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There is a planned general conference on Sunday 15th of February, 7pm Nigerian time and 6pm UK time, 1pm New York time (you can work out the time relating to your zone). Absolutely all are welcome to join.

ARRANGEMENTS:

A list of subject areas to address would be posted on this thread. Anyone who has suggestions of other subject areas they would like to see should raise them. Some people might be highly specialised in certain areas and their inputs are welcome. Now we have to take into account that some areas might be similar or that the topics might be too many with respect to the number of people that show interest (you don't want to be in a room on your own). Hence by thursday, final topics to be addressed will be selected.

Next it is up to you and your imagination is required. Imagine a conference centre with lots of lecture rooms and each lecture room holding a different conference or meeting. Such is equivalent to the different topics. The different topics are going to be hosted in different online chat rooms, this means if you want to be in the room that relates to the topic you are interested in then you have to signify and hence book your place by notifying us on this thread or through email - kinre2002@yahoo.com. A link for registration to the forum were the different rooms are going to be hosted and discourse held would be sent to you. This means you have to "book" your place in the room you want before sunday.

MEETING

The meetings in each room would follow a similar format. There would ba a coordinator that keeps the order, and a main speaker. The main speaker presents what is actually 'on the ground' in Nigeria with regards to the subject (hence a lot of work, research and study is required). Hindrances to development, obstacles etc are going to be outlined, goals are going to be set and strategies proposed. During all of this, everyone refrain from chatting please. Again this is necessary to keep order and keep the meet organised and hence progressive, we can't have everyone speaking at thesame time. Next, people will have the opportunity to contribute. Everyone is adviced to make their contributions concise and to the point of what they want to say, etc. You can contribute anything at all and all contributions are welcome, ideas, contacts or people you might know, your own take on how such goals are going to be met, etc. Again the 'contributions' are going to be organised. The order of people in the chat room is going to be displayed like in normal chat room conferences. The order you appear is the order in which contributions are going to be taken, so again people are asked to refrain from contributing when it isn't their turn. If we finish one cycle and people still have contributions the cycle is started again. IIf anyone has any questions or anything extra to say they can signify and leave it at that. The coordinator will then call people with more to say by id names and such will contribute. The coordinator will be available to coordinate the session and maintain order.

This set up makes it a bit tricky to be part of more than one room although it might still be possible, and if you are like me, you might have serious plans and contributions to more than one area. At the end of the conference, the basic strategies and outcomes of all the discussions would be posted on nairaland and other sites. The aim is to continuously keep people updated and what is going on and what has been achieved. Again, all are welcome.

TOPICS

Below are a list of proposed topics, you are free to raise ideas:

Election 2011
Freedom of Information (FOI) bill
The Education sector
The Health Sector
Electoral Reforms
Social Projects
Corruption and Injustice

The ball is now in your court everyone, so get involved and contributing. We will strive to be as accomodating as possible witht he current set up in place.

Get Involved - the first step is sending an email to ndm and someone will get back to you (ndmnigeria@gmail.com)

brein:
@ PapaBrowne, good one u got up there,

Now, this thread has been up here sine FEBRUARY 3rd or there about, i suppose its high time we start executing our strategies before its gets elapse , and probably (mind changes), Its a good one if we go by what PapaBrowne has said, I think im in rael support of it.

Actually this particular thread has been up since yesterday if you look at the top, and the planning for it started on saturday. Work has been going on to raise awareness about it and their is already a facebook page, i have posted invites on nigerianvillagesquare and the wind of change site. Sam Milla has posted the intro speeches and invites on his forum. I am seeing if it is possible to post an actual article on the villagesquare. We are dedicated to this project and i don't want anyone to feel that this is being taken lightly because apart from getting people here it also vital that this movement is sustainable. There have been so many "movements" or groups geared towards "change" and some have just lasted for a few days. There have been meetings on saturday, sunday and there would be meetings today. These meetings are necessary in order to set the ball rolling. There is a planned conference on sunday whereby absolutely everyone is invited and I shall post the details of the conference as well as the arrangements shortly.

