Kobojunkie: 1.Abraham is Father only to those who are descended from him. Gentiles are not of Abraham's family- we simply benefit from God's plan for Abraham as stated in Genesis 12
2. According to Jesus Christ, the New Covenant and Law in the Kingdom of God, in the Kingdom of God, there is only one Father- Matthew 12 vs 46-50 and Luke 8 vs 19-21.
3. So long as it has to do with the Kingdom of God, I only have one Father and He is God in Heaven - I am a Son of God.
As I said earlier you really need to read the entire bible. Abraham is not only the father of his descendants, he is the father of all righteous. Please read the scripture before making arguments Gal 3.29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Romans 4.11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. So then, he is the father of all who believe but have not been circumcised, in order that righteousness might be credited to them. 12 And he is also the father of the circumcised who not only are circumcised but who also walk in the footsteps of the faith that our father Abraham had before he was circumcised.
Bishopkingsley: When you see different kings having a meeting there will be one that is kings of kings that one is the over all king which other kings call king
That how it is Jesus is the king of all kings...
Jesus is the everlasting father which means he is the only one the real father of fathers
So nothing in the universe can be compared to Jesus
Jesus is the only true father
For it pleases God the Father God the holy spirit to dwell in Jesus
Colossians 1:19 ► For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,
New Living Translation For God in all his fullness was pleased to live in Christ,
English Standard Version For in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell,
You obviously did not comprehend the question. Anyway thanks for your views they are quite interesting maybe we can discuss them. Let me ask you, does Jesus have a father?
Kobojunkie: Those of you with other Father's, don't even belong to His Kingdom beginning right here on earth.
Are you saying the bible was wrong in calling Abraham the father of believers? If you are a believer, is Abraham not your father? Don't pull up a verse you don't understand and use it to explain the entire bible. From the verse you quoted, it says call no man on earth your father. Does that include the father that gave birth to you? Would you deny your father because you read a verse that says call no man your father?
Bishopkingsley: Read what I wrote it answers all questions
Only one father Jesus
Sorry I don't understand your answer. First, I quoted 3 verses, your answer did not explain any. Then you talk about body, soul and spirit... this has nothing to do with my post. Then you quote a verse talking about baptism. You seem to be all over the place
Bishopkingsley: The only way to get the real answer is to ask yourself are you made up of three dimension if you are then God is the same way as you
Because man is the image of God
So
You can see from the Bible you are made up of body Soul Spirit
You are one person yet having this three qualities that made you one man
That exactly how God is
God exists as the The father The son The holy spirit
Ask all the people who say they know God if they have this place in their Bible
Matthew 28:19 ► Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
New Living Translation Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
We have only one God just as you have only one man
Only one father Jesus
It pleases God the father to dwell in Jesus
I am not sure you understand the question. Please read post again. It was about the God the Father, Jesus Christmas and Abraham not the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
Kobojunkie: Those of you with other Father's, don't even belong to His Kingdom beginning right here on earth.
Isaiah 51:2 look to Abraham, your father, and to Sarah, who gave you birth. When I called him he was only one man, and I blessed him and made him many. If you most quote from the bible, then you most understand the entire bible and not just one verse. If you read my post, you would noticed it is lifted from the bible. Those are not my words.
First we have Abraham Romans 4:11 Then Jesus Christ The Everlasting Father ISAIAH 9:6 Then we have God the Father of all Ephesians 4:6 Are there other fathers spoKen of in the scriptures?
Kingcalls: Nonsense...is she 14?? A 21 yr old girl... do u know what some of her mates have achieved?? The lady that won the last us open Emma Raducanu , is 19yrs old ... stop making excuses ...some of her mates are executives in companies...
she is a 21 years old girl in school. I am glad you did not mention your own achievements at 21. You lack humanity. if we would express so much hate to a young girl for twerking I wonder what kind of heart we have.
