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Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 10:16pm On Sep 04, 2023
Maynman:
'Smoke don't arise from hot plate or gas when cooking unless na firewood" 😂 yahweh clown
So u use firewood to cook in your own kitchen. Ok let's call up your friend again.

Now let's see what this clown will say next.

People should just watch and see the next nonsense odour that will come out of his mouth.

Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 2:13pm On Sep 04, 2023
Maynman:
Smoke is not an object to be smelt, the smell of smoke arises from what is been Burnt.

My father does not require burning of dead meat, and if my father needs a sweet aroma, going to burn things won't be his option.

Don't bring my father into this, use Jupiter or Zeus.
If u cannot produce evidence for something, learn to drop it.
Learn some manners.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 2:00pm On Sep 04, 2023
Maynman:
If not for brainwashing that comes with worshipping dummy idols far away in middle east, this is simple enough.
The smell of smoke depends on what is burning.
Please don't bring my father into this.
Bring a verse where God smelled smoke and I will apologize for bringing your father into the discuss.

Otherwise u have to accept what is good for the goose is also good for gander.
If smell of smoke is good for my FATHER, I don't see why it should be terrible for yours.
Learn some manners.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 1:55pm On Sep 04, 2023
Maynman:
If not for brainwashing that comes with worshipping dummy idols far away in middle east, this is simple enough.
The smell of smoke depends on what is burning.
Please don't bring my father into this.
Smoke don't arise from hot plate or gas when cooking unless na firewood.
All the verses mentioned burning not cooking, this argument is stupid.😂, Smoke from the food what about the drink?

I didn't know your yahweh is just like us, mentally unstable thing.
Smoke doesn't arise when cooking? U will know the lazy ones who never cooked.
Can't believe I have to use your friend again.

MyMadame pls come and teach your lazy man friend how to cook b4 he suffers someone's daughter to death in the kitchen.

Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 1:23pm On Sep 04, 2023
Maynman:
It just shows what religion will make you defend, murder, genocide, rape, slavery etc.
Yahweh clown, he has reduce his god to himself that smells aroma like him 😂😂
If not for moral degeneracy that comes with godlessness. I wonder how someone can reason like u and insist the smoke from fire is something desirable.

Can u stand in front of your father and ask him to smell the smoke from the food u are cooking for him.
Can u ask him to come and perceive the smoke rising from the cooking pot.
But believes God should do that.
Bunch of mannerless creatures with cognitive dissonance.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15:
Aemmyjah:
That guy will never accept anything but rather bury his head in the sand
According to him, he only smell smoke and poop
Smoke can come from burning Tyres, plastics wood, animal or flesh, foodetc... What kind of smoke comes with a sweet smelling aroma?
All the smell he's known all his life is smoke and poop. You should not discuss further with him
I taya.
He wants to pin the argument that Jephthah killed his daughter on the fact that burnt offerings produce smoke which only comes from burning dead meat. That it's the smoke from the burnt offering that God wants to see.

Very illogical and not based on any sound biblical doctrine.
I've been begging him since yesterday to produce just one bible verse to support his argument. He couldn't, instead he's been posting encyclopedia, Google and stuffs from junk conspiracy website as evidence.
Yet he told me to ignore the expertise of a rabbinical theologian.

Something is wrong somewhere in that boy's brain.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 12:20pm On Sep 04, 2023
Maynman:
You don't inhale smoke, only smokers do that. When someone is smoking beside you, you smell the smoke automatically.
The aroma is as a result of burning.

If I am looking for a sweet aroma, why would my option be to go and burn dead animals why not buy incense or perfume so your god can smell it lol
Now that u agree I can perceive aroma of a cooked food without the smoke. Why then should I care about the smoke.

Why should God care about the smoke. What has the smoke got to do with the aroma.

God cares about the aroma and not the smoke.

Anything burnt will give smoke but not everything burnt will give good aroma. That's why God has stringent requirements about what was brought as offering. He wants the aroma from the sacrificial offering and not the smoke.

If u continue to argue about the smoke, then show me where God smelled the smoke and spoke about the smoke from the burnt offering. Otherwise I will simply ignore u.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 12:12pm On Sep 04, 2023
Maynman:
You don't inhale smoke, only smokers do that. When someone is smoking beside you, you smell the smoke automatically.
The aroma is as a result of burning.

