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Muta to the Shias is a marriage that is destined for divorce. This, however, is far from being supported in the Noble Quran. Here is what Allah Almighty Said regarding divorce in the Noble Quran:

‏2:236 لاجناح عليكم ان طلقتم النساء مالم تمسوهن او تفرضوا لهن فريضة ومتعوهن على الموسع قدره وعلى المقتر قدره متاعا بالمعروف حقا على المحسنين

"You bear no sin if you divorce your wives AS LONG AS YOU HAVE NOT (ma-lam مالم) had (a sexual) contact (with them), and before settling (the amount of) the nuptial premium (for them). Yet, you should make provisions for them (even then); the affluent in keeping with his means, and the poor according to what he can afford. A fair provision is an obligation upon the pious. (The Noble Quran, 2:236)"

Ma-lam مالم in Arabic means "as long as you have not," which makes it a condition and a Law. The meaning of the word مالم as "as long as you have not" is very well-known in Arabic and the translation is also proven by ample English translations of this Noble Verse. So irresponsible divorce after the consummation of marriage (after sex) will bring sin upon the irresponsible and guilty one(s). The Noble Verse is crystal-clear about this.


Ma-lam مالم does not mean "before":

قبل means "before" in the Noble Quran and in Arabic. The following Noble Verses clealry prove this:

‏2:108 ام تريدون ان تسئلوا رسولكم كما سئل موسى من قبل ومن يتبدل الكفر بالايمان فقد ضل سواء السبيل

[002:108] Rather you wish to put questions to your Apostle, as Musa was questioned before; and whoever adopts unbelief instead of faith, he indeed has lost the right direction of the way.

‏2:254 ياايها الذين امنوا انفقوا ممارزقناكم من قبل ان ياتي يوم لابيع فيه ولاخلة ولاشفاعة والكافرون هم الظالمون

[002:254] O you who believe! spend out of what We have given you before the day comes in which there is no bargaining, neither any friendship nor intercession, and the unbelievers -- they are the unjust.

‏2:4 والذين يؤمنون بما انزل اليك وماانزل من قبلك وبالاخرة هم يوقنون

[002:004] And who believe in that which has been revealed to you and that which was revealed before you and they are sure of the hereafter.

‏2:21 ياايها الناس اعبدوا ربكم الذي خلقكم والذين من قبلكم لعلكم تتقون

[002:021] O men! serve your Lord Who created you and those before you so that you may guard (against evil).

Temporary marriage is Haraam continues . . . . .

The Shias allow marriage of any type and for any amount of time. A Muslim can, for instance, marry a young college girl with hot sexy curves and very beautiful body for an hour and then divorce her. Muta marriage to the Shias is a marriage that is destined for divorce. Yet, their own sources strongly condemn divorce as we clearly see below. Let us first see what Allah Almighty Said regarding irresponsible marriage and irresponsible divorce in the Noble Quran:



(a)- Divorce is condemned and could bring sin upon you according to the Noble Quran:
Throughout my articles, I've always liked to take the worst case scenario that the infidels charge Islam with and still refute them by Allah Almighty's Mercy, Grace and Will. For our case here, I will take the Shia's argument that the Prophet of Islam never personally nullified Muta-temporary marriage and still prove that this type of Muta is not only detestable to Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran, but it is also supposed to be far from being a legalized prostitution, because it shouldn't be a marriage that is destined for intentional and planned divorce to begin with.

(Note: Noble Verse 4:3 in Sub-sections "B" and "C" below gives a big smack to the Shias' prostitution!)

Refuting Muta: It is haraam. Who among us will permit his or her women folks to go for it? Definitely not me. I am a son of a woman, a brother to many, a nephew to many, a cousin to many, an uncle to many and a husband. I have good jealousy in me. I detest evil. temporary marriage is.

The sub-sections here are:

(a)- Divorce is condemned and could bring sin upon you according to the Noble Quran!

(b)- Marriage is a ميثاقا غليظا "Great and Solemn Covenant" according to the Noble Quran! pulsar.gif (2171 bytes)

(i)- Islam is now Complete! Shias be Warned!

(c)- If you're not stable enough, then marry only ONE WIFE!
(d)- One wife even if the orphans are compromised!
(e)- Divorce in the Shia sources.

i- Divorce is the most detestable permissible thing to Allah Almighty.
ii- Except in adultery, a divorce must never happen.
ii- Divorce shakes the Throne of Allah Almighty.



On this site, we have created a detailed section with many articles, both in TEXT and AUDIO, proving using Islamic quotes from both the Noble Quran and the Hadiths (Sayings of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him) that temporary marriage is forbidden in Islam. You can checkout those articles at: http://www.answering-christianity.com/muta.htm. In this article, however, I will prove that temporary marriage is also strictly forbidden from those Islamic Pharisees' own sources, by Allah Almighty's Grace, Mercy, Guidance and Will.

Is divorce taken lightly, as muta marriage is?

How can marriage be taken lightly, and the other side of it divorce is taken so seriously?

Muta is a forbidden thing if marriage is a serious affairs.

I will indeed post many verses of Quran frowning at divorce, and also talking about the seriousness of the marriage. I am a proponent of remarrying, but temporary marriage is unethical.

Please visit Answeing-christianity.com and go under the temporary marriage to do your own research after my post from there.

May Allah reward the authors. Amin.

@Yommyuk: « #184 on: Today at 12:57:41 PM »
[Quote]
i got it;
What you got is a lie.
1 John 2:22
"And who is a liar? Anyone who says that Jesus is not the Christ.[/QUote]In the Quran, it is said that Massiah Isa bin Maryam; The christ, Jesus son of Mary.


