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22jumpstreet1:
what of olumba olumba? is he GOD?

Who is olumba olumba. Is he amongst the thousands of gods.

AntiChristian:
I agree, just pointing him to another contradiction to what he said earlier!

There's no contradictions. Jesus is fully man and fully God and rightly described himself as such.
I'm sure you been told million times but I understand.
The day u accept is the day u leave Islam. So continue ignorance of compulsion.

AntiChristian:
Chai! Subhanallah! But the context shows it's not metaphorical!

The Stoning of Stephen
…55But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked intently into heaven and saw the glory of God and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. 56“Look,” he said, “I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.” 57At this they covered their ears, cried out in a loud voice, and rushed together at him.…



I admit that one has to be asinine to successfully explain trinity!

For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus. 1 Timothy 2:5

1. One God! (Not three)
and
2. One mediator between God and mankind who is THE MAN (NOT GOD) JESUS CHRIST!

God is one!
Jesus is man not God!

Mr Man, the vision of Stephen is called anthropomorphism. God is described expressions that makes meaning to us as humans.
God is described as having a face, ears, hand and feet in the bible. But he's invisible. The bible says no one has seen God but his son who is also God.
When God dwelled in the tabernacle or the holy of holy, he was invisible. Israelites didn't see him.

Now to the son of Man, let's see how the old testament described him.

13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man,[a] coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.

Finally since u happy to quote the words of Paul saying Jesus is a man, which we don't have a problem with anyway.
U shouldn't have a problem when same Paul said the FF about Jesus.


Philippians 2:5-7
Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.

Colossians 1:15
[Jesus] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created…

Colossians 2:9
In [Christ] all the fullness of the Godhead deity dwells bodily.

Now if u deny the above writings of Paul, then u ate just a desperate hypocrite. Choose and pick what suits your fancy just like u people do with your hadiths.

Furthermore, this is what Peter said about Jesus.

2 Peter 1:1
To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Finally John 1. 18 says

No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.


Choose your pick, the buffet is plenty and in abundance.

We Christians don't make things up like u Muslims do. Jesus being God is as real as the father being God.

AntiChristian:
God is one existence but can manifest in three persons!
How does God manifest in three persons yet one of the "persons" calls the other "person" God?

If Jesus calls the father God and they are both persons in the trinity then can we say Jesus is God to the father too?

There's a difference between God and God incarnate my friend.
God took a flesh upon himself and manifested as the 2nd person of the trinity in a person called Jesus.
Jesus also has the human nature with a human soul. That human nature must be subservient to the divine nature which is God.
Just like we must ensure our human nature submits to our spirit nature- influenced by the holy spirit to be real Christians.

AntiChristian:
That's your division. My division of a human is into only namely: Body and Soul/Spirit. i.e. Spirit = Soul.

Then don't extrapolate your erroneous thought to Christian theology.
The bible clearly teach the separation of the soul and spirit.
Your Koran muddled it up and leaves it's readers confused on which is which.

AntiChristian:
I am the one sitting! My body and Soul! But this is never applicable in God's case!

Check this verse from Max above:

“Look! I see the heavens opened up and the Son of man standing at God’s right hand.” Act 7:56

The son of Man (i.e. Jesus) was standing....the father probably sitting was separate from your son of man and the holy Spirit must be somewhere else!

How is it not applicable. You are seen as one despite u having a spirit and a soul. Your existence is one entity, so u would be seen as one.
God entity is ONE and will always be seen as ONE my friend.

Now to some doctrinal teachings. God described himself having a soul, would his soul be seen differently from him? Would the spirit of God which is the holy spirit be seen differently from him.
If your own soul can't be seen differently, why do u think the soul and spirit of God be seen differently.

U said u believe soul and spirit is the same. So tell me what is ruh and naffs in the Koran.
Which one gives life to man, which one is the seat of emotions and intelligence in man, which one departs and return to God after death.
According to the Koran is the soul naffs or ruh? Is the spirit naffs or ruh.

AntiChristian:
Check this verse from Max above:

“Look! I see the heavens opened up and the Son of man standing at God’s right hand.” Act 7:56

The son of Man (i.e. Jesus) was standing....the father probably sitting was separate from your son of man and the holy Spirit must be somewhere else!