Kingcalls: Alot of weak kids are being raised these days... trying to blackmail the people emotionally.... but she dint see anything wrong in doing that rubbish she did ... or did she expect everyone to support what she did?? So that the younger ones will emulate her as the right thing to do
It's easy to blame others. This is a young girl with her entire life in front of her. Even if you are against her actions, there is a time to be quiet or just show love
Eriokanmi: You don't know what you're saying. As a yorubaman, I'm closer to Obijackson than many of you are. Which pocket is he fighting for? He's the richest dude in the whole of Anambra state and you can take it to the bank. Which Road project did he abandon? Obijackson foundation has done more than the government of Anambra state ( both past and present) had done to the people of okija. I remember the first class Children and women hospital this man built there. All hospitals in the environs,.including in owerri always refer patients there because of how well-equipped it is . It's located along Madonna University Road.
The land issue shouldn't have arisen at all because the hospital occupies a vast portion of it. Recently , I learnt the hospital took delivery of triplets belonging to a 50-year old woman. The hospital settled the bill. I visit the hospital regularly as well. My problem with you people is that, you're never appreciative of your peoples' good deeds to your communities and and that's why they always prefer not to go home to invest. They'd rather remain in the south west and put their money where their mouth is. Go to VI and behold the HQ of Nest oil owned by Mr Obiejesi( AKA Obijackson) . He's just concluded an international private school in Okija. Go check it out if in doubt.
I wonder what his interest would be on the Anambra politics, if not on supporting someone he feels would move the state further progressively. is it Andy Uba the thief or the PDP rogue you want to entrust the wealth of Anambra to? Obijackson is one of those respected few billionaires in Nigeria today., humble and kindhearted. His kind is also few among igbos. He doesn't make noise like empty head obi cubana or the E money who's fond of posting every car bought for the world to see. Its a matter of time, their nyansh will be open.
Do you know this man has a private hanger in the lagos international airport and a helipad on top of his Nest oil building at VI and in Okija? You'd never know.
You wrote a wonderful post but you ended up embellishing it in tribalism. We have many who have done much more in Anambra. Pls don't say his kind is few in igbo land. I have travel round Nigeria and I can tell you that no tribe contribute's more to community development than we the igbos
Dear Adorers, there is a particular audio flying around where Fr. Mbaka was heard saying that the Heavenly Hosts had rejected Prof. Charles Chukwuma Soludo in an election.
When I inquired further about this audio, I was meant to know that it was released in 2013 election when Soludo was up against Willie Obiano who was Peter Obi's candidate. That actually means that Fr. Mbaka's prophecy came true in that particular election. But in this year's election, Fr. Mbaka never chose any particular candidate to win.
Dear friends please be very careful of how you open your mouth wide to condemn what you don't understand. In the area of criticism, one has to be sure of what is being criticized so as to know what exactly to say and not to say.
People are condemning Fr. Mbaka on that particular audio, asking him whether "Ndi Eluigwe" as he mentioned in that audio can actually change.
And I tell you today that NDỊ ELUIGWE (The Heavenly Hosts) can change their stand anytime any day. If you don't understand the things of God and the spirit, you need to be quiet and run away from self inflicted curses.
In Isaiah 38:1-5 and 2Kings 20:1-6, King Hezekiah became very sick and the prophet Isaiah brought God's prophecy to the King telling him that according to the words of God, He should put his house in order because HE WILL DIE from his current sickness and there will be NO RECOVERY. When the prophet Isaiah left the King, the King faced the wall and prayed to God to remember how he did his best to keep his commandments and rule his people in the fear of Him.
God sent the prophet Isaiah back to King Hezekiah to tell him that his prayers has been heard and 15yrs more has been added to his life. This is the Heavenly host (Ndị Eluigwe) changing a decision that was already made.
When we pray to God, we want God to actually give us all we ask for and at the time we ask for it. Ndị Eluigwe might have rejected Soludo's ambition and prayer in 2013 because he wasn't ready for it then and he may have become a terrible Governor if he had been granted his wish at that particular election. But if he eventually becomes the Governor, then know it that God has seen him as mature enough to carry the weight of the office.