@papabrowne rose very good points and again, these have been considered and yet again I feel it has to be said that this is being taken seriously because we all know what we have gotten ourselves into. If you read what has been posted and proposed by B.O.S.S and myself you would see that focusing on projects like building or fixing up a school falls into the scope of the movement. How does such fall into the scope you might ask? A different direction would simply fall into different sections/areas to focus on. The goal is changing Nigeria for the better and as someone aptly stated the main arguements will simply be on how such positive change is achieved. If certain people feel that working towards the realisation of the FOI bill is the way they want to impact positively then they can work with others of such interest on such a venture by setting out strategies based on the set goals of that area. The movement will support and accomodate all ideas and sectors that are geared towards positive impact and development in Nigeria.
If someone else feels building schools and improving the lives of people through executing projects of any kind in Nigeria, again that is simply a different sector and the movement will support that hence it would be a matter of coordinating different areas and where possible making areas compliment each other.

If we would have only 20 people on sunday's conference then that is fine, we will work with that while all the time focus on raising further awareness. There is actually someone in charge of raising awareness while we also try to do such in our own way. All the points raised and critisicms in whatever form were anticipated because we know what we got ourselves into. I keep using the word we and I feel I have to clear the air. The vision of this movement has been stated and part of that vision is including everyone. For this is not my vision or B.O.S.S's but a vision that belongs to millions of Nigerians. A vision of working towards a better Nigeria. The meetings I speak of are necessary not because certain individuals seek power or seek to put their "stamp" on this vision, but because organisation, coordination and direction is required, hence you can see us as a necessary evil. This is the movement of the people who want to change Nigeria in whatever capacity they see fit and in whatever contribution. You are all welcome because this vision belongs to you and I.

Get Involved - the first step is sending an email to ndm and someone will get back to you (ndmnigeria@gmail.com)

@Papabrowne, very interesting points raised but at thesame time you might have been quick to make some assumptions. The scope of the movement is beyond nairaland and beyond the web. You only have to look as far as nigeriavillagsquare (an online forum) and have a look at what projects have been undertaken there to understand that things can be achieved if we work together. Again our scope is beyong that too. We have reached out to the forum mentioned, reached out to people on face book and other forums and sites. The idea is to get people aware first and see who is in or out. We are planning an online conference on sunday. This is just the beggining and works have been going on behind the scenes. We are determined to work to bring about change and your suggestions fall into the scope too. The idea is to raise awareness first. Stay tuned to the development and thanks for your interest.

amosexy:
We are are not formin a party.It is just a movement .I suggect we change the topic of this thread becos of those thinkin dat we might be formin a party ooo.

Already a dedicated thread for this. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-230880.0.html

9jaganja:
Left to me, I see nothing wrong with sub Saharan Africans uniting not as one country but for military and economic purposes. The Gaddafi's proposal is for the good of Arabs not for Africans at all. He knows the presence of Arabs in North Africa is threatened in the near future. He's trying to hide his own atrocities. Gaddafi, if I remember correctly has been pushing for pan Arabism which has failed to actualize countless times and is still failing. Africans are blinded by religion anyway so I won't be surprised if the Muslims support this cause it's coming from an Arab.

Africans need to unite on their own. Not under Arabs. We've been slaying ourselves for far too long. If we don't unite, we'll keep getting raped by Europeans and Arabs and soon to join Asians.

LOL, you make the slaving thing sound like the career path of africa, like "i have been a cab driver for too long, i am thinking of going into finance" lol. Quite aptly put and interesting choice of metaphors

[quote author=Xavier. link=topic=230880.msg3442787#msg3442787 date=1234113995]BOSS

U can't hold a cow by the horn when someone else is milking it. Get rid of those milking the country dry first, then we can talk of developing it.

