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luminouz:
Who is she to say all these stuffs at her age?

Surely she shouldn't be less than 40 na


N.B: Why does she still need a man then? Love Machine and flashlights don't outearn her or are internationally useless at chores na? Why does she still whale and hate ON MEN?

If she is not getting attention, she wouldn't be that delusional. On average, women understand social cues better than men. She'll get a few "valuable" ones who would worship the ground she walks on, and use others to "shine" as usual.

She is almost like that cûnt who shared screenshot of nairaland SIMPs who littered her DM. Miserable fools.

PrinxArthur1:
old hag

Even as a delusional old hag who is probably post wall, she is still red pilled as fuuûck.

Men may not see the game she is playing with that post. She is "hyping" her value for the next simp that will run after her.

Men should learn from her post. Yourself first!

Emotionss:
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Thanks.
Was soo carried away trying to make a brother see the light that I became a talkative. My bad.

Am out

You can keep articulating your point replying those whose response is not intended to troll, derail or mock your opinion. Once, you are respectful about your opinions and you are being disrespected, if you don't end it, you'll get sucked into the emotional, childish and insecure frame of the troll. Nothing gained. No message passed across. Just emotional-laden vitriol everywhere.

Save your energy and opinions for who is ready to listen whether they agree or not, as long as it is related to the title of the thread.

Emotionss:
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Oga no boxers and singlet we dey talk here.

When you reach de stage wey woman go close eye buy you plots of land or invest millions on your behalf with your name just to impress you then come and repeat this your statement.

E get MEN wey no de impress women. Na Women dey fight to impress them.

Chief, please know when to stop replying comments that are disrespectful as you may be be unknowingly encouraging silly acts that may end up getting this precious thread shut down. We can disagree respectfully but when name calling gets in, it may spell doom for the thread.

No one buys data for anyone here nor owes anybody the right to share in their view or what they think about the red pill. We are at different stages of life and most of what we drop when it comes to argument on contentious issues like this, is our subjective bias. No one has it all figured out.

It's necessary that we bring these issues up occasionally but some dudes lose their head, get emotional and childish about it. We can do better as men.

Just lay the facts that support your position and respectfully disagree. We move.

JESHAL:
Society doesn't give a fvck about Men
Most Simps and Betas don't give fvck about their fellow men, women don't give a fvck about men , at least in the ancient times of our ancestors we men died with pride and honor as a collective army fighting for Nations during wars , in peace time we had authority over our family ,now the redpill came to address these problem as we men are very diverse and are not bound by the same ideology as each other, we are all different , the harsh reality of us being the disposable sex from evolutionary perspective at least has changed significantly as we are not as Warfare driven like our ancestors, now our disposability comes from the globalized capitalist market where men have to compete with each other rather than in a destructive manner, we create and innovate to solve basic economical problems, most men don't rise and they become wage slaves to the capitalist elites and tax slaves to their government, the manosphere community is the hope for many men who are having problems in their daily social and Sexual life, be it lost boys, divorced men, Patriachs, MGTOWs, rather than breaking down each other like what i did in retrospect which was very wrong , we need to humble ourselves and deal with reality to the best of our ability even if we have different opinions whether fluid open minded adaptable like yourself or hardcore traditional conservatives like myself, we all still have many common grounds with regards to masculine issues, I know I'm very young and histrionic but I'm working on myself even though I make emotional outburst opinions when I find issues that I'm sensitive too and I disagree with, we are learning , the manosphere is the only space where we can share our , opinions,pains and burden among each other , even though it might be met by criticism among each other, at least we learn and grow, adapt and become tougher and prepared for the harshness of life which is our Biological imperative as we are always judged more harshly in society and expected to meet up to standards even if it is at the cost of our health and life


My own Patriachal point of view is personally my outlier approach to solve my masculine problem which some of you may share or not, but that's the way I want to navigate these tough mordern terrain , but I still remain open minded and flexible to learn

We are all on the same line. I'm replying, because your comments are respectful.

