₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkie:
Point 1.  in the USA, CCTV in public areas is manned by police. Every other security outfit there that is privately manned can only function on private property, AKA may-guard, who by the way also carry guns in Nigeria. The government DOES NOT source the security of the people to private entities. Can we please get facts Straight.

Point 2. Lagos State Governor is not going to be directly involved in buying or maintaining the CCTVS. Turns out the government is only announcing to people that they need to start installing and maintaining CCTVS on their properties for their own sakes. So, this is not really Fashola accomplishing anything order than telling the citizens and companies that maybe CCTV could serve as upgrade to burglary-proof doors and windows. So all dreams of the WONDERS OF CCTV may as well be put in the same folder as those that belong to BURGLARY-PROOFING windows and doors or even using Juju to man the doors till further information is obtained on the issue as to exactly what part the privately owned and installed CCTVS will help government.

You got that from the response of the online chat? Seems quite speculative cos i got something different. The mention of a data base shows it is probably more than advertising CCTV sales. It also said not all funds will be provided by government, suggesting government will provide some funds and hence have some sort of investment in the scheme. What i got from the response was simply a system whereby comapnies are encouraged to invest in CCTV, government links these cctvs to a database.

I wouldn't really laugh at the thought of looking back at this thread at all, seems a bit heartless to laugh at hope. However this thread is an edifice to dreams without actions to realise such. Like seems to hwappen every other day in Nigeria anyway.

Sapphic:
Nigeria is most definitely NOT a secular country. How could it be with the proliferation of religion (evidenced by ubiquitos churches and mosques) everywhere.

*sigh*. I don't know why people keep arguing with that line. Doesn't america also have churches everywhere? The Nigerian state has a secular constitution.

ohaechesi:
Well, i'm not against woman protesting for their right in their various matrimonial homes. what i'm against is how they will go about it if eventually their request is granted. In the western world today, African men are facing hard time in the hands of their wives for the sake of so called right. We are not use to those laws that could make life unbearable for men. therefore, i suggest that women should revert to better behavior in their matrimonial homes than looking for compensaction

Really go through what you just posted please. Are you willing to stand by what you just wrote even if it reveals a seeming leaning on your path towards male chauvinism?

Chrisbenogor:
The only way to curb this menance is to scrap every religion from the constitution, no constitution should be based on any religion.

And what religion is the Nigerian contitution currently based on? LOL. Funny.

Can we afford to have a non-funtioning leadership on the national scale? Can you imagine the thought of sliding into debt again after just a few years of being pardoned the last one? The fact that such a premise can be possible is food for thought with regards to leadership direction in the country, especially when these debts don't have much to show for it in terms of spent funds on capital projects, etc.

Nigeria: External Debt Hits 4 Billion Dollars - Presidency

Abuja — The federal government has expressed fears over the current position of the country's external debt stock which according to its estimate has risen to $3.76bn US dollars.

The special adviser to the president on parastatals, statutory bodies and inter-governmental affairs, Mr. Braeyi Ekiye, disclosed this Friday in Abuja when he paid a familiarisation visit to the Debt Management Office.

While commending the management of the Debt Management Office for consolidating on the sustainability of the nation's debt profile following its successful exit from the Paris and London clubs of creditors in 2005, Mr. Ekiye said the DMO is a critical agency in the realisation of the president's seven-point agenda.

The special adviser added that the current position of the nation's external debt stock, if not checked appropriately, might relapse into another debilitating debt overhang that the nation experienced a few years back.

The director-general of the Debt Management Office, Dr. Abraham Nwankwo, while thanking the special adviser for the visit, stressed that the vision of the DMO was to manage Nigeria's debt as an asset for growth, development and poverty reduction.

He said the DMO in conjunction with the Federal Ministry of Finance had developed borrowing guidelines aimed at providing the framework for effective, prudent and healthy management of public debts to achieve the overall objectives of government's macro-economic policy.

Dr. Nwankwo allayed fears on the current state of the nation's external debt stock, pointing out that it is still within manageable and health levels as much of the debt stock were borrowed from multilateral organisations which are in the concessional windows of some international financial institutions.

He said DMO had developed a template for the establishment of debt management departments in all the states of the federation, adding that to ensure effective public debt management at the state level, developmental efforts at that level must grow in tandem with the federal level.

