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Ohyoudidnt:
When yours is a polytheism clothed in a fraud trinity, where and how did you defeat the islamic monotheism?

لا إلَهَ إلَّا اللَّهُ
La Ilaha Illallah
there is no god, deity or being which deserves to be worshipped and obeyed except Allah

Allah al-Ahad al-Wahid emphasizes the Oneness and Unity of God in Islam.

Allah al-Ahad al-Wahid emphasize the One (Al-Ahad) and the Only (Al-Wahid), emphasizing His uniqueness, indivisibility, and incomparability.

How many councils were used to establish a Trinity?

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Ohyoudidnt:
Don't mind SIRTee15, Advocatejare, TenQ, MightySparrow,Aemmyjah and their lots diverting from the reality of the polytheism they practice in the trinity guise of Christianity.

In Arabian culture, the proverb “when the shin is made bare” signifies a situation where someone’s true intentions or character are revealed. It implies that when a person’s shin is exposed or uncovered, their true nature or motives become apparent. This proverb is often used to describe moments when hidden truths come to light or when someone’s facade is stripped away, revealing their genuine self.

GoodGovernance:
Stupid talk.

The earlier you know that Hamas is less than 1% of Palestine population,the better for you.

Or you think the 36000 Palestinians so far murdered are Hamas?

You fools would want to describe Niger Delta militants as freedom fighters but effortlessly describe Hamas that was a creation of the occupation of Palestinian land,as terrorists.

The same fools would plea for our military to only deal with the terrorises that killed our soldiers without harming innocent people in Delta state,but would justify and are very happy with the genocide going on in Palestine.

motayoayinde:
The thug of Israel is a drowning man.

It's almost six months into the war with small Hamas with almost nothing to show except the murder of kids and the sick.

Unprecedented international isolated and rising jew-hate around the world.

Huge idf losses in Gaza.

Massive weekly protests calling for the head of the thug in Tel Aviv.

Serious internal crises with his top military officers.

Now the thug is desperate and wants to divert attention and drag in the United Snakes by a cowardly attack on the Iranian embassy.

Iran?
I dey laugh.

The thug is dragging Israel to its last days.

God1000:
Is that how they met the hospital?


Such wilful destruction.

Ohyoudidnt:
Thank you. I am very dull so why are you trying to keep a reasonable conversation with me?

Empiree:
Guy, could you please not bring religion into this?. We are talking about occupation and genocide of Palestinians by Israel here. This thread is not about religion. Thank you

Ohyoudidnt:
Going with the argument you are bringing what essence is Jesus being the greatest or the one through which creation was done? Does it make him equal to God or co-divine with God?

Ohyoudidnt:
Really. Do you see the lie of your 1 is 3 and 3 is 1? What abstract mathematics is this?

Ohyoudidnt:
Yes I say Christians derailed from Monotheism. I put the difference with Arianism on purpose because regardless of the honour they give Jesus they don't commit excesses by equating Jesus with God.

Ohyoudidnt:
I know monotheism and a monotheist but don't understand the phrase monotheist christianity but ask you if there is polytheist christianity. You should have the other if the former exists?

Ohyoudidnt:
In saying Allah is the Messiah the Christian and those who say such have partnered Allah with the messiah. May Allah forbid.

Ohyoudidnt:
So is the trinity belief of Christianity monotheism?

Ohyoudidnt:
2. Why did the followers of Jesus allegedly form a new religion despite Jesus asking they obey the priests in the scripture but not their ways? Did the priests not practice Judaism?

Ohyoudidnt:
Where did Jesus disagree or disaprove Judaism?

Ohyoudidnt:
Really. I believe it's the one who's questions are so voluminous and constricted it's difficult to keep it short and simple.

Harnny:
the day you understand your religion and how you are supposed to worship and how Jesus worshipped God... that is when you will stop calling Muslims head slammer. Despite all your hate, no true Muslim will ever slander your religion.

Harnny:
Second time you have failed to answer any of my questions but sends in more of your own and leave the point to explore more areas.

