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ayoola27:
I was only showing his hypocrisy...Don't quote me wrong

I see what you're doing.

But in the process of doing that, you also showed that you know that Europeans did document the use of Yoruba language as lingua-franca in Benin Kingdom.

Cheers!

Edeyoung:
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Thank you gregyboy, for proving my point that the Edos/Binis truly worship Yoruba deities -- e.g. Olokun among others.

Please keep more proofs coming. Thank you, thank you!


cc: nisai

Edeyoung:
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TAO11, gregyboy, MetaPhysical, Olu317

Thank you gregyboy, for proving my point that the Edos/Binis truly worship the indigenous Yoruba deity -- Olokun, among other indigenous Yoruba deities.

Please keep more of the proofs coming. Thank you, thank you!


cc: BabaRamota1980, MetaPhysical

ayoola27:
So now..u don't believe when Europeans wrote that Africans were already involved in slave trade b4 their coming but u believe that Benin pple speak Yoruba in their kingdom that the same Europeans wrote about ...

Lol.

Thought I should highlight the fact that YOU KNOW that the French Father who visited Benin Kingdom in 1640 DID INDEED DOCUMENT the fact that the lingua-franca of Benin Kingdom is the Yoruba language.

Listen again to your statement which proves that you know this:

"... Benin people speak Yoruba in their kingdom ... the same Europeans wrote about [it]".

Cheers!

MetaPhysical:
If you didnt want a debunk, why did you open the thread?

Bring an independent, non-edo source for this info on Olokun.
...and please hurry up!

I wonder oo!

In fact, he can bring Edo author(s) if he likes, but provided they are academics in the relevant field, and their works are peer-reviewed.

davidnazee:
(1) Lilliput all this foolish narratives you keep throwing about doesn't sell.
I never potrayed Yoruba as one kingdom ruled by one ruler but rather as one race conquered (kingdom by kingdom, settlements by settlements) and ruled by Benin Kingdom for over 500years. If you will say the name of your tiny kingdom of origin I may find a detailed account of Benin conquest of your kingdom.

You can deny and glorify (your defeat) Dahomey, Igala and Nupe conquests of your ancestors.. History will not deny it lol..


(2) As for clothing, Benin is known to have started production of wool clothings in this region, which they exported in bulk into Yorubalands clothing your ancestors.. Before Benin cloths came your ancestors were using palm leaves for cloth, Benin taught your ancestors textile clothing..
Ijebu came into the trade much later..

(1) I have demonstrably debunked your empty claim and blatant lies about Dahomey, Nupe, Igala, and your self-deluded joke of Benin rule.

No wonder all you could do is to keep repeating the same empty self-deluding jokes without any historical substantiation.

Wait, is it the same Benin Kingdom which was slaughtered for fun by Ibadan, by Ilesa, by Owo, by Otun-Ekiti, by Nupe, by Igbo, etc., and whose King was beheaded by Isan?? Or is there another Benin Kingdom??

(2) I have demonstrated with evidence how men and women in your 2by2 Kingdom roamed stark n@ked.

So, I'm not sure why you're still here clutching at straws.

In case, you're partially amnesiac, refer to the link below for a reminder of that demonstration:

https://www.nairaland.com/5894619/benin-influence-yorubas/1#90413189


Moreover, your ancestors produced no cloth. No wonder, your King regulated cloth wearing.

On the contrary, it was Ife, Oyo, Ijebu, Ekiti, Akoko, Igbomina, Iyagba, etc. who produced some of the clothes that were sold to your fore-parents in order to enable them cover their swinging dicks and boobs and also re-sell.

See quote below as well as attached.

