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@poster, first read John 16:2 and know why Jesus said there'll be division and second how many times will you deluded islamists be told that it was a parable, read from luke 19:12.

@olabowale, that's because we live in a secular society and its done in islamic societies,

@muhsin, the truth hurts sometimes but you need it

read John 1:1, Jesus Himself is that word (logos), the message is the gospel (good news of the coming of God's kingdom and of the promise of the Holy Spirit and also two laws which are love and faith)

simple question, kill her according to bukhari vol 4 no 260. allah will compensate you with 72 in paradise

shut up abuzola, 9th century muslims believed the earth is flat due to that verse.

they always like to dodge issues, whenever i ask them a simple question, is killing in islam justifiable? you get stupid answers like What about the crusades?, ISLAM IS THE DEVIL'S BIGGEST RELIGION. PERIOD

He gave His message to the lost sheep and chose 11 of them to pass the message to the gentiles.

islam is based on anti- Christian and anti-jewish mentality, its not new to me, i was born a muslim, they propagate the religion by finding faults in others, are they afraid of anything?

Never have i heard my pastor talk about islam( because it doesn't count), the bigger they are the easier they fall, they don't count.

JESUS IS LORD

of course, according to allah, the earth is flat and the sun revolves around the earth and not vice versa, lets give mo some credit, he didn't have a telescope.

@olabowale, open a new thread pointing out those issues and it will be addressed, but first does islam preach that you should kill an apostate?, if thats a yes then that religion of yours is from the pit of hell FULLSTOP

@ olabowale, luke 21:8, John 15:12, LOVE (His commandment, which anyone who goes against it is not of Christ), verse 14: you are my friends if you do whatever i command you, (anyone who does otherwise is an enemy of Christ even if he is a pope)

For many are called but few are chosen and mind you just got to know something FBI's major contractor is a muslim, think about that

muhsin:
Pity.

Your case is simply twofold:

1-You either are so myopic and hence can't see the words in the bold portion. OR

2-You are so closed-minded and as a result can't make meaning out of these words.

If not I don't think there was/is any rule that will let go of these UNGRATEFUL schmucks. Their merciless and thankless action called and warranted for what was done to them. Think man!

Jesus asked for forgiveness for those who put him on the cross, the prophet asked for forgiveness 70times a day making him a sinner, what if they were wrongly accused and probably confessed to doing it under duress, perhaps they did it out of self defence, let he without sin cast the first stone , God is and will always be the only one without sin

What kind of barbaric killing is that, hot nails on their eyes, lethal injection is even more humane.

Narrated 'Amr bin Al-Harith:

The Prophet did not leave anything (after his death) except his arms, a white mule, and a (piece of) land(khaibar,jewish settlement he took after invading it) which he had given as Sadaqa

what a warrior!!!
bukhari 4:330

bukhar Hadith 4:271
Narrated Jabir:

The Prophet said, "Who is ready to kill Ka'b bin Ashraf (i.e. a Jew)." Muhammad bin Maslama replied, "Do you like me to kill him?" The Prophet replied in the affirmative. Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say what I like." The Prophet replied, "I do (i.e. allow you)."

killing is islamic

Narrated Ikrima:

Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "
super horrific

bukhari vol 4 no 260

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

A group of eight men from the tribe of 'Ukil came to the Prophet and then they found the climate of Medina unsuitable for them. So, they said, "O Allah's Apostle! Provide us with some milk." Allah's Apostle said, "I recommend that you should join the herd of camels." So they went and drank the urine and the milk of the camels (as a medicine) till they became healthy and fat. Then they killed the shepherd and drove away the camels, and they became unbelievers after whey were Muslims. When the Prophet was informed by a shouter for help, he sent some men in their pursuit, and before the sun rose high, they were brought, and he had their hands and feet cut off. Then he ordered for nails which were heated and passed over their eyes, and whey were left in the Harra (i.e. rocky land in Medina). They asked for water, and nobody provided them with water till they died (Abu Qilaba, a sub-narrator said, "They committed murder and theft and fought against Allah and His Apostle, and spread evil in the land."

horrific!!!

bukhari vol 4 no 261

@Abuzola,  you are so funny, Jesus did talk about a messenger only that he said we should beware of them as they maybe fake ad mo is the fakest prophet i've ever heard of, too fake, he was poisoned and he died and he's in hell and all muslims will meet him there.

@olabowale, the question was did Jesus, Peter or Paul ever take anyone's life and you still talk nonsense, since they didn't do it i cn't do it but mohammed killed and gave orders to kill, that makes it islamic to kill!!!!,you talk rubbish, a Christian's role model is Jesus,he doesn't do whatever Christ peached against, any Christan who takes a life is guilty of not following what Jesus said, PRAY FOR THOSE THAT PERSECUTE YOU, even on the cross he asked for forgiveness for those who put him on the cross, that to me sounds like someone who is from and of God, and not someone who'll tell you that there's no sin in killing an infdel if he attacked you or not and goes on to promise them lots of women.

And yes paul didn't see Jesus physically but saw him spiritually, and everything he preached about only confirmed the things Christ said in the synoptics.

And please explain this situation in this hadith bukhari vol 4 no 260

Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

Ali burnt innocent people, they had no gun or knife with them, they didn't attack any old lady, there offence was just that they left islam and the prophet endorsed it only that he said kill and not burn, what difference does it make its all evil,

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@Olabowale, do you have a problem answering questions, i asked you about Jesus, you told me about moses, i follow the laws Jesus gave us which is love and faith

how do humps and attachment mean the same

A hump is a bump on animal's back: a rounded protuberance on the back of some animals such as camels and some cattle.

tell me does attachments look rounded.

