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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need A Good Explanation On This by TenQ: 8:05pm On Jun 14, 2023
advocatejare:
Your name is Abdulsamad, you are a Muslim but you choose to be asking Christians these questions, go and ask your Alfas

Ask them how the people of hellfire will be scorched too like Muhammad said:

Sahih al-Bukhari 7450
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Some people will be scorched by Hell (Fire) as a punishment for sins they have committed, and then Allah will admit them into Paradise by the grant of His Mercy. These people will be called, 'Al-Jahannamiyyin' (the people of Hell).


And how they will be tortured by fire:

Sahih al-Bukhari 3265
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Your (ordinary) fire is one of 70 parts of the (Hell) Fire." Someone asked, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) This (ordinary) fire would have been sufficient (to torture the unbelievers)," Allah's Apostle said, "The (Hell) Fire has 69 parts more than the ordinary (worldly) fire, each part is as hot as this (worldly) fire."


Sahih al-Bukhari 2365
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "A woman was tortured and was put in Hell because of a cat which she had kept locked till it died of hunger." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) further said, (Allah knows better) Allah said (to the woman), 'You neither fed it nor watered when you locked it up, nor did you set it free to eat the vermin of the earth.' "


Bulugh al-Maram 565
‘Auf bin Malik (RAA) narrated that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) offered the funeral prayer, and I memorized this supplication (that he said for the deceased), “'O Allah! Forgive him and have mercy on him (on her). Grant him ease and respite. Make his resting place a noble one, and facilitate his entry. Wash him with the most pure and clean water, snow and hail. Purify him from sins as a white garment is cleansed of dirt. Give him in exchange a home better than his home (on earth) and a family better than his family. Grant him entrance to Paradise and protect him from the trials of the grave and the torture of Hell Fire." Related by Muslim.
Thank you for detecting this impostor!
I thought he was a wannabe Atheist on nairaland!
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by TenQ: 8:02pm On Jun 14, 2023
Lukuluku69:
To start with, there is NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING YOU can post or would post about MY ISLAM or About The Prophet I have not come across. Nothing. So, stop with your the Prophet says drool. I know what The Prophet said and what it means unlike you looking or reading your own meanings into them.

Of cos there are nomenclatures likes Sunni, Shia,Ahmadiyah and what have you. But what you failed to realize is the fact that all these SECTS still holds Allah has The Supreme Being, Pray Five Times Daily, Pay the Zakat, Fast During Ramadan and look forward to going for Hajj. That is their Islam. The minor or major differences are only in their interpretations (wrongly) of Verses.

Now, coming to your own people , do You guys agree on the Name of God yet? Have you agreed on who Jesus is? Some say he is "God", some say he is a man, some say he is a man-god morphing every now and then according to your interpretations.

The Unitarians amongst you say he is not God, the Trinitarians says he is one of the Triune Gods, I can go on and on....

As for the differences amongst Muslims as long as those differences doesn't make you take another being as God Almighty, you will be punished for that wrong and what you made people follow outside what is right and you will be pardon for at least not fall into the shirk of worshipping others except God.
Why did you not deny your prophet as lying. He says Islamic sects would be 73 sects.

It seems he also reported somewhere that only One out of the 73 will enter paradise.

This mean that a MAXIMUM of (1÷73)%=1.37% of you Muslims will enter paradise. And this will happen if EVERYONE within a sect is a True Muslim.

Please, which of the 73 sects is your's?
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by TenQ: 7:55pm On Jun 14, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Keep reading then.

Sebi you like reading.

Keep reading I am sure you will find it. cool
That means it isn't there.

I can't find the report about to return of Jesus and no Muslim Can show me where it is.

Too bad!
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 7:54pm On Jun 14, 2023
budaatum:
No, I am not saying "ALL NDE with OBE is a fabrication".

I am saying the experience is not of something that is real, more or less like a dream is not real but a figment of the imagination and the mind.
Let's assume OBEs are all Dreams: can you justify or explain why some OBEs report what is considered impossible for the subject to know (as a dream)
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 7:52pm On Jun 14, 2023
budaatum:
In your own personal sense, perhaps, just as you can decide in your sense that water is petrol.

