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Maybe 2000 years ago.

Now its just a backwards and barbaric practice

I hope Nigeria runs out of oil.

KnowAll:
How can a central or federal goverment be putting out fire in down town agege in lagos state, ikot ekpene in akwa ibom state, or wukari in adamawa state. It can never work, in the first place those fire service should be under LG control that is how it is done all over the world not even state should control fire service talkless of the federal goverment.

In fact they should be under municipal control.

As long as the current governor stick to some kind of long term plan and doesn't only think about himself, I hold much respect.

Also, if any other governor posterboys are reading this, plz post large and detailed pics, not those little ambiguous things of a little house in the centre of a grassy knoll.

We'd like to see detailed development, and also don't be ashamed of posting pics of places that your WILL develop but have not developed yet.

Also before and afters would be nice to see.

7 points of failure.

But holy sh@t we're growing at 7-8%, thats amazing. China has grown steadily around 10-12% for 30 years and is almost a superpower.

If we grow at 7-8% and get some basic infrastructure we're flying high.

No, because they themselves are corrupt.

I don't support political violence because it breeds more violence.

OH NO!!!!


The state government is a bully!!! They might actually force the poor Lagosian to use a garbage bin instead of tossing his shit out on the street!!!

Oh the tyranny!!!

Well this is typical.

Federal = inefficient.

The Lagos state government has seen the in-efficiency and is trying to get the fire services handed over to the state so they can deal with the problem.

The self interests spring up again, the thieving gays know they will loose easy loot money.

The problem is, we've been here before. In 1999 Obasanjo took on the initiatives as per the guidelines of the IMF, however in 2002 he had to abandon them due to powerful self interests within the ministries, union threats of mass strikes, and general incompetence or outright refusal of their implementation.

IMF has good medicine for economic stimulation, but as a pharmacist tells you when  you when get your prescription medicine, "Take it regularly or it won't work".

The policies are always the same, and they are proven to work:

1 - Cut down the public sector size to minimize corruption and bureaucracy
2 - Privatize major government revenue generators to also minimize corruption and increase market efficiency
3 - Increase local revenue base by liberalizing the land market, allowing for easier purchase of property for the average citizen
4 - Tackle inflation, preferable target for inflation should be 2%-8%, anything over will create overheating of the economy
5 - Reduce trade barriers with neighbours (already done).


So, look at the list, tell me which one we can tackle without some form of riots, destruction, mass action industrial strikes, sabotage, or outright wilful negligence of implementation due to self interest.

I'm all for IMF help, but it comes down to our will in implementing its recommendations.

I can see this turning into the Uwais report.

DrKing:
Demographically we need to know Nigerian population disaggregated by gender, age and other inidices basically for the purpose of development. For instance, how do we plan in terms of education without knowing the population age groups in any state or local government area? That's why we do not have daily update list of births and deaths unlike other developed nations. Tradition or nor tradition, we cannot avoid to be achaic in this regard. Presently Lagos State is trying to challenge the last census but with data, ?

Plan? Have u seen Nigeria? Plan? Ha, Nigeria there is no planning.

Politicians in Nigeria don't plan unless its a plan to loot the trasury.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8094012.stm

President Omar Bongo of Gabon died this week after nearly 42 years in power - who inherits his title as Africa's longest-serving leader?

The BBC's Peter Lewenstein has compiled a list - in reverse order, by length of continuous time in office - of the 10 African heads of state who have stood the test of time.


No 10: PRESIDENT ZINE AL-ABIDINE BEN ALI of TUNISIA

21 YEARS IN POWER
President Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali came to power in a bloodless coup in November 1987.

He took over from Habib Bourguiba amid claims the latter was unfit to govern owing to senility.

Mr Ben Ali marked the 21st anniversary of office by releasing 44 political prisoners.


No 9: PRESIDENT BLAISE COMPAORE of BURKINA FASO

21 YEARS

Mystery still surrounds the death of President Blaise Compaore's predecessor and friend, Thomas Sankara.

But after he was shot dead by a group of soldiers in October 1987, Mr Compaore, as his number two, stepped into the breach.

President Compaore has since won three elections, scraping in last time round in 2005 with 80% percent of the vote.

No 8: KING MSWATI III of SWAZILAND

23 YEARS

King Mswati came to the throne in April 1986; as son of Sobhuza, he was heir to the Swazi throne.

But it took a three-year power struggle following his father's death before he was crowned.

As an absolute monarch, elections are not really his thing - he has allowed people to vote for members of parliament, but political parties are not recognised.


No 7: PRESIDENT YOWERI MUSEVENI of UGANDA

23 YEARS

After years in the bush fighting a rebellion, ex-army officer Yoweri Museveni led his National Resistance Army into Kampala in January 1986 to seize power.

