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AntiChristian:
What is known is like humans, Jinns exist who obey their Lord and others disobey Him!

And the interpretation of entering hell as you put it is "Passing over" the bridge of Siraat which is laid across hell!

People will vary in the ways in which they pass over the siraat. Some will pass in the blink of an eye, some will pass like lightning, some will pass like the wind, some will pass like swift horses, some will pass like fast camels, some will walk, some will crawl, and some will be thrown into Hell. No one will pass over this siraat except the believers only. As for the disbelievers, they will not pass over it, because on the Day of Resurrection they will be driven directly to Hell.

1. That means that I've said nothing about Jinn that you Muslims don’t teach as doctrine.

2. Allah didn't say you will pass over hell. But inside it. Then Allah will remove the Muslims and leave the Idolaters on their knees. This is what the Qur'an says.

Am I wrong?

AntiChristian:
Ummi means unlettered!
So what remains?

Let me ask you a question :


What then is a LIE or UNTRUE about the things I wrote in this post of mine.




Again:

TenQ:
Most Muslims have been fed with a lie that Mohammed was an uneducated man and so could not read and write.
This is one of the reasons for claiming that the Quran is a miracle because the work is beyond the intellectual capacity of an Illiterate prophet.

Today, I will show us all that the claim of illiteracy of Mohammed is a big Lie created to draw sympathy and make youndrop your guard in accepting Mohammed as a prophet.

Claims Muslims use to insinuate the illiteracy of Mohammed
Qur'an 7:157
Those who follow the messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper."

Qur'an 29:48
(And thou (O Muhammad) wast not a reader of any scripture before it, nor didst thou write it with thy right hand, for then might those have doubted, who follow falsehood.)


Evidence:
1. Historical Possibility
Mohammed was more or less the hired manager of Khadija's business AND he was found trustworthy with her trades and money. This task is suitable for one who can keep record of transactions and relay them out whenever needed.
2. What some Islamic Scholars says about Mohammed's illiteracy
The Prophet Muhammad (SAWA) was never illiterate but was from Umm Al-Qura which is one of the names of Makkah, that is why he was called as Ummi.
https://www.al-islam.org/ask/was-it-the-case-that-our-prophet-muhammad-pbuh-was-illiterate-what-is-the-difference-between-illiterate-and-unlettered

Definition of “Ummi”
However, according to Edward Lanes Lexicon, the classical Arabic term ‘Ummi’ refers to a gentile or someone who is not familiar with the Law of Prophet Moses. It is not necessarily someone who is illiterate.

https://medium.com/uncorrupted-islam/prophet-muhammad-196e312f82e5

3. The word Ummiy just simply means NOT a scholar in the scripture (of the Jews and Christians)
The word ummiy (أمي) appears 6 times in the Quran. Two times in the singular in relation to Muhammad himself (verses 7:157-158) and four times in the plural form (verses 2:78, 3:20, 3:75 and 62:2). From these verses quoted below we will see that the word doesn't have to necessarily mean "illiterate", but can also mean "ignorant" or "not given a scripture"

Qur'an 2:78 defines who the unlettered ones are
Quran 2:78
And among them are unlettered ones (أُمِّيُّونَ, ummeeoona) who do not know the Scripture except in wishful thinking, but they are only assuming.

Allah refer to the Arabs as Unlettered or Uneducated here even though the Arabs at this time had writings and thus could read and write. Don't forget that Waraqa, the uncle of Khadija (Mohammed's wife) used to write and translate the gospel into Arabic. Of course the Arabs were no Illiterates by the standard of reading and writing. They were Illiterates with respect to the Scripture (the Book).

[/b]
Evidence from the hadiths showed that even though Mohammed had secretaries who helped him in writing, he himself could read and write.