Where the little difference is the path you chose to tow. I have no problems with the path you chose though I'm not playing the saviour complex. SIMPs and women don't care about me, so, I take my own destiny in my hands free of what the society, women and big daddy government is expecting and trying to take from me. I'm saving myself.

Either way, our path would play a gradual role in sanitizing the system where women sit up and the government refuses interfering in marriage to the detriment of men.

luminouz:
Sure bro but just like the masturbation issue as well as other contentious topics on this thread, at the end, people resulted to name calling, abuses and downright nastiness. In the end, it seemes to me as if niggas just wanted to bare their opinions because no consensus was reached.

Everyone ultimately went their own way.

Na there e go end las las

We'll be alright.

Everybody dey show himself as tough masculine men but when endsars reach for protest, dem no show. Na feminist coalition dey organize protest for a cause wey be say na men be the main victims. Nigerian men can be funny ehnn. They don't know what has hit them, attacking other men when women are silently making their moves getting senate to pass Legislation favouring them.

In the end, we pick our choices and move on

DEMZEE:
All because u don't want to be Judged on ur burden of performance u are quitting the game lolzzz.... Wat a weakling!

MGTOW rubbish set of human beings.

Men must perform if not there are consequences for not performing. Men live in a fact based world.

I've not insulted you and it's good that you revealed your deeply-seated insecurity which has shown by you addressing other guys here who politely reply you as "LOW VALUE" and other tropes that reeks of a poor, weak frame.

Anyway, before I end my conversation with you, I've always seen you around comment sections that made front page trying to explain "red pill" to the female monikers and how they egg you on till you give them the cheap attention they seek. Please, try to reduce it so they can see you as the tough patriarch you claim to be. Telling them the game is a lame move.

Have a good day.

DEMZEE:
It's not about being tough

Do you base in Nigeria?

Yes, I am.

I'll keep my location private.

Emotionss:
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Finally someone that understands my point.

I pray for the day men will start seeing themselves as the ultimate price.

The sooner we men start realizing that the sole purpose of a woman existence is to please a man, the better for us

The truth is we are all saying the same thing but like I said earlier, the ego of men will always get in the way of things and in that quest to get it stroked, they turn themselves into willing slaves which is the reality of the modern dating scene.

Whether you are a patriarch, red pill, beta simp, as a man, you'll never escape the burden of performance. All men know this from early adulthood. So men, by nature take responsibility knowing that it's the only way they will be ranked in the society etc. There is nothing wrong chasing the role of a patriarch. Over the course of this thread, I have supported points that cater to patriarchy but I won't watch a man put himself at great risk of his life just to have his ego stroked.

Part of the reasons going my own way was that I never wanted to slave for women all in the tag of proving to anything to women. I live for me and anyone coming in, come on my own terms. This doesn't make me less masculine or less red pilled. I'm trying hard performing in my own way. No man need to be told to perform, it's known instinctively whether you decide to perform or not (that's your personal decision).

If she considers me as a prize and makes effort to prove it with her "loyalty" and "resources" on occasion, that doesn't make me less masculine in anyway. If she acts bad, she gets yanked off like a stranger, no two ways about it. as long as I'm on my own purpose and improving myself, there is nothing to worry about.

JESHAL:
I don't want to make these discussion a political one but these is the problem I have with liberalized men who want to escape from the natural ordered burden of performance that we men evolved to do, these Progressive men tried to alievate their burden in the delusion of curbing their masculine ego to have more humane standard of living for men, as we are always the disposable sex through out history and nothing will change these, our hope is to return in mental frame back to Patriachy where we can have order in society and at least we know and accept these painful and uncomfortable reality and not make the mistake of liberalized western men who have destroyed their Society and culture and further inflicted more burden on men with no authority as a conservatively Patriachal Society

You obviously don't understand the point I made in the comment you quoted outside the narrow-minded trope of your opinion. No disrespect intended. Just do you.