Let me remind you, the discussion started with you calling Muslims head slammers. I asked you... How did your scripture recommend you pray and worship God? No answer.

Harnny:
Secondly, I asked you, would you rather be bodily filthy to worship God? No answer.

Harnny:
you went about telling me more about spiritual cleanliness. So why do you bother bathing before going to church?
Would you rather call and worship God while you are in the toilet than do this at the altar or somewhere clean?

Harnny:
I told you, the term is not reserved for non-Muslims alone, being unclean is a state that anyone can change at any time but you are hell-bent on attaching your own meaning to it..

Harnny:
Would you rather just have sex with all the ooze and pray, or would you rather clean up like you are meeting with your boss, benefactor, and lord?

Harnny:
what is the Offence of the Jews? You are funny, I have never met a Muslim who has an issue with Jews, they are people of the books. Tell me where Muslims have ever persecuted Jews. You don't know your religion's history. One of the problems in the Middle East is a result of the magnanimous Muslims accepting Jews with open arms. Do you even know Jews would rather worship in a Mosque than a Church? go figure.

Harnny:
But ALL Muslims are Rightly guided isn't it?... you don't read to understand... I do not see where I excluded Muslims from people of the book. Makes them liable to go astray as well.

Harnny:
Once again, I would expect you to ignore all my questions and ask more of your own.... also sir, you do not decide who goes to Hell, that's up to God to decide at his discretion.

Ohyoudidnt:
Coward. Even behind the internet cover you can't say? A big pity

Ohyoudidnt:
1. Arians see Jesus as the greatest of all creation. By Arianism, Jesus is considered the first and highest of all created beings, but not God Himself.

Ohyoudidnt:
2. Define monotheist Christianity? Is there Polytheist Christianity? I understand monotheism.

("How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism"

Ohyoudidnt:
3. In as much as you have no issues using Catholic or Jehovah witness views. However the sects you mention have been used by you covertly by depending on a wide variety on different types of hadith.

Ohyoudidnt:
4. Your question indeed is a misnomer. How can you say a Unitary God is made of 3 separate entities? Is there not a contradiction or paradox?

How do you explain an essential unitary God that is a plurality in persons?

Ohyoudidnt:
5. Again like the Pharisee priests you aim to distort the scripture. Your statement is false as the translation of the meaning of that verse is
بِسْمِ اللّٰهِ الرَّحْمٰنِ الرَّحِيْمِ

لَقَدْ كَفَرَ الَّذِیْنَ قَالُوْۤا اِنَّ اللّٰهَ هُوَ الْمَسِیْحُ ابْنُ مَرْیَمَ١ؕ وَ قَالَ الْمَسِیْحُ یٰبَنِیْۤ اِسْرَآءِیْلَ اعْبُدُوا اللّٰهَ رَبِّیْ وَ رَبَّكُمْ١ؕ اِنَّهٗ مَنْ یُّشْرِكْ بِاللّٰهِ فَقَدْ حَرَّمَ اللّٰهُ عَلَیْهِ الْجَنَّةَ وَ مَاْوٰىهُ النَّارُ١ؕ وَ مَا لِلظّٰلِمِیْنَ مِنْ اَنْصَارٍ

Muhammad Pickthall

They surely disbelieve who say: Lol Allah is the Messiah , son of Mary. The Messiah (himself) said: O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Lo! whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah, for him Allah hath forbidden paradise. His abode is the Fire. For evil-doers there will be no helpers.

-Saheeh International
They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the Messiah , the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.

Yusuf Ali
They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.
Quran5:72

Ohyoudidnt:
6. Is there a question as you have confidently lied that Allah is the Messiah. May Allah forbid

Harnny:
lol, you left the main point but I will indulge you.

Najis is anyone not in a clean state, even Muslims. Purify yourself when you worship and try to remain pure, that's the basis of the concept.
All people of the scriptures have a threshold of being astray or to have incurred the wrath of God. The people of Soddom and Gomorrah and the Egyptian Pharaohs. Whether you believe the scriptures afterward or not, you have basic rules of God's requirement. Worship me and be good. Anything beyond that is astray and might incur the wrath of God except you repent and seek forgiveness.