In the generally accepted sense, a doctrine is a belief or set of beliefs held and taught by....... I've left the gap for you to fill.
And I will not be caught teaching NDE as doctrine : therefore it is not doctrine to me
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 7:50pm On Jun 14, 2023
Kobojunkie:
First of all Death is not a rule but God's judgment/ curse on mankind as a result of Adam's sin. undecided
The first "exception" to that curse came in the person of Abel, Adam's own son, who Jesus Christ revealed was approved righteous by God and hence sleeps in his grave — Abel obtained eternal life which was deprived those who are instead reduced to dust by the curse. undecided
The thing to note is that all that you refer to as "exceptions" to God's judgment and curse are made by God only to the righteous. undecided
So, you are saying that death did not come to all may kind through the curse on Adam and Eve!
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 7:48pm On Jun 14, 2023
LordReed:
LMAO! Please laugh very well at this wonderful tale that you god believers cannot even agree on. Bwahahahahahaha!
Laughing at what you don't understand is the peak of rashness.
Prof Howard was a conc Atheist when he had his experience, deal with it.

Was this Atheist lying with his experience?
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 7:44pm On Jun 14, 2023
budaatum:
It could be an elaborate conscious elaborate fabrication, like Swedenborg's, or an unconscious elaborate fabrication brought on by his mind while he was near death. Fact is, it is not a experience of a real thing that actually happened.
You said:
Fact is, it is not a experience of a real thing that actually happened.

Unfortunately, it is Not your experience and there are even reports of more compelling OBE with verifiable scientific reports. This is why scientists don't deny OBEs
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 7:42pm On Jun 14, 2023
Wawelexy:
I have been there myself, so I know what he's talking about.... Someone who has never been to China can never describe how it looks to you that have been there severally.... From his description, you can always tell if truly he's been there or maybe someone told him or better still he saw it in a book or video... Hope you get my point?
Overwhelming verifiable report of subjective experiences don't move anyone who have chosen to take the stance of atheism
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 7:40pm On Jun 14, 2023
budaatum:
Ah. And there was me thinking you believed it.

My apology is tendered
So are you saying that ALL NDE with OBE is a fabrication?

Prof Howard's experience reported an OBE!
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 7:38pm On Jun 14, 2023
budaatum:
It also seems to be the temporary suspension of the use of the brain if you asked me.

But perhaps that's why "Christians", some at least, never hunger, because manna miraculously falls into their mouths from heaven, and despite God being written to have supposedly stated otherwise, that you would sweat (work) before you eat!
There is NOTHING on earth that is permanent including Miracles.

Miracles are just temporal suspension of the laws of nature.

God Never designed that man live by miracles:No!

Man was designed to bend nature to his will by share force of knowledge and Hardworking while living according to God's Word
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 7:33pm On Jun 14, 2023
budaatum:
Please, TenQ, this thread is doctrine.

Everyone who lives knows that though from inside our mothers do we come forth, dust is what we return to when we die despite all the claims we wish to make about near death which is not death!
No sir!

A Doctrine in this sense is a spiritually established fact.

I cannot stick out my neck for any NDE as doctrine.

My objective is that especially you atheists will listen to Prof Howard Storm and judge if there is a semblance of truth in his testimony!

QED!
Christianity Etc › Re: Did The Mind Evolve From Chemistry, Matter And Energy? by TenQ(op): 7:25pm On Jun 14, 2023
Let me attempt to simplify the description of the Mind

triplechoice:
First of all ,what is mind as you understand it. Most people are not sure of what it is .Let me know your own definition of mind ,or the one you subscribe to so I can be sure we are on the same page on the matter.


That aside, please permit me to present to you the model of consciousness I currently work with. It doesn't find full scientific yet, so you are free to accept it if it resonates with you ,or reject it if it doesn't .

The terms, mind and consciousness, are used interchangeably by most people to mean the same thing, but they do not actually refer to the same reality.