Mr Man that's metaphorical. It's Jewish way of expressing divine messianic claim. God has no hand not to talk of right hand. He's a spirit.
Stop forcing Quranic concept into the bible.
Someone standing on the right hand of God is a way of saying both has the same essence and nature.

AntiChristian:
Nope! Explain the drift!

A human being exist as an entity! The body and soul never separates except in death! And there's no difference between spirit and soul!

See Max's comment above, the writer of Acts said he saw Jesus standing at the right side of the father!

So who is giving us lamba here?

A being is an existence. Manifestation of that existence is a person.
A Human being is expected to manifest as one person. That's the expectation, though there are exceptions when ONE human being do manifest as more than one person...multiple persons in one body.

God is an existence that manifest in three persons. But HE'S ONE EXISTENCE; HE'S ONE BEING NOT THREE. GOD CAN ONLY BE SEEN AS ONE ENTITY NOT THREE ENTITIES. THERE'S ONLY ONE GOD NOT THREE.

Human being is a tripartite being. He's a spirit, has a soul and lives in a body. There's a difference between the soul and the spirit. That Muhammed doesn't know that is not the fault of the bible that clearly teaches the difference btw the 2.

Now back to my question, if I see u on a seat, who is sitting? Your body, soul or spirit.

AntiChristian:
Isaiah's Vision of the Lord in His Glory Isaiah 6:1-3
In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted; and the train of His robe filled the temple. Above Him stood seraphim, each having six wings: With two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying. And they were calling out to one another: “Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of Hosts; all the earth is full of His glory.”…

Who was on the throne?

Jesus, Yahweh, Holy Spirit or three in one!

If u sit on a chair, is it your body or soul or spirit sitting on the chair.

XAUBulls:
You know absolutely nothing about historical events here my bruv. I'm NOT here to engage in any religious rabble rousing here.

I've been on this for over 40 years of real studies on comparative religion before the rise of the Internet. I have tons of books in my home library on these facts that have been in the public domain for over 100 years. So I'm NOT just starting out. The Internet is also bringing out some of what some of us long read in books that were in the public domain for over 40 years now.

I would NOT have responded to you because you were quite rude instead of engaging in mature convo.
I checked your profile and decided to respond. Be open and engage in convos based on what you see and read.

Read this:
https://stellarhousepublishing.com/jesussunexcerpt/

https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Christ-Sun-God-Cosmology/dp/0835606961

Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmjQ1566ql0

Went through your video, same old lazy and superficial conspiracy wack theories.
That's why I said if we place u on scrutiny, u go drop. I'm not boasting.

Anyway let me help u debunk the myth of Horus and Jesus myth claim.


Claim: Horus was conceived by a virgin mother named Meri, and had a stepfather named Seb (Joseph)
Truth: Horus was NOT conceived of a virgin. In fact, mural and textual evidence from Egypt indicates Isis (there is no evidence that “Meri” was ever part of her name) hovered over the erect penis (she created) of Osiris to conceive Horus. While she may have been a virgin before the conception, she utilized Osiris’ penis to conceive. She later had another son with Osiris as well. There is no evidence of three wise men as part of the Horus story at all. Seb was actually the “earth god”; He was not Horus’ earthly father. Seb is not the equivalent of Joseph and, in most cases, Seb is described as Osiris’ father.

Claim: Horus was born in a cave, his birth announced by an angel, heralded by a star and attended by shepherds.
Truth: There is no reference to a cave or manger in the Egyptian birth story of Horus. In fact, none of these details are present in the ancient Egyptian stories of Horus. Horus was born in a swamp. His birth was not heralded by an angel. There was no star.

Claim: Horus attended a special rite of passage at the age of twelve and there is no data on the child from the age of 12 to 30.
Truth: There is no continuous effort in the Horus mythology to account for all these years, so there are no real gaps in the chronology. Horus never taught in any temple at twelve (as did Jesus).

Claim: Horus was baptized in a river at the age of 30, and his baptizer was later beheaded.
Truth: Horus was never baptized. While conspiracy theorists often point to “Anup the Baptizer” (claiming he was later beheaded), there is no such person in Horus’ story.


