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Ohyoudidnt:
By the time Judas was found, he must have bloated up after more than four days hung up on the tree because the next two days were sabbath (no Jew go out for any duty). Even Jesus was not anointed until the third day after crucifixion.

This is your assertion to prove your point or what validates this statement?

While it is unlikely for a person to die from bursting their stomach during a fall, it is not entirely impossible. A fall from a significant height can exert a great amount of force on the body upon impact. This force can potentially cause serious internal injuries, including rupturing the stomach.

If the impact is severe enough, there is a small chance that the stomach could rupture, leading to a potentially life-threatening situation.

IslamVIRGINS:
I love discussing anything virgins pertaining to islam. Is the hadith in picture below maudu or daifs?

Sixfiguresmart:
[/b] "Each time we sleep with a Houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. [b]The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [i.e. Muslim] will marry seventy [sic] houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetizing vaginas." - Al-Suyuti, Al-Itqan fi Ulum al-Qur'an, p. 351

Muslims will faint after each sex. Wake up again to sex and faint again. This is what will happen in Jannah? Sex and fainting with eternal erection?

Guys how will you feel to have constant erection for a week only? Let alone forever.

Abu Umama narrated: "The Messenger of God said, 'Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris and seventy of his inheritance of the [female] dwellers of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.' " - Sunan Ibn Majah, Zuhd (Book of Abstinence) 39

Ohyoudidnt:
These Maudu and Daifs are created for your use TENQ enforcer of falsities?

Ohyoudidnt:
If 10 men are lined up for execution but 2 are taken away from this line up haven't these 2 been saved or rescued?

Ohyoudidnt:
This is your biblical or Christian theology and a further explanation of the concept of Son of God ism.

Mishkat al-Masabih 3525 is referring to position of honour and if I may add blows or hits on the face can affect the brain through which man derives intellect and intelligence to appropriately serve as a vicergent of Allah.

It should be protected from harm asside its controlling the individual internal and external activities

Ohyoudidnt:
According to this, Isa (Jesus) a.s. was not crucified nor killed but was raised up to Allah. It appeared to those who
wanted to crucify him that they had succeeded, but Allah saved him. Islamic tradition holds that Isa a.s. will
return before the Day of Judgment to restore justice and defeat the false messiah (Dajjal). The exact details of
how the crucifixion was made to appear to them are not given in Islamic sources, and Allah knows best the full story.

Do you know the exact details of how Adam was moulded from clay, the Sun, stars and galaxy were created; how exactly God created rest through sleep for man and the exact time you sleep and wake up? Are you arrogantly trying to know these precise details to became a god? Your not knowing these exactly doesn't stop them from being and occuring.

Ohyoudidnt:
Does this then mean the text is just for the people of that time otherwise why should modern readers be so burdened to look for the meaning?

Is it that the acts of the passover have been abolished and why? If it's a thing of Jewish culture is this categorically stating a Jewish right which impacted the religion is abandoned that it's details are unclear?

Ohyoudidnt:
1. We're the followers of Jesus say in the first 40 to 50 years following his departure burdened with this? I doubt so.

Ohyoudidnt:
Were they misled or this is part of the test of faith?

1 Peter 1:7 - “These trials will show that your faith is genuine. It is being tested as fire tests and purifies gold—though your faith is far more precious than mere gold. So when your faith remains strong through many trials, it will bring you much praise and glory and honor on the day when Jesus Christ is revealed to the whole world..”

The verse suggests that trials and challenges are not without purpose for believers. They are meant to refine and strengthen one’s faith, demonstrating its authenticity and value.

Matt. 3:12 He is ready to separate the chaff from the wheat with his winnowing fork. Then he will clean up the threshing area, gathering the wheat into his barn but burning the chaff with never-ending fire.”

In this verse John the Baptist is assumed to be addressing the Pharisees and Sadducees. The wheat represents those who are truly repentant, the chaff those like the Pharisees and Sadducees who are not.

Let me help you out( with Christian theology and understanding of God).
If God tells me as a Christian to jump down from a Airplane, I should jump!
Why?
Righteousness is following exactly the command of God even if it results in death!