Consciousness is the non physical aspect of one's being, (one's true self) ,whose exact nature is not known and understood by most people , that has occupied a physical body to experience life materially.

While, the human mind is formed from what consciousness, 'the real person, has made of all the impressions received through the brain. .The mind can also be regarded as an inner mental construct which houses all thoughts generated by the being occupying the body ,as well as the thoughts received from other people .

Fascimiles of these thoughts when created or received are simultaneosly stored in the brain memory to enable easier retrieval when needed.

What most people are actually doing when they believe they are thinking is just rehashing thoughts which are already stored in mind in order to select the best ones to guide what they want to do or say. Only few persons are capable of really thinking in order to come up with innovative ideas.

The brain, which corresponds to the mind, is the device in the body, that helps to modulate the functions of the physical body. How it does this has been scientifically explained .

Without a brain ,consciousness, the owner of the body cannot manifest its intentions through it.



And because of the synergy which exists amongs consciousness, the mind and the observable physical brain to control objective behaviour, It's difficult to see any separation between the them

But they can be separated .

For instance, If the body desires food, it sends signals through the mind to the brain repeatedly until one is forced to act on it to move the physical body to go look for food.

We all can recollect those times in the past when an image of something; a place to visit or a food to eat it, is insistently flashed across the screen of our mind, without us being able to do anything to stop the thoughts. For some persons ,the signal manifest as a nudge to act on something .

Once this starts to happen, our brain, which is connected to mind, starts preparing the body for action . If it's sex ,we start to experience an erection . My apologies for the sex illustration .

When the consciousness within, the real person, that dwells in the body is not fully awaken to what is going on within itself , and is unable to pause to reason it out, whether to act or not
,it obeys like a zombie to move the body to go get the food , without giving much consideration to the fact it just finished eating that same food, and not even hungry yet.


The knowledge of what I just explained is the guiding principle behind all kinds of advertising, ,especially the insidious type of modern advertising that uses subliminal mesasges to get to one's mind in order to force you to buy something you don't even need. .

When we watch our favourite programme on television ,our brain is inundated at regular intervals with images from advertisers that are meant to control the things we will do later.

Understanding correctly what we truly are can only empower us to take control of our own lives so that other people don't influences us unduly and make us act in ways that are to our own detriment




.

I can't make head nor tail of what you explained up there.


Overlap between what senses?



You need to revisit what you typed and make it very clear.
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Who has said the mind is just a function of chemicals?, and how is that even explained ?

I don't agree to that .

Chemicals produce in the brain are most times the effects of what is going on within the mind .
A man is made as a Trinity of a Body, Soul and Spirit.
Body:
The Body is the Physical representation of a man's being in the physical world. He is able to make physical changes to his environment and sense energies from his environment. In the physical realm, the Body is a Man's Physical Identity
The Spirit :
The Spirit is the Spiritual representation of a man's being in the spirit world. He is able to make spiritual changes to his environment and sense energies from this environment. In the spirit realm, the Spirit is a Man's Spiritual Identity
Soul:
The Soul is the Personal representation of a man's being to Himself. A man is able to Will, Think and Express Emotions with his soul. The man's Soul is His INTERNAL identity of I, ME or MYSELF.
The Soul interfaces with the Physical Body and the Spiritual Body of a man.

At Physical Death, the Body is disconnected from the Union of His Soul and Body.
At Physical Death, the Soul remains connected to the Spirit of the Person.


The Soul is akin to the SOFTWARE (Application Software and System Software/Operating System) of the Hardwares of the Body and his Spirit.

The Brain is akin to the Union of the CPU, GPU, ROM, RAM and HDD of a Computer System.

The MIND is the Union of the Faculty of INTELECT, WILL and MEMORY of an individual. It is a subset of the Soul

All Insects, Animals have a Body and a Soul.
All Angels Have a Soul and a Spirit Body
All Demons have a Soul and a Spirit Body
All Humans have a Spirit, Soul and a Body.
Education › Re: ACA-A-THON: FUOYE Lecturer, Joshua Hassan Tries To Break Guinness World Record by TenQ: 10:12am On Jun 14, 2023
chatinent:
I think we are uncreative as a people to an extent. Not the majority but a significant minority. Whenever a trend comes to the limelight, everyone will begin to do it. That was how Mark Angel began using Emanuella for his skits and before you knew it, the whole streets turned to be skit makers...some even started using little kids too... I mean, following the same pattern!

