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WriterNig:
[color=black]The US has crashed more aircrafts in training this year than 🇷🇺 Russia that is fighting in a war has. More than 30 crashes in just the last 4 months.

🇺🇸 US military aircrafts are flying coffins. World's number 1 🤡 Army indeed.

United States Of Americrash. 😂 [/color]


👍🏻 Like for Russia-Putin, share for USA/Nazi/NATO 卍

It just simply mean that they have more aircrafts than most other nation.

gaskiyamagana:
Bend your head over your chest in shame to be a believer in biblical God of ERRORS AND MISTAKE that even rarely common to man except a fraudulent person. Those who are better off you in everything in Christianity keep have no audacity to try talk, let alone write jargons like you about Islam let alone Allah. But I could have been amazed if Allah Who created you have not said many things about you, your types and others who are WORSE than you 1445yrs ago!!!.

Unfortunately
1. Your Allah did not create me. He is limited in everything that could make him even close
2. Is it untrue that that According to your Islamic doctrine, Allah has destined me to do exactly as I am doing (Dismantling Islam with the Truth)

If I am doing exactly what your Allah has programmed for me, why are you angry?


Don't you believe in Al-Qadar again?

gaskiyamagana:
Fraudulent bible of ERRORBILE and MISTAKEABLE Biblical God whom his sons are now deleting, removing and correcting him because some of his words/verses are shameful and disgraceful to what they want people to believe and accept in their religion of SCAM.

Your God Allah who you follow thinks otherwise meaning that he is lacking in knowledge and you are wiser and more knowledgeable than him

I doff my hat for you

gaskiyamagana:
Story, story, story,
God did not write any chapter of the bible, WHY attributing 'Holy ' that is of God to the Bible as 'holy Bible ' are you saying, we should remove holy from it since it is full of ERRORS AND MISTAKEs?

Answer to my queries on the Book written and dictated by Allah himself if you dare and I will use you to mop the floor!

How come only the Qur'an is dictated by Allah of any scripture from any prophet if not that it is a fraudulent 419 compilation?

Ohyoudidnt:
Where am I mandated or compelled to answer a never satisfied questioner. Fortunately the are over 6.9 billion other people you can ask and otherwise you can do independent research.

Nothing is new

Why does the fear of the people implications of the revelation of the Truth haunt you this bad?

It is true that a Muslim is a person whose mantra is:
Don't confuse me with the Truth because I have already made up my mind!

helinues:


USA and NATO have already colonized the poor Ukraine. The rebuilding of Ukraine contracts have been awarded to USA contractors and their allies in exchange for natural resources of course.

They led Ukraine Into senseless war, Collect their savings in the name of providing the latest weapons, while no dime was sent in cash , all are in Aids abi na HIV

Now,the rebuilding process which means whoever Ukraine president would be for decade to come, the person must be a puppet to the West.

Btw, Russia vs Ukraine, Israel vs Palestine wars are not coincidence, remember I said everything USA have been sending to trouble countries are all in Aids, heh heh, the contractors who supplied those Aids are USA politicians meaning the war was for the USA politicians to generate money from their reelection.

Hecklefish, Yeepsy

1. If Ukraine had surrendered, it would have ceased to exist as a nation. It will just be another state in Russia.
2. Ukraine refused to surrender: it had led to deaths to both Russians and Ukrainians.

Some people feel that being a perpetual slave is better than being dead!
Some other people says death before slavery!

Where do you stand?

Irijosa777:
Greetings, I will make it short as possible.
My marriage will be coming up next week. Day before yesterday my boss call me to his office and ask me what do I want him to do for me concerning my marriage. I was short of words, he asked me the second time what do I want from him. I felt humble, surprised and speechless at the same. He then asked me if I have bought my wedding suit I said "yes sir!" He then asked me again "so what do you want me to do for you?"

Since I could not speak he told me to go and think about it. I'm planning to meet him tomorrow.

One mind is telling me as ask much ( since he is very rich) but it will sound greedy. One mind is telling me to ask just as much as I need but then it will appear I wasted opportunity. He is a rare philanthropist, very nice and love blessing people. Working in his company is more than a privilege...

