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OLAADEGBU:
It is crystal clear that Yahweh was one of three persons that appeared to Abram just as the scripture says.

Different verse, different place and different time

MatrixReloaded:
Read up where I mentioned John the baptist and Jesus. Was is not on that quest that we knew about water baptism. Get sense abeg

You were confused do I just gave you a simple definition of being born again. You are welcome.

tsdarkside:
aww....he pain nam....
petty traders feelin funky....

The only thing paining me is that idiots like you have a voters card. So you are right, e pain me.

Bliss62:
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia would never punish Civilians in Isreal for Netayahun and Hamas war.

After 911 attack by Bin Laden a CIA trained agent,

Saudi were among the first to donate aide and supplies, issue out condolences to US

Oga Saudi Arabia does not sell oil to Israel. As of today, there is zero diplomatic or trade relationship between the 2 states. Saudi Arabia does not even recognize Israel as a nation.
As of 911 most of the terrorist were Saudis and Saudi has been very close to the US for a long time now.
The relationship only became a bit unstable under Bidens leadership.

MatrixReloaded:
What are you talking about mental experience.? Being a Born again Christian is flee from all flesh acquaintance. Moreover Born again Christians are doers of christ evangelism and upholding the cruxification. Neither Born again nor mental awareness justify your question. The both are totally different. No one was born righteous. We all have that self perception of making heaven but it comes with a heavy burden which can be laid on the foot of the cross. That's why I always pray "O Lord remember me in your paradise" with an open heart and with faith.

Stop complicating it, Jesus Christ already gave you a simple definition. It means to be born of the water and of the spirit.
1. Baptism and 2. Receiving the Holy Spirit.

Templee333:
FALSE IDEA 23
GOD wants us to worship him.

And these ideas are false because God told you they are false or because you decided for God that they are false or someone else told you they are false?

[quote author= post=126467904]Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby.
When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground.”
Abraham showed immediate hospitality to the three men, inviting them to rest under a tree and preparing a big meal for them.

During their visit with Abraham, the three men warned him that God’s judgment was about to fall upon Sodom and Gomorrah They also promised that Abraham’s wife, Sarah, would have a baby by the same time next year.

Some have suggested that all three of these “men” were angelic beings who appeared to Abraham in the form of men. However, Genesis 18:1 says that it was “the LORD” (Yahweh) who appeared to Abraham.

So, one of the three “men” must have been God Almighty taking on the appearance of a man.
We call such an appearance a “theophany.” When Jesus appears in His pre-incarnate body in the Old Testament,
We call it a “Christophany.”
Whether God’s appearance to Abraham in Mamre was a theophany or a Christophany, we don’t know.
But it does seem clear from the context that one of the visitors was God Himself and the other two were the angels who later visited Sodom and spoke to Lot.[/quote]Actually it's not clear that any of the Visitors was God.

Weretuntun:
A GOD That create the universe.saying that a spirit can not fully destroyed,but can be punished and later be hijacked by devil, if spirit can be destroy,why devil and fallen angel.still strong enough to stage coup against him.
If spirit didnot multiply that means only adam will account for what billion ppl do.

If spirits don't multiply, how did God have a Son. Jesus Christ is begotten of the Father. And he is not the only spirit child of the Father.

Kobojunkie:
None of what you said here makes scriptural sense though.

1. What is this "meditating" you say you do? Where in the Gospels did Jesus Christ send anyone to engage in any such ritual?

2. Why in the world are you even considering the destruction of spirits? What "spirit" are you asking of?

3. Spirit multiply? How?

These ideas you hold to are foreign to scripture, so are you attempting to get help with this from a Babalawo on this issue or what?

He only asked very important questions and asking questions is not foreign to scripture.
Also, it's clear that you do not know the meaning of meditation.
Here is a simple dictionary meaning of the word.
The act of giving your attention to only one thing.
Now is this practice discouraged by the bible?
No infact, the bible encourages meditation.
Matthew 6:22
if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

victorclean:
Don't he has his body count as well?. Marriage is for future and past should be thrashed totally for peace

You can't have a peaceful future with out resolving the issues of the past

tsdarkside:
nigerian army is much stronger today....
most people that voted cared only about security....

without us,ecowas cant do shishi....
i only cared about security....

why should i care about your yeye 2x2 shops....??
not even ghanaians want una around....