My neighbor was hopping mad on this trend. He became the new comedian yet to be known carrying his ring-lights upandan. I am not a discouraging fellow...in fact, even in nonsense, I'll still encourage you. I believe sth good can come out of anything.

He misdeemed it for being his big fan and asked me to share his clips on all my platforms, even though I don't even do that with my own personal videos. It was like he was barking up the wrong tree and got his feathers ruffled when I didn't comply.

Alright, alright, chief, I made up my mind to check out the video and share it. In fact, I shared the video and decided to watch it on my profile wall. Could you believe this guy made a video where he used Gulder Lager beer and swallowed it with fufu? Like repeatedly like trying so hard to be funny?Damn. Wtf! Even idiot no go laugh at this naw! I don already post the video..na speed I go delete am. What nonsense! You wan puncture my reputation?

Some of you emulate these skit makers who you feel became rich with skits! Lol. None of them popular you know today became rich with skit making! I mean none. Some just needed the skit-making for coverups. Even Hilda Baci didn't become that rich and comfortable with just cooking, and breaking records. Girl don already dey the dey before she dey where you think she dey now. You need to stop also believing everything you see online. Be you, everyone else is taken.

Same with this Guinness Record thingy. Everyone now wants to break an existing record since Hilda did it with the kitchen.

Even if you feel like copying sb or that person is your role model, do sth different. For example, Mark Angel was copying some online jokes but did it his way. You can copy your role model and do sth new! Why discover when you can invent?!


It's just like those niccurs saying we should join their forum they created exactly like Nairaland. Why'd anyone want to dump Nairaland for a duplicate? You'll always be a second opinion naw! Why want to be like Nairaland when you can aim to compete Facebook in Nigeria? Chief, you sef reason am.

If you no know wetin be your talent, watch Brits Got Talent naw. You fit see wetin apply to you.



Back to the matter...

Computer science wey dem dey teach for Nigeria and graduate no even sabi how to close html tags. Una dey teach only "computer" leave the "science." Na theory you wan teach for 6.25 days?


Btw, whose pikin he go dey teach for that long?
I understand your point with the apparent obsession of Nigerians from copying their neighbour especially when money or fame is involved to the point that they would even saturate the market and turn a profitable venture into nothing.

However and Not withstanding,
Guinness Records are meant to be broken.
He has at least chosen a unique path Lecturing (not marathon cooking) : with this he deserves an applause.

I will want a situation where in the Guinness book of Records, Nigerians would have the highest number of records broken of any national in the world. But this can only take place if we pick our own unique records to break. There is nothing really new under the sun.
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 9:59am On Jun 14, 2023
budaatum:
A near death experience where the "Bottom line based on his Own Report is He was sick and died".

Surely, it could not have been near if he died, or could it?

Then he goes to hell, as religiously expected, since that's where he's been informed atheists go, and he expects to be believed of course. lol.

Guess he might not have heard of Swedenborg who went to heaven and also to hell without nearing death not to talk of dying.
If you had checked carefully, I was careful to let him speak his Own testimony.

All I ask is that you ask yourself the question : Could this have being an eleborate fabrication?

He saw himself in a bad loveless place!
For want of language, the nearest word would be hell.

The conclusion :
He stopped being an Atheist!
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 9:44am On Jun 14, 2023
MightySparrow:
Check her profile, she even has her picture there like Jezebel's
Okay.
I'll do so!
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Islam is a Cult of Mohammed! by TenQ(op): 9:43am On Jun 14, 2023
Since you speak about spiritual blindness :
What is a Spirit?
Who is the Holy Spirit?

gaskiyamagana:
Good of you and your wasted ordained efforts of exposing deception of Islam from the realm of your spiritual blindness and curability of which your resistance is surprising
I stand on the mandate of the Messiah of course who the spiritually blind does not know why He came to the world.
I stand on the mandate of the Holy Spirit who the spiritually blind do not know.
I stand on the mandate of the Father of Life and the President Eternal of the seen and unseen who the spiritually blind do not know.