A little boy of 5yrs can ask God for a power bike because he has seen and loved it. But God cannot answer such a prayer not because the little boy was joking when he prayed, No but because if he was granted that wish the little boy might attract Armed Robbers or be involved in an accident. Ndị Eluigwe will say No to that boy at that time and may later provide his wish when he is old and responsible enough.
God can reject you and your prayers now because He knows it is NOT YET your time to take it up. When it is your time, Ndị Eluigwe will smile at you.
God's ways are not our ways, SO RELAX and stop the Unimaginable Criticisms.
Crunchyg2: I am into food production and packaging, duely registered with corporate affairs and Nafdac. I need 200k to expand my business. If you are in Lagos and interested to bring in 200k and get 30k return in one month. Then let's do this. It will last only for 3 months then you pull out or we renegotiate. I am ready to sign a contract prepared by a lawyer . Note it can be inform of loan or investment . But it last only for the period of 3 months. If interested call or chat me up with my number below/ my profile
This isn't how to do business. I feel you are desperate. Forget about the financial promises, you probably wouldn't be able to keep them. What you need is to present a great business and that ask for investors. Open a thread, talk about your business, use pictures. Tell us about your market and then ask for investors You need to put in the work here
RoyalBoutique: Medical student are trained in English and communication skills.
His English is bad.
Probably a medical student in the north.
No they are not trained in English. Please tell me the university that has English as part of the medical courses. After taking general courses in their first year, the move to the medical school there they don't take English courses. Also, I have seen a good number of Indian doctors in the US with not too good English yet people don't complain. But my Nigerian people must complain about everything .
And there was no need for that tribalism. The north has nothing to do with this discussion.
Alusiizizi: You are at least one of the following: 1) A stvpid fvcktard African that for whatever reason finds self empty of traditional upbringing, turns around and now seeks to infect our culture with poisonous elements.
2) A stvpid fvcktard foreigner on a campaign to infect our culture with poisonous elements.
We get the likes of you on this forum all the time. Whenever posts of girls/women disgracing themselves are made, you feature prominently in the list of commentators, always the same flawed, insufferably asinine logic, "that's how they behave in America therefore it must be a good thing", "right to privacy", and more such nonsense, but when threads concerned with issues relating to the progress and well-being of Nigerians and Africans in general come up, you and your kind are no-where to be found.
I don't blame you. The weak will always remain weak. The spoiled will always remain spoiled. Decadence always seeks company and therefore always seeks to corrupt those around them. Most Nigerians/Africans do not yet see that a war is currently being waged against them. A war of radio waves, key-boards and propaganda. A war in which the antagonists seek to destroy their very soul, thence robbing them of identity. The moniker that I am directing this response to, along with many others that make appearance in threads like this are agents, probably even paid by some enterprise with the just described agenda. Nigerians/African, you have been asleep for far to long, the time has come to finally awake from slumber, see this raging war for what it is, and fight for whatever is left of your identity. I hope this message meets you well.
Alusiizizi: We do have a morality, you stvpid fvcktard! If you don't see this then you're probably live with dogs.
See Mr morality using street language. Bloody hypocrite. That's the thing with black men like you. You claim a form a righteousness but in reality you are evil and worse than those you comdemn. No one from a good family can use such language online. At least respect your parents and upbringing if you had any. A girl dances naked and you use vulgar language but you believe you are the good guy
Alusiizizi: Oh and one more thing. Evidently you haven't studied or even been to the US. In most parts of the US public display of nudity is sanctioned, believe it or not.