[QUote] ANYONE(you) who denies the Father and the Son is an antichrist.[/Quote]Allah asks "how can God have a son when He has no wife?" Jesus himself said in the Bible that his God has a Name: Elaw. Jesus also said he was a servant sent.


[Quote]Quote
you do not get it.
LIAR, It is you that don't get it. Your lies are from the pit of Hell.
1 John 2:23
Anyone who denies the Son does not have the Father either. (So if you think you can hide behind allah, u better beware), BUT ANYONE(Me) who acknowledges the SON has the FATHER also. Cheesy[/Quote]a person says he is a servant but you insist on calling him son. a person says he is powerless, but you proclaim him most powerful. if the usage of son in the bible is sign of blood ties with God, and not just that a person is merely a believer in the true faith from God, then King David is declared as the first born son and a begotten son of God. But we know he was sired by a man. God never declared Jesus as his first born son and a begotten son. Imagine the number of sons and children of God in the bible! I will ignore your pit of hell statement. i didnt respond to the liar statement. I let your Bible respond to you.


[Quote]Quote
the another comforter (AS) who heard from God and repeated in the same manner that Jesus heard from God, in his time.
Another LIE that needs to be sent to the LAKE OF FIRE Angry
John 14:16
And I will ask the Father and he will give you another "ADVOCATE"(Comforter) who will never leave you. He is the HOLY SPIRIT, who leads to all truth."[/Quote]Read the test of knowing a true prophet apart from the false prophets. In the process, it is indicated that the true prophet is a spirit of God, to mean what guides the true prophet is always from God, including the saying and the actions of the true prophet. Yommyuk, is the Holy Spirit a prophet? Tell me a single prophesy or any revelation? Whats the book of that Holy Spirit called? I know the Book of jesus is called Gospel, though what you have now is contaminated.


[Quote]Where does Mohammed come into the equation. Is Mohammed the Holy Spirit? Grin Grin Grin LIAR. God forbid.
WAKE UP BRO from your slumber Shocked[/Quote]Yommyuk, maa fi oje ton ara e. What did the holy spirit hear and told the disciples? Just one thing that the holy spirit heard from God and he opened his mouth and the disciples heard him tell them with their ears. I think you put the disciples and jesus down when you say that jesus had 12 followers who were so bad that they had to be corrected, reminded, led to all things etc in such a short span of time between jesus ascension and the day of pentecost. it insulted the sensibilities of straight thinking people.

@hymen: The Quran didnt say Jesus was crucified. Quran didnt say that he was resurrected. I am sure you might have been wanting to take one over LagosShia, in the heat of your anger.

@LagosShia: No father will want his daughter for a muta marriage. Definitely no believer will want something like that.

Surah Nisaa verse 25 makes sure it should not be so. So are many other verses of many other surahs. All marriages should be with the intention of forever on this earth. Anything less than that is forbidden and it is deceitful.

by and large the turks are not that religious after 2nd world war.

islam is just coming back into their hearts.

if the whole of muslims are persecuted, it will not diminish Islam a notch. it will be a test for the muslims; either true muslims or majority are hypocrites.

interestingly, most christians do not see this as evil. the jews refused to be integrated, a long time ago?

@ttalks: « #21 on: Today at 09:36:02 AM »
[quote]Heb 7:17
(17) For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Anybody who understands English language properly will know that this simply means:
"For he testifies, you are a priest forever just like/similar to Melchisedec."
This is very simple. I wonder why some people make mountains out of mole-hills.[/Quote]The Book of Hebrew. Did Jesus have any role in it? I doubt it. Its a statement of a man putting words in the mouth of Jesus. That will not count. So come again. This time use what Jesus said.


@Joagbaje (m): « #22 on: Today at 05:49:33 PM »
[Quote]@sweetnecta
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From your opinion, against mikeg's, we can say that Melchizedek's priesthood is not ended, though Jesus priesthood started, running as well. Dont we therefore have 2 major priesthoods running there; lessening the importance of Jesus in every respect?

Priesthood is not thesame as order. Priesthood is under a particular Order. Under levitical order there were several priests that came and gone. Jesus did Not create a new Order, he only reverted to the Order of Melchizedekwhich existed before[b] Levitical. Levitical was stricly for the Jews only. Now that the kingdom has God beyond the Jews, there is need for another Order. [/b][/Quote]And Jesus said "I was sent to the Israelites". When did that included you? Maybe because the igbos are saying they are Jews? Common.You know you are a 100% gentile and you have no chance with Jesus. Besides, his time is over, just like the time of Moses was over when Jesus began preaching.


@Mikeg: « #23 on: Today at 06:47:04 PM »

I need to apologise to everyone because I have obviously not been clear in what I am saying. In Hebrews 7:11 we read, after the order of Aaron? This relates to the Levitical priest order i. e. If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood. The point being made is that if people could be made perfect (Gods required standard) by the ministry of those called/named the 'Levitical priesthood' what need was there for another priesthood called/named the 'Melchisedec priesthood' to be established with Christ as high priest?

So then this scripture alone makes it very clear that the priest order of Christ is called/named 'Melchisedec' and obviously there are priests of this order or Christ would be simply priest.

In other places as we have already seen believers are said to be kings and priests and as the order of Melchisedec is the only priest/king order and Christ is High Priest of that order surely it follows that believers are priests of that order too.[quote][/Quote]Especially when you believe in trinity? Tel how that fits with melchizedek who met Abraham the one who believed in 1 God?


