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Maynman:So u use firewood to cook in your own kitchen. Ok let's call up your friend again. Now let's see what this clown will say next. People should just watch and see the next nonsense odour that will come out of his mouth.
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Maynman:If u cannot produce evidence for something, learn to drop it. Learn some manners. |
Maynman:Bring a verse where God smelled smoke and I will apologize for bringing your father into the discuss. Otherwise u have to accept what is good for the goose is also good for gander. If smell of smoke is good for my FATHER, I don't see why it should be terrible for yours. Learn some manners. |
Maynman:Smoke doesn't arise when cooking? U will know the lazy ones who never cooked. Can't believe I have to use your friend again. MyMadame pls come and teach your lazy man friend how to cook b4 he suffers someone's daughter to death in the kitchen.
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Maynman:If not for moral degeneracy that comes with godlessness. I wonder how someone can reason like u and insist the smoke from fire is something desirable. Can u stand in front of your father and ask him to smell the smoke from the food u are cooking for him. Can u ask him to come and perceive the smoke rising from the cooking pot. But believes God should do that. Bunch of mannerless creatures with cognitive dissonance. |
Aemmyjah:I taya. He wants to pin the argument that Jephthah killed his daughter on the fact that burnt offerings produce smoke which only comes from burning dead meat. That it's the smoke from the burnt offering that God wants to see. Very illogical and not based on any sound biblical doctrine. I've been begging him since yesterday to produce just one bible verse to support his argument. He couldn't, instead he's been posting encyclopedia, Google and stuffs from junk conspiracy website as evidence. Yet he told me to ignore the expertise of a rabbinical theologian. Something is wrong somewhere in that boy's brain. |
Maynman:Now that u agree I can perceive aroma of a cooked food without the smoke. Why then should I care about the smoke. Why should God care about the smoke. What has the smoke got to do with the aroma. God cares about the aroma and not the smoke. Anything burnt will give smoke but not everything burnt will give good aroma. That's why God has stringent requirements about what was brought as offering. He wants the aroma from the sacrificial offering and not the smoke. If u continue to argue about the smoke, then show me where God smelled the smoke and spoke about the smoke from the burnt offering. Otherwise I will simply ignore u. |
Maynman:You just muddling things up. Do God require only dead meat to have sweet smelling savour. Do God only accept dead meat to have aroma as offering. The root word of olah has already been thrashed, not going back to it. Now look at u wrote and compare to the nonsense u arguing up there. Was there aroma from the burnt grain offering? Cognitive dissonance at play.
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KnownUnknown:Do some research, then come back and critic my post. Happy to have your mention anytime T. |
MindHacker9009:U quoting from the book of Isaiah. I thought u said the old testament we have was written by the Romans. So which one should we believe now🤷🤷🤷 |
MindHacker9009:U talk too much. Junks as usual. Let's have the debate Yes or No But start by replying to the historical evidence of Jesus I posted in your previous thread. |
KnownUnknown:🤷🤷🤷 It's what it is my friend. The truth with sound logic. I'm yet to see any atheist or bible critic that can defeat this sound logic.😎😎😎😎😎 |
Maynman:Learning from where, Google, encyclopaedia.... Let's start from the basic, can u speak Hebrew, can u read the Masoretic Hebrew Bible? What Judaism literature work have u ever written in your life. So u want me to believe your junk above a rabbinical professor of theology who is also the vice president of a body consisting of over 1000 synagogues. I'm sure at this stage u will agree with me u no well. U need a mental assessment ASAP. |
Maynman:Are u saying I must inhale smoke b4 perceiving aroma. Is that what u saying. Maynman:I know say u need glasses, I just don't know how big it should be. Lev 2.2 [i]When anyone brings a grain offering to the Lord, their offering is to be of the finest flour. They are to pour olive oil on it, put incense on it 2 and take it to Aaron’s sons the priests. The priest shall take a handful of the [b]flour and oil, together with all the incense, and burn this [/b]as a memorial[a] portion on the altar, a food offering, an aroma pleasing to the Lord. Jephthah offered her daughter's chastity as a pleasing aroma to ascend into the Lord. No fire, no smoke, no killing. 🫣🫣🫣😎😎😎 |