The truth is that there's no nothing my boss can't afford but I don't want to be greedy.

If you were in shoe what will you do?

Please help me push to Fp mod

Since he has given you an open check, he must really like you.

Ask him that you will appreciate any Asset from him like land, house, bonds or company shares according to what he has to give you (his capacity).

Phrase your grammar very well o!
First appreciate his fatherly role and his love and concern over you

Ohyoudidnt:
Yeye black man forming British. Nice day indeed.
Quran 39:
43. Or have they chosen intercessors other than God? Say, “Even though they have no power over anything, and are devoid of reason?”

44. Say, “All intercession is up to God. To Him belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth. Then to Him you will be returned.”

Quran 53
26. How many an angel is there in the heavens whose intercession avails nothing, except after God gives permission to whomever He wills, and approves?

You no what it means to intercede?



Show or state the relation already.

After you answer my questions!
Is Al-Bait-al-Ma'mur a real house or not
Have a beautiful day

gaskiyamagana:
Solve problem of yours first, your FALLIBLE, ERRORBILE AND MISTAKEABLE Biblical God whom his sons discovered his errors and are now deleting, removing and correcting him with those missing bible verses I listed for your Master, TenQ which he can't answer.

Acting like a broken record doesn't help you.

1. God did not write any chapter of the Bible if you know of any, let me know.
2. Allah both wrote and dictated the Qur'an through Jibril isn't it.

A lying self appointed prophet created his own book claiming that Allah dictated it through Jibril. Show us any prophet you know who his God dictated his book to him.

Where is the verse of
1. Is it untrue that Stoning in the Qur'an, it used to be part of the Qur'an? Why was it deleted?
2. Where is the verse of the ten times breastfeeding of Adult men which was later abrogated to five in the Qur'an?
Neighet the ten nor the five is in todays quran: are you ashamed of the saying of Allah?
3. Is it untrue that the Qur'an "Surah Ahzab contained 200 verses during the lifetime of Prophet?
4. Is it untrue that 'Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you."
5. Where is the original Quran of Mohammed given to Hafsa?
6. Why is it that we have original Arabic Qur'ans of Hafs, Warsh, Qalun, Al-Duri and at least 26 other Qur'an. Which one of them is the Qur'an of Allah heaven?
7. Is it untrue that the Qur'an was delivered to Mohammed in 7 different dialects?
Of these dialects, how many exist? Is true that It is said that these 7 dialects (ahruf) belong to the following seven tribes: Quraysh, Hudhayl, Thaqeef, Hawaazin, Kinaanah, Tameem and a tribe of Yemen? If one Qur'an survive out of 7, is the Qur'an still perfectly preserved?
8. How about perfect errors in the Qur'an? : is it untrue that Allah says that the Christians and Jews worship their Rabbis and Monks as Lords INSTEAD of Allah and the Messiah?
9. Is this statement false?
`Abdullah b. `Umar reportedly said, 'Let none of you say, "I have got the whole of the Qur'an." How does he know what all of it is? MUCH OF THE QUR'AN HAS GONE. Let him say instead, "I have got what has survived."'
(Jalal al Din `Abdul Rahman b. Abi Bakr al Suyuti, al-Itqan fi `ulum al-Qur'an, Halabi, Cairo, 1935/1354, Volume 2, p. 25)

How about another of your Islamic Biographical book
Said Abu ‘Ubaid:
Isma’il b. Ibrahim related to us from Ayyub from Nafi‘ from Ibn ‘Umar who said – Let none of you say, “I have learned the whole of the Koran,” for how does he know what the whole of it is, WHEN MUCH OF IT HAS DISAPPEARED? Let him rather say, “I have learned what is extant thereof.”
Ibn( Warraq, Origins of the Koran – Classic Essays on Islam’s Holy Book [Prometheus Books, Amherst, NY 1998], Part Two: The Collections and the Variants of the Koran, 9. Abu ‘Ubaid on the Verses Missing from the Koran, by Arthur Jeffery, p. 151: bold, capital and underline emphasis ours)
10. Is Allah not a liar when he said:
Qur'an 2:106
None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that God Hath power over all things?