you are really ignorant. Even Cheerleaders in school sports dance in more crazy apparel. Even if you can't travel. Google
slawormiir: Damnnn niggar Eyaaa Sorry ehnn....so your papa even dey get contract
Na im you off your clothes because of 30,000 naira
I be even dey think say na poverty make her off clothes
Ogbeni.....that na within the pool...you can only wear such within the pool... You nor go fit wear such thing pass the school gate to the pool...infact if a girl wear skirt way short pass that knee level....the school security at the gate is supposed to send her back
How I wished you studied in the us, you would know that this is nothing. In Nigeria we claim a morality we don't even have. This same society that is filled with corruption is forming morals
LiegeMan: hello Nairalanders, sorry for the long write-up, it's LiegeMan again. my name is Mr Omale liegeman and I'm from Kogi State, I thank you all for your kind advice on the other thread regarding my wife's past life and I can assure you all that I decided to put to use some of the advice from here ( yes, I read all the 590+ comments from A-Z) and it's yielding positive result as I've been experiencing happiness as never before in my life, though majority of Nairalanders who contributed in the previous post failed to understand my point of view because I was trying to make the post as snappy as possible. Thank you all once more.
Now, while I was planning ways to work things out with my wife with some of the advice that I gathered here, my Aunty who's married to an Igbo man from Imo state called me that her daughter, who's a student of Imo State University (Imsu) came home during weekend, Saturday precisely, locked herself up in a room and has been crying ever since without food nor water, and has refused to see nor talk to anyone. I advice them to keep an eye on her so as to prevent her from attempting something stupid, she assured me that they broke into her apartment where she locked up Herself and brought her out.
So on Sunday, being 31 day of October, 2021, I left everything that I was doing in Makurdi and rushed to their village in Imo State, on getting there, I observed that both her hands and legs were tied and when I inquired why, she told me that it was an attempt to prevent her from escaping. I asked them to untie her, she was still crying when I asked her to go dress up that I'll be taking her out, she quickly went inside and dressed up we left the village for Orlu.
When we reached Orlu, we entered into a restaurant, and I started asking her what the problem was, I inquired if it was her boyfriend that broke her heart, she said no, I later succeeded in making her to tell me what the problem was because she's my closest ally.
when she opened up, she told me that she decided to do a little gbaje gbaje, ie do a little runs, she booked an appointment with a man and when she reached the said hotel, she and the Man started romancing and kissing and after awhile, the man started hissing uncontrollably, she inquired from the man what the problem was, he told her that what he wanted to take from her has been taken by someone else, in her confused state, she asked the man what he meant by that, the man looked her into her eyeballs and told her that she's empty, that what he intended taking from her has been taken by another person, he counted the said amount they bargain and handed it over to her and ordered her to get out of the hotel premises. I tried to console her by telling her that the man didn't mean what he said, that maybe his manhood disappointed him, he said those to cover his shame and I also advice her to be very careful because Xmas it at hand, immediately I told her those, she became relieved and stopped crying but I know right inside of me, that what the man said wasn't a joke at all.
when we got home, the news didn't go down well with her mother as tears started rolling down her cheek, she is planning a way to take her daughter to different prayer houses.
Now what exactly is this man talking about, what exactly did he take from her, is it her womb, destiny or what? please house, any advice for this kid cousin of mine? or way to find out what has been taken from her and get her liberated.
Your story dey sound one kind. So because a man told her that she is empty, she became depressed. All the why she has been living a happy life free from trouble until a stranger told her she is empty. Well, I agree with the man if her head isn't empty, why is she getting so worked up. Or is any part of her body missing? Nigerians and funny stories
YOU CANNOT KNOW WHAT THE BIBLE WAS TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE YOU WERE RAISED AS A GENTILE, WHILE PROVERBS WAS WRITTEN TO HEBREW Y'SRAELITES.
[color=silver].[/color] GENESIS 18:17-33.
17. And The LORD Said,
"Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do; 18. "Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the Earth shall be Blessed in him? 19. "For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep The Way of The LORD, to do Justice and Judgment; that The LORD may bring upon Abraham that which He hath spoken of him."
[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 6:1-9.