Now tell me, how has your scripture mentioned to worship God, how has it mentioned the Angels worship him, How did Jesus himself pray to and worship the Father. Also, would you rather be filthy when you worship God?

Harnny:
the day you understand your religion and how you are supposed to worship and how Jesus worshipped God... that is when you will stop calling Muslims head slammer. Despite all your hate, no true Muslim will ever slander your religion.

shoodboi2:
Gibberish as usual. This isn't the first time they're attacking the hospital claiming Hamas is there.

The very first time, Israel even said Hamas had a tunnel that led to its headquarters under the hospital. Till today, Israel been unable to show us the so-called tunnel.

Instead, they showed us a calendar of the name of the months in Arabic, and claimed it was the names of Hamas fighters.

In the meantime, mods, please let's take this to the frontpage as part of Nairaland's contribution to the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

That time, even the CNN showed us evidence that Israel planted weapons in the hospital.

Ask Israel for a single video for a Hamas fighter killed inside the hospital and problem will begin.

All they do is to show us posters and staged photos telling us it's from Al-Shifa. Show us videos of Hamas fighters and the tunnels.

In the meantime, mods, please let's take this to the frontpage as part of Nairaland's contribution to the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

Ohyoudidnt:
I will need a clear understanding of what monotheist Christianity is? I know monotheism but struggle to understand what is monotheist Christianity.

It is not about considering what is okay or not okay. You rely on so many hadith of varied degree of authenticity and even misinterpret the Quran text due to lack of knowledge of arabic language. The major difference though is the Quran which was revealed in different recitation styles in accordance to dialect variations on word arrangements and pronouncements. There may be differences in translations of the meaning or commentary but the Quran is essential the same in Arabic language.

Can we say same about Christianity which devolved from Judaism and evolved over time? The numerous council meetings are fundamental to the creation of Christianity.

What is the difference between the Shia, Ahmadiyya and other Muslim sect Quran? Is
Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος translated by Jehovah witness as the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the word was a god? Reflecting a minority view that the Word is a distinct divine being but not equal to God the Father.

In Koine Greek, the article can have a range of meanings beyond the simple definite article (the) in English. In some contexts, the article can emphasize the quality or essence of the noun it modifies. In John 1:1, the absence of the article before θεός (God) in the last phrase and its presence before θεόν (God) in the second phrase have led some scholars to argue that the Word is distinct from, yet closely related to, God the Father.

The traditional Christian doctrine of the Trinity affirms the divinity of the Word (Jesus Christ) as equal to God the Father and the Holy Spirit. In this view, the Word shares the same divine essence as God the Father, and the absence of the article in John 1:1 does not undermine this equality.

On the other hand, non-Trinitarian interpretations, such as those held by Jehovah’s Witnesses and some Unitarians, argue that the Word is a distinct divine being, but not equal to God the Father.

Ohyoudidnt:
Who really is the author of the Gospel according to John? How reliable is it? Where is the Gospel of Jesus himself? Is it not strange that with how important it is there is no actual copy collated under the supervision of Jesus when he was on earth?

I will be back later in the day to continue please.

Ohyoudidnt:
Just noticed this "Are you this......!?"

What keeps the coward in you from making a clear statement? Going into your usual rude and repugnant abusive ways?

Ohyoudidnt:
Hmm, where do I start?

Can you authoritatively tell me who the author of the Gospel of John? Remember it is recorded in some Bible copies as the Gospel according to John. Is this not what a said John recollects however right or wrong?

specifically denies the divinity of Jesus Christ and instead considers him to be a created being, distinct from God the Father. According to Arius, Jesus was the first creation of God and not God Himself. He believed that there was a time when the Son (Jesus) did not exist and that Jesus was a high-ranking created being but not equal to God.