Remii:
@gen2genius,

1. Jesus, asked his disciples to sell their garments to buy swords, what do you use sword for, peel eggs?

2. During his arrest it was recorded that Peter cut off the ear of one the soldiers and Jesus healed him, if it was never needed or used why did he have the sword with him?

3. What is the origin and the meaning of the word "Crusade"?

1 How many people did they kill

2 read the next verse

3 The crusade was fought by roman catholics, innocent Christian pilgrims were attacked on their way to Jerusalem and so the pope sent soldiers disguised as pilgrims and ordered them to fight only if attacked and just as if he knew islamic mentality thee were attacked and so he waged war against them calling it crusade, and i don't believe in the crusade, I believe in Christ, and Christ said we should pray for those who persecute us and that includes Muslims which makes the crusade evil in the first place, only a political thing,the pope wanted to expand his territory.

Now answer my questions

1 Did Jesus tell his disciples to kill?

2 Did Jesus Kill? (A Christian is Christ-like and anyone who kills isn't like Christ as he never killed

3 Did peter the apostle kill? (he would have but for Jesus who told him to put back his sword in his sheath)

4 Did Paul kill?

5 Which apostle of Christ Kill?

olabowale:
And Sunni is like the Catholic, while Shia is like the Protestants. Now you will see that your asking if Muhammad (AS) was a Shia or Sunni so that you can argue for the fact that Jesus is not a Christian loses any credibility for the simple fact that what Muhammad is, is Muslim, while Jesus is not a Christian. All the forms of Sunni protocols were practiced by Muhammad, while the ahdan of shia may be different because they mention Ali Abitalib, and that is a no no!

Tell me about Jesus being a Christian again. Muhammad participated in building masajid, made Salah, fasted, gave sadaqah, Zakah, Hajj, Umrah! What did Jesus do that you do today. Everyone you mention, I will mention 2 he did not do!
@Gen2genius: many people are accepting it, today. Babs787 is agood example! Stop all of that unsure statements.

Jesus prayed and so we do the same, he cast out demons,we do the same, he preached the gospel, we do the same, he healed the sick, its a common occurrence to true Christians,okay now say he didn't do any of these,

now answer these questions did Mohammed marry 4 or 11 wives?, did he kill anyone?, did he marry an under aged aisha?, you see you all ain't muslims but repackaged islam because if you were olabs, you'll have 11 women, kill apostates and marry underaged girls,
Shia and sunni sects just plainly defines islam(a religion), just like Catholicism, Christianity is  not a religion and so do not have sects but different fellowships.

And you just completely dodged that hadith of the prophet commanding anyone who fell away from islam to be killed again bukhari vol.4 no 260 how would you justify this senseless command.

@olabowale, was Mohammed, Sunni or Shia, how can Jesus be Christ- like(Christian), when He Himself is the Christ. how can the teacher be the student, how can a leader be a follower. just dumb, rili dumb, and you live in the US, How did they give you visa sef?

i see why there's boko haram in islam, they despise wisdom.

And please explain this situation in this hadith bukhari vol 4 no 260

Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

Ali burnt innocent people, they had no gun or knife with them, they didn't attack any old lady, there offence was just that they left islam and the prophet endorsed it only that he said kill and not burn, what difference does it make its all evil,

@ poster, here's a few hadith's that'll tell you a muslim is permitted to kill an apostate

Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' " bukhari vol 4 no.260

vol. V, no. 630 Volume IX is filled with death threats against apostasy (pgs. 10,11, 26, 34, 45, 50, 57, 341, 342

Jihad is fighting, people don't be deceived,

@abuzola tell me how shalom and islam means the same thing, shalom means Salaam, islam means submission which defines the militant nature of islam, its a must you submit, whilst Christians serve God out of love, Love is greater than anything in the world as God is love, shalom is just peace so as salaam, but islam requires submission if you want peace, or why do you have to kill for God if Islam means peace, check out the worst death threat i have ever heard in sahih bukhari vol 4 no 260, that tells you that islam requires you to kill anyone who leaves islam, WHAT KIND OF PEACE IS THIS( THE DEVIL'S OWN)

Jesus said, Shalom i leave to you, God's Spirit brings peace to the heart, not bowing down 5 times, doin jihad, and running between two hills, its a state of the heart.

islam has not been able to add anything to this world so far except violence, westoxification made it possible for you to use the internet, now you are on nairaland posting junk.not a single invention, nothing, all is western or putting it rightly ''Christian"

obama said this to the muslim world ''You will be judged by what you help build and not what you destroy, Islam is the biggest problem on earth, where was islam when Apollo landed on the moon, when the west were advancing in technology, they were reading a book that couldn't inspire them to achieve such great feats, mohammed was largely influenced by the writings and sayings of Greek philosophers who lived years before he was born, Greek scientist galen influenced arab medicine of mohammed's time, they don't have a mind of their own.
6 arab nations faced Israel in war and they all lost, blaming america for it ARE YOU AFRAID OF AMERICA, CAN'T YOU FACE THEM LIKE A MAN

"olabowale, the bible is God's word, whether you like it or not, how many books took 1600 years to compile, with so many authors, but the quran is just a concoction by one sex meniac called mohammed.

how about the fact that he adopted a son and then married his wife and then came up with a verse abolishing adoption, so also he married widows and banned everyone from marrying his widows, he said 4 wives for others but he had 11, he sets a law,breaks it and when the people protest he comes up with a verse to justify his actions, all his dirty actions have a backing in the quran, that is sick

how come it didn't protect him from being bewitched, and come to think of it are jinns the same as what we have in the cartoon Aladdin ''Jinnie''

Jesus saw demon possessed people and all he said was ''OUT" and they left, thats authority

@nezan, of course not, he couldn't read, an illiterate man he was.