Claim: Horus had 12 disciples.
Truth: Horus had only four disciples (called ‘Heru-Shemsu’), but at some point in his story there is reference to sixteen followers and a group of unnumbered followers who join Horus in battle (called ‘mesnui’).

Claim: Horus performed miracles, exorcized demons, raised someone from the dead, and walked on water.
Truth: Horus certainly performed miracles (he was, after all, described as a god). But there was no mention of exorcizing demons, raising people from the dead or walking on water.

Claim: Horus was called “Iusa”, the “ever-becoming son” and the “Holy Child”.
Truth: No one in Egyptian history was ever called “Iusa” (the word does not exist) nor was anyone called “Holy Child”.

Claim: Horus delivered a “Sermon on the Mount”, and his followers recounted his sayings. He was transfigured on the Mount.
Truth: Horus never delivered a “Sermon on the Mount”, nor was he transfigured.

Claim: Horus was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and was resurrected.
Truth: Horus is not reported to have died at all in the vast majority of Egyptian narratives. There is also no crucifixion story. Instead, Horus is usually described as eventually merging with Re (the Sun god) after which he “dies” and is “reborn” every day as the sun rises. There is a parallel account describing Horus’ death and detailing how he was cast in pieces into the water, later fished out by a crocodile at Isis’ request.

Claim: Horus was called “Way”, “the Truth the Light”, “Messiah”, “God’s Anointed Son”, “Son of Man”, “Good Shepherd”, “Lamb of God”, “Word made flesh”, “Word of Truth”, “the KRST” or “Anointed One”.
Truth: None of these titles are in Egyptian history, but Horus is called by several names you might expect for any god in mythology: “Great God”, “Chief of the Powers”, “Master of Heaven”, and “Avenger of His Father”. Horus was not called “the Krst”. This word in Egyptian means “burial” (it wasn’t a title at all).

Claim: Horus was “the Fisher” and was associated with the Fish, Lamb and Lion.
Truth: Some of conspiracy theorists associate Horus with fish (by virtue of the fact that Horus was a fish in some portion of the ancient narrative), but there is no evidence Horus was ever called a “fisher” or was ever associated with the Lion or the Lamb.

Claim: Horus came to fulfill the Law, and was supposed to reign one thousand years.
Truth: There was no Egyptian “law” for Horus to fulfill, and there is no mention of a thousand year reign in Egyptian mythology.

https://coldcasechristianity.com/writings/is-jesus-simply-a-retelling-of-the-horus-myth/

https://strangenotions.com/horus-manure/

pinkyruledworld:
You made a quite number of statements but you are yet to answer my question. Let me know when you have an answer to my question. If you do not understand, read my pose again but slowly this time. Once you have an answer, then you should be fine yourself. Ire o

Mr Man, u simply hiding behind one finger. Come out and defend your Muhammed.
Variants of name are derived from etymology of languages. Language belong to an ethnic group not one man.
The Arabs already have a name for Jesus whom they call Yasu.
Muhammed isn't a tribe or a nation, he's one person and he speaks Arabic as his mother tongue. We want to know how he came about the name Isa for Yeoushua.
If nobody can explain, that means he made it up, and that says a lot about the book he supposedly got from Allah.

XAUBulls:
You know absolutely nothing about historical events here my bruv. I'm NOT here to engage in any religious rabble rousing here.

I've been on this for over 40 years of real studies on comparative religion before the rise of the Internet. I have tons of books in my home library on these facts that have been in the public domain for over 100 years. So I'm NOT just starting out. The Internet is also bringing out some of what some of us long read in books that were in the public domain for over 40 years now.

I would NOT have responded to you because you were quite rude instead of engaging in mature convo.
I checked your profile and decided to respond. Be open and engage in convos based on what you see and read.

Read this:
https://stellarhousepublishing.com/jesussunexcerpt/

https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Christ-Sun-God-Cosmology/dp/0835606961

Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmjQ1566ql0

Another conspiracy junk as usual. Some people must make money out of conspiracy enthusiasts. There's no end.
I'm not going to waste my time debunking your conspiracy wack theories.
I did so few weeks back with a guy called mindhacker here on nairaland. He brought a Jesus conspiracy video similar to yours.
He couldn't even defend the contents in the video he told me to watch....he was mixing up dates of actual events in history.
He couldn't back his claim with historical facts and eventually went silent when I brought mine.