It is in fact faithlessness if God commands me to jump down from a plane and I refuse to do so.

ahmedio2017:
perhaps you don't even understand English

"And there is none among you who is not to arrive at it." - 19:71. This means that everybody - be he a BELIEVER or an INFIDEL - will go ACROSS Hell. However, this does not mean that they would go to stay in it; they would only go ACROSS it.


What is the Quran verse 19 70 to 72?
(19:70) and then We shall know well all those most worthy to be cast in Hell. (19:71) There is not one of you but shall pass by Hell. This is a decree which your Lord will fulfil. (19:72) Then We shall deliver those that feared Allah and leave the wrong-doers there on their knees.


I cannot continue to waste my energy and time with a dullard like you honestly.....


HONESTLY if you don't repent hell fire is your ABODE

ahmedio2017:
Pele, just go and preach to your people, you are the most stubborn sect on earth, though I'm not surprised because Allah said he's the only one that can show someone the light, no matter our efforts you will still remain the same so no need of wasting my energy and time with you. Because even if we continue till Jesus Christ PBUH comes you still remain adamant but you shall know the truth on the day of judgement......


Allah is only one and prophet Muhammad s.a.w is a messenger of Allah

You shall not die unless you are a MUSLIM

That is my last message and advice for you if you will listen so that you can become successful in the hereafter........

If you don't listen, there is no compulsion in religion. Stick to your Christianity and LEAVE Islam ALONE..... Your religion shall be urs and let my religion be mine.....

Ohyoudidnt:
Seems I omitted to address.

The fate of Judas Iscariot, one of the twelve disciples of Jesus, is a topic that has been debated for centuries. According to the Bible, Judas betrayed Jesus for thirty pieces of silver and later regretted his actions, returning the money before hanging himself. However, there are also conflicting accounts that suggest Judas died in a different manner.

One theory is that Judas did not actually hang himself but instead died from a fall or other means. Another belief is that he was killed by God as punishment for his betrayal. Some even claim that Judas faked his own death and lived out the rest of his days in exile.

Whether he died by suicide, accident, divine intervention, or lived on in hiding, the story of Judas continues to intrigue and mystify scholars and believers alike.

Ohyoudidnt:
I wonder where you get this sexual relations from.

The companionship between the righteous believers and the houris in paradise is not described as being sexual.

The concept of houris in Islamic belief is often associated with the reward for faithful Muslim men in paradise. While there are descriptions of houris in Islamic texts that mention their beauty and characteristics, the relationship between believers and houris is typically understood to be one of companionship, purity, and reward rather than physical or sexual in nature.

ahmedio2017:
Pele, only God knows the rest of his prophets
But 25 prophets name was mentioned in the Quran so what is your stress with that ?

And again It wasn't all of them that were given books.

Ohyoudidnt:
You pick a verse in Surah Maryam without recourse to the surrounding verses?
Clearquran.com Surah 19
67. Does the human being not remember that We created him before, when he was nothing?

68. By your Lord, We will round them up, and the devils, then We will bring them around Hell, on their knees.

69. Then, out of every sect, We will snatch those most defiant to the Most Merciful.

70. We are fully aware of those most deserving to scorch in it.

71. There is not one of you but will go down to it. This has been an unavoidable decree of your Lord.

72. Then We will rescue those who were devout, and leave the wrongdoers in it, on their knees.

Without going to Tafsir is the above not easy to understand?

68 says all including the devil will be brought around the fire,
69 says the most deviant in every sect will be snatched being aware of what everyone does emphasized in 70.

Are these not the ones that will go down into it. The deviants will go down into it.

72. The righteous will be saved from this faith.

Ohyoudidnt:
Hmm, let's get into some of your theology.

The terms “image” and “likeness” in the context of being made in the image of God are actually representative of sonship. By the Biblical saying of being created in the image and likeness of God signifies a filial relationship with God, where humans are considered His offspring.

This buttresses the perspective that aligns with the idea that humanity’s role as God’s image-bearers is closely tied to being His children, reflecting a family resemblance and standing in a special relationship with Him.