If you know, please tell me.

Note:
If you are spiritually alive and seeing, you will be able to answer spiritual questions.
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 9:30am On Jun 14, 2023
MightySparrow:
If you have spare time, answer kobojunkie. She is really a junkie.
I've always thought Kobojunkie is a man. Is she truly a woman!?
If she is, she must be truly caustic and difficult to live with.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Need A Good Explanation On This by TenQ: 7:21am On Jun 14, 2023
Mikel99:
Define natural and spiritual bodies.
Your natural body is your biological or physical body

Your spiritual body is your non biological body visible in the spiritual realm as you the same way how Angels are visible to themselves in the spiritual realm.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Need A Good Explanation On This by TenQ: 7:18am On Jun 14, 2023
vdestro:
Your first problem is definition of the word "immediate".

How long is immediate?
The Bible clearly shows us that even Cain and those idiots who worshipped the golden calf have not been judged yet, so that gives you an idea of how long immediate is.

So now you see, they never cease to exist and now you understand why the Bible Said "and he rested with his fathers"
He meant judgement of Hell rather than judgement of the Lake of Fire.
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 7:16am On Jun 14, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Exception to what exactly? undecided

You are here asserting that God is not faithful and hence should not be trusted to abide by His own agreement to men. And you think I am the one putting Him in a cage? undecided
God made the rule of death for mankind : true or false?
Enoch was an exception to the rule of death for mankind : true or false?
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 5:51am On Jun 14, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Abel, Noah, Enoch( no record of him dying at all), Seth, Abraham, Isaac, Moses, etc. , examples of men who also didn't turn to dust --- they were all righteous men. So why would Elijah have had to turn to dust? undecided
Thanks for reminding me of Enoch!

Another exception!?


You cannot put God in your cage bro!
Christianity Etc › Re: I Need A Good Explanation On This by TenQ: 5:46am On Jun 14, 2023
Mikel99:
Can you reconcile your claim that human is not a physical being in hell with the bible verse that states" If your eye causes you to fall into sin, it is better for you to gourge it out than for your whole body to be thrown into hell" note that the verse makes a reference to the presence of the physical body in hell.
Jesus used the word Hell here synonymously with the lake of fire as He speaks of Resurrection of the dead at the establishment of or Entrance into the kingdom of God.
AND Even if Jesus refer not to the Lake of Fire but Hell as place of quarantine , we have two bodies: physical and spiritual.

Mrk 9:43-48:
"If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life maimed than to have two hands and to go into hell, into the unquenchable fire. If your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life lame than to have your two feet and be thrown into hell. If your eye causes you to stumble, tear it out. [highlight ]It is better for you to enter into the kingdom of God[/highlight ] with one eye than to have two eyes and to be thrown into hell, where their worm does not die, and the fire is not put out."


Entrance into the kingdom of God is after resurrection and judgement.

Secondly
A Soul/Spirit is a Being with non physical body.

1Co 15:44:
"It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body."
Christianity Etc › Re: I Need A Good Explanation On This by TenQ: 5:29am On Jun 14, 2023
Mikel99:
TenQ, see a lot a pastors support the judgement of the dead immediately after death. Even the Bible states that after death is judgement. What happens to a criminal when he is judged at a court of law? Is he not sentenced?How does a criminal who has been judged said to have face justice If he is not punished after judgement? What is the purpose of judgement if criminals are not punished after it? Will it make sense? Why will God then judge people if after that they just cease to exist or rest? Imagine two people(one righteous and one vile) who are brought to the presence of a judge for judgement. If the judge pronounces them to both go and rest , will his judgement make sense. Why make judgement to nothing's effect?
Jesus, on whom Christianity is focused on, would have never mentioned hell as a place of punishment for the vile as a joke.
It is important to know that SIN (violation against the Integrity of God) has an infinite punishment DEATH! Death here is an eternal disconnection and rejection of a person body, soul and spirit from God.