Seriously it's not worth it, people should believe what makes them happy.
I just know that if I take u up on whatever u bring here, u won't survive the scrutiny. I'm 100% sure of that.
It doesn't matter the Methuselah years u ve been researching. It only meant you ve been looking in the wrong places.

pinkyruledworld:
Tell me who used the word "Jesu" to describe Jesus before Christianity was introduced to the yorubas. Baba, even the Jesus wey u dey talk, shey na him mama name am Jesus? All these are just variants. Fear what you dont know.

Jesu is a variant of Jesus which is the English name.
Jesus was derived from the Latin name Iesus.
Iesus was derived from the Greek name Ieosus.
Ieosus was derived from the original Hebrew name Yeoushua.
The Arabic name Yasu is derived from the original name of Jesus Christ. Yeoushua.

Now the big question is which ethnic tribe or group of people ever called Jesus Isa b4 Muhammed invented the name and started his tales of fabu.

pinkyruledworld:
...and you do not have your own opinion? While Yasu is also an Arabic variant, you seem to be eradicating the fact that Isa too is another variant. Some arab christians prefer Yasu more than Isa but it doesnt mean Isa is wrong.

Wait! Have you read the Quran or read the story or Isa and Maryam, I am sure you havent. Enlighten yourself

Stop the cap bro, no one used the word Isa until Muhammed entered the scene with his tales of fabu.
Show me anyone who used the word Isa for Jesus before advent of Islam.

XAUBulls:
These are spin-offs of the ancient pagan worship of the Sun God [Sol Invictus]. Know this and have everlasting peace.
The so-called 2 religions are knock-offs of the ancient worship of the sun and moon.

Paganism has indeed won the battle but most of the ignorant adherants don't know this. The clergy know these facts and this is why they don't want questions to be asked so that their schemes do not unravel. But fortunately, there are millions of enlightened folks too know these FACTS of history. Period.

If I take u on the nonsense u just vomited, u wont survive the scrutiny.
Go to religious section and see how your ignorant kinds have been demolished with facts upon facts.
Even the extremes of bible critics admit Jesus was a real historical figure.

THE INVERSE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN GROWTH OF ISLAM AND PEACE.

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving Minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 1.1%

Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 3 %
Italy -- Muslim 2.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%

Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 4.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.


For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims.
They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply.

This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%

Philippines -- 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions.

In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings, violent riots, looting, burning of non Muslims historic sites. Any non Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.
Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%

India -- Muslim 19.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%

Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

Nigeria 50% Muslim

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%

Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%

Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99..8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" -- the Islamic House of Peace.. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.


It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law.

The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death.

Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Dennisbulkan:
Your reasoning has flaws and is emotionally charged.
1) Are most individuals who commit religiously motivated killings Muslims?
2) Can you provide valid data to support your assertion?
3) What percentage of global annual homicides are linked to Islam?
4) Among the over 2 billion Muslims worldwide, what is the proportion of individuals labeled as "those who kill in the name of Islam" compared to the total Muslim population?
5) You mention that these individuals quote the Quran. If your education and knowledge are as extensive as you believe, have you considered verifying the specific Quranic verses these killers reference?
6) Perhaps you were not taught about the numerous instances in history where millions of people were killed in the name of Christianity. These acts were carried out by individuals who cited Bible verses to justify their actions.
7) Would you categorize the few Christian extremists from the tumultuous periods of Christianity as representative of all Christians, given that they were responsible for a significant number of deaths in the name of religion?
Approach this with an open mind and seek comprehensive education.

Muslims are the most fake people I've ever come across in all religions. U guys will deny the obvious as if the rest of us are blind.
Islam promotes violence, it's a well known fact. From middle east to Africa to Europe to asia. It's the same story of intolerance and hatred towards other minority religions.
Even Japan the newest country to open its hands towards Islam has received its own first dose of reality shock.
Just last week, Pakistani Muslims burnt down churches and Christian homes because someone claimed a Christian desicrated the Koran.
U here denying that islam abhors violence but when Deborah Samuel was killed, the chief imam of Abuja came out and publicly announced there are red lines in Islam that should not be crossed.