NOW these are the Commandments, the Statutes, and the Judgments, Which The LORD your God Commanded to teach you, that ye might do Them in the land whither ye go to possess it: 2. That thou mightest fear The LORD thy God, to keep all his Statutes and His Commandments, Which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged. 3. Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do It; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as The LORD God of thy Fathers hath Promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey. 4. Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: 5. And thou shalt love The LORD thy God with all thine Heart, and with all thy Soul, and with all thy Might. 6. And these Words, which I Command thee this Day, shall be in thine heart: 7. And thou shalt teach Them diligently unto thy Children, and shalt talk of Them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 8. And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. 9. And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.
Y'SRAELITES HAD A SACRED OBLIGATION TO RAISE THEIR OWN CHILDREN IN THE WAY OF GOD.
No one else was mandated to do this.
No Priest nor Rabbi was supposed to teach them- that is nonsense.
Their parents were to teach them THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD between the ages of 13 through 20.
[color=silver].[/color] EXODUS 21:1-11.
"NOW these are the Judgments which thou shalt set before them. 2. "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. 3. "If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him. 4. "If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself. 5. "And if the servant shall plainly say, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free:' 6." Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever. 7. "And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do. 8. "If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her. 9. "And if he have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters. 10. "If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish. 11. "And if he do not these three unto her, then shall she go out free without money."
THE GIRLS WHO FAILED TO ATTAIN SINLESS PERFECTION BY AGE 20 WERE TO BE SOLD INTO SLAVERY, OR MARRIED OFF- ASSUMING THEY DIDN'T COMMIT SOME CAPITAL SIN.
[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 21:18-21.
18. If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: 19. Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the Elders of his city, and unto the Gate of his place; 20. And they shall say unto the Elders of his city, "This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard." 21. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
BUT THE BOYS WHO STILL COMMITTED DELIBERATE SINS BY AGE 20 WERE TO BE SUMMARILY EXECUTED BY THEIR OWN PARENTS.
Y'sraelite righteous life was to be taken every seriously.
When Sinners were allowed to grow up, and proliferate, that is how Ysrael became corrupt, and eventually, the Righteous were the ones outlawed, whilst Hypocrites and Sinners controlled The Judicial Process.
Attaining THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD Anointing was "THE WAY A CHILD OUGHT TO GO," and no other Gentile knows anything about this, at this time.
[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.
19. I call Heaven and Earth to record this Day against you, that I have set before you Life and Death, Blessing and Cursing: therefore choose Life,
That both thou and thy seed may live:
20. That thou mayest love The LORD thy God,
and that thou mayest obey His Voice,
and that thou mayest cleave unto Him:
for He is thy life, and the length of thy days:
that thou mayest dwell in the Land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.
[color=silver].[/color] 2nd CHRONICLES 16:9.
9. "For The Eyes of The LORD run to and fro throughout the whole Earth, to shew Himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward Him. Herein thou hast done foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars."
[color=silver].[/color] AMOS 3:3.
3. "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"
[color=silver].[/color] ZECHARIAH 4:10.
10. For who hath despised the Day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are The Eyes of The LORD, Which run to and fro through the whole Earth.
Dtruthspeaker: And yet again you throw another somersault declaring "If one is a thief, then all are thieves."
I have no choice but to stay silent to the fact that You love unfairness, imbalance, injustice and bias. I sure do hope you remember rejoice when unfairnes, injustice and partiality is given to you.
We all have seen that in this living world, there are different types of Truths and we understand their places, functions and even their limits.
And it is not a problem at all.
But to you evil things, except a thing is evil, you shall seek something to complain about the Good.
That is your way.
so your point is that the Bible is partly true and partly false right?
MaxInDHouse: Don't worry my friend being BORN AGAIN is a totally different topic, for your information i know the BORN AGAIN Christians but i'm not one of them. So that's a totally different topic entirely from what we're discussing presently. But i can see where you're coming from so thanks for your time!
Christianity Etc › Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by tctrills(op): 8:40am On Nov 14, 2021
