jmoore: Abraham also sacrificed animals to God. Why are you not following Abraham to sacrifice animals to God?
Do you know the meaning of old and new? It is called old testament for a reason. Why are you comfortable with old when Jesus gave you new?
The form of contribution for Christians is in 2 Corinthians 9:7 'Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.'
You are wrong on 2 fronts. 1. First Christ's sacrifice brought an end to animal sacrifice. We are told in the old testament not to have any God by him, the same is expected in the new testament. The old testament taught don't use the name of God in vain, same is expected in new testament. Same with honoring our parents. Those things that where changed were clearly mentioned. Every other thing remains the same in our worship. 2. The early Christian's in the book of Acts gave all they had to the Church. Christ commanded the rich young man to give all to the poor. Members of the new testament Church led by Peter gave all to the church and had all things in common. I am sure you don't practice that
NNTR: Yes, something like that, so, in essence, tell now, if or not, you have prayed to yourself, meaning, if or not you have ever ask something from yourself.
You're talking like this in a shallow minded way because you havent thought this fully through
I know my limits. I know my potentials, so when I pray to myself, it is usually done within the scope of my limits, strength and potential, loll.
I go to banks to cash the money I had earlier prayed to myself to make and when I slot in my bank card in to the ATM, money thereafter is given to me.
Now being that, I know you arent no coward, and you arent intentionally trying to evade the question I asked you, I will, at this juncture, re-ask the same question again. Do you take it, as an impossible thing, for God to do, that it is, impossible for God to be, God the Father and Son, at the same time? (i.e. to simultaneously exist in Heaven as God, the Father and as Jesus, when He was on earth)
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
I already answered. It's impossible for God to deceive. Dividing himself into 3 and calling himself his begotten son would be fraudulent. I don't believe God is fraudulent hence I think it's clearly impossible for God to cook up such a scheme Also, if you know your limits and potential, you don't need to take permission from yourself.
[quote author=Cholls post=109810091]My brothers and sisters this is not the time for tribal war...we all need to stand up and do something about this...[/quote What can you do, are you a policeman?
achorladey: One of his created thread on this platform na laughing stock because he simply should leave the platform based on that but we know he has seconds, minutes and hours to deliver to his taskmasters. and the platform provides it free with no hassle even when those hours includes raining insults and abuses all over those he is conversation with.
The one parroting the words of his taskmasters cannot follow through on such words. We know who im be.
The boy is not too stable. He is ill mannered and cracks under pressure. I really don't understand why he was selected to represent his organization. Of them all, he is the least smart, always taken to anger and a really foolish boy. Normally, one is usually impressed by JW. The come out as smart but this one is different. He is mostly dumb.
NNTR: There's nothing more deceitful than the hypocrisy of appearing to be sincere and truthful, but trying very hard not to evade giving honest answer to the question being asked
Avoiding giving answers to questions asked is what in order to stop facing up to facts and reality, is what cowards do
I can speak for myself, that, I normally and often regularly pray to myself and I can't imagine why anyone would think there is something wrong with that.
John 11:40-42 40Jesus said to her, “Did I not say to you that if you believe [in Me], you will see the glory of God [the expression of His excellence]?” 41So they took away the stone. And Jesus raised His eyes [toward heaven] and said, “Father, I thank You that You have heard Me. 42I knew that You always hear Me and listen to Me; but I have said this because of the people standing around, so that they may believe that You have sent Me [and that You have made Me Your representative].”
It is called, leading by example, the stuff that good leaders often do. It is praying to the Father, for the benefit of those and any in hearing to copy, imitate and/or emulate. Now who else should He beg, if not, in the first instance, the Person, who sent Him on an errand. Hmm?
I know you arent no coward, so I will re-ask the question again. Do you take it, as an impossible thing, for God to do, that it is, impossible for God to be, God the Father and Son, at the same time? (i.e. to simultaneously exist in Heaven as God, the Father and as Jesus, when He was on earth)
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Praying means to ask something from someone. Honestly. Only a mad person prays to himself. Since you have the ability to give yourself anything you own, you donto need to pray to yourself unless you are being dishonest here. I imagine you would pray to yourself to give you your money in the bank.