"Among the Ekiti, Akoko and Igbomina, the spinning, dyeing and weaving of cotton was perhaps the most important industry of the women.* The strips of their cloths [i.e. the Ekiti’s, the Akoko’s, and the Ignomina’s, cloths] are much wider than the strips of the characteristic Oyo cloths ... .Theirs [i.e. the Akoko’s, the Ekiti’s, and the Igbomina’s] are of three types - the two-strip type (each strip being about two yards long and about one yard wide) called ikeji , the three-strip and four-strip types called iketa and ikerin respectively, ... .The ikeji was usually made for home consumption, while the iketa and ikerin were essentially meant for sale. In some parts, the ikerin is still referred to as aso-Adó - meaning 'Benin cloth' or 'cloth for Benin'."

Refer to gregyboy, aka Edeyoung, for reference.

babtoundey:
Ki ni baba n so bayii??

Aitete mole, ole n moloko.

Hahaha! I swear!

Edeyoung:
[s]She keep quoting me, you wasting your time bro.... My scrrenshot have adressed it already all this bull talk you given is irrelevant



Lol, you are so eager to debunk me bro take a chill[/s]

It's not about you, gregyboy. It's about lies. Any where I see lies, I attack and debunk.

See link below to be reminded of how I've debunked and rubbished your Edo blog screenshots.

https://www.nairaland.com/5910322/olokun-worship-indigenous-benin-other/1#90453243

gregyboy:
Tao11 is busy matching two different account i guess she is just one step to full time madness

No amount of damage control can remedy the damage.

Forget it, you've already been exposed to the whole world as someone with bipolar disorder.

gregyboy:
You guys are lost trying to find your history in the past that never existed.....

Tell why i should believe yoruba own account of ownership of olokun against the scrrenshot edeyoung gave

Hahaha! To think this is coming from someone who doesn't know where the Edos/Binis originated from.

You, particularly, have suggested different roots for your ancestors.

Different roots/origin for the Edos such as: Nupe, Igala, Itsekiri, Udo, and even Birnin-Kebbi.

Having said that, stop passing off screenshots from your Edo blogs as academic materials.

Even your Edo blog screenshot (as junk as it obviously is) dared not identify "Olokun" as originating ab-initio from the Binis.

Notice that all your brothers and sister whom you called upon for help did not show up.

They've all actually forsaken you to continue your back and forth clown-jumping from "Edeyoung" to "gregyboy".

My question to you, which you're afraid of addressing, still remains as follows:

How come your supposed deity has a foreign name if it was indeed indigenously Edo?

What happened to its supposed indigenous Edo name?

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--- TAO-Webster Dictionary for Edo Dummies ---


---------------------------------- olokun --------------------------------
noun

o.lo.kun | /əʊ'ləʊku:n/

Definition
: an indigenous Yoruba deity of the sea, and of wealth in general

History
: the worship of Olokun was introduced to some neighbouring non-Yoruba regions

for example, the worship of Olokun was introduced to the Edo regions by the Itsekiri-Yoruba sub-group

Etymology
: Yoruba olu-okun sea lord, from olu the principal one + okun sea

See Also
: the alternative Yoruba name is umale-okun sea spirit, from umale primordial spirit + okun sea

Synonyms

noun imale-okun, umole-okun, imole-okun
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

cc: BabaRamota1980, MetaPhysical

babtoundey:
He must surely be. They sound and think alike.

See these links where I exposed him:

(1) https://www.nairaland.com/5846948/benin-yoruba-speaking-empire/12#90427617

(2) https://www.nairaland.com/5846948/benin-yoruba-speaking-empire/12#90441591


Moreover, he has admitted that the name "Olokun" is absolutely absent in the Edo's tongue.

babtoundey:
He will soon come to tell you Olokun is shining okun or red okun (after all red is sacred in Edo culture). He and gregboy think alike. awkward.

Hahahaha! He is the same person as gregyboy I have exposed him already.

See link where I first exposed him:

https://www.nairaland.com/5846948/benin-yoruba-speaking-empire/12#90427617

Edeyoung:
The information on this thread has already been passed the others are comment of hate which are not relevant

A deity which you have absolutely no name for in your native tongue was certainly imposed on you by others -- 100%.