[Quote]Not to mention that believers also qualify for this priesthood by virtue of an endless life.

To conclude then, one church established and named by God 'the order of Melchisedec', one High Priest forever 'Jesus Christ', all believers priests within this order.[/Quote]I wonder where the rhyme and reason are in this, since everyone will die, will many are looking for rapture? Is God not going to punish a person who took a god for God?

@oritameta: When a speaker speaks lies against you, it is your right to hate the lies, if not confronting the speaker, at least if you have the will, speak to whoever listens what the truth is.

there is no place that Muslims have lied against any of the christian sages just to win a point. If Jesus is your God, we simply as muslims tell you to look in your Bible that he said he has a God. That God of Jesus must be higher than Jesus.

We will not say a thing that you as a christian have not said. We simply ask you to take a second look at your own book, and give what you said its proper meaning, and not just a gloss over.

Christians do not do the same for muslims. They twist Islam to fit their own agenda.

Dr. Mark Gabriel who left Islam is a very good example. The guy was not really a religious person anyway. It is no surprise after I googled his life that he left islam. He was raised by a christian as a child and his parents felt that he was almost gone the reason they sent him to Al Ahzar. Typical of egyptian saying to give what is not complete to Allah. Typical of christians to seize on the least valued material raising it up as if it matters.

I have met African Nun, Caribbean Pastor who both of them reverted to Islam. I met a Ghanaian army officer who came into Islam in Italy on some official visit. Reverts are a dime a dozen in western countries.

To show me Dr. Mark as a symbol of success of christianity is dishonesty. Not all who memorize Quran are muslims. Not all Arabs are muslims. And not all arab muslim teachers are good muslims, anyhow. Islam is not a religion measure on the back of any man. 1 Dr.Mark lost, a 1000 Shelkh Maustapha is gained into Islam.

^^^^^^^ My statement is of the type that shows no arrogance. In reality, since you didnt get it, the joke is really on you. I will not argue with ignorance, the reason that I simply let you have your piece said. A man who took human as his Creator has no foundation to stand on. It means that he has no brain, and without a brain how can IQ be measured?

I have a God that Jesus called his God. I and Jesus stand in reverence and acknowledgment of the same God. Why will I be arguing with you when you take a human being as God? If you dont know that it is wrong, and you are arrogant about such a folly when told, the best I could do is to prevent you from leading others to the same error. Your ways is mixing human and ghost with God. It is my duty to prevent others accepting it.

@Poster and others: « on: Today at 09:47:29 AM »
[Quote]What do you think happens after we die?
Do we rest, and wait for that day?[/Quote]Everyone will die, without any exception. All prophets of Almighty God will die on earth and shall be buried. And there is no rest for the disbelievers in Oneness of God. The denial of God in this respect is the greatest of all form of sins of disbelief.


[Quote]Or does our spirit roam free till the day of reckoning?[/Quote]The punishment for disbelievers begins from the point of death, when the soul is being extracted/separated from the body to make it lifeless.


[Quote]Is there really an hell or heaven, or just a constitution to balance good and even?[/Quote]If there is no hell and paradise, then why the process of tests and laws to test on? Everything has its reward, the reason Paradise as Mercy while Hell as Justice are created. It is similar to appearance in court. Everyone wants to be found not guilty or not necessary to be punished for the offense because mercy is being shown by the court/judge.


[Quote]Have you ever feel the presence of a dead person?[/Quote]If you ever saw a person die, the Quran will be alive to you. If you ever saw the eyes of dead person, you will wonder if they were trailing something disappearing. They are following the soul that is being carried away from the body.


[Quote]Please back up post with religious facts.[/Quote]I invite you to read the Quran. Check out from the index matters of death, the soul of human, Hell, Paradise, Reward for belief or disbelief, etc. You can google these things from Islamic perspective. May God Almighty open the Door of His Mercy to us so that we can accept His Guidance. Amin.

@LagasShia: As I listened to the adhan of the shia, I found it different from the adhan I am used to. Please you explain the reason for the differences?

I remember reading how adhan came about in Islam. Umar bin Khattab and another sahaba (RA) had the same dream the same night, which they related to the messenger (AS) as the formulation of a call to gather muslim was been sort. Just like evrything else the legislation of salah was made in the lifetime of the messenger (AS), including the one praying behind him saying "wa mu Rabbana wal kal Hamd", just like Bilal Rabah (RA) additing "asSalatuh Khairun minal Naumm" for salatul fajr/subh adhan.

The adhan formulated under the messenger was not what I heard the shia Muhadhin call. Why a new adhan is what I'm asking? Is matter of salah at least not completed in the presence of the messenger (AS)?

how can God have a son when He has no consort (a mate)?

Didnt Jesus say he was a servant?

Didnt Jesus say he has a Lord Who is One God to all?

@Oritameta: Just to support my brother LagosShia, the christians without reason say that muslims worship a god called allah and they brought out an idol with a moon on its chest to show that they are correct, trying to say it is the moon god called allah?

whats correct about it when the idol they brought was found in Palestine, the ancient home of the children of Israel, while everyone and their unborn children know that Islam is against idol worshiping? Whats correct about it when the moon is nothing but a sign of the time (night) and the messenger of Allah split it into 2 as a sign for those who asked for it to see?

^^^^^^ While Mikeg, above, provided to single proof, considering that the same Bible he is lionizing were written by mere men who did not receive any prophetic office, and Jesus since he is a christian did not exist in their time. It is nt only this, but we read opinions of men, and mundane statements that actually call the whole bible into question of authenticity. A beautiful writing may not always be truthful, while a not as beautiful one is probably the truth, absolutely.