Janosky: This verse Exodus 8:19 & the statement of Jesus Christ@ Luke 24:49, Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28, were they written by Janosky?
Oga, Exodus 8:19 & Luke 24:49, Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28 is NOT my claim.
God's finger His Holy spirit is NOT a being,it is "power from on high" Luke 24:49, Jesus explained.
God have eyes, ears, mouth. Is God's eyes a living being? Is His mouth a living being? Is His finger be a living being? Numbers 11:16-17, Luke 24:49 & 1 Samuel 10:6,Definitely not !
God have eyes, ears, mouth. Is God's eyes a living being? Is His mouth a living being? Is His finger be a living being? I don't know what point you are trying to make here are you saying that the Holy Spirit is a dead spirit? Do spirits die? How would you define a living being?
Janosky: This verse Exodus 8:19 & the statement of Jesus Christ@ Luke 24:49, Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28, were they written by Janosky?
Oga, Exodus 8:19 & Luke 24:49, Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28 is NOT my claim.
God's finger His Holy spirit is NOT a being,it is "power from on high" Luke 24:49, Jesus explained.
God have eyes, ears, mouth. Is God's eyes a living being? Is His mouth a living being? Is His finger be a living being? Numbers 11:16-17, Luke 24:49 & 1 Samuel 10:6,Definitely not !
Let's go through all the verses you quoted. Never was the Holy Spirit called God's finger.
1. Exodus 18.9 19 Then the magicians said unto Pharaoh, This is the finger of God: and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he hearkened not unto them; as the Lord had said.
2. Luke 24.49 49 And behold, I am sending the promise of my Father upon you. But stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high.”
3 Luke 11:20 20 But if I drive out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
Now if The Holy Spirit is God's fingers then he is part of God's body. It seems you are preaching trinity
Janosky: God never said man is a spirit, Genesis 6:3. Exodus 33:20, flesh can not see spirit. Acts 9:3-6, Paul heard Jesus voice speaking, did he see Jesus? Definitely not ! 1 Corinthians 15:45, (NLT)Jesus is the life giving spirit in heaven after his resurrection.
Please don't get me wrong, I never said God said he created man in his Feelings and emotions.
My point is , from the Bible,God have feelings & emotions. For example,anger, Psalms 103:9. God is happy and rejoice (emotions), when a sinner repents.
We all know God has feelings and emotions that's not the point here. Animals also have feelings and emotions and he created them too. Seeing God is another topics as we know Moses spoke with God face to face. Peter and the rest of the Apostles saw the resurrected Christ. He clearly told them he was not a spirit. So even if Paul did not see him, others did.
I never claimed Jesus or his Father are not spirits. But so is man. The resurrected Christ had his spirit in a body just like his father. Man was created after that model.
jmoore: Tithe is for Judaism. Tithes got no place in Christianity. Why are you not worried that you haven't sacrificed animals to God?
If tithe is for Judaism then the old testament is not a book for Christians. Even before the nation of the Jews came about, Abraham paid tithe. If you claim tithe is for the Jews then what form of contribution is for Christians?
OluwakemiRN: I remembered while growing up how difficult it was to dance while in church.I really wanted to dance the way others were dancing but just couldn't move my body to dance with ease.The Spirit was indeed willing but the flesh was weak. Oh! How I struggled to dance to those wonderful songs.
What could be responsible for this reluctancy ? I recently got to know it was because there was a lot of burden on my mind that I had not cast unto God. The moment I started casting all to God, I began to experience burden free life and a heart full of joy with which I could rejoice and dance without any hesitation.
I have finally overcome ! Now I dance with ease in God's presence.
Do you find it difficult to dance to the glory of God while in church?
Do you feel so burdened that it's difficult to release yourself while praise and worship is on?