"Olokun" was introduced to the Edo people by your closest Yoruba neighbours -- The Itsekiris.

"Olokun" [from the Yoruba words "Olu-Okun" -- "Lord of the Sea"] is a Yoruba deity with a Yoruba name.

We also alternatively call it by the name: "Umale-Okun", or "Imale-Okun", or Umole-Okun, or "Imole-Okun"; meaning "Spirit of the Sea".

All these are pure Yoruba words. Stop attaching screenshots from Edo blogs and fraudulently passing them off as academic materials.

cc: BabaRamota1980, MetaPhysical

gregyboy:
Guy it's a transgendered not just a bro....
She gets cold feet when she hear my name and she also feels so very insecure when she is being intellectually attacked by anyone and the first person she suspect is me.....


Just imagine me who refused to have any comment with her go ahead to create another account to do the opposite, like i don get it

Gayboy aka Edeyoung, stop clowning you've been exposed beyond damage control.

(1) https://www.nairaland.com/5846948/benin-yoruba-speaking-empire/12#90427617

(2) https://www.nairaland.com/5846948/benin-yoruba-speaking-empire/12#90441591

More Evidence:

After logging out from "Edeyoung" and then logging in with "gregyboy", you tried "Modifying" your "Edeyoung comment".

But you weren't quick to realize that you're now "gregyboy", so you ended up "Quoting" your "Edeyoung comment".

See attached! Lol.

People with multiple Nairaland accounts can relate to this mistake.

I have multiple accounts so I know what I'm talking about.

NB: I've always made it clear from the get go that those multiple accounts were mine.

They are: TAO11, TAO12, OmoOlofin and YauYamba. They were created for spamnot purposes, and I've always made this clear anyways.


cc: MetaPhysical

You weren't even smart enough to use two devices. Lol ... Now, I look forward to a change.

And right after that comment, as I expected, he sheepishly complied. See attached.

ROTFLMAO!

He's so desperate to deceive, forgetting that I was setting him up.

This reminds me of the proverbial story of the man who feigned death, and then suddenly raises up one hand because he heard someone (who suspected foul play) saying that dead people normally have one hand raised up.

gregyboy:
You're running wild

Edeyoung:
She is

Forget it, you've been busted!

https://www.nairaland.com/5846948/benin-yoruba-speaking-empire/12#90427617

gregyboy:
Tao11 is barking like a female that was rape by a dog..... Always finds ways to call my name out in all her misery...... I know one day she will be put in chains straight to uselu psychiatric hospital

Anyway edeyoung has been doing great we edos should imitate him by creating threads in adressing our history we wont let slaves called yorubas still our history from us......

We practice our traditional worship they call us witch, we say our traditional worship are indigenous they call us thieves, we say we are benins they say no you can't be, why claim benin when you grew up in igbaraOke...lol
In the mist of thier anger we will find peace....
Olu317, MetaPhysical, BabaRamota1980, TAO12

As expected, I knew you were set to clown.

Wait! Why does Edeyoung have to log out for you to log in??

You weren't even smart enough to use two devices. Lol ... Now, I look forward to a change.

You've been exposed in details at the following link:

https://www.nairaland.com/5846948/benin-yoruba-speaking-empire/12#90427617

You've logged out from your Edeyoung account at about 12:53 PM and then logged in with your gregyboy account at about 1:01 PM.

Funny young-boy is ready to clown. Go ahead!

Edeyoung:
[s]You're full of emotions....
Try and cool off bro[/s]

Did you just break your promise of never replying??

Oh I see what you mean.

You meant that I have squeezed you so hard that you've exhausted your lie-bank.

Edeyoung:
[s]I would have answered you... But you called me gregyboy so bye.....[/s]

Hahaha! Copout!

You already ran away from me, long ago, under your gregyboy account.

I knew it was only a question of time before you run away from me under your new Edeyoung account.