KnownUnknown:U are a good person with sound moral conscience. That's why u disturbed by the genocides in the old testament, every good person should be disturbed. But the question is should God be disturbed? When we cut down trees, clear forest to build our fancy houses, do u give regard to the feelings of the plant world. When we slaughter animals at will, snuffing life out of them, do we care about the moral fibre of the animal kingdom. I'm not sure they are happy we humans slice their throat with a knife. But we do it anyway. Why? because we not bound by the moral code of conduct of the plant or animal world. How they feel about what we do to them is none of our business. We have our own rules for them and that's what we humans follow. Same for God, he's not human. He's not made of matter, doesn't occupy space and cannot be measured by any physical dimension known to us including time. Thus, he's not bound to our own rules of moral code of conduct. Death is a factor measured by time. It determines when we exit this world. For us, it's the end. Death to God simply means separation of soul from the body. It doesn't mean the person stop existing. The person just transited from one realm of existential reality to another. Simple. It's like moving someone from one house to another. How does that disturb God? Why should be troubled because a soul he created simply moved house. We simply judge the genocides of the old testament with human prism of our physical reality and dimensions. God exist outside of it, he doesn't need to obey or follow it. God has his own rules for humans that determine his action on us. |
MindHacker9009:Hmmm So u deny the present old testament scriptures. The real Torah was taken away by the Romans. Sounds like some islamic dawah script- they also claim the real injil and Torah is lost. But the question is what about the dead sea scrolls. They were written prior to the Roman invasion. Have u bothered to check them to know what the scripture looks like prio to Roman invasion. Have u heard about the ketef hinomm scrolls. They are dated to the 6th to 7th BC and has fragments from the book of numbers. What u doing is hiding behind one finger. Your assertion can't pass any scientific or theological scrutiny. |
MindHacker9009:Have u heard of the Didache manuscripts. Let's start from there. |
MindHacker9009:Show me any verse in the scripture that validate any of the vomit u posted up there. Just one. Or do u want us to go for another debate to debunk the stupidity u posted. Are u ready for another intellectual debate? I guess not....u will definitely run like a coward u are to open another senseless topic. U lack any reasonable sound mind to defend your claim...all u do is parrot up and down what u've been brainwashed with. And since u lack any critical thinking to guide your thought process, u are bound to be a slave to them. Imagine a black man from africa claiming to be a Jew. The delusion is real. |
MindHacker9009:Go and respond to the historical Jesus evidence I gave u in the previous thread u created. If u fail to do that, u are just an intellectual coward who runs away from defending his claims because they are shallow and senseless. Yet goes up and down constituting nuisance by opening multiple meaningless threads about allegations that have been thoroughly debunked. |
Maynman:Then show me where God smelled smoke. I already told u I can perceive aroma of a food cooking without inhaling smoke. How many times should I spell it for u. |
Maynman:The joke is on u. |
Maynman:Is professor Jonathan mangonet as expert in Judaism? |
Maynman:Did God smelled smoke or aroma? |
Maynman:Do I need to smell smoke for me to perceive a food being cooked. Alawada ... Just go and find me one verse where God smelled smoke in the bible. Otherwise call it a day. U lost this one already. |
Maynman:So your chemistry teacher who failed to teach u diffusion is a rabbi then... Alawada...
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Maynman:U asking a rabbi how he's Judaism? The joke is on u. |
Maynman:Since u not making sense anymore, I will end it here by proving numerous verses of aroma. Genesis 8.20-21 Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and, taking some of all the clean animals and clean birds, he sacrificed burnt offerings on it. The Lord smelled the pleasing aroma and said in his heart: “Never again will I curse the ground because of humans, Lev1.9 You are to wash the internal organs and the legs with water, and the priest is to burn all of it on the altar. It is a burnt offering, a food offering, an aroma pleasing to the Lord. And burnt offering doesn't need to be animal. It could be plants. Lev 2.2 [i]When anyone brings a grain offering to the Lord, their offering is to be of the finest flour. They are to pour olive oil on it, put incense on it 2 and take it to Aaron’s sons the priests. The priest shall take a handful of the flour and oil, together with all the incense, and burn this as a memorial[a] portion on the altar, a food offering, an aroma pleasing to the Lord. Now show me anywhere in the bible God smelled the smoke from burnt offering and declared it pleasing. Just one. |
Maynman:U not making sense anymore. I dont need to see smoke or smell smoke to perceive aroma of a food being cooked. If I can smell smoke, then the food is burnt/overcooked. Aroma is different from smoke. Learn this fact. |
Maynman:This is prof rabbi mangonet
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Maynman:U gotta be kidding me. Google prof rabbi Jonathan mangonet.
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Maynman:Is your own poo sweet smelling savour. If what God requires was smoke, he wouldn't bother about what was burnt. so long as there's smoke he should be pleased. Shouldn't he? Why would he insist on sweet smelling savour? I don't do conspiracy theory and u know it. Since we are going judaism tonight, then let me give u this...
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Maynman:So u can have aroma without smoke. You don't need smoke or burnt offering to have aroma/sweet smelling savour. Olah means to ascend. Jephthah offered her daughter's chastity which is to ascend as an aroma unto God. There was no burnt sacrifice. |
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