It says much of your Quran is lost. Is Abdullah bin Umar a Christian or Jew?


And a fool is speaking about verse of the English translation of the bible?
When you answer these ten facts against you, come back as I have given you the kind of answer deserving of you.


I challenge you to prove any of these ten as untrue statements of your corrupted ARABIC ORIGINAL Qur'ans!

Ohyoudidnt:
I believe we had an English class earlier on. That should do more so I don't teach.

I answered a question and am surprised you are still fishing for what you mean to say to close your case.

I am not surprised at you one bit.

Islam is a religion based on Hearsay that is devoid of reason or purpose. Your copy other people's religion and adopt it as yours without understanding the purpose or its basis.

This is why you can't explain many things in your religion.


Have a nice day sir!

Ohyoudidnt:
I am not in any way trying to impress you. Any that Allah deems fit and authorizes can intercede.

I did not ask you about authorization.

I said:


1. What does it mean to intercede for another?
2. Can a non-living being intercede for anyone?
3. Of all the attributes of Allah, which else can intercede or speak for a person?


Islamic theology always break down with questions because they were Doctrines created in the spur of the moment without any thought. This is why Mohammed aka Allah says that you shouldn't ask questions about his revelations!

gaskiyamagana:
Laugh!
Laughing !!
Laughing -inginging....... unlimited!!!
May be you need to re taught what Book of God or Word of God is; as well as the word 'Holy ' ; simply because your words:
' Biology notes'
'you can make comparison between ( biology) notes to clarify CONFUSION you may find in some notes ' ; are shameful and unbefitting to be associated with anything that has to with TRUE, HOLY AND INFALLIBLE GOD.
Again, your response to the missing verse is another ignorant of DEFICIENCIES of your holy book, yet arrogantly claiming knowledge of Islam holy book.
"If this occurrence happens in multiple places, then there will be rooms for concern."
Dodging or hypocrite or cover up that there are tens of verses remove or review from early bible as in the today bibles? Ask you co-Kafiruna and religion Nuisance in Nairaland, TenQ, l have listed them to him above in this subject matter, up till moment neither did he acknowledge or explain why biblical God is FALLIBLE, ERRORBILE AND MISTAKEABLE that his sons are shameful of and started deleting, removing and correcting their holy father's Words.
"...there could be errors of omission during the process.." ; as you said above is COMPLETE or PARTIAL acceptance that bible is fool of ERRORS?

1. God did not write any chapter of the Bible if you know of any, let me know.
2. Allah both wrote and dictated the Qur'an through Jibril isn't it.

A lying self appointed prophet created his own book claiming that Allah dictated it through Jibril. Show us any prophet you know who his God dictated his book to him.

Where is the verse of
1. Is it untrue that Stoning in the Qur'an, it used to be part of the Qur'an isn't it?
2. Where is the verse of the ten times breastfeeding of Adult men which was later abbrogated to five in the Qur'an?
3. Is it untrue that the Qur'an "Surah Ahzab contained 200 verses during the lifetime of Prophet?
4. Is it untrue that 'Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you."
5. Where is the original Quran of Mohammed given to Hafsa?
6. Why is it that we have original Arabic Qur'ans of Hafs, Warsh, Qalun, Al-Duri and at least 26 other Qur'an. Which one of them is the Qur'an of Allah heaven?
7. Is it untrue that the Qur'an was delivered to Mohammed in 7 different dialects?
Of these dialects, how many exist? Is true that It is said that these 7 dialects (ahruf) belong to the following seven tribes: Quraysh, Hudhayl, Thaqeef, Hawaazin, Kinaanah, Tameem and a tribe of Yemen? If one Qur'an survive out of 7, is the Qur'an still perfectly preserved?
8. How about perfect errors in the Qur'an? : is it untrue that Allah says that the Christians and Jews worship their Rabbis and Monks as Lords INSTEAD of Allah and the Messiah?
9. Is this statement false?
`Abdullah b. `Umar reportedly said, 'Let none of you say, "I have got the whole of the Qur'an." How does he know what all of it is? MUCH OF THE QUR'AN HAS GONE. Let him say instead, "I have got what has survived."'
(Jalal al Din `Abdul Rahman b. Abi Bakr al Suyuti, al-Itqan fi `ulum al-Qur'an, Halabi, Cairo, 1935/1354, Volume 2, p. 25)