He toppled Basilio Okello, who had himself overthrown Milton Obote in a military coup six months earlier.

Mr Museveni has also won three elections, but only last time, in 2006, were candidates allowed to run on a party-political basis.


No 6: PRESIDENT PAUL BIYA of CAMEROON

26 YEARS

In November 1982, Cameroon's first post-independence leader, Ahmadou Ahidjo, formally resigned due to ill-health, and handed the presidency to his Prime Minister, Paul Biya.

Since then Mr Biya has won five elections, which - say the opposition - is not surprising, given that the votes have always been overseen by senior ruling party figures.


No 5: PRESIDENT HOSNI MUBARAK of EGYPT

27 YEARS

Hosni Mubarak took over after the assassination of President Sadat by Islamist militants in October 1981.

He was confirmed as president by a referendum.

In the last election in 2005, he squeaked through with 88% of the vote.

There has been plenty of speculation in Cairo that he is grooming his son Gamal to succeed him.

No 4: PRESIDENT ROBERT MUGABE of ZIMBABWE

29 YEARS

The world cheered when, after leading a long guerrilla war, Robert Mugabe led his Zanu party to victory at the elections in February 1980, after Zimbabwe had won its independence from Britain.

But he is no longer a global favourite and the opposition accuses him of destroying his country in a bid to stay in power.

He is now sharing power - but remains president.

No 3: PRESIDENT JOSE EDUARDO DOS SANTOS of ANGOLA

NEARLY 30 YEARS

President Jose Eduardo dos Santos assumed power on the death of Angola's first president, Agostinho Neto, in September 1979.

But for much of the time after that, he ruled only over half the country, as his MPLA fought a civil war against Unita.

Now, with the war over, and Unita crushed at last year's parliamentary elections, he is being called on to hold an election for the presidency. No firm date has yet been set.


No 2: EQUATORIAL GUINEA'S TEODORO OBIANG NGUEMA

NEARLY 30 YEARS

President Teodoro Obiang Nguema came to power in August 1979 in classic style, deposing his uncle, Macias Nguema, who fled but was later captured and executed.

Despite its new-found oil wealth, 60% of the people of Equatorial Guinea live on less than a dollar a day.

But they clearly all love President Nguema, as he won 97% of the vote at the last election in 2002.

No 1: PRESIDENT MUAMMAR GADDAFI of LIBYA

39 YEARS
And finally, Africa's undisputed newly crowned longest-serving ruler, Muammar Gaddafi, who was in office a decade ahead of his nearest rival.

Col Gaddafi led a coup by young army officers in September 1969, then set about establishing his own political system, as laid out in his Green Book; and he's been there ever since.

Last year, he was named "king of kings" by a meeting of Africa's traditional rulers.

Where they going to put it. Tell us now so we make sure we don't buy property there.

If they don't maintain it, it will blow up in their faces, the Ukranians can tell you all about that

And this is why the military did such a great job developing Nigeria?

Trying to shift the blame on someone else.

Let Ibadan do what Lagos did and begin a crackdown on crime.

10 years ago Lagos was ridiculous, at least now one can take a stroll through the city without fear of death.

Uganda is already fkced up

And who's to say the next honest election won't be annulled?

Blacks can't grow up because our thinking holds us back not because our genes are bad.

We've taken it everywhere with us, Haiti, Jamaica, Brazil, Nicaragua and even that African/Asian island called Madagascar.

We fail to be objective, whether we are black African Americans, Haitians or Nigerian. We squabble amongst each other, we fight over irrelevant matter, we follow the orders of our closest relatives or friends without so much as a second thought of their logic or coherence only because we are "boys"/"fam"/"igboman"/"muslim"/"christian"/"northern" etc".

We use modern weapons to kill each other from Somalia to Haiti because we did not invent them and still do not understand their awsome power of destruction.

We have no culture of humbleness, we cannot accept defeat (Haitian election, Nigerian election, Zimbabwe election, so on and so forth), we cannot accept criticism, especially from those younger or different from us, we take it as an insult and see it as a declaration of war on our character.

Small differences create wedges in our societies that usually spill over to violence.

We have never had to maintain anything in Africa and hence we have no culture of maintenance. We will spend N3m for a new palace, and yet it will have weeds growing in its central area because we did not maintain it, no one thought of that.

We spend N6m for French to build us a power station and yet we did not take into account maintenance, expertise, the labor, knowledge, and thoroughness in being able to make sure it operates at full capacity.


We complain that our leaders loot, rig elections, and share the wealth of our black curse gold from the Delta (or Diamonds, or whatever other mineral), and send their children to Western universities whilst we rot in the petulance of our misery. And yet, given the opportunity, many of us will gladly do the same thing if Selected into such a position of power. In-fact, we do it everyday of our lives we just fail to realize it.