@Mikeg: « #15 on: December 22, 2010, 06:58 PM »
[Quote]It does not say in scripture anywhere to my knowledge that 'Jesus is high priest forever after the order of the priesthood of Jesus' My point is that God named the new covenant priest/king priesthood, see Hebrews 7:11. Furthermore, he called all believers kings and priests[b] Rev 1:6.[/b] So if one is a believer and therefore a priest king one must be a priest king of the same order of priest kings as our high priest Jesus and that is the order of Melchisedec. So what do I mean by make believe priesthoods? Well obviously any order of priests who claim to be priests of God most high but call themselves by made up names rather than the God given name.[/Quote]If the claims are made based on the hebrew and revelation verses, then we have a problem. Jesus had nothing to do with both, even acts. If you cant substantiate it by the Gospel, there is no point even critiquing it. But then, if Melchisedec is at least strong as Jesus, then Jesus is not unique. Or do we have 2 parallels; Melchisedec and Melchisedec-like (Jesus) going? One dead if only for a short period of time according to NT while the one from OT is never considered dead? In reality which one is more authentic; the dead or the one that has not experienced death?



@Zikkyy (m): « #16 on: December 23, 2010, 10:45 AM »
[QUote]Quote from: mikeg on December 22, 2010, 06:58 PM
It does not say in scripture anywhere to my knowledge that 'Jesus is high priest forever after the order of the priesthood of Jesus'

It is also not written anywhere in the bible that Christ priesthood is ‘under’ the priesthood of Melchizedek. This is a simple matter, really. Saying Christ priesthood is according to/after the order of Melchizedek does not imply that Christ priesthood is categorized under the Melchizedek priesthood. It simply means that Christ priesthood is similar to that of Melchizedek. What makes Christ priesthood similar to Melchizedek’s? It’s because Melchizedek’s priesthood is considered to be eternal, just like Christ’s. Melchizedek priesthood is a type, a priesthood that is eternal, and Christ priesthood is categorized under this same type (i.e. the eternal priesthood and not Melchizedek priesthood). So, saying we are back to the order of Melchizedek could create a misleading impression, and that’s why I had issues with a portion of your post (below).[/Quote]But it is not written anywhere that the priesthood of Mechisedec is under that of Jesus, either! This is something worthy of you investigating, while you do not claim Melchisedec is important that Abraham, then, but you claim it is Jesus that is important than everyone? At best we have two melchisedec or two jesus[es] running. heck Melchisedec is not dead, according to your Bible. He didnt beg anyone. No one of his prayers failed to materialize. We cant say the same for jesus of NT. So how is Jesus more important, then? Yet we have The Almighty ABOVE everyone; Melchisedec, jesus and all.



[QUote]Quote from: mikeg on December 21, 2010, 04:57 AM
Furthermore, I would suggest that the Melchisedec priesthood is the only New Covenant (Christian) priesthood and the only priesthood of which, according to scripture, Christ is the head.

The new priesthood is not really Melchizedek priesthood, we are under a new type of priesthood (a type to which Melchizedek priesthood also belongs) with Christ as the high priest. You should also note that Christ priesthood is not a continuation (succession) of Melchizedek priesthood, it’s brand new. That’s why I say they are different.[/Quote]From your opinion, against mikeg's, we can say that Melchizedek's priesthood is not ended, though Jesus priesthood started, running as well. Dont we therefore have 2 major priesthoods running there; lessening the importance of Jesus in every respect?



@mikeg: « #17 on: December 23, 2010, 11:34 AM »
[Quote]OK let's take a breath, it is well known that Christ died for the sins of the world 1 Jo 2:2 . It is not well known that Christ became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey him called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec Hbr 5:9-10. Why not? Obviously because those of other priest orders don't preach it.[/Quote]the bold has no proof. no basis, except that it was said by who said it, taking it as a matter of fact.



[Quote]If the Holy Spirit thought it was necessary to use this title rather than say 'Jesus will eternally save all who obey him' I guess there is good reason.

Salvation is by grace through faith (by faith not through, if born a Jew) and faith of course is being assured of things unseen but related to us by the word of God. If our faith is based on anything other than the word of God it is simply make believe.

As for the man Melchizedek we are asked to consider how great this man was Hbr 7:4 something we are asked to do of no other person in the Bible including Jesus. Clearly this priesthood is very important to God.[/QUote]I see Hitler, with his faith entering Christian Paradise based on the bold. However others like Melchizedek may not, since they do not know Jesus or must have faith in him, obviously, for many reasons, a glaring one is that his priesthood is no less than that of Jesus.

@Yommyuk; [Quote]1 John 2:24-25
24 Therefore let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is the promise that He has promised us—eternal life.

Do you get the above?[/Quote]i got it; you donot get it. it is meant for those who were there to hear him. it must be those people there with from the beginning. not johnny come lately. not those who didnt hear it, like you and I. and according to the arguments of the christians, no everything he said was recorded. so we do not know all the truth. at best we know some truth. so you and i will be wrong to follow him and reject the another comforter (AS) who heard from God and repeated in the same manner that Jesus heard from God, in his time.

^^^^^^ enjoy the ride.

2 Samuel 13:12 >>

New International Version (©1984)
"Don't, my brother!" she said to him. "Don't force me. Such a thing should not be done in Israel! Don't do this wicked thing.



Despite the plea of the woman, her demented brother got her and wanted to marry her. that was rape. worse was incest, too.