DEMZEE:
Sighs

This is the problem wen men become emasculated.

Men are not born with value, men create their value. Women are born with value

Burden of performance is not because of women alone, it's biological.

Masculinity is masculinity, don't feminize it

You are funny but it's okay. Just do you.

No issues, tough guy

Anyway your view not aligning with mine doesn't in anyway make me or those who share the same less masculine. There are levels to it.

BLOODYSPERM:
A man who avoids pain is not a man.

Anyway, chose your "pain" wisely. Some men take stupid decisions and play stupid games that has no relevance to their lives and uplifment calling it pain or being "manly".

Emotionss:
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You are missing the point.

What i am trying to say is that you can successfully date women that is more fainancally buoyant than you and still call the shorts.

Nobody is depending on any woman for survival.
I am a successful business man and I am in a stage in my life that women see me as the price instead of the other way

A lot of men might not understand your second paragraph because of the natural conditioning of men to be sole providers and the masculine ego fuelled by dominance, over centuries of existence as humans. In recent times, men are overreaching themselves and can not see themselves as worthy of a prize to a woman once in a while, outside being the work horse being rewarded with sex, food and a stroked ego which takes nothing and might mean nothing to a woman.

In the light of feminism and other pro-female bullcrap permeating modern culture from developed countries to lesser developed countries, this has created a niche for a small fraction of men throwing the vanity of that ego away and taking the game to women directly, playing the same game that women play on men while still calling the shots. It shows there are loopholes in societies where feminism has been influential and these men are making a killing of it.

Ubunja, has often hinted on it but I noticed folks struggle to understand him, as they are all caught up in the "trick" mentality. Emotionss you are on your own here. The ego of men are too big to make them see below the game. Just do you and take advantage of the benefits as long as you know the end game and your plan towards it.

sojfarm:
That is the question that Gumi needs to answer. But I am sure he be very reluctant.

Hell-Rufire has said it. They are proceeds of banditry paid ramsom with the patronage from federal, state government and high networth individuals.

Imagine the ones that have passed through without being caught.

This particular interception may also be a ruse to cover the ones that have passed through and to also look like the border patrols are working.

Weapons wey dey enter Nigeria like water.

Some fools are blaming shekau forgetting that they are ruled by ISIS, Alqaeda-linked elements in government.

If Boko Haram wants to end today, it will but as long as you are being ruled by these bloodthirsty terrorists, Nigeria can never know peace.

OnlyDeCapPlease:
First of all, compared to fellow G8 countries, US police is useless. They can't handle situations. Everything escalates with them, no restraint. Overfed egotistical emotional petty and unprofessional. Only special tactical teams appear to act professionally.

Secondly, there is a big difference between resisting arrest and just being "spooked". B!tch ass gammons using guns to compensate for the fact that they are not sufficiently endowed to satisfy their h.orny wives in bed

The United States of America have the shittiest police of the first world nations. Truly, they are overfed and stupid. That's why the US police is associated with junk foods (Doughnuts and Coke)

DEMZEE:
My wife wud make all the domestic decisions in the home. Decisions like food, cleaning etc.

Any income my wife makes is coming from me ie she's my employee and she's not a career woman.

For example, I'm a big business real estate company owner in my late 30s and I meet a lady who studied business law and she's in her early 20s,feminine and all that. She understands I have frame, game and I'm redpill aware from my actions. For me to marry her she's going to be my business lawyer and she will become a full time law business owner under me once she has had babies for me and they are well grown. That means I m her client and her employer and she's my employee

It's okay. Do what works for you. As long as you are the dominant partner whether fully or in a shared one, you are still on track. Good luck on your quest.

DEMZEE:
I understand u

In Nigeria here u don't need to be mega rich to get a feminine lady.

There's no such thing as hard patriarchy. Patriarchy is patriarchy!