How about another of your Islamic Biographical book
Said Abu ‘Ubaid:
Isma’il b. Ibrahim related to us from Ayyub from Nafi‘ from Ibn ‘Umar who said – Let none of you say, “I have learned the whole of the Koran,” for how does he know what the whole of it is, WHEN MUCH OF IT HAS DISAPPEARED? Let him rather say, “I have learned what is extant thereof.”
Ibn( Warraq, Origins of the Koran – Classic Essays on Islam’s Holy Book [Prometheus Books, Amherst, NY 1998], Part Two: The Collections and the Variants of the Koran, 9. Abu ‘Ubaid on the Verses Missing from the Koran, by Arthur Jeffery, p. 151: bold, capital and underline emphasis ours)
10. Is Allah not a liar when he said:
Qur'an 2:106
None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that God Hath power over all things?


It says much of your Quran is lost. Is Abdullah bin Umar a Christian or Jew?


And a fool is speaking about verse of the English translation of the bible?
When you answer these ten facts against you, come back as I have given you the kind of answer deserving of you.


I challenge you to prove any of these ten as untrue statements of your corrupted ARABIC ORIGINAL Qur'ans!

Ohyoudidnt:
Is your speech or writing you?

I asked you three Questions:

1. What does it mean to intercede for another?
2. Can a non-living being intercede for anyone?
3. Of all the attributes of Allah, which else can intercede or speak for a person?

And I wasn't disappointed in your first response as I said:
I am too sure you will do everything to avoid answering these three questions.

Ohyoudidnt:
I see that you are gradually getting to it. Fantastic!

How can the Quran be independent of Allah? Is it no longer the words/speech of Allah? Is your speach independent of you? Do your words come out of your lips unconsciously or beyond your control?

If your deeds will be evaluated why not your deed of reciting/reading the Quran? More so when you read, understand and put what you read into practice.

Allah chooses who or what will intercede. In all Allah himself too will intercede.

Is repugnant argumentative nature your partner?

1. What does it mean to intercede for another?
2. Can a non-living being intercede for anyone?
3. Of all the attributes of Allah, which else can intercede or speak for a person?

I am too sure you will do everything to avoid answering these three questions.





This is a problem caused by your prophet!
The Quran is not Allah, yet is is uncreated and eternal, leading to serious implications!

Ohyoudidnt:
I needed to ascertain there wasn't another Hadith.

What do you understand by
"And verily, it is in the Mother of Book with Us"?

What does it is refer to?

What is the it that is?

Okay. I agree with you.


You have insisted that:
1. The Qur'an is an attribute of the speech of Allah
2. The Qur'an is uncreated
3. The Qur'an is eternal.



If this is true, then the Qur'an is a partner with Allah because the
1. The Qur'an is a living being
2. The Qur'an is independent of Allah

Before you cry
1. Qur'an will come as an intercessor and only a living conscious being can be an intercession

Riyad as-Salihin 991
Abu Umamah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:
I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) saying, "Read the Qur'an, for it will come as an intercessor for its reciters on the Day of Resurrection."


2. Even specific chapters of the Qur'an will intercede for you Muslims

Sahih Muslim 804a
Abu Umāmah said he heard Allah’s Messenger ﷺ say, “Recite the Qur’an, for on the Day of Resurrection it will come as an intercessor for those who recite it. Recite the two bright ones, al-Baqarah and Sūrah ale-Imran, for on the Day of Resurrection they will come as two clouds or two shades, or two flocks of birds in ranks, pleading for those who recite them. Recite Sūrah al-Baqarah, for to take recourse to it is a blessing and to give it up is a cause of grief, and the magicians cannot confront it.”


3. Mohammed described how the Qur'an will come to people as a Pale man

Sunan Ibn Majah 3781
It was narrated from Ibn Buraidah that his father told that the Messenger of Allah(ﷺ) said:
"The Quran will come on the Day of Resurrection, like a pale man, and will say: 'I am the one that kept you awake at night and made you thirsty during the day."