Guess what, I know you're always terrified whenever I am around. Others know this too.

BabaRamota1980:
Which includes forbidding them, at all ages, to wear clothes until he has given permission. If you see a 30yr old man or woman clothed, it is so because Omo Oba told them they can cover up, otherwise they dare not appear in public clothed.

Cc
TAO12

Hahaha! So true!

Just so you're aware, Edeyoung and gregyboy are one and the same person.

I'm just putting this out there just so you are aware.

I've ccied you along in the posts where I exposed him.

Edeyoung:
And if you keep identifying me as gregyboy then i will have no choice than to stop having any conversation with you

Edeyoung:
Bro how do you have time fo do all this and still not make any sense am just baffled ok am gonna add gregyboy to my mention.... I know if i had included him at first you will still go ahead and find it fishy Bro you see. Pained by the guy

You still went on to shoot and expose yourself further with the bolded.

It's psychological! You're just not smart enough to realize it.

In your plastic mind you were trying to dissociate the two monikers from each other (as much as you can) lest someone suddenly initiate the possibility of a connection between the two.

But little did you realize that repeatedly keeping them away from each other (even when they normally shouldn't) is all the evidence needed to expose you to be the same person behind Edeyoung and gregyboy.

Edeyoung:
(1) Bro the etymology of a word dont usually bring out the ownership of a thing....
Bro we colonized you bro we gave you all our gods to worship just like the British gave us Christianity as a worship, the person who made those statements has no reason to be biased he still bore is yoruba name despite being a benin man, you guys have been trying to claim benins as Yorubas since inception see the way the yorubas reacted when she identified herself as benins


(2) The ancestral home of olukun worship is at oronigbe in benin

Shut up and stop regurgitating mouth-to-mouth Edo nonsense from your Edo blogs.

In case you're unsure, I didn't read your Edo blog screenshot for obvious reasons.

"Olokun" (among other deities) was indigenous to you, yet their names have to come from the Yorubas.

This is more like an Edo ret@rd saying: "Samudradeva" is originally a Benin god -- don't worry about the Indian name that we call it.

What happened to their supposed original Edo names??

Hmmm ... I have an idea. The Yorubas suddenly stopped you from using "your own" Edo names for "your own" Edo gods.

Isn't God wonderful??

What other kind of reasoning is expected from gregyboy than this??


(2) No that's false, the ancestral home of Olokun as set up by the Itsekiris (Yoruba people), for all the non-Yorubas of the region, is found outside Benin -- at Ughoton precisely.

Go do your field work. Ask your Yoruba masters at the Benin palace. Hopefully they don't behead you for disturbing peace at the palace.

Edeyoung:
Those skulls are that of the yoruba slaves in benin like i have always maintained...... Sacrificing the yorubas as slaves to our gods was ideal, We didnt use those skulls to make festish money.... Like you all are doing.....



What is the importance of the image you uploaded there. Bro? is it for me to see more reasons to bash your tribe, bro no one denied the fact benin did human sacrifice with the heads of the yoruba people but bringing it to my face, when you know it will turn to favour my stance in insulting you.... Simply shows your act of despiration


You need a check up bro, you complain i was gregyboy because i brought an article against me while you simoly doing thesame


Bro you need sleep

Shut up slave boy. All the Edos subjects whom the Benin King ruled over are known as the Oba's slaves.

We read this from H.L. Roth(1903), p.103. as follows:

"Lieut. King found that “the king can sell his subjects when convicted of crime, or when they have incurred his displeasure." The royal right of abuse seems to have survived to the last days, for Gallwey (p. 129) mentions that “the Benin people are free, but are treated as slaves by the king, the title of king's slave being considered an honour." We have seen above that for different reasons the king claimed male children, widows and slaves belonging to deceased subjects; he could hardly get much more, so that the mass of the people were practically slaves to the king, and those who were not to the king were so to their chiefs."

