₦airaland Forum

tdayof:
They are two different aircrafts in terms of role etc.

Yes. I know JH 7 is heavier and more like a cheap Tornado IDS while JF 17 is like Grippen but are their no interchangeabilities in roles?

Henry240:
Nigerian Air Force officials meet with officials from TAI.

When was this?. Will the procurement hit next year's budget?

Even the title of this thread has an error. How could the op have missed it. Nigerian education is a joke.

Man is so self deceitful.
Buhari will win the elections by a landslide. There is no body standing against him. The PDP knows all their possibles have issues. Damaging information is a candidate killer, yet new candidates don't have pedigree yet.

What this op is posting is from the mind of a child. The expectation that something bad happening in a state combined with negative publicity will turn the electorate to PDP, only amateur political observers think this way.

newafricaken254:
Training of china JH-7 fighter bomber aircraft from the Eastern Fleet.

@Nemesis2uagain, is the JH 7 aircraft available for export customers and how does it compare with JF 17 Block II ?.

Yahaya Bello did not spend a lot of money on Melaye's recall signature verification. If he had done, there would have been no Melaye. INEC was also neutral throughout which is to be commended .
I think for Dino's enemies the recall vote was too Windy to FINISH Melaye. I think there is now enough evidence to finish the guy legally

GEJ, Abacha

I knew since Buhari did not die from his illness it was going to be a home run election.
I foresee a lot of his enemies with the fire taken out. This might be the final retirement for a lot of these Generals and godfathers it's going to be a painful fall.

We will all hear the searing cry of pain.

GodFreyinNORSE:
@sternprophet

Please read this



From the above, it appears that Nigeria bought and had received two Mi 35M and Buhari wants to add another 12 super tucano cas aircraft to the airforce fleet.

The total order was Mi 36M is six. We have received delivery of two and awaits four.



Please elaborate more on this. Is Buhari paying for Tucano plane or Mi 35m helicopter. I need some clarification there

Nigeria according to recently available information has received a total of six combat helicopters. They may be be four remaining MI 35M making the six, a further six making eight or six western products with same function.
We will know in less than 3 weeks.

SamuelAnyawu:
We just need 15 F-16 fighting Falcons

So the Americans sending Super Tucanoes to Iraq and Afghanistan to destroy ISIS and the Taliban, they have squadrons of F16s in those countries. Those planes are useless against a small fast moving enemy that is hiding. For Iraq, ISIS came out and captured territory, the F 16s were useful in only that role.
I support Nigeria buying F 16s but it is for use against Chad, Niger, Cameroon, Sudan ...not Boko Haram. Boko Haram will dodge them and stick commit havoc. You need a slow plane that carries many cameras that can see at night and under the trees and deliver accurate bombs and rockets. A plane that is also not expensive to fly. One of the only planes like this is Super Tucano

https://www.military.com/dodbuzz/2017/10/26/afghan-air-force-get-29-super-tucanos

This is Afghanistan. Their deal did not include hangars and large nos of precision bombs and missiles and also no expensive maintenance contract because the US is well edtablished in county. Check the price.

Different deals, different prices. Nigeria has a large manpower element. They will train pilots and engineers for the planes. Two pilots per plane. They will do some systems integration work to make sure the sophisticated weapons work as a unit.

https://militaryedge.org/armaments/emb-314-a-29-super-tucano/

This is Iraq. They ordered their super Tucano in 2015, they got it in 2017. Please check the price

GodFreyinNORSE:
The negotiation for this plane started since the last regime. Unfortunately, the GEJ administration couldn't strike a deal with the erstwhile US regime wjo slammed Nigeria Military with Human Abuse. However, Buhari administration continued on the negotiation and has successfully strike a deal. The deal is not just a plane but comes with support, training and maintenance.

Firstly, the market price of the plane cost $10m. That is just the price of a single unit. We have not added the configurations, the cost of training personnels, spare parts, maintenance, bombs and rockets. From what I heard, this plane is coming with thousands of bombs and rockets, this is coming at a cost.

The warplane is not guguru and epa which you buy and simply eat. Nigeria is not technologically buoyant enough to maintain or fabricate spare parts for planes. We do not have the skills of building our own bombs or rockets. We do not have the the talents that can fly warplane without proper trainings from the manufacturer. These are what added to the cost.

Think about it... You want to buy a phone that worth $100 from Aliexpress, this phone can arrive at $200 when we add more more ram, rom, tscard, screen guide, mouse, touch pen, mode of delivery (dhl, fedex and destination), system upgrade and modification of system. This will add more to the initial cost.