U want constant electricity, the generals importing generators would fight u till u give up

U want to eradicate violence in the Niger Delta, the oil bunkers and their Chinesse and Russian friends would fight u to a finish

U want to educate the youths in Northern Nigeria and stamp out begging, the governors and politicians would do all they can to stop u. These guys are their political thugs

U want to stop the importation of fake drugs, then get ready to do battle with Aba Mafia

U want to stop God-fatherism in our politics, then be prepared to war with the likes of OBJ, Annenih, Igbinedion etc

U want to rehabilitate the street urchins in Lagos, get ready to confront their god fathers in the senate and house of assembly

The country would continue in its present still of stagnancy unless fundamental issues are addressed. These issues would not be addressed by a development movement, hell no.

Or u think the likes Dimeji Bankole, Iyabo Obasanjo, Yar dua, Bukola Saraki, Igbinedion ect who like the idea of putting an end to pass me down ploitics (politics of having bad leadership passed on from father to son)?

The question then is what can be done? God knows I dont know, cos the problem with the country is multifarious and deep rooted.

Do we then fold our hands and watch as the country go on decaying? Answer is no.

As for me, I ll keep praying to my Maker for Divine intervention and keep inproving myself as much as possible and also help educate as many youth as i can. Maybe someday God would hear our cry and send down help.[/quote]Permit me, but i feel using challenges that are faced in the country as a means of concluding resignation to the problems is not addressing the problems. If such is the route you advocate then i am afraid we might as well forget about progress in Nigeria or a diversion from the status quo forever. Unless we are all willing to bank on waiting for all selfishly motivated and ineffective corrupt aspiring leaders dying and no one wanting to fill the vacuum the citizernry has left open and unchallenged all this time.

This is not about OBJ, this is not about Russia, this is not about such. This is about development for those who want it. We can all reach out to people who actually want help and we will do our best to provide assistance. This is about setting goals with regards to the changes we want to see in different sectors and planning and working to bring such goals to realisation through strategies specific to the different areas. Hence we can all partake in and contribute in our own various capacities or expertise. There are many people who want to contribute something that will bring about meaningful progress but don't know how. The work is ungoing, so stay tuned and please, again all are welcome.

Get Involved - the first step is sending an email to ndm and someone will get back to you (ndmnigeria@gmail.com)

chidichris:
@poster,
i know u will be ashamed of urself.
it is obvious that the last picture shows ur secong handwork.
i have decided not to relent in my efforts to produce more and more products.
as you can see, i have produced a yatch.
brother, do not slack. let us make nigeria the african japan.

LOOOL. You aren't even trying anymore. Soon you will just just lazily take picture of the spoon you used to eat and call it a new type of material transfer device (aka shovel) you invented.  

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-230880.0.html - Get involved

NIGERIAN DEVELOPMENT MOVEMENT – Get Involved
(A call to social reawakening)

Nigeria. A Country since inception that has been plagued with civil war, coups (which instigated dictatorial regimes), infrastructural decay and underdevelopment, corruption, bad governance and social degradation. The country has challenges which many read like a list of common problems in Africa: a non functioning democracy, freedom of speech or a lack of it, politics driven by ethnic chauvinism and biases along similar lines, lack of basic infrastructure, no accountability in government, defunct industries, a dilapidating educational sector and many more problems which serve as a hindrance towards genuine progress.

Such has been the fate of a country abundantly blessed with raw materials and people resources capable of lifting countries the world over out of poverty if properly utilised and yet the opposite has been the case with each iteration of government, seemingly sliding Nigeria further into the trenches of underdevelopment and retrogression.