If I am looking for a sweet aroma, why would my option be to go and burn dead animals why not buy incense or perfume so your god can smell it lol

No where did it mention burnt offering here which is olah.
this is a food sacrifice, one of the other types of korban
Lev 2.2
When anyone brings a grain offering to the Lord, their offering is to be of the finest flour. They are to pour olive oil on it, put incense on it 2 and take it to Aaron’s sons the priests. The priest shall take a handful of the flour and oil, together with all the incense, and burn this as a memorial[a] portion on the altar, a food offering, an aroma pleasing to the Lord.

Get this to your skull, olah ALWAYS mean Burnt sacrifice in context,Olah is just one of the Korban lol.
You just muddling things up.
Do God require only dead meat to have sweet smelling savour.
Do God only accept dead meat to have aroma as offering.

The root word of olah has already been thrashed, not going back to it.

Now look at u wrote and compare to the nonsense u arguing up there. Was there aroma from the burnt grain offering?
Cognitive dissonance at play.

Christianity EtcRe: ************************** by SIRTee15: 12:03pm On Sep 04, 2023
KnownUnknown:
Bla bla bla
Do some research, then come back and critic my post.
Happy to have your mention anytime T.
Christianity EtcRe: Spot The Real Jesus In The First Century: by SIRTee15: 11:35am On Sep 04, 2023
MindHacker9009:
God said to the Jews in Isaiah 49:6 "I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.”
U quoting from the book of Isaiah. I thought u said the old testament we have was written by the Romans.
So which one should we believe now🤷🤷🤷
Christianity EtcRe: Spot The Real Jesus In The First Century: by SIRTee15: 11:33am On Sep 04, 2023
MindHacker9009:
You are the one that lacks any form of critical thinking, which is the reason you've been brainwashed to just believe all the nonsense you have been brainwashed with. Your invented Jesus christ is not a black man so your delusion  is the real delusion.

God said to the Jews in Isaiah 49:6 "I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.”

If you can reason you will ask yourself how your invented jesus christ came to your location in Africa. I will tell you how because you have no brain to reason. You're invited jesus christ came to you in Africa because your invented jesus christ appeared in Rome 300 years after his fake ascension into the clouds to help a Roman emperor to fight his own civil war in Rome and the deal was that if he wins then your invented jesus christ becomes the official religion and that was why it was brought to you in Africa. Your invented jesus christ did not help his own people in AD 70 win their own war against the Romans but waited till 300 years later to help the Romans fight their own civil war in Rome. 

When you grow up we can have a mature discussion to expose your invented jesus christ, but for now you still have the mind of a kid that needs to be spoon fed.
U talk too much. Junks as usual.
Let's have the debate Yes or No
But start by replying to the historical evidence of Jesus I posted in your previous thread.
Christianity EtcRe: ************************** by SIRTee15: 11:31am On Sep 04, 2023
KnownUnknown:
Bla bla bla
🤷🤷🤷
It's what it is my friend. The truth with sound logic.

I'm yet to see any atheist or bible critic that can defeat this sound logic.😎😎😎😎😎
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 10:00am On Sep 04, 2023
Maynman:
The joke that a rabbi is Judaism, I wonder if a pope is Christianity.

Yahweh clown thinks everyone is a believer like him, because someone is a rabbi I just believe his word verbatim, as if I can't do my own learning.
Learning from where, Google, encyclopaedia....

Let's start from the basic, can u speak Hebrew, can u read the Masoretic Hebrew Bible?
What Judaism literature work have u ever written in your life.
So u want me to believe your junk above a rabbinical professor of theology who is also the vice president of a body consisting of over 1000 synagogues.

I'm sure at this stage u will agree with me u no well.
U need a mental assessment ASAP.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 9:48am On Sep 04, 2023
Maynman:
Your God is worthless Yahweh. Smoke goes up, smoke is a result of chemical reaction, the chemical reaction produce aroma.
Are u saying I must inhale smoke b4 perceiving aroma. Is that what u saying.

Maynman:
And i told you the sweet savor from all the verses you mentioned talked about BURNING DEAD MEAT

How many times will you get that to your skull?
I know say u need glasses, I just don't know how big it should be.

Lev 2.2
[i]When anyone brings a grain offering to the Lord, their offering is to be of the finest flour. They are to pour olive oil on it, put incense on it 2 and take it to Aaron’s sons the priests. The priest shall take a handful of the [b]flour and oil, together with all the incense, and burn this [/b]as a memorial[a] portion on the altar, a food offering, an aroma pleasing to the Lord.