And worst of all, OUR PRIDE, lack of humbleness and blatant arrogance continues to  prevent us from dealing with our own faults. Each day we step closer to recolonization, each day labours another hour where we gasp in the smog of our incompetence and blight while pointing at the sky and saying ", god willing we will be saved".


And the squabbling and misery shall go on, until we choose to fix ourselves up.





The only difference between SA and Nigeria is that

1) SA takes statics (while Nigeria doesn't)
2)Whites care about SA (while they don't for Nigeria) and hence all the negative publicity
3)If Nigeria had 10% of its population as whites who earn an avg income per capita the equivalent of an American and live in American style suburban homes and luxury condos, you bet they'll be walking targets





This thread is a typical African style thread, we are trying to put down another nation (people, tribe, religion, territory) because they are different from us.

Nairan

One 1st world African country would be nice, just one.

Every other race seems to have at least one 1st world country to their name.

We have a giant population.

Giant ego.

Giant problems.


But Nigeria is like a big friendly giant, we still love it. Well, sort of, if its government does tend to be a murderous comedy club

In the 1930 most people thought the NSDAP was a fringe party full of wackos and right wing extremists, and could never come to power.

In 1933 NSDAP came to power in Germany, the rest is history.

Never say never

They'll be more efficient looters.

Mugabe went to Oxford and he's not exactly creme de la creme.

Governors would prefer to inflate the population of each state so they can get more federal allocation.

Nigeria may actually have a much smaller population thatn the 150m its been tagged with.

Muslims need secularism imposed on them, whether they like it or not.

There should be no questions about it, Nigeria is a secular state. If they riot and burn churches, they should be shot. The iron fist of the army should be used to supress anti secular decent.

I don't care about the rest of the article.

Corruption knows no tribe and no religion.

I bet the robbers were a multi group of Yuroba, Igbos, Housas, Fulani Sokoto etc. at the end of the day they'll be quite happy to put their tribalism aside and share the stolen loot.

An international watchdog, Human Rights Watch (HRW), has said there are serious setbacks, especially in addressing  Nigeria’s “chronic human rights problems and endemic corruption.”
In a letter to President Umaru Musa Yar'Adua and signed by its Nigerian Researcher, Mr. Eric Guttschuss, the HRW in an assessment of the  Yar’Adua administration said halfway through his presidential mandate, the President had undermined the country’s foremost anti-corruption body and done little to rein in an abusive police force.
The body accused the administration of failing to address the root causes of escalating crisis in the Niger Delta, saying  it had failed to address the causes of Nigeria’s human rights problems or change the atmosphere that allows abuses to persist.
It also faulted endemic government corruption and mismanagement, which it said robs ordinary Nigerians of their basic right to health and education and ongoing state-sponsored violence by the security forces in the Niger Delta as other setbacks of the country.
Though the global watchdog acknowledged what it described as the administration's tentative steps to address Nigeria’s human rights concerns, it however noted that the efforts had so far amounted to little impact on the lives of ordinary Nigerians. 
HRW, therefore, proposed a 10-point human rights agenda to include: passing a proposed Freedom of Information Bill; improving oversight of state and local government expenditures; holding accountable government officials responsible for embezzling public funds or instigating political violence; passing legislation barring discrimination against “non-indigenes”.
Other recommendations include: investigating and prosecuting members of the security forces implicated in extrajudicial killings, torture, or other serious human rights violations; dismissing the Chairman of the electoral commission; and appointing an inspector general of police committed to ending police abuses.
It stated that Yar’Adua in his inaugural speech, promised to pursue an impartial, “zero-tolerance” policy toward corrupt officials, but instead he had fired the dynamic chief of the anti-corruption commission and had not held accountable key ruling party politicians who had been credibly implicated in the massive looting of the state treasury.
HRW also said the National Assembly, which is controlled by the ruling party, had not passed the Freedom of Information Bill, which would have empowered the citizens by giving them access to government financial records.
The global watchdog argued that two years after the violent and deeply flawed 2007 elections which brought the President to power, elections were still determined by fraud and violence rather than the will of the people.





http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=145537

btw Gabon is one of the most developed countries in Africa.

Most African "leaders" didn't take the position to lead, but to steal.



However he lived in Gabon, he went to Spain for medical treatment.

Let us hope that the military does not take over but there is peaceful transition.

Religion should not be imposed on others?

Do people from the 'east' not believe of any sort of freedom of choice? (by east I mean Arab doctrine)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP8lJ37j8eI

Good old sharia.

Yay for Wahab,