix should see this

Well, we don't even need chatgpt to confirm Jesus historicity
Atheists, Jews and Bible critics are the ones deluding themselves

Pls call them so they can learn.
Maynman has finally confessed Jesus of Nazareth is real, only that he's not Christ.
Soo wonderful. I'm happy have been able to cure an atheist of his insanity.
Any other thing he's doing is pretense. Trying to safe face.
He's been cured.

Pls call others for them to come and receive their healing.

Maynman:
Believer j will say whatever I want.
Bart was not talking about jesus christ, but jesus of nazareth, NAZARENE.
The jesus christ is a fabrication like Bart said.

Well if u want to play multiple personality disorder. That's a game u play alone since u are the only one with such disorder here.

U have ended splitting Jesus into two figures- one Christ and the other Nazareth.
Your case is beyond redemption.

Maynman:
I don't have mental psychosis, why do I need to "believe" someone was born from a virgin. 😂

Why are u like this? Why are dribbling backwards.
We already moved away from virginity issue. Forget about it.
U don't agree Jesus of Nazareth was born a virgin. Fine we move.

The good thing is we wont be on and off about did Jesus exist in 1st century again.
We've passed that stage.

Now we will focus on WHO IS JESUS OF NAZARETH that both of us as well as Bart Erhman all agree existed in the 1st century.
Trust me it's a really good improvement.

Maynman:
And also said....

The jesus he was talking about was not born of a virgin, believer 😂😂

Ok no problem.
So u believe Jesus of Nazareth wasn't born a virgin. That's a good start. U are getting there little by little.

The most important thing is u believe in a 1st century AD Jesus of Nazareth.

Now we moved away from does Jesus exist. We now on who is Jesus of Nazareth.
Very good.

[quote author=MindHacker9009 post=126010742][/quote]Jewish historian wrote about Jesus...Josephus.

The question is about a Jewish philosopher who did not write anything about all the riots that rocked Judea and Jerusalem during his time.
Did not write anything about all the Messiah claimants including those that raised an army against the Roman govt.

Jesus wasnt the only person who claimed to be Messiah and was killed. Did he write about other ones like Judas of Gamala who told Jews not to pay tax and led an army against the Roman legion.

Philos did not write anything about the zealots movement whose action led to the destruction of the 2nd temple and expulsion of Jews from Jerusalem.
Did not write anything about the Herod dynasty.

These are reports that definitely rocked the entire Roman empire during their time. The emperor in Rome had to personally send troops down to judea to crush Jewish rebellion.

Philos was alive all thru this period but wrote nothing about these events.

Very funny. Very funny indeed.


Unless u can give me a valid excuse why philos was silent about these major events during his time, u shouldn't ask me about Jesus.

As regards Jesus ministry and his miraculous wonders.
Do u know Olumba Olumba?

Maynman:

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Your jesus does not exist, get that to your dumb head 😋

😄😅😅

U denying your mentor now, Bart Erhman. he clearly said Jesus existed.

Maynman:
Your jesus christ does not exist

😂🤣😂🤣

I will cure u of that insanity. At least your recovery is on the way.
We now know how to take handle future debates now that Maynman ACCEPTS THAT JESUS OF NAZARETH EXIST.

Maynman:
Bart said jesus of nazareth for a reason, no where did he say jesus christ Existed.

You are worshipping a man

So u agree with Bart Erhman that Jesus of Nazareth existed.
That's all.

Maynman:
Do you acknowledge that jesus christ never existed just like Bart Erhman?

Bart is referring to the same person. He's just questioning the Christology of jesus of Nazareth.
That's all.

Do u now accept that Jesus of Nazareth is a real person.

Maynman:
Where did Bart say he believe?

Do u accept the reality that Jesus of Nazareth is real just like Bart Erhman.

Maynman:
Where did Bart say he believe?

Do u agree with Bart Erhman that Jesus of Nazareth existed.

Maynman:
Where did Bart say he believe?

Do u acknowledge that Jesus of Nazareth exist just like Bart Erhman.

Maynman:
I am not a believer.

But u believe Jesus of Nazareth exist just like Bart Erhman.

Maynman:
Why do you need to believe he existed?

I should be asking u.

Maynman:
I am sure the people who will see this will see how mental psychosis is worrying you.

Keep living in your land of make believe.

Do u believe Jesus of Nazareth exist.

Matthew 21.10-11
When Jesus entered Jerusalem, the whole city was stirred and asked, "Who is this?"
The crowds answered, "This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee."

So Maynman finally admitted that Jesus of Nazareth existed but not the one called Christ.
He also admitted that Jesus of Nazareth is real but not the one from Bethlehem.
U go fear cognitive dissonance.

However, that's a huge step for him to step out his madness. This shows he's curable. We will step up the fire.

I will continue to torment all atheist on this forum. That confusing spirit in their brain must be flushed out by fire by force.