[b]Sahih Muslim 1637 c
Ibn Abbas reported:
When Allah's Messenger was about to leave this world, there were persons (around him) in his house, 'Umar b. al-Kbattab being one of them. Allah's Apostle said: Come, I may write for you a document; you would not go astray after that. Thereupon Umar said: Verily Allah's Messenger is deeply afflicted with pain. You have the Qur'an with you. The Book of Allah is sufficient for us. Those who were present in the house differed. Some of them said: Bring him (the writing material) so that Allah's Messenger may write a document for you and you would never go astray after him And some among them said what 'Umar had (already) said. When they indulged in nonsense and began to dispute in the presence of Allah's Messenger, he said: Get up (and go away) 'Ubaidullah said: Ibn Abbas used to say: There was a heavy loss, indeed a heavy loss, that, due to their dispute and noise. Allah's Messenger could not write (or dictate) the document for them.


Questions :
Part A: If you think Mohammed was Literate
1. Knowing that Mohammed could read and write, why do you think that the preferred Islamic Narrative is that he was Illiterate?

Part B: If you think Mohammed was Illiterate
2. Haven read the hadiths presented, why would you still say that Mohammed was Illiterate?
3. Why did Jibril command Mohammed to read if he cannot read? And how come he still couldn't read after this command




Please let's make the answers short, direct and precise
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TenQ:
Another Lie of Islam: Mohammed sold to Muslims as an Illiterate


The average Muslim believe erroneously that Mohammed was Illiterate because this is the preferred standard Islamic Narrative of Muslims. Unfortunately, this is a big lie(Taqqiya).

One of the characteristics of liars is the fact that they cannot maintain with consistency the preferred Narrative they have conjectured. This is like Mohammedu Buhari was sold to Nigerians as Poor and Righteous but just a few years down the line we hear an allegation that almost a billion Naira was stolen from his Wife Aisha.

Evidences from the Hadiths
1. Hadith by Ahmad very long

Musnad Ahmad 656
It was narrated that `Ubaidullah bin ‘Iyad bin `Amr al-Qari said:
`Abdullah bin Shaddad came and entered upon `A`ishah (رضي الله عنها) when we were sitting with her, as he was returning from Iraq during the time when ‘Ali (رضي الله عنه) was murdered....... .
But Suhail bin `Amr came to us when we were with the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) at al-Hudaibiyah, when he made a peace deal with Quraish, and the Messenger of Allah wrote, `In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.`
Suhail said: Do not write, In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. He said: What should we write? He said: Write: `In Your Name, O Allah.” The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Write `Muhammad the Messenger of Allah.`......



2. Mohammed could Read: Evidence from Abi Dawud

Sunan Abi Dawud 1629
Narrated Sahl ibn Hanzaliyyah:
Uyaynah ibn Hisn and Aqra' ibn Habis came to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ).....
As for Uyaynah, he took his document and came to the Prophet at his home, and said to him: Muhammad, do you see me? I am taking a document to my people, but I do not know what it contains, just like the document of al-Mutalammis. Mu'awiyah informed the Messenger of Allah of his statement.

Thereupon the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: He who begs (from people) when he has sufficient is simply asking for a large amount of Hell-fire. (An-Nufayl (a transmitter) said elsewhere: "embers of Hell".)
...


3. Evidence from the Qur'an
Quran 3:20
So if they argue with you, say, "I have submitted myself to Allah [in Islam], and [so have] those who follow me." And say to those who were given the Scripture and [to] the unlearned (وَالْأُمِّيِّينَ, wa-al-ummeena), "Have you submitted yourselves?" And if they submit [in Islam], they are rightly guided; but if they turn away - then upon you is only the [duty of] notification. And Allah is Seeing of [His] servants.

Those who were not given the scripture are the unlearned ones. Just as in Nigeria, we call Lawyers Learned fellows and it doesn't mean that the rest of us are illiterates.

Please point out my Errors?
Is the problem that this is coming from a Christian?

FxMasterz:
Taquiyya! TenQ, don't fall for this deception. If Antichristian does not kill for Allah, he'll not be a true Muslim!

All True Muslims are expected to fight Jihad and to obey the prophet.
When the demon of Islam possess them, there is no one they cannot slaughter.

MightySparrow:
Mohammed was a fraudster. When it comes to religion, common sense is no longer common. The guy copied whatever he liked from Jewish scriptures and some incorrectly, some embellished.
I have been trying to read the Quran. It is so disjointed that one cannot really follow it logically.