Life isn't fair that's why men must try to have both game,frame and money. None is better alone than the others that's my point of view.

Contributing a fair share like buying food at home while the man takes care of the bigger share of the bills like rent, school fees etc doesn't make her less feminine either, especially for a woman who is earning income. It's called responsibility.

Well, each one to its own. My happiness about arguments like this is that the facts are laid out for anyone reading to pick what suits is preferential bias. We move.

luminouz:
If y'all gonna continue talking of this my wife should contribute or not, today...I wont kill myself but will commit suicide.


I don taya to dey talk. Dem use argument swear for una?

We are not mindless robots. In the end, everyman will do what aligns with his beliefs.

The argument here is related to the red-pill which the thread was created for. Men here should be allowed to bare their mind as it is a contentious issue among those who are purple-pilled. Folks can pick what aligns to their own belief even if they disagree with some. Those who are married and those who aren't are dropping gems based on facts, realities and even unrealistic fantasies. It's open for everyone to learn.

DEMZEE:
That's why I won't consider a masculine woman for a long term relationship

I'm the prize remember

Women are making money is none of my business, infact those ladies are invisible to me wen it comes to long term relationships but for fucking if they are hot why not...... Just touch and go lol

It's okay. Just do you.

At least you know what you are getting into.

I'll leave another point for you. For a good number of modern women, if you give them an environment of comfortability so much that they never earned it, contributed for or only got because of their looks, they'll resent you, use your money to cheat on you with a so-called LOW VALUE dude as you like to say.

You are projecting the values that men use in assessing each other, unto women. On a deeper level, women see wealth and status differently than men.

Saviolamemphix:
U have a valid point though but it seems u don't understand what we are saying. to me my wife must contribute but not more than me, that's my point though.. nobody lyks a liability but never allow ur wife contribute more than u in ur marriage, if its relationship its understandable but not marriage.

Saviolamemphix, it's the same thing Junnior and a few others are hinting on. There is no 50/50 equality in marriage. Anyone who believes that is very ignorant. One would exceed each other. In this case, it's my advise for men to take the highest share while the woman takes the a minimal portion to be "invested" except you are super-rich or being born into wealthy royalty where the woman doesn't even have to drop a kobo or do domestic duties (like a trophy wife) and won't also cheat as there are severe social consequences of she doing that.

DEMZEE is talking about total dominance - Hard Patriarchy which is highly impracticable in the 21st century except you are going to pick a wife from some pre-modern society in the amazon or some hyper-rural parts of Africa. Even to the woman, he is still a HIGH VALUE SLAVE trapped in the insecurity of his ego. With the modern woman already exposed to tropes of women liberation and feminism, it's a waste of valuable time and unnecessary accumulation of mental stress for a man to seek total domination of a woman. It's possible though but you have to work yourself flat out to be mega rich which is not entirely within your control.

Money makes a lot of thing easy for a man and men must strive to make it, though in reality, only a minimal percentage of men would make money to last his lifetime and death. There would always be rank and class among men. The basic thing for a man is to have his own space (SHELTER either yours or rented) and a means of earning income. If you are not there yet, strive to achieve this, from there, you can move into building bigger things within which time, chance and effort can afford you.

That said, I'll clear things up here being red pilled means putting your own needs first as an individual whether rich, managing or flat out broke. I see people talk about making money and self improvement (which is very good) but those are not exclusive to the red pill. Miserable blue pilled SIMPs can find the motivation (like every other men) to make money and self improve. There are a lot more of these types, than rich red pilled dudes. I've also seen super-broke young men who don't seem to chase money or even self-improve but put themselves first among their peers and in their relationship with women - the core of the red pill. To the surprise of some men who think they are high value because they are super-educated and wealthy, they see so-called "low lives" run their own space with beautiful submissive women at their beck and call. It's the same thing that happens when some folks see motor park touts getting wealthy and being influential in society and think because they have PhDs, they deserve to be rewarded more. The reality of life doesn't work that way.