"Procurement of debts, especially from the domestic market, was not bad; what is critical is the application of such funds which should be put into the real sectors like agriculture, education, power, infrastructure, health, etc to grow the economy," he said.
http://allafrica.com/stories/200901190629.html

Tsiya:
Ah Sisi, we want more of BBC in Nigeria. If CNN can have a base in Nigeria and be reporting Nigerian problems it is a blessing.

Dont you know that the only source of News in the north is BBC and VOA. When I was a kid, I thought BBC was the Radios name, because it only during BBC that my dad put on the Radio.

@Sky blue

Law enforcement and discipline is not possible without empowment. A lot of ppl need to be educated, and also be economically empowed. We have a long away to go get to ur ideal state.

Empowerment in what sense? Sorry, but i will have to disagree again. What is lacking is the will to do so. Doesn't the president also commander in chief of the armed forces have enough power as it is? Don't govenors and senators and ministers have power to make sure law enforcement andis enshrined? Don't the judiciary have any power anymore? Aren't all these groups of people constituionally empowered enough as it is? I hope you are not confusing empowerment with the moral will and courage to do what is right. The people have the power to change things they just don't seem to know this. A leader with the will to change this, coupled with a team of ministers and a senate all with the will to develop Nigeria might astound you with what they would achieve in a short time. Hence why there will be no significant democratic and political growth without free and fair elections.

Tsiya:
Well, ur American example is different from Nigerian case. The Nigerian Courts did not interprete our constitution along your line of reasoning. If I can remember during the Sharia crisis, the Nigerian supreme court refuse to interprete our constitution in that respect. The held the view that Nigeria is a multi-religious state, which does not give preference to each religion, but give every religion freedom. That is why every legislation that have thorny customary/religious issues have to passed at state level.

Sounds like the traits of a secular constitution to me.

Tsiya:
Well, in every situation u will have different opinions. My own opinion may differ from yours and it may not necessarily be right. However, base on my observation and understanding, one of the major problem dragging us back is our religious differences, not necessarily tribal. When Obasanjo was the President of Nigeria, many people from the north, particularly those with Islamic affiliation are not happy. Not because he is not a northerner, but because he just doesnt share the same religious believe with him. And to balance the systems, his VP have to be a muslim, this have nothing to do with merit.

Note with Yar'adua as President, even though he is not performing, but when he was choosing to be the PDP candidate those that oppose him, virtually are doing that because of the religion difference. And he has to have a Christain VP to balance the system. It has nothing to do with religion. All federal govt appointments goes along the same line.

However, ethnic difference also plays importan role.

Ppl run behind their religion, and ethinicity and take cover whenever they accused of corruption,

Well, sometimes it is even difficult to understand our problem

I find it hard to see this as a mutual thing though especially when you read of "pastors" going to aso rock to meet with yar adua, praying for yar adua to succeed, etc. Or is that all staged? Surely the problem has to be a bit more than such a simplistic take on it. If Nigeria was working better and there were available jobs, a diverse economy, growth in the different sectors and general progress, do you think such behaviour will be rampant? Since when did some disgruntled elements begin to speak for the whole north? You think people on the street really care about such if there was progress? I might have an old fashioned leaning on this case because i will maintain that such a system exist because it has been allowed to happen. Solid law enforcement and discipline might go a longer way than you think on a lot of the problems you advocate to be "complex".

What is the problem with african leaders and relinquishing power? The most sensible thing to do is to hand over to the vice president if he (the president) is indisposed and unable to perform his duties effectively. What is the problem here? When we die we take nothing with us, hence i don't understand what is so important about doing nothing but staying on anyway if the stress might even be affecting your health. Is he not killing himself? As long as nothing fundamental changes, it seems whatever happens we lose. Is the vice president really going to be any different in terms of performance?

Tsiya:
Well, that is American constitution. Nigerian constitution is different. Nigerian constitution does not separate state with culture. It recognizes the importance of our culture and that is why it is included in the constitution.
All what you have to do, is to study the Nigerian problem. It relatively boils down to religion differences rather than ethnic differences. If you just look at the way churches and mosques are sprining up in every nook and cranny in the country, then u will understand some of what I mean. The church and mosques are competing for followers within the same religion. And then some issues between the Christain and the Muslims. If u take the Jos crises, it hav nothing to do with settlers and indegines, everything there boils down to religious difference.

It is because of the competition between these 2 religions that the questioneer asking for religion affiliation was not included in the National cencus.