A country that while rich in its diversity, in seeming unity lauds its social morality exemplified in principles like respect for elders, community living, social life and service, and strong family bonds of which the people are proud of.
A country rich in individuals of various professions who while underappreciated by the current Nigeria have been able to blossom and receive greater respect in the global sphere. We have writers, doctors, lawyers, engineers, business men and entrepreneurs that contribute their services the world over and yet still can’t boast of a home country that is worthy of respect attained through progress, development and national principles expressed in the quality and leadership of government.

Wherever Africans are present abroad a Nigerian is very likely to be close by. Whenever Nigerians meet it is very likely that the issue of Nigeria is brought up at some point, an issue which seems to inspire passion, heartbreak at the situation and a desire to see change and development as attains in more developed countries especially when these changes are mostly simple in true implementation while only requiring the genuine will to implement and actualise them. Whenever Nigerians meet such are the characters of their discourse and such are the questions asked by people who traverse the length and breadth of the nation. The simple truth is that we have all been collectively let down by the nation called Nigeria and over the various avenues which allow discussion and debates like internet forums, news papers, television broadcasting, radio and the like, one would find people debating on the issues of the nation time and time again while the nation continues on its path of degradation regardless of the quality of such discourses.

While the country is diverse in its union ranging from ethnic groups to religious affiliation, what seems unifying through all groups is the desire for development, the desire for change, the desire for a country to be proud of, a country to raise children in, a country with prospects, a country that can be a beacon of hope to Africa in terms of leadership, governance and development. Rather than letting a focus on what divides continue to stifle progress and development the belief is in allowing the desire for a better Nigeria unite as all. We have an opportunity each day to move beyond rhetoric, arguments and debates irrespective of how articulate, well debated or eloquent such are. We have the opportunity to instigate change and we can change the nation, we can work and act to bring about change in whatever capacity we are able to regardless of what field or profession we ply and regardless of our earning power, for change does not solely rely on such factors but on the genuine willingness to change and follow such desires with actions geared towards bringing about such positive change.

This is not a political party of any sort but a social movement. A social movement that seeks to bring about change in all strata of Nigeria which people are willing to contribute in. We invite and encourage all who want to contribute in whichever sector they are willing to contribute in. We welcome all who want to make an impact and we ask that all feel free for this is not about any one person but about the change we desire for Nigeria, this is not about any one person but about a people’s movement. This is a platform for working towards actualisations of set goals in whatever sphere anyone is interested in contributing in and in whatever capacity people are willing to contribute in to positively impact on Nigeria, we have the opportunity to act. This is not about being financially aggrandised but actions towards the greater good, not about power or egos but selfless service towards development. Democracy has being described as “government by the people, of the people, for the people”. What is sought is a reawakening of “the people”, you and I. Get involved and spread the word. Would you stand to be counted?

nadico:
@jensimi,a good one. i believe we can.count me in. its time we create an impact on the polity,just like pat utomi did when he threw his hat into the ring.yes we can

Again, this has since moved on from the original premise of a political party. It is not a political party. It is not about power or being self aggrandised, neither is it about financial gain or just rhetoric. Are you still interested?

@B.O.S.S check your mail. : )

list update

1) jensinmi
2)pixiraver
3)Kenezi
4)Charlesmud
5)latox
6)Naijex
7)youngies
proudly9ja
9)Busy body
10)amosexy
11)ajadrage
12)agaba123
13)innocentoh
14)sashbaby
15)B.O.S.S
16)beneli
17)ohaechesi
18)Sky Blue
19)cvibe
20)Honeric01
21)Bhola
22)Sam Milla
23)brein

just feel free to add yourself to the list by copying then adding your yourself and posting

MrCrackles:

I wonder oo!

I build Toys everyday and i dont brag about it on NL

I just built another one today, 4 crown caps, and a St Louis sugar box! A moving toy car!!!!