One thing I still think about is about the selection of prophets and writers of biblical books.
Of the New Testament books only Luke ( Luka) is mentioned.

My friend Islam is a joke.

Luke was not even mentioned in the Qur'an. The problem is when Allah (the acclaimed author of the Qur'an) doesn't know basic truths
Zachariah (of John the Baptist) is a Prophet
Alexander the Great is a prophet
Adam is a Prophet

Mohammed is the Most successful 419 in the history of Mankind

AntiChristian:
He is simply unlettered which i have defined for you!

Rewrite as you like!

So why are you afraid of saying that Mohammed is literate?

Why do your scholars deliberately promote the idea that Mohammed is Illiterate?

How come almost all Muslims except you scholars think Mohammed is Illiterate?

FxMasterz:
Word! The perfect description of antichristian, truthday and the likes. TenQ, if this people see you on the streets on a normal day, the only thought that would be on their hearts is how they'll behead you while chanting allah akbomb. They never see the good you're doing to them by giving them the keys of freedom.

I know that perfectly.
You will just hear that a headless man was found beside the river. Alhamdulillah, the enemy of Islam is decapitated to the delight of Allah and his prophet.

How murder can be an act of ibadah is amazing : only satan can produce this result

AntiChristian:
Once the knowledge goes against your Bible and Muslims are involved then it must be taqqiya!

We pray your lot won't burn in hell too!

What have I said about the Jinns different from what you Muslims claim?

Don't Muslim and Christian Jinn exist?
Don't good and bad Jinn exist?

As per Hell Fire,
ALLAH guarantee ALL Muslims entering Hell Fire (only that he will later replace you with Jews and Christians).

Suppose this is Taqqiya!?

AntiChristian:
He was unlettered!
You need to show us what he wrote!

First Excuse:
I cannot answer your questions because You are not the owner of this thread

I showed evidence:

The question is still avoided?


AntiChristian,
What are you hiding?

For your information, Jesus is literate : is Mohammed literate?

Why are you afraid of calling a spade a spade?

Mr Ohyoudidnt
Was Mohammed literate or Illiterate ?

FxMasterz:
As long as they don't know or care to know, how would they benefit?

As long as a prisoner doesn't know that he is in a prison and waiting for the day of his execution, even when you give him the key of freedom from his cell, he would hate you for it.

FxMasterz:
Lol. These people are missing, and they don't know. They even count themselves to be very knowledgeable. The other day, the ignorant antichristian was telling me that some demons are Muslims and that Satan himself is a demon - a jinn. I can't help but shake my head. How can someone be proud of such levels of ignorance? See the types of babyish questions they're asking? Very unintelligent things.

To the Muslims, a demon is only the bad unrepentant Jinn. The repentant Jinns are Muslims. They even think that there are Christian Jinn.
A whole chapter of the Qur'an is on the Jinn.

Satan make them comfortable in learned ignorance stewed Taqqiya and lies that will only lead them to hell.

AntiChristian:
He is unlettered!

You said:

AntiChristian:
being literate means the ability to read and write while illiteracy means the opposite .

I don't thing it's appropriate/sane to use the latter for our Prophet!

The proper word is Unlettered which roughly implies ignorance of the knowledge gained by reading!

According to you:
It is not appropriate nor sane to call your prophet illiterate

So, are you saying that your prophet is literate but unlettered ?

FxMasterz:
Lol.

Silly questions.

They don't see the questions as silly o!
This is the height of religion to them.
Is it Haram to kill mosquitos that try to bite them during prayers at the mosque.

FxMasterz:
They don't even understand who the Messaiah is and His purpose. The Messaiah was not promised to the Arabs. Yet, the Arabs make themselves the best authority on the Messaiah. Pathetic.

They don't know and they don't care to know. It is sufficient for them to mindlessly slam heads on the floor to the God of the Arab and his black stone

AntiChristian:
This isn't your thread for questions!

It is my thread sir!