So we all need to throw sentiment away and ask questions. The senate are angry because they do not have pay cuts. And Government is paying directly to US Government for the planes without intermediaries unlike what was obtained in previous government.

You tried but the market price of the plane is not $10m. Why is everybody embracing of lies?. Who gave you that price?. Where is this particular plane version manufactured Brazil or US?. The price every idxxt is quoting off Wikipedia and other places, is it not 2003 price?. What has changed in the price of components and basic materials like titanium, steel, aluminium or carbon fibre? Why do we embrace ignorance and half knowledge in this country?.
MI 35M is a helicopter that Nigeria just bought , the version we bought cost $35m each. There are used MI 35 for $12m.

What of surveillance systems on It? EO/OR, same price?. There was even nothing like that on that same plane in 2003.
So many complexities. To be a youth in Nigeria is not easy. The ignorance is astonishing.

bobgentle:
I see Buhari defeating all those names listed but let TRUTH be told that if PDP should humble itself and project GEJ with any of the above mentioned name as his VP it's a done deal of Victory for PDP and even the apc govt knows that the mess PMB has done has given Gej an edge in terms of popularity both NORTH, SOUTH ,Internationally AND spiritually .

I SO SUBMIT .

GEJ is the most disrespected Ex Head of State iin Nigeria. I have been to Bayelsa severally. That is the first place they will shoot his candidacy down. SS and SE youths should realize that older people know these guys better. Look at what Donald Duke said about the guy. Even Wike in his hearts of hearts does not respect Jonathan. Cluelessness is cluelessness. Get your mind on better material besides it is the turn of the North.

Where did this ignorant op get this price of the Super tucano?
Wikipedia.
Where did he discover that Nigeria was duped?
In his imagination?.
What is the source?
"Emerging information " and a link to a five minute created Webpage .
Who will believe this story?
An IQ below 80. Generally if they can dupe you of all your money online, you can believe this story

Good luck Jonathan totally refused to allow Dieziani appear before the Senate many times. Why do things always feel different from the other side?

Funny enough the official statement about Buhari being the first African President to visit Trump was made by the US government. It was a mistake but it was made by a US office. SO inferiority complex is a big problem amongst lazy Nigerian youths but it could well be that El Sisi's visit was not a full state visit or a mistake whatever but it did not originate from Nigeria. Guys should face their Lau and dream another parochial attack. It is a yoke on your generation, try again.

SalamRushdie:
What economic steps?

Nigeria has moved from food importer to exporter. It is happening. Look at your external reserves. They are going to repair all refineries, look at Lagos - Ibadan rail. People wil be living in Ibadan and Abeokuta and working in Lagos. Look at second Niger Bridge, it will connect the entire west Africa smartly. Look at the way they are remembering they poor and young with SIP. Look at N-power, look at school feeding.

Jonathan will still be alive when Buhari leaves in 2023 and he will rue many opportunities lost because of cluelessness, weakness , being too grateful to be President and being hopelessly corrupt.

fati241:
He has my vote, I give up to him because His academic credential & experience are within the limit

You are voting someone because of academic credentials, that is dumb. His experience is in Nigeria civil service , so he is not a reformer.

obailala:
Still waiting for an explanation as to why Nigeria had to buy those toys for $50million a piece.

Buhari is always right. What is $50 million apiece? Why must Nigerian youths be lazy?. Do you know the world is a global village and you are competing with other races and nationals. Why don't you shake yourself out of the rut?
The package is for
- aircraft
- system integration wirks
- training of pilots and engineers. The pilots are 2 per plane.
- hundreds of bombs and bomb kits
- thousands of rockets and steer kits
- hangers and
- repair tools


Buying capability is not like buying a car in a showroom. Get educated , broaden your knowledge base.

The most IGNORANT person is the one who believes the price shown on Wikipedia. It is a sign of mental timidity and lack of research prowess. All the Super Tucano airfraft and systems bought by Iraq and Afghanistan are the same price as Nigeria's.
The aircraft is not a jet. It is a slow subsonic aircraft carrying advanced surveillance and prevision wraponry forbkilling insurgents that are hiding in forests and caves. The US air force has the most advanced aircraft in the world, they are still buying Super Tucanoes

That is not a 25kg bomb. That's much bigger

mrNEMZY:
More 4 yrs of hardship, joblessness, killings, all for what? A shot at Nigerian presidency.