I brought up America as an example to dispel conclusion that recognising religion equates to non secularity and i brought up the issue of seperation of church and state in order to address it incase you brought that up as prrof of seculiarity being equivalent to not recognising religious affiliations. You are yet to explain how recognising religion of culture equates to non secularity.

Permit me also to address you premise of the problems of Nigeria boiling down to "competition" of the sort you mention, do you actually buy that?

Tsiya:
Yeh, just search the Internet for Nigerian constitution, u will get it and check under the judiciary you will see we have Sharia courts and Customary courts. Customary courts are common in the south, particularly in the western part of the nation. And the sharia courts are common in the north. Reason for that is to provide easy means of arbitration of disbutes within our Nigerian customs, without the complexity associated with the common law (english law, which is alien to our cultures) These courts have bn part of the Nigerian constition even b4 independence.

Nigeria is not a secular state. Our constitution does not define Nigeria as a secular state. It is a state that recognizes religion, but does not give religion preferences. Afterall, when u look at some torny religious issues, both of the 2 religions share the same opinion. For example, like adultery, fornication, murder, homosexuality.

Anyway, I just feel sometimes, it is because of religion competition that is why we have some of these issues in Nigeria.

Recognising religion does not equate to non secularity. Does the American constitution not recognise religion also? Seperation of church from state does not mean the american constitution does not recognise religion, does it?

Sharia law should never have been introduced period. Nigeria is a secular state, how on earth can you then have one law for the rest of the country and another for some? @B.O.S.S. if you doubt the popularity of sharia law in some northern states just try banning it and see what happens. Wasn't there and earlier attempt to do so?

[quote author=B.O.S.S. link=topic=221314.msg3362695#msg3362695 date=1232399407]I know the introduction of Sharia and all generated a lot of buzz in the northern states and I'm also aware that there was up to 2million people that gathered at the governor's office to show their support however, I cannot put it past our politicians to actually support these people secretly in other to generate that publicity for their own use, we've all heart it before, I think it's known as erm " rent a crowd".

I'll not put it past them renting a crowd of "2 million Nigerian poverty stricken, incapacitated and conjured citizens", would you?[/quote]So are you trying to suggest sharia does not enjoy the ammount of popular support i am led to believe it does in some northern states?

Well, on the other hand the people were rejoicing when sharia law was enacted. A cheap political move to placate a people who might have been disgruntled at all the looting that was going on, hence enact sharia law and you win popularity by a lot of people. So much for wanting to be like saudi arabia. As long as the sharia laws are only applied to mus'lims as stated in the article. If sharia was infact wholeheartedly embraced and encouraged in a secular nation by the indegenes of a state (might not have been a consensus) then those who embraced it might as well get used to it. Its like boiling water to drink then complaining its hot.

McKren:
I don't like to spend much time reading what IBB says cos I know he belongs to the past, he will not rule Nigeria no matter how he tries. I am not God but I do know the difference between Military coup and rigging elections. The only way IBB can come back to power is through a coup which I dont see happening. Apart from that I dont see how IBB becomes President through the ballot. Rigging or no rigging.


On the issue of constitutional amendment, I dont see the need for wholistic constitutional ammendment when there are loads of areas in the constitution that is yet to be implemented.

Besides that our NASS as it is constituted is not ready to do anything, think of it, what is more secular than FOI Bill. This NASS assembly is yet to pass it into law. I also think this whole support by the Presidency for constitutional ammendment is a bit dodgy, it makes me wonder whether someone is trying to purchase popularity on the cheap while behind the scenes pulling some structural strings that ensures the process fails.

Think of it, once upon a time the President is for FOI bill, the next time he is for removal of immunity clause, now it is constitutional ammendment. None has been achieved and non will be achieved.

Yar'adua should cut down his 7point agenda to 1. Which is our next election should be close to being fair, right now most Nigerians are just sitting and waiting him out.

My sentiments exactly

Big B1:
Don't be stupid!
Don't you know that the destiny of the next president relies on the current president? We've been informed many times by IBB, himself that Yaradua is like a brother to him. Does it make sense for one brother to pull the other one up?
Mark it down with a permanent marker "the possibility of the next president of Nigeria to be IBB is greater than ever".
He's bright, he has the stamina, the respect and the wisdom to quickly turn thing around positively.

Time will tell.

If you hold a referendum on "who has respect for IBB" what percentage of the population of Nigeria do you think will be on the 'respecting' side?
The possibility of IBB being next president is greater now than ever? Do you mean gaining power by a democratically held election or by a coup? Talk about forcing one's self on someone who is not interested? The equivalent of a rape on democracy. How many times do the people have to say they don't want?