The narrative in Genesis 1 emphasizes that humans, created in God’s image and likeness, are tasked with dominion over the earth and its creatures. This connection between the image of God and rulership underscores the significance of humans as representatives of God’s authority on earth.

The usage of the language of “image” and “likeness” extends to family relationships within the biblical text. Genesis 5 draws a parallel between Adam being created in the likeness of God and his son Seth being born in his own likeness, indicating a generational transmission of this divine image.

In the New Testament Acts 17 and Luke 3, suggest that bearing the image of God implies a filial connection with Him, emphasizing a familial bond between humanity and their Creator.

Luke’s genealogical reference to Adam speaks of him as the divinely created progenitor of the line leading to Jesus (Luke 3:38). Luke is explaining what it means that Jesus has been declared to be God’s well-pleasing Son (Luke 3:22).

ahmedio2017:
You are the one that should be afraid honestly do you know why?

You do not believe in ALLAH
You do not believe in prophet Muhammad s.a.w
You do not believe in Jesus Christ PBUH that says it is ONLY GOD that you should serve rather you believed in God's creatures as your lord I pity you repent before it is too late

Ohyoudidnt:
Can we thus say this response isn't the same as the one you lost? Is it certain this abridged version doesn't miss prominent points you intended and this is different?



Does the Bible exactly say the passover is not a single day? I have not seen this perhaps you can show me as you take offense in my saying you are rewriting the Bible and reinventing Christianity.

The discrepancies in how Jesus is said to have been crucified make a big case for doubt. When there are inconsistencies in narrations of how an event is said to occur it takes a good chunk of credibility away or isn't this so?

You are familiar with the word anachronism ?

Anachronisms can indeed be considered as illusions in the context of historical reenactments or artistic representations. They serve to create a specific atmosphere or narrative that may not be entirely historically accurate but aims to entertain or engage the audience.

The phrase “so it was made to appear to them” refers to the belief held by some that Jesus was crucified. This verse is often interpreted to mean it wasn't Jesus crucified and he was substituted. Was he substituted by another person or was this like a mirage or was this like the case of Moses seeing a burning bush yet no real fire or burning was taking place?

Why does the phrase it only appeared to happen occur in that translation of the meaning? Does this not emphasize that it didn't happen? The famous magician trick of slicing a human into two is an appearance that isn't true or does the magician actually slice the person in two? No. It is an illusion that is perceived to be real as the audience but it isn't.

The event was a deception or illusion created by Allah to protect Jesus from such a fate. You are familiar with the 16th century philosopher Machiavelli who feigned his death in order to defeat his enemies?

'and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow'

Is this not evident in the varied narrations surrounding the crucifixion in the Bible?

Ohyoudidnt:
Oh! I only emphasize the discrepancies in these reports which you probably must have pondered over too. Unlike you I don't create a god in my image and determine what he says or does.


When two reports are not essentially the same the onus is mine to further investigate and derived the truth.


Do you exactly remember everything you've learnt in life since when you were a child though this is less than a 100 years? Naturally you will forget some details of some things.

In the case of human communities over longer periods of time some things get forgotten or inadequately related. Then don't forget the enemy the Devil ever scheming and trying to change the truth.

The different books were sent through prophets at different times but all emphasized the oneness of an almighty God and advised on righteous behaviour.

They also attended to peculiarities in human relationship at those times.

ahmedio2017:
I have told you stop misquoting Quran

(19:70) and then We shall know well all those most worthy to be cast in Hell. (19:71) There is NOT ONE of you but shall pass by Hell. This is a decree which your Lord will fulfil. (19:72) Then We shall DELIVER THOSE THAT FEARED ALLAH and LEAVE THE WRONG-DOERS there on their knees.

ahmedio2017:
Your body, spirit, and soul belongs to you and God who created you. Whether you like it or not you will be questioned when u die whether you are buried or not....

Allah is not like your god who used to make mistakes

ahmedio2017:
You are talking about your body being eaten by fish or lion. It is your spirit and soul that will be questioned....

ahmedio2017:
The prophets of Islam include: Adam, Idris (Enoch), Nuh (Noah), Hud (Heber), Saleh (Methusaleh), Lut (Lot), Ibrahim (Abraham), Ismail (Ishmael), Ishaq (Isaac), Yaqub (Jacob), Yusuf (Joseph), Shu'aib (Jethro), Ayyub (Job), Dhulkifl (Ezekiel), Musa (Moses), Harun (Aaron), Dawud (David), Sulayman (Solomon), Ilyas (Elias), ...