You can't continue like this in 2022
Remember in the presence of God there is fullness of Joy.You can't afford to keep missing this unending Joy each time you appear before God.
All you need to do is to cast all your burden into God and watch Him sort things out for you.
The next time you appear before God, dance like someone whose burden is on God.
Feel free to share your experience if you had a similar one.
Thanks
Dancing is not a requirement for heaven. It wasn't recorded that Jesus and his followers danced. So if you are not into dancing, fear not you are not going to hell for that. You can worship and praise God without dancing. I am not criticizing those who dance
achorladey: You have rendered the little help you can offer and even called on others to assist.
You don try. The person that needs the help choose to ignore. Na him palaver be that. His mode of operation had been conditioned that way by those he listen to.
This MaxInDHouse guy once vowed never to communicate with me in any way or form. He broke his vow in less than a week. I don't trust men that don't keep to their words.
backbencher: Yeah, but compared to what Brazil and Thailand have, it's very small
Plus with all the pollution there from crude, no one wants to plant rice there really.
Federal Government spent $2.41 billion on rice importation between January 2012 and May 2015. Now imagine how much has been spent from 2016 to 2022. This amount would have buit a refinery. By now,we wouldn't be spending N16 billion a day to import fuel.
backbencher: Yeah, but compared to what Brazil and Thailand have, it's very small
Plus with all the pollution there from crude, no one wants to plant rice there really.
You make a fair point. But that only shows the government has spent the last 10 years deceiving us about rice production. Imagine if the billions spent on rice was spent on something more realistic like iron ore exploration or even cassava product. By now we would have increased our foreign exchange and grown the economy.
backbencher: Yes, and the countries we import from like Thailand and Brazil have something we don't have, massive wetlands
Nigeria? To create a wetland we have to build a dam and create it artificially,and at the end of the day, it needs more resources to maintain it .Our natirial wetlands on a good day aren't even up to half of what Thailand and Brazil got
When you did the above, who was hungry and begging for water?
Who was going and getting to hook himself with STUPIDITY
Learn
I have tried all I can to live at peace with MaxInDHouse. I have ignored his comments and kept a distance. I try not to read most of his comments even when he mentions my name. That we have different believes isn't enough reason to start a 3rd world war. We can't fight for God. Blessed are the peace makers. Please can you advise MaxInDHouse to cool down. He really needs to gather himself and act like a man. He is taking this out of proportion.
Under the last administration, oil sold for over $100 yet petrol was mostly below N100 a liter. Are they telling us that the last administration spend all our money on subsidy?
vincentjk: If they like let them not go and invest in agriculture.
Today oil tomorrow oil yet na we borrow borrow pass. Audio oil
Agriculture cannot bring in half of what oil is bringing in. The government has spent billions on rice cultivation since the past 10 years. We are still importing rice today.
NNTR: Lets cut to the chase. Do you take it, as an impossible thing, for God to do, that it is, impossible for God to be, God the Father and Son, at the same time? (i.e. to simultaneously exist in Heaven as God, the Father and as Jesus, when He was on earth)
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
I see it as a deceitful game. One does not pray to himself. Why beg the father to take the cup from you when you are the father. It's very deceitful
NaijaCowFarm: Some of the following presidential candidates who have either declared interest in the 2023 presidency or whose body language seems to suggest interest are either hopeless or at best wasting their time.
This is entirely my opinion and based on the current state of things. I am sure some that you will come here and accept my opinion as law, but please do not come here and type nonsense, I only put things the way they are. If you love to hallucinate, it is up to you. All I expect is your point of view, you may counter my points if you have a superior argument. No abuses, please!