Tsiya:
BBC have the moral right to report any news about Nigeria, and Northern Nigeria in particular. BBC hausa programme is the main source of our news in the north, and hence reporting this news is infact, suppose to be their headline.

Hisbah are registered as private unarmed security organization with the Nigerian Civil Defence and the police. It is like any other Security organizations such as Dimond, Niger Guards and the other vigilantes approved by the government either to provide private security (as in the case of banks), community security (like vigilantees). Hence they have the constitutional right to perform their duty, as enshrined by Kano state laws, and approved by the Nigerian Police, within the boundaries set by the Nigerian constitution

Sorry but I am going to have to seriously call you out on this. Since when did hisbah become constitutionally empowered to do the job of the police if warranted (which is not the case here)? This is like saying that private security guard or MOPOL are constituionally enshrined to conduct traffic light or charge traffic tickets. Absolutely ridiculous and I don't buy it.

[quote author=B.O.S.S. link=topic=221314.msg3362524#msg3362524 date=1232395667]I think I'll have to agree with SkyBlue here and that is focussing more on the plights of these women. I think these women should have their right and that's the message BBC is trying to highlight. So I think BBC have done a good job in exposing the inequality suffered by women in some parts of Nigeria.

Don't you think - KoboJunkie?[/quote]LOL, Kobo was being sarcastic. _{Kobo you sarcasm needs some serious work}

Forgetting the fact that it is IBB for a sec and how annoying it is yada yada, although certain areas of the constitution fundamentally need changing for sure, it will all result to nothing if law enforcement isn't enshrined and hence the "testing" of the constituion. Blaming the woes of Nigeria on the constitution is a tad cowardly considering that there are laws against stealing etc, yet these laws are not enforced when it comes to highly placed public holders. So who do we blame for that? Law enforcement or the constitution? Yes the constitution has areas that definately need to be addresed (e.g. the public secret act which is the anthesis to the freedom of information bill) but are we not letting the judiciary off too easily?

Since when did the hisbah become a constitutionally enshrined law enforcement agency? How long will this silly indulgence last?

Kobojunkie:
I did find his response to the CCTV question rather interesting though. No mention of training personnel to monitor the Cameras; or liaising with police to ensure the feed actually used directly to catch criminals, or the funding coming from donations. I almost get the sense that it is an effort geared towards having more private entities with CCTVs installed, in the State. Have more mom and pop stores install CCTVS, manage the cameras themselves but allow the state access the cameras for data when needed. No mention of a need to install them in public areas or the likes, like many seem to propose would be the case. Not necessarily the GRAND plan explained to me by one of the other guys I debated that issue with sometime this week.

Well, london which is probably the most cctved city (central london anyway) on the planet has a significant ammount of cameras belonging to private businesses also as well as public cameras. So the effect could still be achieved to an extent even with this scheme.

Kobojunkie:
I know when you logged on @Skyblue. You came in when the question session already started. Sorry, you missed the A** kissing portion of the whole which lasted at least 15 minutes. Please stop already!! I was right in front of my monitor when you showed up! the FOI questio you keep referring to was posted about 45 miinutes after it was asked, about 20 or so minutes after the a** kissing ceremony had ended.

LOL. Fine, there was butt kissing, do we now have a consensus? LOL.

Kobojunkie:
You SERIOUSLY have absolutely no clue what I am refering to here as a** Kissing ceremony, do you ? Roflmao!!!

Please ask before you LEAP to feel you need to pound me with excuses! Like I said earlier you came in 30 minutes to the end and probably missed the a** kissing ceremony!! Jeeezz!!

Actually i did not miss all of it, i did get a glimpse of some. A question before your FOI question was not actually a question but just a praise. Was it expected on my path? Absolutely. And i don't feel i have "pounded" on you with excuses as i have said over and over again it was badly organised and some questions that were presented did not get properly addressed. Ironically i have touched on this in the post you just quoted so i won't again. I guess you won't be satisfied till i call the whole event an absolute disgrace and sham but sorry, i don't think it was. I think it was terribly organised and the environment and setting lent itself to an easy dodging of questions (if they did get asked in the first place). I think the responses that were more detailed and touched on were well argued and showed that actions carried out by the government were not just done blindly (especially the oshodi response and cctv).

Kobojunkie:
You seem to be in the mood to offer up as many excuses as you think is needed to sort of calm me down but it ain't working.