I can easily beat that. After years of research, logistical problems, fine tuning, market research, etc, like some mad scientist walking out of his lab after 2 years of living in it, i am proud to present my own product. It is called "stick connected to tyre". The user runs along the tyre device and using the activator (aka stick) makes contact with the inner walls of the tyre and maintains motion of the trye. I am just in the midst of selling the idea to certain stores and soon it would be hitting well known global distribution chains.

chidichris:
@poster,
you have brought shame to urself, your immediate family and relatives including ur community.
well, since everybody is into manufacturing, i won't be left out hence i v decided to orgnise one small chopper for myself to avoid the traffic wahala here in lagos.
this piece works with pure water.

LOOL, chey, nairaland.

list update

1) jensinmi
2)pixiraver
3)Kenezi
4)Charlesmud
5)latox
6)Naijex
7)youngies
proudly9ja
9)Busy body
10)amosexy
11)ajadrage
12)agaba123
13)innocentoh
14)sashbaby
15)B.O.S.S
16)beneli
17)ohaechesi
18)Sky Blue
19)cvibe
20)Honeric01
21)Bhola
22)Sam Milla

just feel free to add yourself to the list by copying then adding your yourself and posting

list update

1) jensinmi
2)pixiraver
3)Kenezi
4)Charlesmud
5)latox
6)Naijex
7)youngies
proudly9ja
9)Busy body
10)amosexy
11)ajadrage
12)agaba123
13)innocentoh
14)sashbaby
15)B.O.S.S
16)beneli
17)ohaechesi
18)Sky Blue
19)cvibe
20)Honeric01
21)Bhola

just feel free to add yourself to the list by copying then adding your yourself and posting

Ok guys, discussions have been ongoing. As stated earlier the online meet is on Sunday the 15th of February, 7pm Nigerian and 6pm UK time and will last for about hours (proposed). Absolutely all are welcome to join. We will host different rooms which focus on different topics. Each room will have a co-ordinator just to make sure there is some order. I will post a list of proposed topics or issues which are equivalent to rooms. If anyone has any more ideas for issues to focus on then post here. Finally the final topics to be focused on will be selected by everyone (through just common sense selection and popularity or a basic poll). The final topics are equivalent to rooms and anyone that is intereted in a particular room or area of their choice can sign up once the final list is posted. People who sign up will then post their ids to the co-ordinator of each room and the co-ordinator will add them to the conference on the day. all you have to do is log on. In each room, there will be a talk by someone who has really researched what is on the ground in Nigeria with regards to the topic of that room and then there will be basic strategies, discussion, presentation of ideas for actualisation of set goals, brainstorming etc. Then people can contriubute concisely and accoding to the order of the compiled list. I know it might sound complicated but this is all in order to make the first meet organised and successful as opposed to unruly. This is actually happening and everyone who is interested is welcome.

The proposed topics

Election 2011
Freedom of Information Bill
Education
Health sector
Electoral reforms
Corruption and Injustices (suggested by amosexy)

_{Note that these "topics" are not just meant to be about "discussions" but the talks are meant to eventually lead to course of actions so don't just post a topic unless you actually think of some strategies, ideas and plans of actualising some set goal in that area.}

Anyone with any other topics to add are more than welcome to suggest. The main issue right now is raising awareness. We can act to bring about change and we can instigate an awakening. This is already about more than one person and we really can change Nigeria in our own ways and different capacities. The ball is in your court.

honeric01:
I was able to take time in making sure that i read through most of the comments members made here, and i am quite satisfied with what's on ground, Foot soldier? I'm in for that, Online follow-up? I'm In too, Whatever that's going to move this Country forward, I'm in,


So guys, whats' next?

do i have to add first before I'm included?

A small meeting was just held by proudly9ja, B.O.S.S, Charlesmud and I. A conference is set for Sunday 15th February at 7pm Nigerian time and 6pm UK time. The conference will last for 2 hours and is going to be like some sort of convention whereby there are different rooms or arenas which cater to different interests like education, governance, FOI bill. So this week we are going to try and raise awareness about this on different sites etc. All those who have stated interest and have added themselves to the list please raise awareness about what is going on. In this online conference anyone can go into any room/arena they are interested in and the aim is to basic discussion on what is one ground, plan, strategise and open the door for any ideas peopl may have. Again, anyone whoever is interested in this venture is more than welcome, you can signify by addidng yourself to the list because this is bigger than any of us. Let us act to bring about the change we desire for Nigeria, the ball is in your court.