@Seyibown: Your allusion to John 17 verse 24 as not saying that Jesus was denied his request, could you accept the below as the denial or you will give us the reason Jesus will say these verses in the day of Judgment? Why confessing that if his request was accepted?

Matthew Chapter 7

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

@ib guy: This is from your Bible. It shows good morals from your point of view?

2 Samuel 13:12 "Don't, my brother!" she said to him. "Don't force me. Such a thing should not be done in Israel! Don't do this wicked thing.


I guess he did after so much appeal from the the poor woman.

@Seyibrown: Just a snippet from the Bible, how Yahweh raised the esteem of women. Similar to Jashon to noo iyaale . . . . .


Leviticus 20:16 "'If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both the woman and the animal. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.


Numbers 5:31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.'"


Notice that the case of man and animal is not even mentioned. But woman and innocent animal here that just follow instinct are blame worthy.
So is the fact that in the Numbers verse, the woman only is blame worthy.

@toba; go sidon. you are better of in your trade. whatever trash the above is, it has biblical verses you guys cant refute.

seyibrown is making the weakest of points.

my wife bears her father's name yet. i am certain the first thing seyibrown lost in her marriage was her father's name right from wedding place the moment she said i do.

My sister Uplawal, thanks for the salaama. I think you should discuss the wudhu thing with your hubby. You are either going to help him get better, or he will help you get better.

both of you are shepherd in a way of each other.

^^^^^^^^Uplawal, you are being sentimental here. The above salaam was because I was responding to him for the first time. I have responded to you or responded to those who responded to you, in a way that I felt I was on your side.

I am not taking any side and I think you need to relax and quit being too emotional.

my argument with washing of hand, was that hand had to be washed first. I went to view the shia video and saw that the shia Imam washed his hands before he did anything else.

the shia imam to my surprise rinsed his mouth and cleaned his nose, which neither is in the Quran. If shia is going strictly by Quran, then where can i find the rinsing of mouth and the cleaning of the nose?

To then say that the feet are to be wiped as the Imam did, without explanation, that if you are up for the day, making your first wudhu you just wipe your feet as he did seems odd to me, especially when the sahaba (RA) who saw Muhammad (AS) and prayed with him for all the many years, into decades said different.

And as to washing of of the arms, I wash my hands with my arms, making it that I wash the hands more than any part of my body; it separately when I begin and then along with my forearms.

@Uplawal and LagosShia: Salaamualaukum wa Rahmatullah. May Allah not bring enmity within Islam that cant be mended. Amin.

kisskriss killed his own argument against Islam by his post #35. If the northern muslims dont think that the southern muslims are muslims, is that not enough evidence that the issue is not islam but ethnicity?

if the people are clicking on I like this button on the jos issue, can you tel me if all muslims are doing it and or if all northern muslims are doing it? I am a muslim from the south and I am not doing it. And I know enough northern muslims who are not doing it.

your hatred as a southern christian matches the worst hatred a northern muslim has in his heart. yet it is the northern muslim I will blame because he should know better. Allah does not permit him, the northern muslim to be unjust, even if he hates the behavior of a person; believer or not.

I am just wondering if the children born after the civil war ever asked their parents if anybody from the biafran side killed anyone from the federal troop side? There were many dead from the federal forces.

Did anyone expect the federal troops to lay down and play dead, especially when the governance of nigeria didnt want their brothers from the east of river niger to become a different country?

I disliked the war. But to think Biafra was innocent is actually being ignorant. You can get upset all you want, its time to turn a new leaf, slowly. Igbos have waxes better than they were before.

@Kisskriss: « #25 on: Today at 04:49:26 PM »
[Quote]@seadord or whatever u call your useless self, is it not obvious that hatred is being preached in mosque. can u tell us what JIHAD is all about,haven't u read your Quoran to see how your so-called prophet mohammed fought his way in Jedda/Mecca under d pretence of Jihad. If your prophet can laid such foundation,what do u expect from d silly and useless followers?It quite painful seeing my fellow countrymen being wasted everyday cos of their religion.[/Quote]And the worst that ever happened to Nigeria was the civil war. The leaders on both sides were christian fellas; one was Jack jacob Gowon. The other was Odumegu Ojukwu. Muslims at best were supporters. And both of them called on jesus. Imagine that!



[Quote]I schooled in islamic country called Bahrain as a christian but hide my identity as a christian so as to avoid being dealt with by my fellow university students who re all muslims but on one fateful day,we were all asked to recite Quran which everybody recited perfectly except me and at d end of d day,every students got 2 know i m a christian,o boy,u need 2 see d way i was treated all thru my stay in d university,i quickly picked my few things nd left.i paid and wasted my $2000 for d 6mths course cos i m a christian. u might be suprised y i was there in d first place,i was there to learn arabic as linguistic graduate.[/Quote]You are a hypocrite. Why wouldnt you let them know that you are a christian from the get go? It was your hideous quality that finally caught up to you. You could have survived the place as a christian if you had been honest when you apply, letting them know your intention. Jesus didnt help you there I imagine.

@LagosShia: « #119 on: Today at 12:01:27 PM »
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@LagosShia: You asked for Ayah of forgiveness for Muhajiruun (RA). Here is one from Surah Tawbah (Verse 117)

But it covers the prophet (AS), the Ansar (RA).

9: 117: Allah has already forgiven the Prophet and the Muhajireen and the Ansar who followed him in the hour of difficulty after the hearts of a party of them had almost inclined [to doubt], and then He forgave them. Indeed, He was to them Kind and Merciful.