It therefore becomes clear that the Edo subjects whom our Yoruba King of Benin ruled over are all the king's slaves whom he can do anything with as he pleases.

I wonder why he will regard them as his slaves if they were his people in the first place. Food for thought.

In sum, you fore-parents' heads were sacrificed to the Yoruba gods in Benin because your Edo fore-parents are no more than slaves to the Yoruba Kings of Benin.

Edeyoung:
(1) Tribalism on yorubas against benis didnt start today........

Cc
Davidnazee valirex samuk Sarah20A ghostwon Binikingdowm

(2) Olokun is indigenous to benin

(1) Gayboy, stop your fraud of screenshoting Edo blogs and fraudulently passing them off as academic materials.

(2) Your claim that the deity "Olokun" is indigenous to Benin is just as absurd as claiming that "Samudradeva" (the Indian deity) is indigenous to Benin.

Just as the words "Olokun" and "Samudradeva" have absolutely no meaning in your Edo language, they therefore can never possibly be indigenous to Benin.

The former (Olokun) is indigenous to Yoruba, and the latter (Samudradeva) is indigenous to India.

I challenge you to break down the word "Olokun" into its components parts and give the Edo
analysis of each component (if possible).

cc: BabaRamota1980, MetaPhysical

Edo skull mining didn't start today.

cc: BabaRamota1980, MetaPhysical,



Edeyoung

Hahaha!

Gregyboy being agitated and on the defensive for being exposed to be one and the same person as Edeyoung. lmao!

Moving on, your claim that the deity "Olokun" is indigenous to Benin is just as absurd as claiming that "Samudradeva" (the Indian deity) is indigenous to Benin.

Considering thaf the words "Olokun" and "Samudradeva" have absolutely no meaning in your Edo language, they therefore can never possibly be indigenous to Benin.

The former (Olokun) is indigenous to Yoruba, and the latter (Samudradeva) is indigenous to India.

I challenge you to break down the word "Olokun" into its components parts and then give the Edo analysis of each component (if any).

cc: BabaRamota1980, MetaPhysical

Edeyoung:
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Gregyboy, aka Edeyoung, you've already been exposed on this.

Stop screenshoting from Edo blogs and passing them off as academic materials.

See link below for where you've been exposed in this regard:

https://www.nairaland.com/5894619/benin-influence-yorubas#90352242

Edeyoung:
She be mumu......

Stop replying to yourself. Stop clowning.

You've been exposed already!

MetaPhysical:


Before I opened this post I looked in the section and see about 4 or 5 different threads all pumping false superiority for Edo. All opened by edeyoung. I said ooh, this is gregyboy! Then i opened this post and you confirmed it!

You've been shooting them down and destroying them. What do you expect? Night flyers are dodging you.

I knew all along that it was him. I was simply playing along and allowing him write more responses in order to give me enough data to work with.

See how I caught him in my preceding comment.

gregyboy:
(1) She is going nut..... I decided to stay clear and obaserve behind, but she still find away to call my name......

(2) She is Hot for me..... But aint going in that stinking pussy i rather spend the rest of my life in jail

(1) You are a very dumb fellow and you haven't denied it at anytime.

See, I am professionally trained to spot trends and congruence in both qualitative and quantitative data or information.

So, it was a piece of cake, and a walk over, for me to fish you out as one and the same person as Edeyoung.

The funny thing is that despite your hasty reply to your own comment, you still give yourself away in many ways.

The next time you want to pretend to be someone else from another moniker, you must not forget to factor in the following facts:

(A) The fact that each individual have their own unique argumentation style, such as your distinctively foolish argumentation.

For example, just like you do as gregyboy you also attached a screenshot that refutes your own position in the hope that no one will notice.

See link below for how I exposed that:

https://www.nairaland.com/5846948/benin-yoruba-speaking-empire/11#90427145

(B) The fact that each individual have their own unique "response bank" from which they choose their specific reply to specific contentions.