Bola Tinubu: A candidate that is very hard to sell. Age is questionable, background shrouded in secrecy, early education doubtful. No one knows where and when Tinubu got his School certificate but he is said to be a degree holder from Chicago State University. Interestingly, APC disqualified Obaseki because it doubted his HSC certificate. Would the same APC accept a Tinubu without a verifiable School certificate? To crown it all, Tinubu is perceived as corruption personified. His perceived influence in "EndSARS" handling in Lagos and health condition now exacerbated by his latest sickness and relocation to oversea for "health consultation" has just put a huge spanner on his ambition. Of recent, APC structure has quickly slipped off his grips, even foreclosing his leadership with Mai Buni now calling the shots.
Anyim Pius Anyim: This one knows he cannot secure a PDP ticket, he is just wasting time and making noise with the hope of securing vp ticket. Anyim has been in a cocoon since leaving office and suddenly remembers he wants to be president. Even his LGA does not support his "ambition".
Dave Umahi: Not sure who drumming for Dave Umahi. However, he lacks a political base. His state is largely PDP and he cannot win APC ticket, except Buhari opt for him as APC consensus candidate. Even at that, APC will lose to a PDP candidate from any part of Nigeria. Again, his handling of IPOB matter is a derailing factor to his success.
Yemi Osinbajo: A weakling, whom Buhari has stopped handing over to since 2017 after he, a "bat" in the Buhari regime tried to act as a "bird". He and his few noise makers know he is going nowhere. Funny thing is that his benefactor, Tinubu is not willing to help him this time, neither is Buhari. He is at best the "most qualified" without a support base
Yahaya Bello: I still do not know who is encouraging a failure of a governor to be dreaming of the presidency. Funny, Kogi is neither South nor do Northerners consider them North. Bello is believed to be interested in Senate but he may not have the chance as his tenure and the senatorial elections in 2023 do not align.
Orji Kalu: [/b]Kalu is a realist and has approached the 2023 presidential race with cautious optimism because he still doubts his capacity to pick APC ticket. The only trump card Kalu is hinging is a fallout between Tinubu and Osinbajo. If destiny smiles on him, he may be a surprise candidate, but for now, a time-waster.
[b]Okorocha: I do not have to waste time here. His hold to APC is shaky and cannot even win with Imo delegates.
Atiku Abubakar: Anyone would have ruled Atiku out of the 2023 race by mid-2021 when Southern governors were clamoring for the presidency to come to the south. However, the PDP governors have since discovered the deceit in the sudden Southern governors' romance. As it stands, PDP wants to displace APC at the centre and Atiku looks like the catalyst for this job. If the alignments happening in PDP is anything to go by, Atiku might be PDP candidate again.
Peter Obi: Although Peter Obi has not formally declared, he might not be the candidate the ODP could invest 2023 winnable wealth on for obvious reasons. The issue of ipob and their activities will work against Peter Obi securing PDP ticket, however, a vp slot with Atiku is still possible, baring the Wike's factor.
Bukola Saraki: Saraki would have been a great candidate, but the loss of Kwara in 2019 has put a damaging debt to his political sagacity. Going into 2023, Saraki is considered a Northern Muslim, just like Tinubu, he faces the herculean task of proving his northerness to the core north. The South sees him as a northerner by the way.
Kayode Fayemi: Fayemi has been quiet about his ambition. With his tenure as governor coming to an end, there are strong indications that Fayemi might end up picking the APC ticket. Right now, not many are talking about Fayeni, but his governors' forum is calling the shots in APC. Post-APC convention, we will likely see a strategist Fayemu displacing Tinubu and Osinbajo.
The Buhari candidate: Not yet revealed but in Buhari's cabinet. Loyal and unassuming. He might be a last-minute surprise to all APC. Mark you, I am not referring to Rotimi Amaechi. Amaechi is not a candidate the north wants, he is not trusted and cannot get APC ticket.
Since only one person would win the election are you suggestin we have a one party system like China so others don't get to waste their time?
NNTR: Sir, there loads of answered question(s) in what you cynically call long note
I went far, above and beyond answering the question
Do you take it, as an impossible thing, for God to do, that is, be, God the Father and Son at the same time?