9:118: And [He also forgave] the three who were left behind [and regretted their error] to the point that the earth closed in on them in spite of its vastness and their souls confined them and they were certain that there is no refuge from Allah except in Him. Then He turned to them so they could repent. Indeed, Allah is the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful.

please do not take those verses out of context.those verses refer to particular incidents.and they also vindicate the muslims in the eyes of the kuffar.they do not however refer to the incidents and crimes committed against the Ahlul-Bayt.[/Quote]Which is greater and when wrong it is the Party that can punish; Allah or the Ahlul Bayt? If Allah says all sins are forgiven, then why are you not letting down on the Ahlul Bayt? Even the sin of Shirk is forgiven when a person repents. I dont understand how it is possible to carry Ahlul Bayt beyond shirk? May Allah guide all of us. Amin. He even said He forgave the messenger (AS). Now tell me what sin the messenger committed which he was forgiven by that verse? Tell me which sin[s] the Muhajiruun and and Ansaru (RA) committed needing the same verse to forgive them? Please be specific. At least I can talk to you because we are at least muslims, though your iman is much greater than mine. Perchance, I will learn alot from you. By the way, Allah also cleanse the muslims by mere collection of zakat. It is not the ahlul bayt alone that were cleansed. A man who forgives everyone that offended him before retired to bed was reported to be a man that is in Paradise by Muhammad (AS). Bilal bin Rabah (RA), according to you was not on the side of Ali bin Abi Talib (RA). But Muhammad in his Isra wa Miraj said he say Bilal Rabah in Paradise. This and many others refute placing blames on those who do not support Ali and making the disagreement worthy of hellfire against those who were not on the side of Ali. I wonder why you will even accept that the wife of your prophet will end up in hell? May Allah guide our hearts. Amin.



[Quote]i would also want to draw your attention that a verse in the same chapter says:slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.are you saying we should go to the streets and start killing people that are not muslims?or is that the verse refering to a certain group of disbelievers that have offended and killed the muslims?lets take things in their context and have proper understanding through knowledge.[/Quote]This verse has nothing to do with the verse that I quoted. I also had earlier this week or last quoted verses and then a hadith that supports the view that the people who fought in Badr were forgiven of all their sins, including future sins. This was the reason Hatib (RA) was not killed for spying for the Makkans.
Further, a mere fast on the day of Arafat is a means of forgiving the sin[s] of the future for 1 year. Imagine the actual battle of Badr should be less! Yet even in our present day, there are many events tat you can be involved in that will equal in value. You are my imam. But there is no imam that knows everything. The only one who came close told us that the meaning of Alif Laaam Miiim of Surah Baqarah and others like it are known to Allah, Alone.

@Azharuddin: My brother salamualaykum wa Rahmatullah.
I will only improve myself in this religion.

I have family that look up to me to improve their religion.

I know that it doesnt apply to the heart to wipe only the top of the foot.

Imagine if you lost your wudu when you are barefooted! You wake up from sleep in the night to make tahajjud.

you clean everywhere, even rinse the moth and clean the nose (neither is in the Quran).

then you wipe a section of the barefoot! I wonder why Muhammad (AS) washed his whole foot?

How do you follow him in one thing and reject him in another?

About 15 years ago, I met one of the Shia sheikh from Egypt. Nice man Tariq Salah was. We fasted together, and many of the arabs in his community thought I am going to be a shia.

One day we spoke about muta, which I was completely against, because in itself is Zina. He said that Allah allowed it, and Muhammad (AS) could not prevent it from happening. When I told him to therefore explain verse 25 of Surah Nisaa because he was saying to me that the "no blame on you of what you mutually agreed upon" in verse 24 above it allows it. Another shia from Virginia was telling me that verse 25 was just below 24 and it could not have abrogated it. My answer which was not much was that there was no proof that they were revealed together. And even if they were, 25 gave a fuller measure to 24, banning such a weakness in sexual gratification which was on going at that time.

Muhammad (AS) is who is my first example. Any other who fails to follow him in any particular issue, I will not follow him. I will stick with Muhammad (AS) till the end of my life. I hope its a long life yet, because I have plenty to do in africa. We have to try to reverse the trend of losing muslims to Kufr for whatever reason. This is my priority, hoping that we can find the means by Allah to effectuate it.

@LagosShia: « #52 on: Today at 11:55:30 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 05:23:43 AM
@LagosShia: « #41 on: Yesterday at 10:41:58 PM »May Allah not make me what you said I am. Amin. I didnt put words into your mouth and twist anything. If you assumed that was my view, then its a misunderstanding. I am sure that my intention is not what you say of me and I didnt come across like so. If you are going to teach, teach like Musa (AS), for he was better than you, and the one he was sent to was worse than me.

Ok.may Allah guide us.

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if a 40 year old is talking to a mere boy of 20, can you imagine the impression he will have over him? This was what I was expressing in my statement that you are probably at an advantage over them because of the age difference. Or are a mere baligh, too? Am sure if a 70 year old grandfather is telling you about life, he will probably reduce you to a youth, unless if a person lack manners, then one can do whatever he wants.

The eldest of them is older than me or about my own age.i am not in my 40s.am a young man too.please lets don’t assume.[/Quote]I pray that you will learn what is good in Islam during the course of your lifetime. Amin. No one wants to be among the people who the Ayah of Quran where the messenger says to Allah "Oh my Lord they abandon this Quran . . . .".



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Alhamdulillah that we had forebearers in Islam, who say the prophet (AS) performed wudhu, which they copied from him. They were the sahabah, males and females of them (RA). It was Muhammad (AS) who was the authority in Islam among humans. Then next were his companions (RA). These were the people who transmitted the Sunnah of Muhammad (AS) to us, reaching us today in our present generation.