TenQ:
Most Muslims have been fed with a lie that Mohammed was an uneducated man and so could not read and write.
This is one of the reasons for claiming that the Quran is a miracle because the work is beyond the intellectual capacity of an Illiterate prophet.

Today, I will show us all that the claim of illiteracy of Mohammed is a big Lie created to draw sympathy and make youndrop your guard in accepting Mohammed as a prophet.

Claims Muslims use to insinuate the illiteracy of Mohammed
Qur'an 7:157
Those who follow the messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper."

Qur'an 29:48
(And thou (O Muhammad) wast not a reader of any scripture before it, nor didst thou write it with thy right hand, for then might those have doubted, who follow falsehood.)


Evidence:
1. Historical Possibility
Mohammed was more or less the hired manager of Khadija's business AND he was found trustworthy with her trades and money. This task is suitable for one who can keep record of transactions and relay them out whenever needed.
2. What some Islamic Scholars says about Mohammed's illiteracy
The Prophet Muhammad (SAWA) was never illiterate but was from Umm Al-Qura which is one of the names of Makkah, that is why he was called as Ummi.
https://www.al-islam.org/ask/was-it-the-case-that-our-prophet-muhammad-pbuh-was-illiterate-what-is-the-difference-between-illiterate-and-unlettered

Definition of “Ummi”
However, according to Edward Lanes Lexicon, the classical Arabic term ‘Ummi’ refers to a gentile or someone who is not familiar with the Law of Prophet Moses. It is not necessarily someone who is illiterate.

https://medium.com/uncorrupted-islam/prophet-muhammad-196e312f82e5

3. The word Ummiy just simply means NOT a scholar in the scripture (of the Jews and Christians)
The word ummiy (أمي) appears 6 times in the Quran. Two times in the singular in relation to Muhammad himself (verses 7:157-158) and four times in the plural form (verses 2:78, 3:20, 3:75 and 62:2). From these verses quoted below we will see that the word doesn't have to necessarily mean "illiterate", but can also mean "ignorant" or "not given a scripture"

Qur'an 2:78 defines who the unlettered ones are
Quran 2:78
And among them are unlettered ones (أُمِّيُّونَ, ummeeoona) who do not know the Scripture except in wishful thinking, but they are only assuming.

Allah refer to the Arabs as Unlettered or Uneducated here even though the Arabs at this time had writings and thus could read and write. Don't forget that Waraqa, the uncle of Khadija (Mohammed's wife) used to write and translate the gospel into Arabic. Of course the Arabs were no Illiterates by the standard of reading and writing. They were Illiterates with respect to the Scripture (the Book).

[/b]
Evidence from the hadiths showed that even though Mohammed had secretaries who helped him in writing, he himself could read and write.

[b]Sahih Muslim 1637 c
Ibn Abbas reported:
When Allah's Messenger was about to leave this world, there were persons (around him) in his house, 'Umar b. al-Kbattab being one of them. Allah's Apostle said: Come, I may write for you a document; you would not go astray after that. Thereupon Umar said: Verily Allah's Messenger is deeply afflicted with pain. You have the Qur'an with you. The Book of Allah is sufficient for us. Those who were present in the house differed. Some of them said: Bring him (the writing material) so that Allah's Messenger may write a document for you and you would never go astray after him And some among them said what 'Umar had (already) said. When they indulged in nonsense and began to dispute in the presence of Allah's Messenger, he said: Get up (and go away) 'Ubaidullah said: Ibn Abbas used to say: There was a heavy loss, indeed a heavy loss, that, due to their dispute and noise. Allah's Messenger could not write (or dictate) the document for them.


Questions :
Part A: If you think Mohammed was Literate
1. Knowing that Mohammed could read and write, why do you think that the preferred Islamic Narrative is that he was Illiterate?

Part B: If you think Mohammed was Illiterate
2. Haven read the hadiths presented, why would you still say that Mohammed was Illiterate?
3. Why did Jibril command Mohammed to read if he cannot read? And how come he still couldn't read after this command




Please let's make the answers short, direct and precise
Cc:
All my Friends on Nairaland:
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Questions :
Part A: If you think Mohammed was Literate
1. Knowing that Mohammed could read and write, why do you think that the preferred Islamic Narrative is that he was Illiterate?