How many prophets mentioned in Quran by name?
25 prophets
Allah (SWT) selected 25 prophets to spread His messages.

Allah said, “O, Adam! This is a salutation for you and your children until the Resurrection Day.” Then Allah brought out his offspring from the backbone and took the covenant of His oneness. Prophet Adam saw a group from his progeny, bright and brilliant and he asked who they were. Allah said, “They are the apostles from your offspring.” Adam asked their number and Allah responded, “They are One hundred and twenty four thousand. Among them are three hundred and fifteen Prophets.” Adam asked, “Who is the last of them and who looks more luminous than others?”
Hayat Al-Qulub, Vol. 1. Stories of the prophet.
Muhammad Baqir Majlisi

Narrated by Ibn Hibban in his Tafseer, 963
Abu Umamah said: I said: O Prophet of Allah, how many prophets were there? He said: “One hundred and twenty four thousand, of whom three hundred and fifteen were a good number.”

ahmedio2017:
Non believers will be made to stay in hell fire forever.....

Ohyoudidnt:
1. Was Jesus really crucified?

The Gospel of John portrays Jesus’ crucifixion occurring on the day of preparation for Passover, while the Synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke) suggest it happened after Passover. Which really was it?

Ohyoudidnt:
The Synoptic Gospels mention Simon of Cyrene helping Jesus carry his cross, while John’s Gospel does not include this detail.

The Gospel of John presents a different sequence of events during the crucifixion compared to the Synoptic Gospels.


In John, Jesus’ trial before Pontius Pilate occurs before the trial before Annas, whereas in the Synoptics, it happens after.

In John’s Gospel, Nicodemus assists Joseph of Arimathea in preparing Jesus’ body for burial, whereas in the Synoptics, Joseph of Arimathea alone takes initiative to bury Jesus.

In John, the inscription on the cross reads “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews” in Hebrew, Latin, and Greek. In the Synoptic Gospels, it simply states “This is Jesus, the King of the Jews” in Latin and Greek.

In John, Jesus is said to have spoken to the women present at the crucifixion, specifically his mother Mary and the disciple’s mother, while in the Synoptics, there is no mention of this interaction.

In John’s Gospel, Jesus willingly gives up his spirit and declares “It is finished,” whereas in the Synoptics, he cries out in a loud voice, “Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”) before he dies.

In John, it is the Roman soldier who pierces Jesus’ side with a spear, while in the Synoptics, it is a soldier from the Jewish authorities.

The Gospels offer varying accounts regarding who discovered the empty tomb first and what they saw there.

The timing and circumstances surrounding Jesus’ appearances after his resurrection differ among the Gospel narratives.

The Gospels were written decades after the events they describe, raising questions about their accuracy and reliability as historical sources.

Ohyoudidnt:
The lack of contemporary non-Christian sources documenting Jesus’ crucifixion and resurrection has led some to question the veracity of these events.

Ohyoudidnt:
The Gospel of Matthew describes Judas Iscariot’s remorse after betraying Jesus and returning the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests before hanging himself.

In contrast, the Book of Acts narrates Judas falling headlong and bursting open in a field. So what truly happened to Judas Iscariot? Or did he buy land with the proceeds of his betrayal?

Ohyoudidnt:
Could theological motivations have influenced how the Gospel writers shaped their narratives, potentially leading to embellishments or alterations for doctrinal purposes?

Differences in emphasis or theological themes across the Gospels have raised questions about whether they present a completely objective historical record.

According to the Gospel of Mark, Jesus was crucified at the third hour (Mark 15:25), which is usually interpreted as 9 AM. It is mentioned that he died before sunset, as the Sabbath was approaching (Mark 15:42, Luke 23:54). This would suggest a timespan of approximately six to nine hours from the time of crucifixion to death.