I dont believe this is a wise request to grant you, being that, the explanation will require a long note with content, that you'll struggle to fully understand or completely absorb
I never typed, you saying God isnt a Spirit. Please note the capitalisation, making a distinction between Spirit and spirit, loll
The difference, that you always dont see, is that your spirit, is not you, but rather, your soul is you and vice versa.
Both the soul and spirit are gifts. Only that the gift of the soul is yours to keep, whereas, the gift of the spirit, is not yours to keep, because when all is done and dusted, the spirit returns back to its owner, God
The spirit (i.e. ruach) breathed into you, is what triggers your first heat beat that brought you alive. You remain alive, for as long as the ruach remains in your body and let your heart continue beating. Remember that, ruach, is otherwise known as, the breath of God, and in reality, also known as, living or life force.
Coming from a principle point, I dont do arguments, so my apologies for not arguing with you.
The invisibility of God, is a biblically widely known fact, that even Deuteronomy 4:15, John 4:24, Exodus 33:201 and Timothy 6:16, helps us understand fully well about, but when saying 'no human being has seen or can see God' it doesnt mean, no one has seen God or cant see God, in other forms as the Angel of the Lord, the bush on flames but not burning, the pillars of fire and cloud in the wilderness or various other appearances not mentioned, but none of those experienced sighting of God, are the full revelation of God.
Genesis 1:26-27 "26Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness, to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it. 27So God created man in His own image;in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them"
Aside black, red, as the colour, is one of my favourite colour, as it conveys, an imagery and air of love, romance, boldness, courage, chutzpah, danger, thrill etc for me and also because blood most of the time, is red, loll.
Now, when the bible, as seen in Genesis 1:26-27 above, says: 'Let Us make man, in Our image, after Our likeness', it is conveying a message that, we, human beings, are to be a physical image representation of different attributes of God. Now God is incorporeal, but He created us human beings, to physically project the different aspect and different visual imagery and likeness of the Godhead.
Image is instant, while likeness is continuum. The latter, is evident in Genesis 1:27, as seen above. Notice that the mention of "likeness" is left unsaid, in Genesis 1:27. Why? It is because, while image is instant, likeness, on the other hand is continuum.
1. How Jesus is God and we are not, simply is because Jesus, is God and we are gods. The presence or absence of the 'G' capitalisation is the defining moment for who is God and who isnt God.
2. How Jesus is not human and we are human, is not correct at all, because to start with, Jesus is, God Incarnate, meaning, God, in the person of Jesus, took on flesh, to become human, as a bottom line, result of that, Jesus has characteristics of divinity and humanity.
As for us, yes, we are human, with, work in progress, in view, characteristics of divinity. The Genesis 1:26 likeness, is continuum, just as I shared above earlier on this post.
Have you ever physically seen love, physically seen compassion, physically touched kindness, physically held favour, physically held goodness in your arms etc?
John 20:29 Jesus said to Thomas, "You believe because you've seen Me. Blessed are those who haven't seen Me but believe."
Many need to and want to see but do not see. Many need to hear and want to hear what you hear on this thread but do not hear it or dont understand any of what they have read. All what they see the posts as, are challenging long notes loll
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
To summarize your points You believe the father and son are the very same thus making God both spirit and flesh. Basically you are saying that the Father gave birth to himself as the son.. interesting. Would you want to explain Christ baptism. While he came out of the water, the Holy Ghost rested on him in form of a dove and the father's voice was heard from heaven. Did the father divide himself? Also, In his prayer to the Father, Christ begged that the cup be taken away from him then he added, 'if it be thy will.' Since you believe he is one and the same person, was he having bipolarity of wills?
