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What can a fictional character offer?..just like saying what my inheritance in superman or Thor. I love them. I used to draw comics of them in primary school..

But now I know where they belong in the scheme of things..

Salvation that the prophet talked about is from physical danger...because at death,the body returns to dust and the spirit back to God who gave it. The consequence of mans choice is death. God said "my spirit will not dwell for ever with man,his days shall be 120 years(maximum)...it does not need to be saved from anything. It is God's spirit,it is pure....


Why is it difficult to understand or comprehend?

livingchrist:
No, but Jesus isnt just human but he is also God, so he is qualified to sacrifice himself.

Did he die as god or as man?

What if we give Jesus back to the white man and focus on our roots and heritage..


We will bloosom..

livingchrist:
Well I m genuinely sorry if it is offensive to you.
For your second part,
No, both intentional and unintentional sins are to go with sacrifices not just confessing sins.
Leviticus 5:3-6 Or if he touch the uncleanness of man, whatsoever uncleanness it be that a man shall be defiled withal, and it be hid from him; when he knoweth of it, then he shall be guilty.

Or if a soul swear, pronouncing with his lips to do evil, or to do good, whatsoever it be that a man shall pronounce with an oath, and it be hid from him; when he knoweth of it, then he shall be guilty in one of these.

And it shall be, when he shall be guilty in one of these things, that he shall confess that he hath sinned in that thing:

And he shall bring his trespass offering unto the LORD for his sin which he hath sinned, a female from the flock, a lamb or a kid of the goats, for a sin offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for him concerning his sin.

Animals blood was shed, the reason why blood has to be shed in the first place is that according to God's justice life must go for a life.

Deuteronomy 19:21
And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.

This is the principle of equity,
It is not equity for animal life to go for for a man's life.
For there to be equity, three conditions must be fulfilled.
1. The sacrifice must be equal to the sin
2. The sacrifice must be perfect, this is because God gave man a perfect life and God himself is perfect.
3. The sacrifice must be willing, you know that no animal will willingly present themselves to be slaughtered, the only animals that are near to willingness are the dove and the lamb or a female lamb.

Animals can never meet these three conditions hence sacrifice was repeated every year.

Was there a time God approved of human sacrifice ?

enilove:
Matthew 7:15-21 KJV
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
[16] Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
[17] Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
[18] A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. [19] Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
[20] Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
[21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

By their characters , their words , their deeds etc.

Example . Prophet Odumeje

Is he good or bad?

livingchrist:
In the old testament the Jews sacrificed animals as sin offerings.
Why do they sacrificed those animals, of what use is it if they dont need a saviour

First and foremost, it is rude to answer a question with a question. .

Secondly God approved animal sacrifice for unintentional sins. For all others, all that was required was confess and forsake. (Sincere repentance).

The animal was a she goat less than one year old. Without blemish. NEVER A HUMAN BEING.

Myer:
Moses told God that the israelites won't believe him unless they saw signs. Which was why God performed miracles through him.

Jesus like wise said the people won't believe unless they saw signs, and he also performed miracles.

So the part of miracles and signs cannot be denied just because there are some magicians and charlatans too.

How do you tell the difference?

livingchrist:
A Christian is not self righteous, and a self righteous person is not a Christian.

Romans 10:3
For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.


A self righteous person can be a religious or irreligious person who believes in their own righteous or moral uprightness, good works rather on the sacrifice of Jesus.

Being religious is not the same as being a Christian.

Two questions for you:

1. What is jesus saving you from?

2. Why do you feel the need for a saviour outside of yourself?

Count me out....i dont do idolatry. My own God hates it. "Do not make the image or [i]LIKENESS[/i] of anything in heaven, or on earth or under the waters below the earth, do not bow down to them or serve them..

So asking me to worship a god created in the image and likeness of a man. Something that is found on earth is forbidden by my creator.

So i would pass..

Thank you anyway.

I have decided to follow my creator and the laws he laid out for me in the Torah..

Performing miracles or magic, is not a sign of anything. God even warned his people not to give those chalatans any breathing space. ..

Deuteronomy 30..

Man is imperfect by design..so God really wants us to try. When we fail, we pick ourselves up and keep going.


The whole purpose is to journey from Egypt to the promise land...flowing with milk and horney.


The psalmist once said that there is no righteous man who never sinned. Which is true.

Every generation have them...

Just have a shower in the morning....that is the only thing God ask you to do....

Any other thing is mans foolishness.

Lovelyperson:
And you need to understand that God is Man and Man is God. We are all ONE.

Like how i once put it...

Man is God asleep...God is man awake"

Lovelyperson:
We create our own reality. I agree with this game before coming to play it. It just like given am actor a script to read before acting.

Smart guy....you are really awake. But it is one hell of a fight trying to wake people up. I just drop the knowledge. I know somebody will appreciate it.

I even use the book they even quote from up and down but for some reason they just shot their mind to accept it..i still keep on...

Lovelyperson:
Life is a game. We win some we lose some and come back to play again or decide not to play again.

Saw this from facebook, do you subscribe to it..

Lovelyperson:
Only people of your understanding see and understand that life and death is one and the same. Same as hell and heaven are the same, same as good and bad are the same. And death is not a change of world. Death is the Truth that showed us who we are.

I love you already...thanks.

Kobojunkiee:
And where do we all come from?

According to Jesus Christ, Hell and Heaven are real..