About the FOI bill, it is no secret that it is possible for states to sign such into law but my question for geared more to getting him COMMIT to ensuring it passes and we get his support in pushing it. If you learned anything from what has happened to that bill since Obasanjo's time, you would understand the need to get that man COMMIT so that we can use it against him should he waver on his promise to do so.

His one line only tells that there is nothing against such a bill like that in the state just as there is nothing against free health care in the lagos constitution. Every body knows this but we also know that does not mean it is all going to be done. Now, in a couple of days, I expect to get answers posted on that site to my question; researched answers as expected from a politician. That may help but there is still nothing as good as getting direct, raw answers to questions when asked.

Now for your choosing the blame the media and the company, I am not sure if you know that the onus is on the government here to ensure the companies picked are adequately able to handle the job need. But then again, I don't think this is move you much.

*sigh* fine, sure, i am done with this LOL.
As posted earlier, i said during the whole event that i hoped your questions got answered because they touched on good solid issues that could hence incite more detailed and comprehensive answers and yes i totally agree with the whole issue of asking about the FOI thing as a means of getting the govenor to commit to the issue. However you might be falling into the trap of labelling thise who do not agree with you as butt kissers. I really don't know what the beef is. I thought the response to the FOI question was completely inadequate as i just said in the previous post. That response alone revealed that sich an important bill was not even in the cards or in consideration on the govenor's path and i have been advocating and following that bill for quite a while now.

Why don't you go back to the first posts, did i not predict that this will not be what people were probably expecting hence why i was not initially going to join? We are speaking of Nigeria whereby government is surrounded by yes men in the media also. If the web chat agenda was a serious one it should have been a strictly web chat affair because then there is less chance to 'dodge' questions and then you can have a more confrontational and revealing discourse. It is so easy in a press conference to brush over issues and this was a press conference not a somewhat interview scenario which a proper web chat with people would have been closer to. How many times have i posted that it was badly organised? Instead you are taking foresight on my path to mean i am willing to offer up excuses or defend blindly or something of the sort. A tad irritating considering i have just been joking a bit since i found the whole affair a bit unserious. I really don't care who or not has beef with the govenor as i also wanted answers to questions an issues i had but did not get responses either, for crying out loud Fashola is not my uncle but ok, i see you are frustrated you did not get responded to, so i will leave you to it, have a nice day 

Kobojunkie:
Oh please stop already!! You were only there for like the last 30 minutes. And do you know I did not question it? How much of what I posted or asked can you claim to have seen in there? Go Back a page, read the original question and then compare it with what the man saw to answer with that one line. Jeezzzz !!!! Stop already ! roflmao!

LOOOL. Guy chill, it seems this stuff really got to you. It is not my fault you woke up early in the morning only to get one line response to one of your questions out of many. But on a serious note i thought you saw the response to the FOI thing. I thought it was really short and inadequate, but the FOI thing did get touched on so we know it can be pursued in Lagos question is wether the government has a will to do so. I just find your frustration at the whole thing very very amusng, perhaps because i did not think so much of the web side of things cos it looked badly organised, i mean when was it announced and who are the company or media group that were coordinating it? The guy who was typing out responses kept on fumbling with spelling errors, come on LOL. No need to direct any frustration at me

Kobojunkie:
@Skyblue, I am only ashamed that I had to be SUBJECTED to all that in the name of chatting with the governor in a "DEMOCRATIC" Lagos state. Sure I did log off and on a couple of times during that to spare myself some of that a** kissing but knowing how things work online sometimes, I had to endure some portion to ensure I did not lock myself out of the chat room. 

Gosh, what event did you go to? We must have gone to different events cos i can't remember when a butt was presented for kissing, perhaps you should have questioned the validity of the event you went to at that juncture? 

It wasn't that bad and i simply say that cos it could have been worse. Some good questions did go through and the FOI thing got a response though a very quick one. Shows how much attention you were paying. The response was basically - no there is nothing stopping the lagos legislature from pursuing it for Lagos. And no, i didn't really see that much derrier kissing, still can't believe some of the questions @B.O.S.S. was presenting considering he always comes on NL to play the "i don't know game". A chance presented itself to finally "know" and he was asking stuff like "is this a p.r stunt? It probably was, so? LOL. @B.O.S.S. you better not come in asking questions again cos i will just ignore you 

Kobojunkie:
I was doing the same to the Admin @B.O.S.S lol . Kept pestering him to post my own questions already. I practically dogged the guy for wasting so much time since I was one of the first to post questions, way before the a** kissing ceremony came to an end.