Oga you are sick. Nigeria has never been this insecure.
More people were killed on the average under your APC gov than under Jonathan.
Please do your research before writing nonsense.
Under Jonathan the major security problem was in the North East but under the APC it spread to the North West with Zamfara becoming the deadliest state at a time. It was also under Buhari that unknown gunmen took over the entire South East.
So please stop telling cheap lies.
Why do you think the South West govs set up amotekun? It was because you army became too weak to protect the people. So stop fooling yourself.

Fiscus105:
Ladies and Gents can you accept/ endure this, going into marriage?

If you finally settled down with him or her will u be happy in the marriage till end?

Will you be completely faithful with him/her till end?

Age is not just a number but you are not unfaithful because of the age of your partner, you are unfaithful because ashewo dey your eyes

tsdarkside:
yeah,without people like you nigeria is doomed....

we don hear....

Keep voting for idiot then come online and pretend you love Nigeria.

tsdarkside:
bwahahahaha....

Abi nah. With people like you this country is doomed. Unfortunately people like you are in the majority. Do you see why 9ja is cursed?

tsdarkside:
yeah,soo long you are sittin on your arse all day in your 2x2 shops and importin every rubbish,you didnt care....

My 2x2 shop and the rubbish I import have been keeping the nation going for many many decades now.
You claim to understand economics and yet you are having problems with simple demand and supply.
Thanks to my 2x2, most Nigerians are provided with their daily demands. Now over to you what do you add to the economy?
Again, it's funny that you find it easy to blame your fellow average citizens for the economic problems and yet you don't realize how useless the government you voted for is.

tsdarkside:
take us to court....

No need for that. If someone decides to curse himself, you just leave him like that. You have already chosen hunger and poverty so don't fear, no one will be taking you to court.

tsdarkside:
abegi park....jonathan pissed us off soo much that anything else was seen as better....
remember after chibok girls how mama piss was crocrodile cryin on tv....??
or how even the wife of that oloriburuku obama was talkin about it too....??

that was not shameful....??

The Chibok girls case was very painful but if that is your excuse for voting in the worse government ever in the history of Nigeria then you really hate your country.
You chose to vote for a worse government just because you were pissed off. Now we can clearly see the cause of our problems. It's people like you.

tsdarkside:
nawa....with fee dee fee eveything was much better....
people like you dont care about anything solong a igbo is in charge....

you think if people were that happy they would have replaced jonathan with a ex-dictator....??
most nigerians didnt like army comin near anything goverment....

what happened that they changed they minds soo fast....??

Look, Jonathan was 9 years ago. If we keep using him as the reason for hunger in the land, we are only fooling ourselves.
But then, it was the same idiots that voted in Buhari that continue to insult the rest of us.
Tinubu has continued with the same culture that killed our economy. Already he has spent millions on new cars and travels. He continues to keep and service 5 presidential jets. This is the world's capital of poverty yet your president lives a better live than the president of Norway one of the world's richest countries.
To think that he would make any positive change is just being funny.

tsdarkside:
look at you....go learn economics before cursin people....
you cant blame anybody for the situation today....

we failed to start plannin decades ago....

thinkin that a politician will come and perform miracles is stvpidity....

You are clearly an idiot for saying we can't blame anyone for the situation today. The job of a good leader is to lead well and pull the people out of hunger not to make things worse.
You voted for Buhari's biggest supporter and you somehow believe he would be any better that shows you are truly cursed. Was the lesson of the last 8 years not enough? Keep deceiving yourself.
It's easy to place the blame on many decades ago and keep running away from your problem.

Obaofaba:
You have said it all, nothing to add except the popular saying that ''only fools sees problem as problems but the wise sees it as opportunities.

Which part of the divide are you?

If you are the type that wishes failure for your country because your candidates lost election, you don't need to be cursed because curses will not depart from you all the days of your life.