BigMoneyeye: I DONT MEAN TO HURT ANYBODY but this sentence ''Jesus is coming soon'' is unture and deceptive. Even though i am suffering and in lack, i have stopped thinking about myself and rather pay attention to my surrounding When i look around me, i see alot of suffering and hunger, i see alot of pain and hopelessness, i see alot of hurt and diseases. certainly i can tell ''jesus isnt coming soon''. This world is bleeped up on so many levels with all sort of deception
SOON is the same as never. Nobody is coming to save you, me or the poor and needy.
we are just looking for a way to escape reality. I want to escape. I want to escape this unforgiving world; this poverty stricken world rat race and struggles that ends ultimately in death. After all the struggles to ''BECOME'' nobody wins at the end. its a fuckedup situation
You sound really depressed. Dont give up, have a little faith. Things could turn around
NNTR: Philippians 2:5-8b 5Have this same attitude in yourselves which was in Christ Jesus [look to Him as your example in selfless humility], 6who, although He existed in the form and unchanging essence of God [as One with Him, possessing the fullness of all the divine attributes--the entire nature of Deity], did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped or asserted [as if He did not already possess it, or was afraid of losing it]; 7but emptied Himself [without renouncing or diminishing His deity, but only temporarily giving up the outward expression of divine equality and His rightful dignity] by assuming the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men [He became completely human but was without sin, being fully God and fully man]. 8After He was found in [terms of His] outward appearance as a man [for a divinely-appointed time],
Yes, man was created in the Image of God, and to answer your 'How Come God Is A Spirit And Yet Has The Image Of Man' question. It is because something like that is not an impossible thing for God to do
When a portrait of you is drawn by an artist or painter on a canvas, in which way would you say, the image drawn and as seen on the canvas, looks like you
Deuteronomy 4:15-19 '15“So pay attention and watch yourselves carefully--for you did not see any form [of God] on the day the LORD spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire-- 16so that you do not act corruptly and make for yourselves a carved or sculpted image [to worship] in the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female, 17the likeness of any animal that is on the earth, or of any winged bird that flies in the sky, 18the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, or of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth. 19And beware that you do not raise your eyes toward heaven and see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, and let yourselves be led astray and worship them and serve them, [mere created bodies] which the LORD your God has allotted to [serve and benefit] all the peoples under the whole heaven'
John 4:24 'God is spirit [the Source of life, yet invisible to mankind], and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”'
Exodus 33:20 'But He added, “You cannot see My face, for humans cannot see Me and live.”'
There is no contradiction, keep reading on for the creative workaround that solves this seemingly problem, obstacle, restriction, limitation etc
God is not just only a Spirit, that is not made at all, as He is the Maker, but God is incorporeal, meaning, God has no physical body, whereas man, taking into consideration the fact that man is tripartite, is made up with, a soul, spirit and body, as created by the Maker, God.
Unlike the body, that is physical, the soul and spirit, are not physical. The soul and spirit constitute an immaterial part of a whole person or being, whether human or animal.
Now dwelling further on man, the soul, is the animate life, and actually, is that humanity side of man, the seat, where our emotions, senses, desires, affections, appetites, character etc all emanates out from.
In fact, the word, soul, even is used to refer to the whole person, whether alive on earth (i.e. land of the living) and/or after dead and transited in the afterlife (i.e. land of dead)
Wrapping up, the soul is the essence of what a human being is. The soul,is you, it is who you are. No surprises then, that, it is the soul that faces judgment, not the spirit and neither, not the body that stands before God, to give account for all the thoughts, deeds, words and actions did while the soul and spirit were housed in the body.