Go for what you want and get it. Even though factors beyond your control may sometimes get in your way, at least you know that you tried. However, in what ever state you find yourself, try to be in control of what is within your limits (taking responsibility), try to get some influence among your peers and strive to get better. A man in charge of his life, space and pushing his needs regardless of what society thinks is HIGH VALUE.

emmaodet:
Thanks bro.
How is your side? How is life generally? You based in lagos?

You are welcome, Chief. Life has been fair to me.

I'm sorry but I'll prefer to keep my location private.

I hope you are good?

Ekg911:
That guy..slawormiir na scam. He promise to open a wechat account and I sent him 20k and he ran away

Good for you.

A sucker (mumu) is born every minute - PT Barnum

Scammer trying to scam another yahoo boy.

DEMZEE:
Maybe u plan to b a poor and average man in the future

Any man that allows his wife or wives to share financial responsibility with him is a low valued beta male.

Women are not built to handle masculine problems.

And yes my wife is my flight attendant, I m her pilot because a king can make a queen but a queen can't make a king.

She makes the domestic decisions in the home and I make the critical and important decisions in the home

Men lead
Women follow

The person you tagged is not poor nor average by Nigerian standards plus he is married. Life teaches us all.

I'm not a fan of permanently living with a woman and I have my own reasons for that from my personality to the unrealistic slavery standards set and the dangers lying in it for men in modern marriage. This is not to discourage others from marrying nor engaging with women in some form of permanent relationship. Just know what you are getting into and ways to minimize the risks.

The "hard" patriarchy (Full dominance of the husband or father-figure) which you advocate (I also observe same with young, idealistic red pill converts on this thread and other forum espousing this idea) is highly impracticable in the 21st century (where women rights and emancipation has swept the globe like wildfire from highly conservative societies to the liberal ones) unless you go to some pre-modern society to pick a woman who would wholly worship your feet. One that emmaodet is very aware of being married in this modern age.

DEMZEE, there is nothing beta about a woman contributing in marriage in this modern day. If you disagree, reality will teach you better. If you are meeting a woman in this age, you'll meet one with some form of education, or skill or even both. Where she lacks both, she probably has some exposure. Hard patriarchy was easy those days as survival was basic and at a subsistence level. Society was closed and women's hypergamy was highly restricted. There were consequences for a woman showing negative sides of her hypergamy, so she behaved herself and worshipped the man she was betrothed to.

Today, growing population of humans and economic unpredictability and other factors beyond the capacity of an individual is putting so much stress on men as sole provider. With women entering the work force on merit and feminist quotas, it gets even tougher for men. In reality, Only a very low percentage of men around the globe are able to wholly provide in life and in death. Men are increasingly getting their wives to bring in income to support the family system. A man who don't have that much resources to be able to wholly provide as a hard patriarch in the modern day reality is only a "suffer-head slave" and the more he makes his woman not to "invest" in the relationship will make it easier for the woman to move on, enjoying her "loot" knowing that there is no law even in modern conservative society that will "punish" her for leaving her man (the liberal ones would even "celebrate" her for being a "strong independent woman who knows her right" ).

For me, it is okay for men who seek to marry (or permanently cohabit with women) to do that to take the physical and psychological pressure that comes with a diminishing hard patriarchy and masculine ego in light of social and economic realities but make sure that they work hard to contribute the highest share of provisioning and leading with their partners in tow. I was raised by a dominant father who had that kind of arrangement with my mum. If my mum had not contributed in a way, she could leave at anytime without consequences as she has no "investment" worthy of securing in her relationship with my dad.

Firstnebo:
With that moniker at least

How far Skepticus?

I'm good, man.

I believe you are good too?