Anyi achoro your stupid presidency.

God would not forgive anyone that votes again for buhari, and those that have refused to get their pvc's to vote out this dullard, they are equally wicked

Buhari is not hardship. The economic steps are necessary. More importantly, he has nothing to do with the killings. There are embedded terrorist groups in Nigerian forests and sable. They will soon be smoked out.

veraponpo:
100% Sure he will win.

The votes are already divided because of the too many interest groups:

Fela Durotoye will share the Lagos educated Youths- Christians maybe 5% of the total count about 1.5M of about 30M total votes

Sowore will pick the activists in the whole nation- about 1m of the total votes

Atiku might not get PDP ticket and if he does may win 60% in the East and South South. The two (Ss and SE) will give a total of about 6m votes and 25% of the North (North can give 15M) = 3.6M + 3.75 total 7.35M + about 2M from other places ( all things being equal)

Other contestants will have 2M

Buhari surely will have at least 13M or more. Thus:

The real politicians in the East will vote for him against 2023, he will have more than 1M from SE

He will have about 1M from SS ( Akwa Ibom, Edo, Cross River, Bayelsa doesnt have GEJ any more, Delta is already divided, Rivers, APC has 2 Senators out of 3)

He will have at least 1.2M from South West

North East and North West should give him 10M votes

North central should give him 1M

Total for Buhari is already about 14.2M conservatively.

PMB all the way!!!

Buhari was scoring 14.2 million votes as an underdog nau, Please stop being conservative he will get about 18m. He is the only issue now. People who are going to vote for him and against him, not because of any other person

Buhari will WIN landslide. If you like go and bomb 100 churches in Benue with Pope inside. He will WIN.

Odingo1:
Nawoo, the same people that protested that time have gone underground today, what a life.

Buhari hike the fuel price and everyone of them kept quiet.

Buhari is not Jonathan. Buhari also crashed the Naira value and no protest and now the value is creeping up . The power of a good name and integrity is enormous. Always aim for a reputation of integrity.

Atiku would never say this about / to Buhari

SalamRushdie:
Shameless visionless man that goes about plagiarizing and replicating the ideas of GoodLuck Jonathan's govt ... Buhari came and cancelled you win in his vindictiveness only to now change the name and try to claim it ...Buhari where is your own original Idea ?!!!!

Buhari's original ideas - SIP, School feeding, FG guaranteed market for farmers produce (this one not implemented yet), renewable energy (solar), et.c.

Just to clarify further, Goodluck Jonathan never brought an original idea to government. I have listened to all his interviews, NOTHING. I have scoured the Internet looking for social commentaries, articles or PoV by Goodluck, NOTHING.
He is actually one of the most intellectually lazy Nigerian leaders around. The most intellectually active is the man who never went to university OBJ.

Jethrolite:
Is this country cursed or what? Jonathan left a fully functional Youwin but it was destroyed and replaced with YESP, then there was BIG and Aso day. Not a single applicant that applied has benefitted.

If you have time to waste and crack your head for nothing then you can apply. I am not touching any of these rubbish programmes with even a long stick again.

The YouWin was functional? Pls educate us on that. How many beneficiaries and what was the spread nationwide.
Please don't give parochial, narrow scoped reply like 10 Webpage developers in Portharcourt.
I want to hear real stuff like hides and skins processors in the North, oil palm refiners in Calabar or a new type of laundromat business in Lagos.

The most annoying thing about this post is the LIE that Nigerians hated Buhari/Idiagbon regime. Why most Igbo kids accept lies is a mystery to me. The comfortable lie is preferred to truth by most of them. Buhari is President today because of the Buhariz/Idiagbon regime of the past. IBB regime was a scandalous regime. Gloria Ok on was just the smallest issue, they killed Dele Giwa, they stole heavily, they devalued currency without taking IMF loan which was punishment without payment and they annulled elections. Why kids in a new generation can't see the evil and degeneracy in all these is a mystery. As for Saraki. Looting a bank your father passed to you, managing Kwara, many corruption issues and you think he will be President. Nigerian uouths are not judt lazy, they are aldo stupid and cowardly when thry see truth

Aldebaran:
Madrid matching towards the Final

Most likely but Madrid could also lose by 3 goals at home . A lot depends on manager's decisions and key people like Marcello

HARM missiles will destroy S-300 even ( or S-700 if they ever get round to developing such a system). There are smarter and more proficient anti radiation missiles than the HARM.