If you are the type that votes for people who lead more into hunger and poverty curses will never depart from your household.

Veecruz:
Does God not see your heart? Even I know your evil blasphemous mind how much more God.

Any way it all ends with God destroying enemies like you.

You know nothing. You have been programed to have a very narrow dirty mind. You are a typical Nairaland christian who lacks wisdom and knowledge and sees every other person as an enemy.
I advise you to go offline for 6 months and spend that time studying your Bible. I promise you will return a better man.

Veecruz:
One idiot blasphemer still blasphemed God even when the bible was not written and he got what he deserved. If you like do not fear God and read the bible, you have severally blasphemed God and you will get your deserved punishments for each and every one of them.

Oga we all need to fear God and repent of our sins but it's clear you don't know the meaning of blasphemy. Quoting from the bible is not blasphemy. The problem with you the average Nairaland christian is that you don't read your Bible. You depend on your pastor to tell you what's in the book then you come here to insult people who actually study their bible and expose your stupidity.
If you want to discuss the bible, great let's have it but don't pretend to have a moral superiority when in reality you are an empty barrel.

God1000:
Too bad what our country has become with this high cost of living

Even you!!

Veecruz:
If you had studied the bible you would have seen that they would have been killed for having sex with their slaves which is what Moses and the soldiers knew in ensuring no sex slavery occured. So you are talking nonsense.

O Lord avenge thyself of all who blaspheme thy Holiness and this world that the evils we see, we shall see them no more!

Who is this one. Please quote rather that writing your opinion or run off when intelligent people are chatting.
You are accusing me of blasphemy as if I am the one that wrote the bible. I only quoted from it so blame Moses for writing it not me.

rentAcock:
People need to stop whining and wailing and find solutions to counter inflation. Nigeria's inflation rate is still far better than Turkey, Argentina, Venezuela, Zimbabwe etc. And some of those countries have more oil reserves than Nigeria.
If by now you haven't figured out how to convert your money to a stable coin or bitcoin, then you must really like seeing your money depreciate everyday. Things will get worse before it gets better, but I will never give up on this country.

Your argument is that Nigerian inflation is not yet as bad as some other countries right? There are millions of people out there who can't eat or buy Bitcoin but you don't care so long you have your bitcoins.
Things have been going bad since 1960 so stop fooling yourself and others that things would get better. It wouldn't get better with this kind of government and the idiots who voted them in.

YinkaOlusesi16:
NO MATTER WHAT, ME AND MY FAMILY GO SURVIVE. I NO FEAR ATALL

Yes, you and your family will survive but you should care about the tens of millions of Nigerians who are finding it so hard to make ends meet.

Veecruz:
No!

You said "God instructed them" whereas it was Moses.

O Lord please come and end all these and take vengeance upon all these blasphemous people. Amen

Oh so Moses a prophet of the most high would order sex slavery against the will of God?
God does not allow his prophets lead his children to sin.
Please start studying your Bible.

Dtruthspeaker:
If you indeed had read you would have seen thst it is Moses who spoke this. See what you failed to read

[b]15 And Moses said unto them, [/b]Have ye saved all the women alive?

16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the Lord.

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him....

So we are saying the same thing right? The men of Israel were instructed to share the virgin children among themselves or isn't that what happened?

4KNGOATS:
Just pray this situation never blows to your direction cos UFGAD simply means you'll 4kn give a damn

Let's all pray that Hamas and Hamas supporters don't take over our country.

Steep:
We are talking of scriptures, which is specifically for the purpose of revealing christ and guiding the doctrines including making corrections.
You have to understand that context is important in anything, "The mystery of Christ" is actually referred to the plan of salvation for men in christ Jesus and that is the ultimate purpose of the scripture, that mystery has already being revealed and this also include the book of revelations ehich shows us the future the event leading to the coming of Jesus kingdom.l
John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

You ignored where I told you God still reveals things but they are subject of scriptures.
Every prophecy has a purpose but only the scriptures can form the basis of doctrines and teachings for the church. The scripture is literally the authority by which all other prophecy would be judged.
In the days of Moses there were prophets who prophesy yet none of them had their prophecy as scripture, in time of Paul and the other apostles there were prophets and teachers but none of them were recognized as scripture.