Your apologetics will go around lying Islam is a religion of peace just to win converts when in real fact, anywhere Islam thrives peace and freedom dies.
You guys are what Jesus call sepulchre. Read Matt 23.27 for the meaning.

okeysoninv:
atleast Ghana cedis is now stable. So ur jargons don't hold water, many nations has redominated there currency including Zimbabwe and Venezuela. And it worked for them. Not everything u guys will be criticizing. Many Nigeria workers are earning less than 20k since 2014 without correspondent increase in salary.

So u think if naira is redominated to like 1 dollar= 100 naira, someone earning 20k will continue to earn 20k.
Chei, so many economic illiterate in this country.
No wonder Tinubu won last yr election.
FYI, someone earning 20k will now earn 2k after decimalisation by removing one zero. Remove two zeros, his salary becomes 200 naira.

Truthday:
Jesus ran mad 😆😂😂😂😆😆😆

Well, if unclothedness means mad, then your prophet was equally mad because he removed his cloth in public and was stark naked in front of people of Mecca.

Truthday:
Christians themselves knows they're idol worshippers. Not even when they're found everywhere supporting idolatry in Yoruba land. Even if you try so hard to disprove your book. Will you disprove reality before our eyes ??

Christianity(Jesus worshippers) aren't different from Songo(6th Allafin of Oyo) worshippers.

Christianity is nothing but idol worshipping

But kissing a black stone isnt idol worshipping.
Praying facing Mecca and bowing towards mecca is not idol worshipping?
How's different from sango worshippers that bow to their Idols during

Any mandatory ritualistic routine u do during worship is paganism.
I should be able to pray to my God facing Lagos. If human relocates to mars, where would Muslim face when praying?

Naijaboy18:
Ignorant

When u travel to Mecca, remember to shout ignorant while kissing the black stone.
Also remember I said the practice is idolatry.

Naijaboy18:
Christianity is idolatry that’s why your more worried about criticizing the messenger than the message

But kissing the black stone isn't idolatry. Praying facing a black stone isn't idolatry.
How's that different from idol worshippers who face a graven image when pouring libations to their gods.
U guys are pagans. If u don't know, I'm telling u now.

FxMasterz:
You Muslims are ignorantly obsessed with the physical Jesus. The real Jesus of the Christians is the resurrected Jesus.

When did Jesus become King of Kings? After His resurrection. When did He become Lord of lords? After His resurrection. When did He become Saviour? After His resurrection.

The physical Jesus limited himself to the human limitation in order to fulfil his human mandate. He left behind, everything He had and represented while on earth, then, took them up again after His resurrection.

That's why, if you know the physical Jesus without knowing the resurrected Jesus, your knowledge is useless. The resurrected Jesus is the REAL Jesus. Those who know the Resurrected Jesus are eternally superior to those who merely know rhe physical Jesus!

That's how we know Jesus. That's why it is foolish of anyone to say Paul is unworthy of apostleship because he didn't meet the physical Jesus. That's nonesense. Even if you meet the physical Jesus, you must know Him in the spiritual to really know Him.

That's why, you can't know Jesus more than us. We have a relationship with the resurrected Jesus. That's the real Jesus. The physical Jesus was a mere 30yr humanly limited representation of the unlimited eternal Jesus who was, who is and is to come.

Well said. Nothing more.

So u said Torah is the word of God, Qur'an is the word of God, injil is the word of God.
Then how many word of God do we have? 3 or 1.

Cc AntiChristian

Kesteem:
this shows we have awoken from our slumber. How can Lagos a state owned by the Muslims, be runned in a way that detest Islam. you picked people and call them capable people, is it that Muslims does not have capable people in their own state?

Lagos is 60% Islam and it's an Islamic state. We can't keep allowing you people to dominate us and extinct us because thats their plan. Lagos is the only state that None indegens can come and claim indegen and become governors. We will no longer allow that because it has cause us more harm than good. Our people should wake up and refused to be subjugated.

Lagos state is a Muslim state and you cant dictate for us.

U should have voted for Gbadebo and safe us all this noise. At least he's a true lagosian.