[b]Well,that is the point of contention.we believe in the farewell pilgrimage and on several occassions the Prophet declared that when he left we should follow the Quran and the Ahlul-Bayt and Imam Ali being the first among the lead.we don’t take the sunnah from any sahaba,except they compliment and accept the lead of the Ahlul-Bayt.there are sahaba we love and listen to like Salman al-Farisi,al-Miqdad,Abu Dhar and Ammar Ibn Yasser (who was killed by Muawiya’s forces in the battle of Siffeen,when Ammar was on the side of Imam Ali).you should read about Hadith al-Thaqalain.even the Quran when read and understood tells us we should follow Allah,the Messenger and “those who give zakat while they prostrate”.[/b]that verse refers to Imam Ali (as).he was the one in whose honor that verse was reveal.you can see that from that verse the Wilayah of Ali is alongside that of Allah and the Prophet.in another verse,called the verse of Ulil-Amr,or the “verse of those who have authority”,this verse tells use to “obey Allah and His messenger and those who have authority”.Hitler and Pharoah had authority,would you obey them?likewise Yazeed had authority but Imam Hussain did not obey him.therefore we believe those we should obey that have authority are particular individuals that Allah Himself have chosen and purified as in the verse 33:33.these particular individuals are the 12 Imams from the Ahlul-Bayt.[/Quote]Allah purified not only Fatima (AS) among the women, but the wives (RA) of the Messenger (AS), too. I am a married man. I remembered when my eldest child was born. I saw him being wheeled out on the way to the nursery. The nurse said you must be his father. I simply asked where his mother was without looking at him, because to me my wife was a companion, a woman I knew already while I am yet to acquit myself with the infant then. Allah says in Surah taubah verse 117 that the Messenger (AS) and the Muhajjiruun and the Ansaru are already forgiven. There is no other special place that the messenger (AS) was singled out for future forgiveness, yet we know that in Surah Ta Ha, Allah says of him to worship not all night long, but part of it. We know that Aisha (RA) said of the prophet that all your sins have been forgiven even that of the future. Doesnt the Battle of Badr privilege applies to the sahaba, who were the forerunners? They were there before any tabi in. They spent their wealth and self. They gave all. Muhammad (AS) called Abu Bakr "siddiq". Can we call him any less and be just? I don t worship Muhammad (AS). He is my prophet. A human like me. All things that he did worthy of emulation were from Allah. When he made mistakes, like shorten of salah Asr, it was from Allah, also so that we can learn.



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My dear brother LagosShia, since Iran is mostly shia, and am sure you agree with their stoning of women or men who performed Illegal sexual acts and got guilty verdict. As I now want you to show me such a punishment of stoning in the Quran, except it is not there, but it was the messenger who gave such a ruling, as permitted by Allah (SWT).

I think you should have known me by now.i am not biased.i think for myself.i don’t agree with anyone stonning anyone to death whether that country is majority shia or not.that is really cruel.i read and have a head to use and think.that is me for you.[/Quote]For me, stoning is practical. My reason for that is that a spouse is betrayed in the worst way, and the emotion is raw. There should not be the same punishment for a spouse who get caught in the act, as that of the unmarried. From your statement, it seems that shia does not actually capture the total essence of Islam, or Muhammad (AS) who permitted the stoning, and even judge the jews of Madina to it? Or are you saying that it was allowed, but you just dont like it?



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Now the washing of the hands as you stated is the washing of the forearms. Those who say Muhammad (AS) performed Wudhu had given us hadith and none indicated that the washing of the hands are to be combo of finger tips all the way to the elbow. If that is the case, do you wash your hands all the way to the elbow before you wash your face or do you not wash your hands after getting out of the bathroom, but use your dirty hands unwashed or you wash your hands as in ordinary cleaning and you say Bismillah and then start wudhu washing your face, as it is written in the Quran, then your hands all the way to the elbow? How do you do it, sheikh? I want to learn. Maybe you are correct. But I want you to explain to me.

I tried looking for the book called “introduction to islam”.the book introduces islam from the shia perspective but I could not find it online.i have a hard copy with me.i am going to take time and copy  from it the words on how to do wudu.[/Quote]Anything that was not from Muhammad (AS), I reject it. If Muhammad (AS) did not permit it, predicting it to happen, if it didnt happen while he was alive. Wudhu is something that he performed.



[Quote]WUDU:
It means (i) washing of face from forehead to chin and from ear to ear (ii) washing of hands from the elbow to the tips of the fingers,and (iii) to rub once from scalp upto the beginning of the forehead,by the right hand,and (iv) to rub from the tip of the toes to the ankle with respective hands.

In additiona,it is usual and is better to first wash the hands up to the wrists twice.then gargle three times.thereafter,wash both the nostrils three times.then taking water in the right hand and express the intention i.e. “Niyyat” .