God's knowledge is infinite but he only reveals what is necessary and sufficient for us.
Even when Paul was taken to the third heaven he was not allowed to reveal anything why its not necessary for the church to know.

"We know in part, prophecy in part" This is our individual knowledge of God and of his kingdom.
What God has given us is all we need to know to enable is to be fruitful and bring others to christ and that is the scriptures.

Now you seem to forget that the bible was not compiled by the Apostles of Jesus Christ. It was put together 100s of years after there death but the Roman Catholic church.
Now we can't tell how they decided to compile the bible but it's so clear that not every scripture was compiled in the bible. Maybe these records were lost at the time or maybe the leaders for there personal reasons chose not to add them.
I am sure you have never come across these but then, we learn everyday.
Here are a list of some of these records.
There are many sacred writings mentioned in the scriptures that we do not have today, among which are these books and writers: the covenant (Ex. 24:7), the wars of the Lord (Num. 21:14), Jasher (Josh. 10:13; 2 Sam. 1:18), the acts of Solomon (1 Kgs. 11:41), Samuel the seer (1 Chr. 29:29), Nathan the prophet (2 Chr. 9:29), Shemaiah the prophet (2 Chr. 12:15), Iddo the prophet (2 Chr. 13:22), Jehu (2 Chr. 20:34), the sayings of the seers (2 Chr. 33:19), Enoch (Jude 1:14),

Let's talk after you have made your research.

Also research the below

An epistle of Paul to the Corinthians, earlier than our present 1 Corinthians (1 Cor. 5:9); possibly an earlier epistle to the Ephesians (Eph. 3:3); an epistle to the Church at Laodicea (Col. 4:16); and some prophecies of Enoch, known to Jude (Jude 1:14). To these rather clear references to inspired writings other than our current Bible may be added another list that has allusions to writings that may or may not be contained within our present text but may perhaps be known by a different title; for example, the book of the covenant (Ex. 24:7), which may or may not be included in the current book of Exodus; the manner of the kingdom, written by Samuel (1 Sam. 10:25); the rest of the acts of Uzziah written by Isaiah (2 Chr. 26:22). The foregoing items attest to the fact that our present Bible does not contain all of the word of the Lord that He gave to His people in former times and remind us that the Bible, in its present form, is rather incomplete. Matthew’s reference to a prophecy that Jesus would be a Nazarene (2:23) is interesting when it is considered that our present Old Testament seems to have no statement as such. There is a possibility, however, that Matthew alluded to Isa. 11:1, which prophesies of the Messiah as a Branch from the root of Jesse, the father of David. The Hebrew word for branch in this case is netzer, the source word of Nazarene and Nazareth. Additional references to the Branch as the Savior and Messiah are found in Jer. 23:5; 33:15; Zech. 3:8; 6:12; these use a synonymous Hebrew word for branch, tzemakh.

Dtruthspeaker:
God's Command was clear kill everyone, so clearly, that was an act of Moses. Gods own was that they should have been wiped out like Sodom and Gomorah and we won't have had you talking rubbish.

And God instructed them to divide the virgins among themselves.
I know you hate reading so I have copied and pasted here for you. If you like don't read. I have also highlighted the phase for you.

Numbers 31
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

19 And do ye abide without the camp seven days: whosoever hath killed any person, and whosoever hath touched any slain, purify both yourselves and your captives on the third day, and on the seventh day.

paxonel:
Ok, I agree with you on this and I'm getting it now because it is important to shift grounds when I see something new to learn..
What you are saying is, on the basis of, if the individual is not saved then he needs salvation first which is most important than anything else ?

But all i have been saying is, when the individual already has the knowledge of Christ and is saved which is most important, then acquiring the knowledge of how his environment works is also important .

To this effect, i totally agree with you that the revelations given to modern pastors are most important than the revelations of science. But only on the backdrop that the revelations are only of Jesus Christ and his salvation.

100% agreed