Focusing on the spirit, the spirit actually and appropriately, is ruach, otherwise known as, the breath of God, and in reality, also known as, life force. Now, at this juncture, it is necessary, to note that, though humans and animals have spirit, (i.e. ruach, otherwise known as, the breath of God, and in reality, also known as, life force) they however are not spirits nor Spirit (i.e. God)
The spirit (i.e. ruach, otherwise known as, the breath of God, and in reality, also known as, life force) in relation to humans, is the element in humanity that gives us the ability to have, not just only a connection with God, but also used to form an intimate relationship with God through it. Essentially, meaning that, part of what the spirit is used for, is to connect to God with, who Himself is Spirit, the Life-force, and giver of ruach, otherwise known as, the wind or breath of God
When the soul is the seat, where our emotions, senses, desires, affections, appetites, character etc all emanates out from, Proverbs 20:27, lets us know that, the spirit of man (i.e. talking of conscience here, and where as it happens, conscience, is one of the faculties of the spirit), is the lamp of the LORD, searching and examining all the innermost parts of his being, while 1 Corinthians 2:11, complementing, says, no one can know a person’s thoughts except that person’s own spirit, and no one can know God’s thoughts except God’s own Spirit. You see, the spirit, doubles up also as a witness. It knows everything about the person, and this because of the 'record' it logs
While the soul has four faculties, which namely are: Consciousness, Intellect, Will and Emotions, now, as for the spirit, aside Conscience, the other faculties of the spirit, are Fellowship and Discernment or Intuition. It is when man’s spirit successfully connects to or connects with the Spirit, that it is becomes capable of knowing things of the Spirit (i.e. God). While the soul, is the humanity side of man, the seat, where our emotions, senses, desires, affections, appetites, character etc all emanates out from, even giving us a purpose and/or sense of life, the spirit, on the other hand, is the temple throne seat of God in man, it not only is, the nourisher of soul, but it also gives us a power of life, from tuning into the God frequency channel or station and receiving transmitted spiritual signals thereof. Somebody, shout, Alleluia.
Physical pain, can with medicine, be made less severe, but mental pain (e.g. sorrow, grief, torment, despair, anguish, depression, dementia etc) is less accessible to treatment. Why is this? It's because of being connected to who we are - our personality, our character, our soul. Try and connect the dots, in the the parable of Lazarus and the dead rich man
Yes, the soul and the spirit are connected, yet we know, courtesy of Hebrews 4:12, that, they are able to be separated and are treated separately
In summary, the spirit, is the spark of light, the living or life force in the body, while the soul is kind of interface between spirit and body
The body dies (i.e. physically), it is because the spirit (i.e. life or living force) has expired, so the spirit stops existing in the body, from leaving the body and returning back to God, while the soul leaves the body, and moves on to a waiting area, pending the Judgment Day and verdict of where the last destination of the soul, will be. The body, after the exit of the spirit, experiences physical death, disintegrates, to end up, returning back, to being dust.
1 Timothy 6:16 He alone can never die, and He lives in light so brilliant that no human can approach Him. No human eye has ever seen Him, nor ever will. All honor and power to Him forever! Amen.
Aside from, the underlined telling, in Deuteronomy 4:15, John 4:24 and Exodus 33:201 above, we also see in Timothy 6:16, that apart from God, alone possessing or having immortality (i.e. absolute exemption from death), we see that because of the fact that He lives in unapproachable light, no human being has ever seen or can see Him.
Now, if no one has seen God, nor can see God, then how possibly can God, if at all He can be physically seen then? Well, the only way to answer this seemingly confusing question and difficult problem is, by giving an answer that goes like this: the only way to physically see God, is through Jesus, who is God Incarnate, meaning God in human flesh, God personified, so meaning that, God presents Himself available to be seen, the way that Jesus in physical appearance looks
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Sir, in your long note, you never answered the question. From your last paragraph, you seem to be saying that Jesus Christ is the same as God. Please explain if that is what you are saying. I never said God isn't a spirit, man also has a spirit so we are no different. You seem to be arguing that no man has seen God but that isn't the point of discussion. We are talking about God's image, the bible says we look like God. We don't need to see him to believe this.
Janosky: OP, open your eyes of understanding and study your Bible..
John 4:24, the God is a spirit. Numbers 23:19, the God is not a man. Genesis 6:3,did Yahweh say man is flesh? Yes ! Is flesh a spirit? Definitely not!
This OP, God dey excrete & reproduce like man? Eyes,yes ! Ears,yes ! Mouth,yes! Feelings and emotions, yes! But , the differences is a huge chasm.