(C) The fact that each individual have their own unique writting style such as your repeated abnormal use of paragraphs as well as ellipses [i.e., "................."], and your ocassional distinctive difficulty of stringing words together to form a coherent thought.

(D) The fact that each individual unintentionally succumbs to some natural psychological dynamics.

(i) This particular factor played out when you commented with your "Edeyoung" account but failed to cc/mention your "gregyboy" account when ccing/mentioning your Edo lying colleagues.

You simply succumbed unintentionally to the default that you are one and the same person, and as such you naturally didn't realize the need to cc/mention yourself among others you mentioned. Lol.

See attachment below for the comment I am referring to here.

(ii) This psychological factor also played out when you went on to another thread using your "gregyboy" moniker to advertize "Edeyoung's" thread.

You whined and ranted that the Yorubas are avoiding "Edeyoung's" thread. You gave yourself away there too, as such adverts of your dead threads are uniquely typical of you and you alone.

PS: It's not my first time to fish out people like you. I once fished out your brother "Prolog" when he was hiding under the moniker "Ghostwon". He was obviously so shocked that he subsequently came out of hiding and surrendered.


(2) Listen gayboy, stop veiling your sexual identity and orientation. I have already exposed you on that beyond any remedy.

Also, the fact that you are always quick to choose jail term over freedom is very telling.

It appears you're already anticipating the fact that the provisons of the Nigeria "Same Sex Marriage (Prohibition) Act" of 2013 will eventually catch up with you sooner or later.

cc: BabaRamota1980, MetaPhysical, Babtoundey, Moneywomen17, hayoholla

Edeyoung:
(1) Ooh am now gregyboy because i am saying the truth.........

I probably would just be avoiding you now just the way gregyboy has been doing

(2) You accused ayoola account as fishy now you call me gregyboy....

I see the yorubas here have become insecure particularly you TAO11 you are going nut per minutes....

(1) I can't remeber anyone who said you are saying the truth. You never do.

I can tell you are one and the same person as gregyboy for many reason, the most prominent reason being that you attach the very screenshots that defeat you.

Your screenshot is from S.A. Akintoye's "North-Eastern Yoruba Districts and The Benin Kingdom", Journal of the Historical Society of Nigeria, Vol. 4, No. 4 (June 1969), p.546.

You completely overturned the statement therein (and cut out relevant portion of the screenshot) in order to give your usual fraudulent spin to the effect that Binis produced the clothes.

On the contrary, the statement clearly reads as follows:

"Among the Ekiti, Akoko and Igbominá, the spinning, dyeing and weaving of cotton was perhaps the most important industry of the women.* The strips of their cloths [i.e. the Ekitis', the Akokos' and the Ignominas' clothes] are much wider than the strips of the characteristic Oyo cloths ... .Theirs [i.e. the Akokos', the Ekitis', and the Igbominas'] are of three types - the two-strip type (each strip being about two yards long and about one yard wide) called ikeji , the three-strip and four-strip types called iketa and ikerin respectively, ... .The ikeji was usually made for home consumption, while the iketa and ikerin were essentially meant for sale. In some parts, the ikerin is still referred to as aso-Àdó - meaning 'Benin cloth' or 'cloth for Benin'."

It becomes clear therefore, from your own reference (which you attempted to manipulate), that aso-Àdó is simply a vareity of clothes produced by the Yorubas and sold specifically to Benin so that your fore-parents can cloth themselves and also resell.

See fuller attachment. Lies don't last. Desist.

(2) The guy who calls himself AyoOla is an Edo

I am not surprised that you fail to grasp the impersonation in that moniker.

Having exposed you as always, let me make it known that I am very much aware that you are scared of me. And others on this section are all aware.

Run away as far as you can, or even use several other monikers, I will always fish you out for disgrace as I have just done here.

Gregyboy, aka Edeyoung. ROTFLMAO!

cc: Babaramota1980, MetaPhysical