Part B: If you think Mohammed was Illiterate
2. Haven read the hadiths presented, why would you still say that Mohammed was Illiterate?
3. Why did Jibril command Mohammed to read if he cannot read? And how come he still couldn't read after this command

Dear Mr honesttalk21
Is Mohammed literate or an Illiterate man?

AntiChristian:
Where did i say that?

Point me to it!

Lies don dey start small small!

It was a question that needed clarification

TenQ:
So you are saying that Mohammed was literate?

So, are you saying that Mohammed was literate or illiterate ?

AntiChristian:
1.) The Abrahamic God is omniscient.
Thus 2.) If Jesus is the Abrahamic God, then Jesus is omniscient, because someone cannot be who we've perceived him as and yet not have the essential attributes of that person.

3.) If Jesus is omniscient, then Jesus knows when his second coming will happen.
But 4.) Jesus does not know when his second coming will happen on grounds of the gospel.
And subsequently 5.) Jesus is not omniscient.

Hence 6.) Jesus is not the Abrahamic God.

7.) If Jesus is not the Abrahamic God, and yet the concept of God is attributed to him by means of any doctrine, then that doctrine contains the equivocation fallacy, particularly because it contains the attribution of once concept to two distinct persons.
Hence 8.) any doctrine that contains the attribution of God to Jesus contains the equivocation fallacy.

9.) The doctrine of the trinity and the doctrine of the hypostatic union and the Athanasian creed contains the attribution of the concept of God to Jesus.
And subsequently 10.) the doctrine of the trinity, the Athanasian creed, and the doctrine of the hypostatic union contains the equivocation fallacy.
11.) Every doctrine that contains the fallacy violates the law of identity.
So 12.) the doctrine of the trinity etc violates the law of identity.
13.) If a doctrine violated the law of identity, then it also violates the law of non contradiction, because the violation of the law of identity implies that A is not A.
And subsequently 14.) the doctrine of the trinity violates the law of non contradiction.
15.) For every doctrine, the doctrine is not logically incoherent if (and only if) it does not violate the law of non contradiction.
Hence 16.) the doctrine of trinity is necessarily logically incoherent.

17.) If a doctrine is logically incoherent, then the doctrine is not true, because only that which is coherent is true on grounds of the coherence theory of truth.
Hence 18.) the doctrine of trinity etc is not true.
19.) It is either that a doctrine is true or false or logically incoherent.
Therefore 20.) the doctrine of trinity is not only logically incoherent but false.

Published by HasSan Ibn Maruphdeen

Please just answer this question and tell me if
1. It is true
2. It is logical.


Question 1:
Jubril is an Angel and he became a perfect Man when he came to Mary!
Since we know that man and angels are completely different, tell me:
Did Jibril stop being an Angel when he became Human?


Question 2:
Jesus is the Word of God, the Spirit of God and a human Messanger of God. Since the Word of God is not the Spirit of God and a human being is not a spirit.
Did Jesus stop being the Spirit of Allah and his word when he became Human?


These are examples of Duality and Trinity in Islam.
Please just answer these two simple questions and tell me if
1. It is true
2. It is logical.

AntiChristian:
being literate means the ability to read and write while illiteracy means the opposite.

I don't thing it's appropriate/sane to use the latter for our Prophet!

The proper word is Unlettered which roughly implies ignorance of the knowledge gained by reading!

So you are saying that Mohammed was literate?

FxMasterz:
With the deception came a veil upon your eyes so that even when the deceit is clearly shown to you, you simply ignore.

My forefathers were Muslims. They were forced into Islam on the pain of death. That's how Islam spread - become a Muslim or you die. Your ancestors would never have been Muslims if they were not forced.

There are people whose ancestors are Christians.. They were never forced. They were never cajoled. Even though, your religion is doing all it can to change the narrative. The missionaries came preaching love, showing love, and through love converted many. Not by the sword like Islam does.