When I am doing wudu,this is what I do:
1.)   I have the niyyat in my heart that I am doing wudu.i can also express it with words.
2.)   I wash my hands upto the wrists twice starting with the right hand then the left.
3.)   I put water into my mouth and rinse thrice (this is mustahab)
4.)   I wash my nostrils three times (this is also mustahab) and likewise the ears (is also mustahab)
5.)   I wash my face from the forehead to the chin and from side to side bordering the ears.
6.)   I go back to my hands and wash starting from the elbow down to my fingers (start with right hand)
7.)   I use my palm to rub my head from the scalp to the forehead
8.)   I rub my feet with right hand for right foot and left hand for left foot.i rubs from the toes to the ankle,up to the back heel.
Then I say shahada and am off to do my sala

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I wipe my head all the time. I wipe the top of my feet if I wore feet covering when I lost my wudhu which I am renewing. I wash my feet when I make wudhu with showering combination. There is no way you can get your whole feet including ankle completely covered with Wudhu water if you "WIPE" as you said. The following is a hadith about Wudhu. May Allah give us guidance Amin. muttaqun.com/wudu.html - Cached - Similar *

It is possible for the water to cover everywhere you touch when wiping.i have told you that wiping on the surface of a cloth when doing wudu is not proper.[/Quote]Wiping is a gesture, since Muhammad is the first to be followed, his washing and wiping when necessary must be observed. Kuff wearing preserve the cleanliness of the feet, the reason it is permissible to wipe over it.



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Once the Prophet remained behind us in a journey. He joined us while we were performing ablution for the prayer which was over-due. We were just passing wet hands over our feet (and not washing them properly) so the Prophet addressed us in a loud voice and said twice or thrice: "Save your heels from the fire." [Bukhari 1:164, Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr]
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", and then he washed his feet up to the ankles." [Bukhari 1.186, narrated Amr]

The washing of the feet is necessary when your feet are dirty.then you must dry them and wipe them when doing wudu.the washing itself of the feet is not part of the wudu.the wiping is.the hadith above can only be true,if they were washing to clean their feet and they later wiped.other than that if the hadith is replacing washing with wiping,then it is going against what the Quran says.[/Quote]And Muhammad (AS) performed it just like it was stated on top. Is there a better man in Islam than Muhammad (AS)? He was the one given the Quran. He knew the meaning best among humans. He told us the number of rakah for subh salah. But its not in the Quran. To observe the religion of Islam without paying attention to how the one who was told to teach it observed it, is a mistake. There is no tashahuud in the Quran.



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And the muslims wear Kuff (Leather socks). There is nothing that invalidate a wudhu because you wipe over a covered feet. The same wiping that you are saying is the only acceptable form of making the feet part okay in wudhu! Yet you agree that stoning that is not in Quran is alright in Zina or are you against the Iranian Shia in this? I have read Hadith where the messenger (AS) stated that its okay to wear shoes (Since he wore shoes in salah, except the time the bottom of his shoes had filth), to be different from yahuud who wear no shoes in their place of prayer.

I have stated I am against stonning.if you want to wear shoes according to the above hadith,then you have to buy a new pair of shoe each time you want to pray with shoes.also I don’t buy that hadith because when we go to the mosque we take off our shoes.when we do hajj,we take offf our shoe.this has nothing to do with yahuud.in the Quran we read that Allah ordered Prophet Musa (as) to take off his shoe because he was in the holy valley of Tuwa.taking off your shoe is also respect.

As for doing wudu on your socks,that is not wudu.your socks does not pray.when you die,you will not take that socks with you.you do wudu on your feet and water must touch your skin.[/Quote]Above you argued that I buy a new pair of shoes, while Muhammad prayed more times in his shoes than not in them. But then you said I can use my socks because they do not pray. Doesnt the tree bow to its Lord, the same Lord I'm going to make salah to? Are my socks not from something from this earth; cotton from trees, or some earthy fiber like polyester? Everything prays to Allah, except man and jinn which are given freewill, to do willingly or not do it. Allah says in Surah Maryam that the earth almost wish to swallow things up for they said evil things that Allah has a son. My dear brother, may Allah keep you and make you big, everything obeys Allah except man and jinn because of freewill. I am certain that as you get older, your viewpoint will get more matured. I did not insult you either.

@LagosShia: It seems you have no knack for discussion, but yet you wanna teach people. The two must go hand in hand.

I am not a shia and I am not a sunni either. Or for that matter any hyphenated muslim.


The shia Imam in the video you recommended rinsed his mouth and sniffed his nose. Neither of these are in the Quran. I asked myself and I am asking you here and now, why chose to do these two, but without a pair of socks on merely wipe a small section of the foot, leaving the rest dry as a bone?

There was nothing called shia in the time of the messenger (AS), the reason I accept the saying of those who were companions (RA) rather than shia; a group at best that started as Tabi in (ra).


You cant proof to me that Ali ibn Abi Talib made a wudhu different from Abu Bakr. Or Umar. Or Uthman.

You cant tell me that the Shia imam in your video made the exact wudhu as the messenger (AS), considering that the shia imam is not wearing a beard? Or did the messenger did not wear beard, too?

@Olaadegbu: You ony said "Hmm".

Cant you advise your sister in christ with a cartoon that looking at the opposite sex is a no no?

Whats she doing going to boyfriend's home?

Christians are hypocrites. Whats in the Bible is ignored when they want it. They twist it to justify their position when it suit them.


If the ever agree with the text, they exaggerate its meaning. Darn hypocrites.

My sister, my muslim advise to you is that you may not like what the woman is doing, but God put her in the place to at least act as a barrier for you against your anxious boyfriend.

You should appreciate the woman for her and her children being there to prevent the honeysucker from sucking up all the honey before he purchased a single jar.


Thats my take. You people are pretenders. None of your remembered your bible. How you are advising her became a matter of street observation without "Scripture". What happened to your scripture that is supposed to be used for correcting, reproving, etc? Throw in a cartoon, man. Or you no get cartoon for this humdinger? Its a big whopper. The Bible has no answer, the reason Islam serves the greater purpose; Dont come close to fornication.

Leave a man and a woman who fancy each other together is like leaving a hungry goat unrestricted in a corn barn. Something will be consumed.