Eya, you were part of a butt kissing ceremony? Is that something you want to be making public?

Kobojunkie:
Oh Please!! I have actually been in many of these sort of chat sessions. Some with politicians like McCain, Clinton and so on. I have even been on in chat with Vin Diesel, Will Smith and many other celebrities and non of them went the way this went. We are talking of a session with only 17 people in the Chat room. I have been in sessions with over 180 people in chat and still gotten my questions answered. I was on not too long ago on one of these live chat/media sessions with the G4 channel here. I was able to watch the senator answer questions both from callers, the audience and the online community.

Good for you  . I personally wasn't expecting much because the web thing looked badly organised to begin with and hence my hesitation to join until you all kept on going on about it. Could have been better handled, that's for sure and i did not get my question answered too. Think a live stream video feed would have been good. Still think it wasn't a complete waste and we don't know what questions were actually asked from the online chat. They kept asing for questions after i had posted my first question which was ignored. The oshodi response was well argued and was quite revealing of the govenor's take on the issue

out of all responses i saw this was the best one:

TextCast: Oshodi is a sore of this country and the state\

TextCast: and it is one of the first thigns that people see when they come into the country

TextCast: I understand what the people are going through and accept that people need to be compensated

TextCast: now I disagree with your estimate but for the sake of this lets assume it as a benchmark for discussion, the issues of 1500 people

TextCast: are they more than teh issues of a democracy, of an entire state,

TextCast: let us change to 6000 people, lets look at the economic impact of this TextCast: let us say 1 million people

TextCast: Oshodi was taking money from the pocket of other people other Lagosians, who are spending it oon extra fuel on health issues becuae of the traffic issues caused by Oshodi becuae of the traffic issues caused by Oshodi

TextCast: say people have to spend an extra N500 a day then look at that multipled by a million people let alone 6 million people everyday

TextCast: People are moving because fo the traffic to reduce cost fo transportation, people of yanaipija to yaba are movign to ikoyi, people of ikoyi and moving to VIa nd Vi to Lekki

TextCast: there is no long term money in this economy for mortgages, people are not able to buy their own houses.


TextCast: We are developing 7 markets in Lagos, and shops adn stalls will be affordable througha mortgage\

TextCast: I appeal to people to be patient and to wait for us, we will see what we can do to help them to access shops in these new markets

TextCast: hounourable memebrs of the Lagos State House of Assembly, my able colleagues members of the lagos state executive council. members of the permanent secretaries, cahiirmans of local governments who are here present, our royal fathers, present here in large numbers, the Oba of Lagos, his royal majesty, our party leaders, also here in their large numbers, and of course leaders of the

TextCast: Q: There seems to be some thinkign that youa re at loggerheads with teh speaker of the house, and it appears also that you are starvign the hosue of assembly with funds. Your excellency this is an open session Lagosians would want to know are you really workign in ahrmony

TextCast: Fashola: Let me say that in a democracy power is shared, it is shared between the three arms of government

TextCast: The story of humanity is the story of conflict and if teh hosue of assemblya dn teh executive agree all teh time then there will be a major problem ahead

TextCast: and if we look at all of those houses where they are supposedly under control, some people see thigns differetly

TextCast: that is the way of the world

TextCast: there is disagreement between us and the house just as there is disagreement between me and my wife (applause and laughter)

TextCast: but non one comes to sit me and my wife down

TextCast: the budget has performed

TextCast: and therefore I don't think that it is a fair conclusion for anyone to suggest that there is an issues with one arm or another\


TextCast: Fashla: Oil prices are falling, this is a situation where prices are much lower than they have been, the way oil prices are goign int eh market it is a requirement for our economy to be diversified

TextCast: before the discovery of oil the governemtn was funded through taxaton and levies, but when oild was discovered that ended

LOL, you chose to wake up that early to join a media/web discussion session? LOL
I don't think the session was an entire waste of time although the web session could have been co-ordinated much better. You do know how media stuff go with questions coming from everywhere, i really don't know what you guys were expecting. If it was a dedicated web session then that would have been better. I think his stance on the oshodi situation was quite revealing on the direction he is taking to development and i think the response wasn't bad at all and he actually made a good arguement.

Well, my first question wasn't posted and i got no responses. Not too surprised, the whole thing looked badly run. And that is why you don't mix a live press question and answer session with an online one.