To what purpose would you and your wife and children for Muslims? What rewards are you expecting? Eternal erection? Hope there's eternal erection for your wife too? If that's what you want, may you have eternal erection. But, I warn you my friend, there's nothing like that in eternity.

Would you answer all of TenQ's questions please? Was Mohammed really an illiterate? Are these not all lies?

Don't mind them.
The only kind of questions they are excited of answering are like
1. If there is no water, can I use Coca-Cola or Fanta for Ablution
2. If I do midnight prayer, how many times should I say Bismillahi?
3. Is it Haram or Halal to shave my arm pit hairs
4. I said "I divorce you" to my wife 2 and a half times. How do I say the last half if I want to divorce her

AntiChristian:
Just as Jesus replaced others before him!

Moses did same!

Like passing of baton in a race with Muhammad in the final lap!

What attributes, abi miracles?

No one replaced anyone except in Islam.

Even till today, Christians still carry all the books of the older prophets.


Mohammed is an impostor with nothing to show with character, direct interaction with God or miracles for authentication by God.
Isn't a book the Miracle of Mohammed?

KnownUnknown:
Transgenderism is not an idea like god, which you can subscribe and ascribe to, it’s a reality than you can easily confirm.
No need to subscribe or ascribe to it.

Too bad!

AntiChristian:
The same lies you guys spread here! Na your Bible get am!

1. Yahweh commands Execution by Stoning
If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
Deuteronomy 13:6-10

2. Do not follow other gods, the gods of the peoples around you; for the Lord your God, who is among you, is a jealous God and his anger will burn against you, and he will destroy you from the face of the land.
Deuteronomy 6:14

"Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the Lord must be destroyed."Exodus 22:20

See lies! Read how the Christian Slaveholders used the Bible to Justify Slavery https://time.com/5171819/christianity-slavery-book-excerpt/ You will see how they admitted using that in Africa!

Islam brings the real salvation by beliefs and works! And God doesn't need to have a son at all nor send his son who is himself to be killed again.... Those mysteries no dey in Islam!

And the fact that Jesus, your God also has a father and a God is problematic!

I'm obliged to answer questions i feel like answering! No one can make me answer any question!

AntiChristian,
Was Mohammed literate or illiterate?


How come you would rather talk other things?

Truthday:
Christians themselves knows they're idol worshippers. Not even when they're found everywhere supporting idolatry in Yoruba land. Even if you try so hard to disprove your book. Will you disprove reality before our eyes ?? shocked shocked cool shocked shocked shocked

Christianity(Jesus worshippers) aren't different from Songo(6th Allafin of Oyo) worshippers.

Christianity is nothing but idol worshipping

I laugh at you.

1. Mohammed is a partner with your Allah! Or you don't know that? Your instruction is the follow Allah AND his Messenger.
2. Can you recite the shahada without Mohammed? Not possible because Mohammed is your god besides Allah
3. Every day you pray five times facing the black stone in the Kaaba. Is this not idolatry?
4. You go to Mecca and kiss the black stone : is this not idolatry?


If we ask you what trinity is now, you are confused just as Allah and Mohammed!
We show you trinity in your Quran but you refuse to learn.

AntiChristian:
Even so now, I pray and hope me and my family, relatives, wives and kids will die as devoted Muslims! May we never even marry Christians!
I don't know who told you my eyes are closed! When was it closed?

All those your submissions are what the colonial masters who brought the Bible did to cajole your forefathers to embrace western education and western civilization!

And because of this all of you would have a guaranteed place in the fire of Hell as promised by Allah.

Jesus came because of your Salvation as the price has been paid on your behalf unfortunately people just as the chose Barabas in place of Jesus, Muslims are choosing Mohammed in place of the Messiah.

The Arab slave masters brought Islam to you have you forgotten that?

FxMasterz:
Still, a guy called antichristian curses himself everyday saying he'll die a Muslim. If only his eyes are opened. The deception in the religion is just too much. They tell them lies to promote Mohammed, Islam and the Quran. Then, tell them some other lies to de-market Christians, Jesus and the Bible.

The main purpose of Islam is to set up the system of the Antichrist where Jesus is replaced with Mohammed as the way to salvation.