Man is flesh, Genesis 6:3. God is spirit, John 4:24. Exodus 33:20, how many times have this OP seen God? Exodus 33:20, You dey reason am?
Hebrews 1:3, & 1 Corinthians 15:45 NLT, references Jesus Christ in the spiritual realm where he dwells as a spirit with his God and Father, John 20:17. 1 Corinthians 15:40, heavenly bodies, (moon, stars etc.) 1 Corinthians 15:44-45, spiritual body (of spirit entities) different from fleshly body of men. 1 Corinthians 15:45, the first Adam is flesh in the garden of Eden, the last/2nd Adam is spirit in heaven. So Simple and very straightforward.
Matthew 10:40, you have seen & received the Oga Boss when you receive the Messenger or Ambassador who Oga Boss sent. "We are ambassadors substituting for Christ". Christ is an ambassador for God his Father, @John7:16 & John 5:37,43.
Yes ! Only in the spiritual realm, Hebrews 1:3. John 5:37 & John 4:24 , Jesus said the God his Father NEVER lived on earth. God is not flesh. . Romans 8:3, God the spirit sent his son Jesus Christ in the likeness of men, to the earth , the dwelling of all flesh.
I would have loved to reply to you, but This is too long, I don't know which to respond to. Maybe you should have posted one point at a time. Also, none of the verses you quoted contradicts anything I said, I actually agree with all the verses you quoted. God is a spirit and so is man. Our spirits came from God. You ask if God excretes. The bible did not say so we both don't know. Of course, I agree that God's body is superior to that of man but I believe God when he said he created man in his image. God said he created man in His Image, not in his Feelings and emotions. If God wanted to say feelings and emotions rather than Image, he would have. I don't believe God does not know what he was saying.
Janosky: Exodus 8:19 & Luke 24:49, Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28, Jesus Christ , Luke, Matthew and Pharaoh understood that "holy spirit,'the finger of God' is "power from on high"
Jesus Christ was conceived through the power from on high.
@ Matthew 3:16-17, Jesus received the power from on high" in the form of a dove. @ Matthew 3:16-17,Did God turn into a dove to enter himself in the flesh , as Trinitarian devotees claim?
Definitely not !
If you claim that the Holy Spirit is God's fingers then you are simply saying that he is an extension of God himself. Or would you want to explain yourself better?
Workch: You didn't go to the reference, don't be lazy. Learn to carefully read. However it doesn't mean that every athiest is smarter than every theists, these studies only proves that "by average", religious people tend to be less intelligent than irreligious people and are less successful in IQ tests and any test that has to do with critical reasoning. I mean, no one should be surprised with these result. Religious people make decisions by intuition then by critical reasoning, that's why they believe religious myths spontaneously.
Open the references
Now to personal insults and rudeness. I was going to read your reference but my job comes first you really should mind how you talk to others
Janosky: Exodus 8:19,God's finger performed a miracle in king Pharaoh's palace. Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28,What is God's finger? Answer= holy spirit. OP, according to Jesus Christ (he is in the know,) ,@ Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28,is Jesus Christ the son of holy spirit?
Oh I get you, you mean the Holy Spirit is a part of God. Like they are one and the same?
[quote author=Wilddove post=109789343][/quote]You seem to be saying That God and the Holy Spirit are the same person. Are they the same or are they different?
peggywebbs: There are some questions that will be answered when we transition to the next world. I personally think we have more issues here on earth to deal with. I think the spirit knows who God is and our flesh limits our knowledge. Probably because we are too overwhelmed by the weakness of the flesh, hunger, emotions, survival and more.
I also believe that the mystery behind God's identity is a good thing. I think we have been left with the nature of God....so if we know his qualities, then we know him. I think we bear resemblance to him in spirit. Our bodies were designed for survival on this earth and that is why we leave it behind when we transition. We have no need of the flesh or the weakness it brings.
Thanks for your opinion. Still no harm in asking or answering questions
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