You are darm to low in learning. God.

Let us create MAN in OUR OWN image after our likeness. Let them have dominion on...
And God formed man from the dust of the earth ans breathed through his nostrils and man became a living soul.

Man is dust of the earth + breath of God.(spirit of God)

At death, God takes his spirit and body goes to earth. Or returns to dust.

Just like psalm 104:29-31 says "send forth your spirit and they are created and replenish the earth , take it ans they die and returns back to dust...."

What is your fake jesus saving?

The people who wrote him into existence lack knowledge of God or it was done delibrate to deceive people like you.


You fell for it...because you knowledge is limited.

Kobojunkiee:
And where do we all come from?

According to Jesus Christ, Hell and Heaven are real..

Dummy..

So according to harry potter, Hogwarts is real...
Asgard is real, becauae Thor says so...


Okpe.

In

Lovelyperson:
Life and death....

How is it different from my point? Mind you...life and death is one and the same...death is just a change of world.

Kobojunkiee:
oh now...na onyinbos give me book, yet not that long ago, you were confidently quoting from the same book, telling me that God did not agree with me....see the kin yeye sense wey you get!
ROFLMAO

If you had sense, at least you will understand. But it has ran away from you.

I said Gods laws are universal. It was given to all of humanity. The jews wove a story round the laws so they can teach it to their children and children children. The same law is the basis of the igbo omenai, the yoruba ifa and the vedas of india.

I quote the torah becauae that is what you ONLY know.

Because you are scared to think with your brain.

There is no where in the law where God said "his son" was coming to die for sin...NO WHERE.

SO you foolishly following a character created by Rome as god is lost.

Kobojunkie:
Yes, every verse needs to pass muster, before it is accepted as Truth. That is why I like to joke that context is King, even when reading your bible.
Well, as I said, that commandment, which I choose to obey is a part of the New Covenant, Jesus Christ, the very same who declared the following to you
What Jesus Christ didn't say there is "...every word that is written in your scripture", instead He declared that you live by "... every word that comes out of the mouth of God".

And your claim that the Truth of God is summed up in all of the Scriptures is erroneous, for if this were true, Jesus Christ would not have come declaring Himself the Word out of God's own mouth.
Did you know that even the Pharisees wrote "scripture"?

Why would God share his glory with someone else? You still finding it hard to accept that your jesus is an idol....

Kobojunkiee:
...says the small-minded dingbat who is afraid of facing, head on, the Truth of God.

You sure do need help...have you seen God before. What is the probability that it was not a demon you encountered...oyinbo give you book, all your sense run leave you..

Kobojunkiee:
Oh yes, I do know because my God has explained that much to me. And since I trust Him, therefore I know.

You really dont know you are sick....please see a psychaitrist...

Kobojunkiee:
Maybe your deity is contacted only through an human Oracle or man made artifact, but my God treasures a direct connection of His own design/making.

Again, you can keep your priests who speak in parables to you, since my God does not have an issue clearly expressing Himself when He chooses. He is an expert as far as human language is concerned.

God's word to men are filled with symbolism and numerology, suggesting that even that which is plainly stated by God is coded, implying the statement "though shall not kill" or that which states "...love your neighbor as you love your own self" cannot be interpreted literally?
You must be a genius....

You are only meant to see with your mind's eyes, and not that which is directly before you? Yikes!

And here I thought the ones who bastardized the scripture called the "Gospel of Jesus by Barnabas " where the Batty ones.

Yea, i will let you wallow in your ignorance...maybe in your next life. This one is already wasted..

Kobojunkiee:
I know of 3 options really....

1) Oblivion- those who die without God perish in the grave or cease to exist.

2) Heaven - those who believe and obey God live eternally in reward as Sons of God.

3) Hell - those who believe in God but refuse to obey Him live eternally as hoards of the darkside.

What other options are you aware of?

Lol...know?...in your delusions...

Lovelyperson:
Some of the other choice am saying. There is more to just the two.. Much more.

Which two? Expanciate...

Lovelyperson:
There is more than those two options

Truth is there is no options at all. God gifted earth to humans.what we have is two realms. The physical realm and the spiritual realm. When we die in the physical we are born in the spiritual and when we die in the spiritual we are born in the physical..life is a circle...and a choice.

We are spirits having a human experience, not the other way round. Man is just God spirit(or breath) dwelling within a body made from the dust of the earth..at death, he sheds the physical body.and becomes one with God..The purpose of life is just to enjoy it by moving humanity forward by science and art..

Mystery9:
Those who called themselves atheists are the most stupid sets of people.

Because the people that came to enslave your ancestors gave you a book, all of a sudden you are smart...abeg park welll

Man will only be judged by the content of his character. He commits a crime or breaks a law, he will bw judged by jurors of his peers..if found quilty sentenced to prison or community service or death as the case may be. If he dies he is aquitted of sin. His spirit returns to God who gave it and his body back to earth where it was taken.

He wont be judged by his beliefs of absurdities like God impregnating another mans wife to sire a son. Or giving his life to the said bastard son...Noooo.

God is everywhere, and we are inside the everywhere. Why will God send part of himself to hell? Still bits my imagination.

FatherOfJesus:
Cant you see that your argument is dumb?
Every time you come up with dumb arguments

Dtruthspeaker, this is not me..ohh.

Just settle down and learn. You lack spiritual understanding...


Research and research more..