Muslims cannot answer why Allah sent the Messiah with such attributes no human being on earth possess. Buy humans love darkness rather than light.

honesttalk21:
And Christ = وَٱلْمَسِيحَ

If وَٱلْمَسِيحَ means
AND the Christ
or
AND the Messiah

Why replace AND with ALSO?

honesttalk21:
وَأُولِي الْأَمْرِ Those in authority.
At this point Uthman was in authority.

The reasons for the burning was to bring unification and prevent differences. Hudhaifa was afraid that differences in the recitation of the Qur'an between the people amongst which were Sha'm and Iraq would lead to differences like that of the people of the book (Jews and Christians) and asked Uthman to save against similar arguments.

Uthman then ordered the commitee with Zaid ibn Thabit writing tp make perfect copies. He said should there be disagreements on any point in the Quran then it should be written in the dialect of the Quraish as the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue.

I don't know. You are Hadith Tenq Hadith Master squared to infinity.

No mistake made in asking it was to ease understanding and recitation of the people who would have been challenged otherwise.

Are you saying that those in authority are free to edit, modify, delete, eliminate the Qur'an at will!?


The Qur'an is a book already written in the mother book in heaven : how come Uthman has authority to eliminate some copies he doesn't like?

LordReed:
The illusion is the word god. The atheist is attempting to lack faith in something that cannot even be properly defined. That is not the same as falling for an illusion.

As long as the definition of Atheism or Ignostism cannot be said without God, I rest my case!

They why all the cock and bull story of IQRA:

Read, I cannot read?

Another Lie of Islam: Mohammed sold to Muslims as an Illiterate


The average Muslim believe erroneously that Mohammed was Illiterate because this is the preferred standard Islamic Narrative of Muslims. Unfortunately, this is a big lie(Taqqiya).

One of the characteristics of liars is the fact that they cannot maintain with consistency the preferred Narrative they have conjectured. This is like Mohammedu Buhari was sold to Nigerians as Poor and Righteous but just a few years down the line we hear an allegation that almost a billion Naira was stolen from his Wife Aisha.

Evidences from the Hadiths
1. Hadith by Ahmad very long

Musnad Ahmad 656
It was narrated that `Ubaidullah bin ‘Iyad bin `Amr al-Qari said:
`Abdullah bin Shaddad came and entered upon `A`ishah (رضي الله عنها) when we were sitting with her, as he was returning from Iraq during the time when ‘Ali (رضي الله عنه) was murdered....... .
But Suhail bin `Amr came to us when we were with the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) at al-Hudaibiyah, when he made a peace deal with Quraish, and the Messenger of Allah wrote, `In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.`
Suhail said: Do not write, In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. He said: What should we write? He said: Write: `In Your Name, O Allah.” The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Write `Muhammad the Messenger of Allah.`......



2. Mohammed could Read: Evidence from Abi Dawud

Sunan Abi Dawud 1629
Narrated Sahl ibn Hanzaliyyah:
Uyaynah ibn Hisn and Aqra' ibn Habis came to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ).....
As for Uyaynah, he took his document and came to the Prophet at his home, and said to him: Muhammad, do you see me? I am taking a document to my people, but I do not know what it contains, just like the document of al-Mutalammis. Mu'awiyah informed the Messenger of Allah of his statement.

Thereupon the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: He who begs (from people) when he has sufficient is simply asking for a large amount of Hell-fire. (An-Nufayl (a transmitter) said elsewhere: "embers of Hell".)
...


3. Evidence from the Qur'an
Quran 3:20
So if they argue with you, say, "I have submitted myself to Allah [in Islam], and [so have] those who follow me." And say to those who were given the Scripture and [to] the unlearned (وَالْأُمِّيِّينَ, wa-al-ummeena), "Have you submitted yourselves?" And if they submit [in Islam], they are rightly guided; but if they turn away - then upon you is only the [duty of] notification. And Allah is Seeing of [His] servants.

Those who were not given the scripture are the unlearned ones. Just as in Nigeria, we call Lawyers Learned fellows and it doesn't mean that the rest of us are illiterates.