Arians do not view Jesus as a prophet at all; instead, they see him as[b] a unique created being who holds a significant position in their theological framework.[/b] While some may argue that Arians elevate Jesus above other prophets due to his role in creation and his status as the highest created being, it is essential to understand that Arianism fundamentally rejects the traditional Christian understanding of Jesus as fully divine.

Therefore, within the framework of Arianism, Jesus is not regarded as a prophet or even compared to other prophets but rather seen as a distinct entity with a unique status as a created being.

Another important aspect of Arians' belief in Jesus' role in creation is the idea of Jesus as the Logos or Word of God. Jesus is seen as the instrument through which God brought the universe into being. They see Jesus as the Word of God and the agent through which all things were created. Remember though this word is created.

Ohyoudidnt:
Indeed you lie that you have not asked me questions about Islam. How many posts have you made and falsely included me in a long list of friends you expect answers from?

Ohyoudidnt:
When and where was the Divinity of Jesus established?

The false claim to divinity of Jesus indeed contradicts the principles of monotheism. In monotheistic religions such as Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, the belief in one supreme deity is central. Monotheism asserts that there is only one true God who is to be worshipped and honored above all else. The concept of monotheism emphasizes the oneness and uniqueness of this divine being, rejecting the idea of multiple gods or deities.

The claim that Jesus is divine or part of a trinity challenges the core tenets of monotheism by introducing a multiplicity within the divine essence. This is a divergence from strict monotheism .

Ohyoudidnt:
Arianism posits that God is one being and one person, not three distinct persons as in the traditional Christian understanding of the Trinity.

FreeStuffsNG:
Adegboye said she sees the deportation order from federal immigration officials as a death sentence for her family, which now includes two more children who were born in Canada.

She issued a plea for Canada to reverse the deportation so she can continue to build a life for her children and care for her patients.

Obviously, she's lying! The family is lying by raising religious persecution. They are Yoruba and in Yorubaland there's no religious persecution. The 3 religion of Christianity, Islam and Yoruba traditional Isese religion exist side by side even in every family and community. She should have been honest enough to state the main reason instead of denigrating her place.

This is what you get when you build your lives on lies. Truth will eventually catch up with you.

FreeStuffsNG:
If you check her background now, she's probably one of those educated with tax payers money and on graduation deserted the nation for a foreign country that made zero investment in their public education before leaving Nigeria.

FreeStuffsNG:
We have patients in Nigeria too and we need more health workers too. Please come back home with dignity, your children are watching and learning from you if you build their lives on lies. They will grow up not seeing anything wrong with lying and denigrating their origin.

God bless Nigeria for ever! Check my signature for free stuffs!

gaskiyamagana:
Another story to collect salary for vain job poorly done but sadly to the satisfaction of pay master.
As I always say and maintain till second coming of your Lord Jesus, you are anti Islam roboticalized that arguing with you on Islam is monumental futile exercise which I will not do.
When you are deactivate, reprogram to accept and process Islamic teachings and reboot with Kalimat-sh-Shahadah, then you will be worth of arguing with from my end. I asked one of your friends of same mentality that what is difference between your human blood sucking God and spiritualists who are human blood users?

Ohyoudidnt:
Arianism, a Christological position in Christianity, was proposed by the Alexandrian presbyter Arius in the early 4th century. It emphasized that Jesus, as the Son of God, was created by God and gained popularity across the Eastern and Western Roman empires. However, it was declared a heresy by the Council of Nicaea in 325.

Beliefs of Arianism

Arianism is often viewed as a form of Unitarian theology that prioritizes God’s unity over the concept of the Trinity. Arius believed in the uniqueness of God as self-existent and immutable, contrasting this with the Son who was considered a created being without self-existence. This belief led to controversies regarding the nature and divinity of Jesus Christ.

The Council of Nicaea condemned Arius as a heretic and affirmed through a creed that the Son is “of one substance with the Father,” establishing orthodox Christian belief. Despite this, conflicts persisted for years, with various councils and emperors supporting different factions within Christianity.

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