Mark 15:44 mentioned that Pilate marveled at the news of Jesus’ swift death and summoned the centurion to confirm if Jesus was indeed dead before granting permission for his body to be given to Joseph of Arimathea for burial. This account suggests that Pilate had doubts about the rapidity of Jesus’ death and wanted to ensure that he was truly deceased before allowing his body to be taken down from the cross.

Ohyoudidnt:
2. In the Book of Genesis, Adam is described as a son of God (Genesis 5:1-2). In the Book of Exodus, Moses is instructed by God to tell Pharaoh that Israel is His firstborn son (Exodus 4:22-23). These instances suggest that the concept of being a child of God existed before the time of Jesus.

Now in absolute terms does your designing and building a house or car make it your child?

Ohyoudidnt:
3. What do you mean by Islam creating another means of salvation? Please be specific or detailed so I understand you.

Ohyoudidnt:
4. It seems you have a misconception and gross misunderstanding of the verse you may refer to but it's wrong I pre-empt you so please explain this.

Ohyoudidnt:
5. By God's solution do you refer to this being through Jesus? How come a same God of yesterday, today and forever change the course at some point in the journey. The rules and laws of God are said not to change.

Ohyoudidnt:
The following questions tend towards some repetition of the former except

3. Matthew 22:30, “At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. The question is why should mankind change to angels? These are separate entities or aren't they?

Revelation 21:1-4 describes that there will be a new heaven and a new earth where God will live with his people. “He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” This suggests that there will be a sense of community and companionship in Heaven.

The marriages in Islam you refer to are in what sense? Are these relations same as earthly ones. That you will continue enjoying companionship of your earthly wives in paradise doesn't mean it will be like that on earth.

The relationship between righteous men and houris in Jannah is one of companionship, beauty, and pleasure.The nature of this relationship between righteous men and houris in Jannah will be that the relationship is purely spiritual and symbolic, representing the ultimate fulfillment and joy that believers will experience in Paradise.

ahmedio2017:
It is your spirit and soul that will be questioned because once you die you become a spirit.

ahmedio2017:
Maybe you should list out the 124,000 prophets....

ahmedio2017:
Quote the ayat and read it well, Christian who do good and BELIEVE.

NOW the question is do you belief in Allah and prophet Muhammad s.a.w?

Ohyoudidnt:
Mr. Do 1. A messanger of Allah ,2. The Word of Allah and 3. A spirit from Allah refer to different entities? Are the father, son and holy spirit not different amd existing at different locations?

When Jesus was on earth wasn't the Father said to be in heaven and didn't Jesus have the support of the holy spirit as well as send him by your Christian view to the apostles after he departed? Isn't this clear distinction of them being different?

Ogbeni a dispute at a time please? What's your aim in mixing up the subject of discourse. Are you seeking confusion or misdirection of the discourse

Ohyoudidnt:
Wonderful assertions. Is it not contradictory? You say your God is of 3 equal God's in Father, son and holy spirit that are not equal to one another yet are all God? Is this not confusing? When of the three equal one is most supreme or isn't this? Jesus did say the father God is greater than him and knows what he doesn't know. This same father sends the holy spirit and son Jesus but the latter 2 don't send the father or do they?

Ohyoudidnt:
Is it like water a molecule of 2 hydrogen atoms that can be separated into it's constituents or Ozone that may be different Isotopes of Oxygen?

Dream25:
Yes you got me right.

USA and it NATO allies set the precedence for Russia in Ukraine. You have no right to criticize Russia in Ukraine if you see nothing wrong with what NATO did in Serbia..

ahmedio2017:
MUMU, Jesus believed in oneness of God
Jesus submitted to the will of God those are the qualities of ISLAM.

Christianity is a polytheistic religion
There is no similarities between Jesus Christ PBUH religion and that of Christianity use your head oga.

ahmedio2017:
Lolz Tenq u guys should come n rescue this one o, because it seems you are loosing it.


Which are the books of Moses?
"The five books of Moses are referred to as the Pentateuch, and encompasses the first five books of the Old Testament: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. These books give the foundation for Jewish law and religion, and outlined the covenants given to Jewish people by their God.


Still no where they wrote the word Bible oga