Snapdrag0n:
International man indeed!
International man but you know nothing about soccer. Let me educate you.
Lets say Nigeria is developed like Saudi, or USA in the case of Ronaldo and Messi. Imagine bringing one of them to Nigerian club?
You don't watch or listen to Arabic news to see how fans are willing to buy tickets. Google the number of fans Al nassr of Saudi Arabia got compare with when Ronaldo joined. You'll think it's nothing because Nigerian politicians has brainwashed your head into poverty and borrowing from loan sharks.

The Saudis got oil, they got real estate, they got stable religion and tax, they got beautiful girls, they got nice weather, no racism, and they got money. Players are celebrities they need all these to trend. If you're abuse constantly like raciest in the case of mane won't you look for alternative? There's raciest in English league including your follow team mates not celebrating you like in the case of Man city.

No body watch Saudi league, that's a lie because your mentality in Africa is still the same even when you travel. We have many Arabs in Africa, Europe, Asia, middle East who don't miss watching. As I'm replying you now, I'm busy looking for a hospital in Saudi Arabia ready to invite me with good pay.
People poverty are not the same.

You don't know anything about Saudi Arabia

cococandy:
I’m not trying to make a point. I am making a point.
White Christian nationalists are just as terroristic as other terrorists. Maybe they are not setting up camera and slitting throats while chanting the name of God but they have no qualms about making sure other religions are suppressed. Even violently too if they have to.

America bombing Serbia is not a feature of this conversation because you are talking about America as a country not a religious body. White Christians nationalists are a subset of America. They do not represent all of America. (Although they would love to).

White Christian nationalists attack and persecute others for their religious beliefs. I think the reason why African Christians feel offended when these nationalists are talked about is because they imagine it’s their them and Christian mothers who are hustling for their own salvation and praying for their children that are being talked about. It’s way deeper than that. These people are not your brethren. They do not identify with you and an attack on them isn’t an attack on you.

Can u provide evidence where white Christian nationalist persecute other religions.

What's his crime

Now this is a real and valid case compared to that nonsense indictment in New york
Trump actually called the governor or the electoral officer in Georgia asking him to influence the 2020 presidential election in his favour. This was recorded on the phone and a strong piece of evidence.

If Trump no go jail, them his JuJu must be strong.

Cc nairalanda1

Nairaland number one armchair liberalisation economy champion.

So the question is when should govt intervene in their free fall economic agenda called liberalisation.
When fuel becomes 2000 naira per litre or when one dollar is 2000 naira.

God bless u as u answer.

Maynman:
So what did you say about papias and the word christian?

I asked u if papias was a Christian, where u got that I said he was the first to use the word Christian, I don't know.

nairalanda1:
All in all, at the end of the day, price controls that you are subtly advocating , never ever worked.

You won't let government set your price. So, stop complaining about rise in fuel price. It's called capitalism. It's not the best system in the world...but sadly people WANT TO BE PAID.

And here we are.

As usual another of your thoughtless theory economics that fails heavily when tested.
So long as we import fuel, there would always be pressure on the naira, and then the rebound effect on the price of fuel itself. And the merry go round continues.
So when do we stop, when do stop? When dollar becomes 2000 naira/dollar or fuel becomes 2000/litre.
Close to half of our import is fuel. Half of our Forex we earn goes into importing fuel. That's the reason the dollar keeps rising. And a rising dollar will need to inflation, higher cost of living and weak purchasing power for the people. Rampant inflation will force the CBN to raise interest rate to keep inflation in check leading to higher cost of borrowing. All these leads to poor economic outlook for the nation. This is not rocket science.
The only way out is to refine fuel domestically, that alone will crash the dollar by half its value in naira.

This present govt will eventually be forced to subsidise fuel again because there's a limit to what the people can take. Talking about putting the cart b4 the horse.

Now that we've established the historicity of Jesus and confirmed there were actually people called Christians in the first century.
I will be discussing evidence of the gospel manuscripts in the first century. We would be talking about the historicity of the gospel.

Maynman:
You said papias is the first to use the term christian, so how old was papias when nero blamed christians for the fire in rome?

Where did I say papias was the first to use the word Christian?