@honeric if you want to be added to the list you can just send your id to proudly9ja or BOSS. then you will be added to the online list. At least you are standing to be counted.

ok all, send your ids to @proudly9ja, he just added me and he is online

so far this is the list:

1) jensinmi
2)pixiraver
3)Kenezi
4)Charlesmud
5)latox
6)Naijex
7)youngies
proudly9ja
9)Busy body
10)amosexy
11)ajadrage
12)agaba123
13)innocentoh
14)sashbaby
15)B.O.S.S
16)beneli
17)ohaechesi
18)Sky Blue
19)cvibe

this is the list so far of people who have expressed willingness to be a part of this. Anyone else that wants to is free to.

[quote author=B.O.S.S. link=topic=228564.msg3439335#msg3439335 date=1234024418]@ SkyBlue

What's the deal? I'll add you to my hotmail messenger alright? or Should I create a yahoo messenger id? I like this enthusiasm. Let's get things started.[/quote]I will send you my id through messenger now and i will indicate its me (i.e. Sky Blue) so you can add me. Hopefully a meet can be organised today but even if, we have a list going.

I have sent @proudly9ja my id for quite w hile now and the invitation has been pending so i guess @proudly9ja in not available at the moment. Currently that is the person to send yahoo ids to so an online group chat can be held. In case @proudly9ja won't be available to host, is there anybody else willing to take online ids and organise the group chat? By the way everyone is welcome and if there is any chance a meet is not held today for any reason whatsoever it would be held later, cos it seems people are drifting on and offline lol.

ohaechesi:
this is an encouraging step even taken in this forum. but lets not contradict issues because it requires the mindset of master planners to build our aim and objective on a solid rock . "Charlesmud" is definitely not verse to hand the committee for a start. we should start with those that are verse and must have vegetated in wisdom. necessity is the mother of invention and we can only invent change in Nigeria with right brains or else, mallam will be the petroleum minister again (in the nairaland pursuit for change and a better Nigeria). God forbid. it therefore means we should embark on the right thing first.

How do we go about this:

1) i suggest its right time we start by posting our various location and a close range to our postal address. by so doing, those leaving in the same location will have the chance to meet each other in person and at the same time interact.

2) a pressure group will be initiated in various location (countries) by nairaland members. gradually, agendas will be posted on nairaland for all members to discuss in their various location. at the same time, date and time will posted for all leaders or representative in various country to come on-line for conclusion. whereby we have our representative to relate our views from different countries. based on that, it won't be necessary hosting a new site. mean that the Rep., chairman, or leader of every group in various countries must be online at the appropriate date and time for the final discussion on the very agenda due to time frame and our various profession. this will limit our nepotism and i strongly believe that even if many others will come online same day and hour, haven noticed that we on an important agenda, they will indemnify their approach. I therefore suggest that everything should be done and discussed on nairaland post instead of opening whatever site. I facade hoodlums sourcing whom to scam if a private site is hosted on this issue.

the above is my humble suggestion as I stand to be corrected.

@ohaechesi there is something that may need to be addressed. Nairaland is a ite with a lot of members. People join topics of their intrest and either spectate or contribute. It is only natural that people would have arguements, different ways of seeing things, different views, etc? Let this not be a hindrance towards a union of people who want to achieve something. I hope we are mature enough to go argue it out on different issues on one hand and still come back to this union, back to this thread, and focus on what unites, which is people wanting to act towards bringing the much needed change and progress they desie to see in Nigeria in whatever capacity they are able to.