4. Intercessors are allowed only on the permission of Allah.
Qur'an 20:109
“On that day no intercession shall avail, except the one for whom the Most Gracious (Allah) has given permission and whose word is acceptable to Him”
Qur'an 2:255
“Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His Permission?”

If Allah gives the Qur'an permission to intercede for Muslims, then the Qur'an must be conscious, living being!

Meaning that the Quran is both Alive and independent of Allah!

Ohyoudidnt:
I needed to ascertain there wasn't another Hadith.

What do you understand by
"And verily, it is in the Mother of Book with Us"?

What does it is refer to?

What is the it that is?

According to your prophet :
The mother of All books refer to the Book Allah WROTE (with the Pen he created first)

If the Pen came before the Mother of All books, how can the Pen be created and the Book is uncreated?

Is this not a contradiction?

ahmedio2017:
Shut your dirty mouth up,, I told you Allah is in the heaven sitting on a throne called Al-harashi... How many times do I have to repeat myself and teach you what u don't know... Honestly you have been programmed.....
Anyways I won't waste my time with you. Because you refused to be enlightened....

Thank you sir. (Even though I am not sure we have ever discussed this: you probably mixed me up with someone else)

How about
4. Is Al-Bait-al-Ma'mur a real house or not?

ahmedio2017:
Liar, what we've already discussed....
This further shows your level of competency...

LIAR

How can a question be a lie or are you just programmed to say so?


1. Where then is Allah according to Mohammed?
4. Is Al-Bait-al-Ma'mur a real house or not

souljay007:
Fellow christian Nairalanders... The scripture John 3:16..." For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life......Why is it so popular and known by every christian,even the children...I can remember it was the first bible scripture i memorized... Why?

This is the summary of the purpose of Christ on earth
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Jesus explained HOW to be Born Again in this Chapter.

It starts from verse 1 of chapter 3

1. Condition for Salvation:
[3] Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

2. The Meaning of Being Born Again
[6] That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

3. Explanation of How to Be Born Again
[14] And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
[15] That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Numbers 21:4-8
4 They traveled from Mount Hor along the route to the Red Sea, to go around Edom. But the people grew impatient on the way; 5 they spoke against God and against Moses, and said, “Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? There is no bread! There is no water! And we detest this miserable food!”
6 Then the Lord sent venomous snakes among them; they bit the people and many Israelites died. 7 The people came to Moses and said, “We sinned when we spoke against the Lord and against you. Pray that the Lord will take the snakes away from us.” So Moses prayed for the people.
8 The Lord said to Moses, “Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.

Explanation:
Nicodemus needed no breakdown of this a a scholar of the Torah
1. Children of Israel fell into sin against God
2. God allowed the Judgement of Poisonous snakes against them
3. Every known medical solution and intervention failed to help the children of Israel
4. After several thousands of the children of Israel had died, the leaders of the children went to ask Moses to intercede for them
5. Moses went to intercede with God for the children of Israel
6. Instead of God removing the snakes, God instead provided HIS OWN SOLUTION
7. Gods solution was that Moses should hang a bronze snake in the middle of the camp of Israel:
The one who is bitten by the snake should go up and LOOK at the image of the snake on the pole:
ANYONE who Believes in Gods Solution will NOT Die but Live.


Jesus said:
Just as the Bronze Serpent was hung up on a pole, so that whoever Believes in God's SOLUTION will not die but live
So, Also
Jesus will be hung up on the cross so that whoever Believes in God's SOLUTION will not perish but have eternal life with God in Paradise.

This is probably one of the most powerful verse in the whole Bible: it is the summary of the whole of the Christian faith!

Ohyoudidnt:
There is no difficulty.

You probably have variant answers dependent on my answer so it doesn't matter hence you should say what you want to say.

You want to first ascertain the correctness of your view? Don't be afraid to err

I don't have variant answer from the one you give me, this is why it's a Question sir!

Ohyoudidnt:
Write out the full hadith

I posted the full hadith for you Sir.