Hell (not lake of fire) is a place of Quarantine (Holding Cell) of undeserable souls and not the place of Judgement. The Lake of fire is the place of Judgement where even the evil person receive the judgement according to his deeds. I do not belive that there is the same magnitude of punishment for sinners in the lake of fire.

Rev 20:12-13:
"I saw the dead — the mighty and the unimportant — standing before the throne, and the books were opened. Then another book was opened — The Book of Life. The dead were judged by what was recorded in the books, according to their deeds. The sea gave up the dead who were in it. Death and Hades (Hell) gave up the dead who were in them, and the dead were judged according to what they had done."


Jesus described the eternal nature of the place of judgement as it is better to lose everything here on earth than retain them and land in hell.
Mrk 9:43-48:
"If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life maimed than to have two hands and to go into hell, into the unquenchable fire. If your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life lame than to have your two feet and be thrown into hell. If your eye causes you to stumble, tear it out. It is better for you to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and to be thrown into hell, where their worm does not die, and the fire is not put out."


If the Second death is mere annihilation, the warnings wouldn't be this severe.

I don't know If I've answered some of your questions
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 5:04am On Jun 14, 2023
Kobojunkie:
You aren't paying attention at all, are you? undecided

God's judgment in Genesis 3 vs 19 - 24 was declared by God over those who reject Him beginning with Adam. Those who fail to obtain eternal life(and afterlife) are returned to dust from which they were made. Elijah was a righteous man of God so why would he have had need to share the same fate with the unrighteous? undecided
My question was simple:

When did Elijah die and become dust?
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 4:51am On Jun 14, 2023
Kobojunkie:
1. How was Elijah an exception? Exception to which of God's laws? undecided

2. What exactly am I looking for as I read through those chapters?, undecided
When did Elijah die and become dust?
Christianity Etc › Re: I Need A Good Explanation On This by TenQ: 4:48am On Jun 14, 2023
Mikel99:
Of course, it is possible for demons to co-exist in one person. They are spirits and can fit in. This is however different from humans burning in a place and are separated from each other. 8nfact, there's a special space for everyone.
You didn't read my post.

1. There is a difference between Hell and the Lake of Fire.

4. However, even IF this is true and Hell is under the earth : a human being is NOT a physical being in Hell (as it is not yet resurrected). In quarantine, a human being is a union of his Soul and Spirit. Thus, he is not bound by physical space and volume.
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 4:46am On Jun 14, 2023
Kobojunkie:
That makes no sense. God has power to does not mean God m makes exceptions because God said
■ He does not change His mind — He does not make exceptions.
■ He is a faithful God meaning — He does not break the agreements/Covenants He has made with men
■ His Word is Everlasting — The contract/agreement/covenant He makes never changes and remains ironclad for eternity.

Stop trying so hard to make a liar of God for Pete's sake. undecided
Tell me that Elijah wasn't an exception!?