The part of your post i highlighted in bold is something that has been addressed. While some people might be comfortable with such, some might not be comfortable with giving out their post codes or other sensitive information like that, it is only na,tural afterall we are posting online. Whoever wants to do such is free to but i advice that sensitive information like address etc is not posted online. Let us take solid steps first of all and overall let us have an open door policy that makes people feel comfortable to come in and help in whatever capacity they can without feeling pressured to do so. You can't speak of yahoo yahoo boys on the one hand and then ask people for their address on the other, LOL.

For now a more dedicated and free flowing meeing seems to be required and i think the online chat isn't "child's play" or unserious, but a step that can be taken so that we can set some things in motion. We need to take produtive steps and please, no need to be rudeto anybody, let us try and be courteous to all. Your ideas have a place here due to the (hopefully) open door nature of the proposed venture and if there are people who won't mind doing what you want to do, then fine, and they can.

proudly9ja:
same here, I dont know how to pm on nairaland. Is there such facility available?

U can all add me on kinre2002@yahoo.com
we can move on from there. But pls state you are from nairaland. Tanx.

@proudly9ja you are being trusted with information guarding : ). I will add you and let you know it is me. Anyone who wants to take part in the online session should add @proudly9ja's id and make sure you put inform proudly9ja of your naiaraland id so that it can be substituted.

Charlesmud:
Well if we are to PM @prudly9ja, is it not the same thing having an ID here and adding the ID to join.

I think there should be other ways people can get intouch if the PM here is so complicated.

Maybe someone have to leave one of his or her un-usefull ID then people add that then they will be forward to the main place (ID) of discussion.

I dont have any other way to this.

Makes sense. The reason i suggested sending a pm to someone with all our details is because with that people can still protect there real e-mail address if they don't have a spare one and whoever is co-ordinating things (eg proudly9ja) can also add eople to the online conference and substitute the yahoo ids of people with the nairaland one so we know who we are talking to.

LOL, i have being fiddling around on my profile, there are personal message options on there but no place for sending messages that i can see. Can someone please explain how the Nairaland pm works please? Isn;t there meant to be some sort of forward slash code or something?

Since @prudly9ja was assigned most of the details i am hoping @proudly9ja will be able to set up the messenger conference. @proudly9ja, can we all PM you our yahoo ids? That way we can all log on and you set up the conference by inviting us. What do you think?

Charlesmud:
I think conference on yahoo messanger is OK too, I am sure we cant all be online at the same time. This are the things that will make it a bit complicated.

You can give the timing and details, I dont have any idea how that timing should go cus it cant just be accurate cus of the time differences.

Atleast some people I think are in USA and they are in the time now and when they get any message we will be in the night, very complicated.

With regards to time differece, an equilibrium can be found. If we say 3 hours from now, it will be 4pm in Nigeria, 5pm in England, 12noon east coast and about 10am west coast. That shouldn't be too bad unless we have folks in australia or asia.

Charlesmud:
I understand you guys too, I'm just trying to give reasons and explain why we need to take things easy.

Yes due to the problems, we need to act fast but we should also know what we wanna do is not a visa or fast food resturant. We have to plan and really take things serious planned.

Yes we need to have a separate place to discuse on how to make preparations or any step about site opening or so, We can talk about all with those that are currently ready then at the same time we will keep communicating here and look for more members while the other discussion procced with steps and objectives.

I suggest conference discussion on messager, you guys can give another idea, I already have one or 2 guys waiting to have an anwser of were to meet to discuse about this.

Messenger conference is fine with me (yahoo messenger, right?)
But for those that have not yet logged on let us put it off a bit till they know the deal. So how many hours from now are we saying and what are the other details?

Jakumo:
The naysayers and disgruntled elements are at work again, expressing doubt about the authenticity of the claim made by the gentleman who downloaded a picture of a child's toy motorcycle in order to declare that the matchbox toy is full-sized and home-made in his backyard.  So what, if all "work in progress" pictures and equipment details are a closely guarded trade secret ?