Again :



Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2155
Abdul-Wahid bin Sulaim narrated:
"I arrived in Makkah and met 'Ata bin Abi Rabah. I said to him: 'O Abu Muhammad! The people of Al-Basrah speak about Al-Qadar.' He said: 'O my son! Do you recite the Quran?' I said: 'Yes.' He said: 'Then recite Az-Zukhruf to me.'" He said: 'So I recited: Ha Mim. By the manifest Book. Verily, We have made it a Qur'an in Arabic that you may be able to understand. And verily, it is in the Mother of Book with Us, indeed exalted, full of wisdom. Then he said: 'Do you know what Mother of Books is?' I said: 'Allah and His Messenger know better.' He said:'It is a book that Allah wrote before He created the Heavens, and before He created the earth. In it, it is (written): Fir'awn is among the inhabitants of the Fire, and in it is: Perish the two hands of Abu Lahab, and perish he!'Ata said: 'I met Al-Walid the son of 'Ubadah bin As-Samit the Companion of the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) and asked him:'What was your father's admonition when he died?" He said:"He called me and said: 'O my son ! Have Taqwa of Allah, and know that you will never have Taqwa of Allah until you believe in Allah, and you believe in Al-Qadar- all of it-its good and its bad. If you die upon other than this you shall enter the Fire. Indeed I heard the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) saying: "Verily the first of what Allah created was the Pen. So He said: 'Write.' It said : 'What shall I write?' He said : 'Write Al-Qadar, what it is , and what shall be, until the end.'"

How then is an attribute of the speech of Allah uncreated and eternal when it was written as a book (except if the Qur'an as a Recitation existed before it was written)?
What is the true and final answer?

ogugwa1992:
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SMH!

Ohyoudidnt:
Does the hadith say the Mother of the book is the Quran?

Except Allah wrote two Qur'ans: your prophet said about the Qur'an

He said: 'It is a book that Allah wrote before He created the Heavens, and before He created the earth.He said:'It is a book that Allah wrote before He created the Heavens, and before He created the earth.

If Allah wrote it before he created the Heavens and the earth, it cannot be uncreated nor eternal nor an attribute of Allah.

I just need an explanation!

Ohyoudidnt:
Your opinion. I had long requested you use your known answers to your questions to show what you say? If the showing is dependent on my answer it then proves you know not what you claim and your conclusion is wrong.

What is so difficult in answering the questions
1. Where then is Allah according to Mohammed?
4. Is Al-Bait-al-Ma'mur a real house or not

You are the first person I will ask these two questions on Nairaland. Or have you see me ask anyone before?

gaskiyamagana:
The One Who sent me is Bigger than me. In other words, name of the one who sent Jesus is mightier than Jesus name. Stop the overzealousness.

The Father sent the Son: do you believe in the Father?

gaskiyamagana:
Why then some verses of early bible were deleted from modern Bibles if biblical God don't make mistake?

Can you show just one evidence that God wrote the Bible like Allah wrote and dictated the Qur'an?

gaskiyamagana:
Just as you are entangled in not knowing why some words/verses in bible are no longer reasonable to be there, therefore the were removed?

I can only discuss with you from what you believe and not what you don't. According to your claim, Allah is a failure and
My concern is that one of his slaves is trying to show how he is wiser than his Allah by insinuating that
1. Allah cannot keep his books because he is powerless to do so
2. Allah seem to disagree with you at least as of the time of Mohammed


You believe in the Qur'an and this is my defence for your offence Sir.

Ohyoudidnt:
What? We have had it concisely addressed that Islam is fundamentally monotheistic. This is Tauhid.

This is just a mere belief that you avoid answering questions because it exposes the frailty of Allah as God.

Ohyoudidnt:
That we don't have a similar contradiction of a triune trinity monotheism is what you haven't proven.

Another falsehood because except you use your Strawman argument, it cannot pass.
Enough illustrations from things which exist in Islam had been used to educate you but you remain a donkey carrying a load of books but understand nothing

Ohyoudidnt:
Simply put your further questions are just blank shots unrelated to monotheism.