Jephthah offered her daughter's chastity as a pleasing aroma to ascend into the Lord.
No fire, no smoke, no killing. 🫣🫣🫣😎😎😎
Christianity EtcRe: ************************** by SIRTee15: 8:51am On Sep 04, 2023
KnownUnknown:
No narrative that can change what’s written in the myth of the Hebrews about their god. Probably the most repulsive creature in all of literature.
U are a good person with sound moral conscience. That's why u disturbed by the genocides in the old testament, every good person should be disturbed. But the question is should God be disturbed?

When we cut down trees, clear forest to build our fancy houses, do u give regard to the feelings of the plant world.
When we slaughter animals at will, snuffing life out of them, do we care about the moral fibre of the animal kingdom. I'm not sure they are happy we humans slice their throat with a knife.
But we do it anyway. Why? because we not bound by the moral code of conduct of the plant or animal world. How they feel about what we do to them is none of our business.
We have our own rules for them and that's what we humans follow.

Same for God, he's not human. He's not made of matter, doesn't occupy space and cannot be measured by any physical dimension known to us including time. Thus, he's not bound to our own rules of moral code of conduct.

Death is a factor measured by time. It determines when we exit this world. For us, it's the end.
Death to God simply means separation of soul from the body. It doesn't mean the person stop existing. The person just transited from one realm of existential reality to another. Simple.
It's like moving someone from one house to another. How does that disturb God? Why should be troubled because a soul he created simply moved house.

We simply judge the genocides of the old testament with human prism of our physical reality and dimensions. God exist outside of it, he doesn't need to obey or follow it. God has his own rules for humans that determine his action on us.
Christianity EtcRe: The GOD Of The Old Testament Vs The god of the New Testament by SIRTee15: 8:33am On Sep 04, 2023
MindHacker9009:
The Old Testament we have today was written in Rome after the Roman empire destroyed the Temple in ad 70 and took the original Jewish Torah away to Rome from which they then rewrote the Old Testament we have today, this means we don't have the Original Torah True God gave to Moses.
Hmmm
So u deny the present old testament scriptures. The real Torah was taken away by the Romans. Sounds like some islamic dawah script- they also claim the real injil and Torah is lost.

But the question is what about the dead sea scrolls. They were written prior to the Roman invasion. Have u bothered to check them to know what the scripture looks like prio to Roman invasion.

Have u heard about the ketef hinomm scrolls. They are dated to the 6th to 7th BC and has fragments from the book of numbers.

What u doing is hiding behind one finger. Your assertion can't pass any scientific or theological scrutiny.
Christianity EtcRe: Spot The Real Jesus In The First Century: by SIRTee15: 7:44am On Sep 04, 2023
MindHacker9009:
Your evidence is baseless as you have no evidence from any eye witness account of your invented Jesus Christ.
Have u heard of the Didache manuscripts. Let's start from there.
Christianity EtcRe: Spot The Real Jesus In The First Century: by SIRTee15: 7:42am On Sep 04, 2023
MindHacker9009:
Your evidence is baseless as you have no evidence from any eye witness account of your invented Jesus Christ.
For you to believe that your pagan god mated with Mary, another man's wife to produce himself and then offer himself as a sacrifice on the cross to himself, shows how shallow and senseless your posts are.
Show me any verse in the scripture that validate any of the vomit u posted up there. Just one.

Or do u want us to go for another debate to debunk the stupidity u posted.
Are u ready for another intellectual debate?
I guess not....u will definitely run like a coward u are to open another senseless topic.
U lack any reasonable sound mind to defend your claim...all u do is parrot up and down what u've been brainwashed with. And since u lack any critical thinking to guide your thought process, u are bound to be a slave to them.

Imagine a black man from africa claiming to be a Jew. The delusion is real.
Christianity EtcRe: Spot The Real Jesus In The First Century: by SIRTee15:
MindHacker9009:
Someone who can use the brain God has given him/her will know they need to filter out the True God from the different God/gods in the Old Testament.
Go and respond to the historical Jesus evidence I gave u in the previous thread u created.
If u fail to do that, u are just an intellectual coward who runs away from defending his claims because they are shallow and senseless.
Yet goes up and down constituting nuisance by opening multiple meaningless threads about allegations that have been thoroughly debunked.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 2:03am On Sep 04, 2023
Maynman:
What is this man using to smell?