I find these unpatriotic comments very distressing indeed, in light of the fact that my own home-built aircraft is nearing completion and undergoing preliminary flight tests, as shown in the picture below, which also illustrates the capabilities of the plane for paratroop transport into war zones.

@Jakumo, can we exchange notes on flight logistics, material sourcing, funding opportunities, etc, for i am actually building a rocket ship in my backyard. It might be mutually beneficial if we "compare notes". By the way, is that you in the picture walking on air? Now we definately have to compare notes, I need the number of your babalawo (he must be industry approved of course) don't want the committee getting on my back again.

@Charles ok then, someone volunteered to register a site or something of the sort. Is that offer still on the table? While i get your point completely about not rushing things since this is hoepfully a long term on going thing, i think you should try to be understanding when people migh seem itchy and in a hurry to you. Such have being waiting for so long for something like this, so you might just have to be a bit more understanding on your path : ).

Do we need a seperate area to discuss arrangements (seperate site, forum, messenger, etc) or do we discuss such here? Perhaps that can be a step to take that is accomplishing something definitive instead of all this talk. The discussion would of course relate to setting up an arena (forum, site or whatever) whereby we would be able to direct people to and where the vision can be further hosted.

@amosexy just wondering if you have posted an invite or raised awareness on the site you posted earlier on.

@Kenezy is it possible to have the title of the thread changed? The reason I raise this is because there are already people coming in with the idea that this is some political party. Isn't such far from the primary dimension even if it could be one of the many dimensions? Someone suggested something earlier and what if we just change the thread name to Nigerian Social Movement? This is not a "name" per se but for now it better encompasses in a more wholesome way what such a union stands for, just something that is more inclusive because it shows it is not just for Nairaland but goes beyond that. Social because it covers many dimensions and is ultimately about us all acting together as well as welcoming anyone who wants to. Movement because it is hopefully beyond politics and governance but cuts into every strata of Nigeria and something that can hopefully be sustained by a shared and common vision of people wanting to see a change and act towards it.

Finally, could we start preparing a basic but more specific online meet? We could then discuss on the ideas and plans I am sure we all have or could work towards. Since this whole thing is meant to cut through all starta of the Nigerian situation, the sectors people could join could be, Elections 2011, Governance, FOI Bill, House of Assembly and senate, Education, Health, Media and Journalism, Politics, etc. This will make coordianting discussions easier and after meets are concluded what was discussed in all areas as well as plans, strategies and capacities in which we could act would be displayed for all to see. People could of course join in more than one sector, or the alternative could be holding meets in one area per day. I just think it would be better manageable if it is all split in one day and then any additions by someone who could not be in another sector can be posted later.

Charlesmud:
Sky Blue dont you think this sound childish and unserious somehow. We all ever see the name of this thread "Nairaland Political Party".

I just want us to use this place to bring-up people, then we move to somewhere we know it will be just members of this interest and the discussion will be purely on this vision.

Thank you all for all your supports.
Good idea and that is somehow what we are saying too, get some numbers of people here then we move to somewhere we can discuse then we can all start our ideas and visions.

@Charles, i was not crazy about the name at all but did not want to state it because I did not want to be discouraging and at present I really don't believe a name is  is so significant plus again, I don't want to discourage anybody. In whatever capacity people want to contribute let them feel free to. If the poster succeeds in getting people here then fine : ). Let us just get people aware and this is not all politics at all, hopefully the scope is beyond such and would be accomodating to anyone with something they want to contribute (time, skills, ideas, action, whatever) even if its to contribute and walk away after. We are all for progress and development in different capacities so hence i would even swallow whatever comments I have about any suggested name cos its beyond that, if we find an amazing name and nothing is achieved, then of what use was the name?  

link to similar thread in villagesquare

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/political-action/20022-nvs-p-c.html