Trust me, they are and that is why you are afraid to answer them. What is so difficult in answering the questions
1. Where then is Allah according to Mohammed?
4. Is Al-Bait-al-Ma'mur a real house or not

Ohyoudidnt:
The Qur'an is the word of Allah, uncreated, and not a mere attribute of
Allah. It is considered an attribute of His speech (kalam), which is linked to His divine essence, and thus it is eternal and uncreated.

"Say, if the sea were ink for [writing] the words of my Lord, the sea would be exhausted before the words of my Lord were exhausted, even if We brought the like of it as a supplement.(Quran 18:109)

It indicates that the words of Allah, which include the Quran, are a manifestation of His infinite knowledge and eternal attribute.

If I get you correctly, you said :
1. The Qur'an is an attribute of the speech of Allah
2. The Qur'an is uncreated
3. The Qur'an is eternal.


Isn't these a contradiction with another Authentic hadith of Mohammed?
The Hadith says:
1. The Qur'an was written as a book before the heavens and the earth were created. Then it cannot be eternal.
2. The Pen by which the Qur'an was written was the First thing Allah created! Meaning that the Pen of Allah predates the Qur'an!


Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2155
Abdul-Wahid bin Sulaim narrated:
"I arrived in Makkah and met 'Ata bin Abi Rabah. I said to him: 'O Abu Muhammad! The people of Al-Basrah speak about Al-Qadar.' He said: 'O my son! Do you recite the Quran?' I said: 'Yes.' He said: 'Then recite Az-Zukhruf to me.'" He said: 'So I recited: Ha Mim. By the manifest Book. Verily, We have made it a Qur'an in Arabic that you may be able to understand. And verily, it is in the Mother of Book with Us, indeed exalted, full of wisdom. Then he said: 'Do you know what Mother of Books is?' I said: 'Allah and His Messenger know better.' He said:'It is a book that Allah wrote before He created the Heavens, and before He created the earth. In it, it is (written): Fir'awn is among the inhabitants of the Fire, and in it is: Perish the two hands of Abu Lahab, and perish he!'Ata said: 'I met Al-Walid the son of 'Ubadah bin As-Samit the Companion of the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) and asked him:'What was your father's admonition when he died?" He said:"He called me and said: 'O my son ! Have Taqwa of Allah, and know that you will never have Taqwa of Allah until you believe in Allah, and you believe in Al-Qadar- all of it-its good and its bad. If you die upon other than this you shall enter the Fire. Indeed I heard the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) saying: "Verily the first of what Allah created was the Pen. So He said: 'Write.' It said : 'What shall I write?' He said : 'Write Al-Qadar, what it is , and what shall be, until the end.'"

How then is an attribute of the speech of Allah uncreated and eternal when it was written as a book (except if the Qur'an as a Recitation existed before it was written)?
What is the true and final answer?

Munamu:
You this fake born again xtian, so there are no Palestinian xtians abi? Iranu!

Palestinian Christian in Hamas!?

Ohyoudidnt:
Thank you very much.

Indeed, Allah is described in the Qur'an as the Creator of everything. The word of Allah refers to His command,speech, and the revelations He sent down to His
prophets. For instance, the Qur'an, which is the direct Word of Allah, was revealed for guidance.


Allah says in the Qur'an:

"Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian. (Qur'an 15:9)

The concept of the 'Word' of Allah also includes the command "Be, and it is" (kun fa-yakun), which is mentioned in several places in the Quran (e.g., 2:117,
3:47, 6:73, 16:40, 19:35, 36:82, 40:68) to describe the ease and immediacy with which Allah can will anything into existence.

Apply all these to your monotheistic triune belief.

Let me assume you have finally thrown in the towel about answering my simple questions to test your claim of Allah!
Like I said:
A believe is NOTHING if it cannot be questioned according to the records of the belief in Question.

Now, you brought in the issue of the WORD "Be! " or Kunfayakun of Allah and the Qur'an.

Let me ask you this Question :
1. Is the Qur'an Created by Allah or it is just a mere Attribute of Allah?

[quote author= post=129109459]Source: https://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2024/3/man-slumps-and-dies-during-heated-argument-in-kwara.html[/quote]Muslims will be fasting and fighting at the same time: I wonder how they find such behaviours easy to do.!