JESHAL:
You and Zabiboy sound like two irredeemable Simps disguising as Redpillers because you don't know the consequences of your Rationale as you discard the immutable Hypergamy tenets of the redpill the same mistake MrColdsweat made , you both are making, if you analyze the situation with a pragmatic lense divorcing your subjective feelings and apply real logic , your argument for men not to accept their burden of performance will destabilize Societies, just look at western Societies that women are treated like men in the name of equality, having now masculine authorities and responsibilities , see the destruction of the family unit as we have many lost boys and girls from single motherhood , putting yourself first doesn't mean neglecting your responsibility and allowing women to take charge

That's bullshit
Men lead
Women follow

emmaodet you are very fearful of the future and can't take risk to succeed in life for yourself much less for having a relationship and you are Rationalizing your incompetency with the Bible to hide the fact that you are a bloody coward and very weak soft man who will end up probably average because you are a sissy who thinks like a woman wanting his emotional priorities met and expecting society to give a fvck

Bloody weakling and fvcking coward
Very shameless feminized man same as Zabiboy , two of you are a disgrace and shame to manhood and masculinity, you both like MrColdsweat should be stripped of honor, you both don't deserve respect , two timid men wanting women to embrace masculinity and yet complaining about them and lamenting in the redpill community that men should put themselves first when Simps like you will give women authority and responsiblity so you lazy motherfvckers would live an average life and allow women to have power over men and Society

Nonsense

JESHAL, this is grossly disrespectful to the two individuals you mentioned and other active and silent members following and maintaining this thread. You can pass your comments without attacking and insulting the next man. If you don't agree with them, keep your opinions to yourself or express what you feel about it without the need to insult which is your own insecurity (which makes you also, weak) playing out.

If this thread had started on the background of every guy acting tough (a sign of insecurity and psychological inferiority), bullying other males, or all those silly dick-size contests typical of male spaces, this thread wouldn't have existed long enough for you to come here to blatantly disrespect other men. No one feeds anyone here or buys data for anyone to comment. You drop your opinion (must be related to the title of the thread, which is the red pill) and move on. Some may agree, others may not agree and some may feel the need to modify your wise opinion. Men have little support system in real life. You, emmaodet and Zabiboy agree on a lot than the very few, which you all disagree on. This is normal. We don't have to make it tougher for ourselves.

Kriss216:
I'm surprised how a sane person will use his korokoro eyes go wife a continental olosho. It's beyond my understanding!

It is obvious that you underestimate the delusion and desperation of SIMPs (Broke or Rich).

Fake "surgery-enhanced" babe wey Burna Boy and some other dudes don chop tire.

Forget, this is what you get when a career hoe meets a hopeless but rich simp trying to get status.

ikillbrokegirls:
How bout this?

"Strong women don't have attitudes, they have standards" just illustrated what has been said several times here, about most women being naturally red pilled (at the basics). Majid saying this is clearly promoting simp ideas. I only judge men's simping in what they do in their personal lives because I have observed that men with fame, money and social status are under great pressure to conform to the blue pill fantasy of modern liberalism so as not to lose their source of livelihood. Some actually simp and some fake it while being red pilled in their personal lives. Only a few like Donald Trump can go vocal about it. Even then, it affected his re-election as a second term president.

okrikaboi:
Bestie for life

Dude looks pitiful in a funny and awkward way.

Anyway, there are either 2 scenarios, possibly, playing out here:

He might be truly a SIMP being her emotional tampon and friend-zoned confidante for the "29" years. He probably has never seen her panties or maybe seen it a few times.

OR

He is banging her steady all the while for less or nothing while masquerading as a "bestie". In this case, I pity the fool who has sold his commitment to her.

Some of these memes are too heavy for the average red pilled dude.

"Taking a detour" like the MGTOW symbol says is on another level of masculine discipline!

Harrynight:



After 6 years na naw una come see am push to FP

The OP sef isn't active on NL anymore.

sharpwriter:
Lol... Bros, you dey resilient o. Thanks to God that you are still here in 2021. So how far about the search?

I'm curious too.