Smoke GOES UP
Then show me where God smelled smoke.

I already told u I can perceive aroma of a food cooking without inhaling smoke.
How many times should I spell it for u.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 2:01am On Sep 04, 2023
Maynman:
What does expert in judaism mean?

Is he more expert than midrash or talmud?
The joke is on u.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 1:45am On Sep 04, 2023
Maynman:
You are the one that lacks what diffusion means, I told you to explain what you mean by smoke AND aroma both spreading out.

What exactly is the screenshot for?
Is professor Jonathan mangonet as expert in Judaism?
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 1:43am On Sep 04, 2023
Maynman:
The content of all the verse you mentioned is burnt offering
All the verses you mentioned said burnt offering then after sweet savor.

Burning Smoke goes up always.

What you arguing is very stupid walai lol
Did God smelled smoke or aroma?
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 1:37am On Sep 04, 2023
Maynman:
what goes up is the smoke, the smoke contains the smell.
Do I need to smell smoke for me to perceive a food being cooked.
Alawada ...

Just go and find me one verse where God smelled smoke in the bible.

Otherwise call it a day. U lost this one already.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 1:32am On Sep 04, 2023
Maynman:
Rabbi means teacher, how is he "judaism"?
The joke is on you.
So your chemistry teacher who failed to teach u diffusion is a rabbi then...
Alawada...

Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 1:19am On Sep 04, 2023
Maynman:
How is he judaism?
Is he talmud? Midrash? Tanakh?
U asking a rabbi how he's Judaism?
The joke is on u.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15:
Maynman:
The verse talking about sweet smelling savor involved burning or do dead animals have sweet savor?

What goes up is smoke, smoke have smell.
Since u not making sense anymore, I will end it here by proving numerous verses of aroma.

Genesis 8.20-21
Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and, taking some of all the clean animals and clean birds, he sacrificed burnt offerings on it. The Lord smelled the pleasing aroma and said in his heart: “Never again will I curse the ground because of humans,

Lev1.9
You are to wash the internal organs and the legs with water, and the priest is to burn all of it on the altar. It is a burnt offering, a food offering, an aroma pleasing to the Lord.

And burnt offering doesn't need to be animal. It could be plants.

Lev 2.2
[i]When anyone brings a grain offering to the Lord, their offering is to be of the finest flour. They are to pour olive oil on it, put incense on it 2 and take it to Aaron’s sons the priests. The priest shall take a handful of the flour and oil, together with all the incense, and burn this as a memorial[a] portion on the altar, a food offering, an aroma pleasing to the Lord.

Now show me anywhere in the bible God smelled the smoke from burnt offering and declared it pleasing. Just one.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 1:03am On Sep 04, 2023
Maynman:
The verse talking about sweet smelling savor involved burning or do dead animals have sweet savor?

What goes up is smoke, smoke have smell.
U not making sense anymore. I dont need to see smoke or smell smoke to perceive aroma of a food being cooked.
If I can smell smoke, then the food is burnt/overcooked.
Aroma is different from smoke. Learn this fact.
Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 12:59am On Sep 04, 2023
Maynman:
How is he "judaism"?

https://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/8584-jephthah
This is prof rabbi mangonet

Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 12:33am On Sep 04, 2023
Maynman:
This not judiasm but an article
U gotta be kidding me.
Google prof rabbi Jonathan mangonet.

Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 11:46pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
Yes, your poo smells without burning it.
Olah means to ascend and the ascension is smoke that is going up.

Jepthat or whatever killed his daughter like moab did too.
The talmud and midrash further supports this clear thing
Is your own poo sweet smelling savour.


If what God requires was smoke, he wouldn't bother about what was burnt. so long as there's smoke he should be pleased. Shouldn't he?
Why would he insist on sweet smelling savour?

I don't do conspiracy theory and u know it.
Since we are going judaism tonight, then let me give u this...

Christianity EtcRe: Lessons From The Story Of Jephthah And Human Sacrifice. by SIRTee15: 11:22pm On Sep 03, 2023
Maynman:
You generate smoke through burning, I already told you don't need to cook to get aroma, but when you cook only steam and smoke GOES UP LITERALLY. You will see it go up.
So u can have aroma without smoke.
You don't need smoke or burnt offering to have aroma/sweet smelling savour.
Olah means to ascend.

Jephthah offered her daughter's chastity which is to ascend as an aroma unto God.
There was no burnt sacrifice.

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