Read to understand the Bible
Jeremiah 18, Exodus 32, 1 Samuel15, and Numbers 23
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 4:32am On Jun 14, 2023
Kobojunkie:
1. Hell has nothing to do with natural Law but God's Law, and if you made that bit clear when you quoted from scripture in your attempts to provide backing for what happened to this atheist's story. So, please stop diving back and forth. Try to focus instead. There are no exceptions provided in God's Law as far as His declarations and judgments. undecided
As long as even you can attest to the fact that God has power to make an exception out of anything, my case is made.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Need A Good Explanation On This by TenQ: 4:29am On Jun 14, 2023
Mikel99:
Christians claim that [b]approximately 100billion [/b]humans have ever lived on this planet (am talking about only the dead) and the majority , that is, over 70% did not make heaven. Some also claim that Hell is located beneath the Earth. As big as this planet is, the maximum number of people it can accommodate is 10 billion . How then can a place located deep under the Earth contain so many?
Again christians say that when you go to hell, you burn eternally. With a simple logic, this is impossible because when you are exposed to an unfavorable condition (like pain) for a very long period of time , you will become adapted to that condition. That is, you will no longer feel the pain. To illustrate, consider dipping your hand in a boiling pot of water for as long as four hours. At the start, you will feel an excruciating pain, but after a while, your body will get used to it and you will no longer feel the pain. We can even explain this using the concept of adaptation . When a species is exposed to a new or unfavorable condition, if it can't leave, it will become adapted to that condition. So how is it possible for a person to be feeling the SAME LEVEL OF PAIN FOR ETERNITY?
Please I don't need atheists and Jehovah witnesses views on this.
1. There is a difference between Hell and the Lake of Fire.
2. The word translated as Hell depending on its context may refer to the place unrighteous people at death are quarantined or just the grave
3. There is no scriptural evidence to conclusively prove that Hell as the place quarantine is Under the earth.
4. However, even IF this is true and Hell is under the earth : a human being is NOT a physical being in Hell (as it is not yet resurrected). In quarantine, a human being is a union of his Soul and Spirit. Thus, he is not bound by physical space and volume.

Example :
A legion of demons could fit inside a man living in the tomb at Gadarene

Mar 5:2-15:
"And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit, Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains: Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him. And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones. But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with you, Jesus, you Son of the most high God? I adjure you by God, that you torment me not. For he said to him, Come out of the man, you unclean spirit. And he asked him, What is your name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. And he sought him much that he would not send them away out of the country. Now there was there near to the mountains a great herd of swine feeding. And all the devils sought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them. And immediately Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand; ) and were choked in the sea. And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done. And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid."


Do your maths :
A Legion is between 3000-7000 of the Roman Army
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 4:12am On Jun 14, 2023
Kobojunkie:
1. Really? Lazarus, the friend of Jesus Christ, likely died more than once. So, it is either you fail to grasp the message intended by the one you quote or you are accusing him or her of falsehood. undecided

2. Rubbish! God does need to break anything. He is the one who instituted the judgment that is called Death in Genesis 3 vs 19 in response to Adam's transgression of His Law. God is also the one who instituted Death as a judgment against Sin in His order Law to the people of Israel in the land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. The same God is the one who instituted Eternal Damnation(complete with an afterlife) as judgment for those in His other law to the sinners of Israel - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. God has no need to break anything since it is all as described in His Law and Plan. undecided

3. Huh? undecided

4. Elijah was a man approved righteous by God in His Old Law at the time he was taken away, only to be reborn hundreds of years later as John the Baptist. For what reason would Elijah have had reason to be turned to dust? undecided
So there are exceptions to that you argue mindlessly about!?

The spirit of argument has possessed you!
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ(op): 4:09am On Jun 14, 2023
Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ said His followers have the power to raise those who are dead back to life. The same Jesus Christ also said to someone else, "Let the dead bury their dead." lipsrsealed

2. Who cares? I just read of a woman who was declared dead but found alive many days afterward. What has that to do with anything? undecided

3. Adherants to the religion of Christianity believe in miracles don't mean miracles only happen to them. Jesus Christ made clear that God pours out the very same favor/kindness/mercy/compassion on all living beings including the wicked and the ungrateful. Well, you may choose to relate miracles to natural laws but God's Law is not natural Law and His Law is unchanging — everlasting. If you don't know the difference between your "natural law" and God's Law, you have no business pretending to know God. undecided
See how you are confusing yourself :
Only God has the right to allow a bend in the normal laws of nature AND He does that to whoever He wills Christian or no Christian!
The result of any such bend in the laws of nature is that praise and honour goes back to God.
Miracles happen sometimes because a Christian prays to God and many times, miracles are not even solicited But God through His mercies does it.

Tell me if a Boeing 747 crash and a person survives that it's not a miracle from God. Don't you realise that EVEYTHING we receive here on earth was GIVEN by God!?
1Cor 4:7:
"For who makes you to differ from another? and what have you that you did not receive? now if you did receive it, why do you glory, as if you had not received it?"

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