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LegalWolf:
A deity that needs blood and burnt ashes before he forgives is nothing other than imbe!

If that his who you worship, your god (it) is an imbe!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽

I am blessed that my God is not a Deformed and Handicap personality!

bobestman:
You said God is not the God of the dead but the living. And still said at death we go to see God. You are contradicting yourself. No one sees God at death cos he deals only with the living. This is why you were told that their would be a resurrection of the just and unjust. Good and bad. You can only see God at the hour of resurection. One can only see God as a living being. The dead know nothing untill they are reborn/born again/resurrect. For one to see the kingdom he must be reborn/born again at the age when the kingdom comes on earth. If he qualifies as a wheat he would be gathered but as a tares he is destroyed and won't have eternal life. This is what is hidden from many of you christians in John 3.

I never said that at death we go see God. I said at death, we go to the place where Father Abraham is or we go to the place where the "Rich Man" is.

1. If Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are dead and know nothing, why did God say
Luk 20:37-38:
"Now that the dead are raised, even Moses showed at the bush, when he calls the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live to him."

Jesus gave the answer
To us as humans, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are Dead
BUT
To God, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are NOT Dead

According to you, Are Abraham, Isaac and Jacob DEAD to God?


There are three kinds of death in the Bible
i. Physical Death:
When you (your Soul and Spirit) are disconnected from your body
Beat a dead lion till tomorrow, the corpse knows nothing
ii. Spiritual Death:
When your spirit is disconnected from God even when you are physically alive
iii. Second Death:
After resurection, a person is eternally spirit, soul and body disconnected from God.


YOUR misconception is why you couldn't answer the questions I asked you.

With respect to Matt 10:28
Matt 10:28
28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Question:
1. What is the Soul of a person?
2. When a person dies, what happens to his Soul?
3. Why can a human being not kill or destroy the Soul?



Let me ask you another question since you raised the subject of Wheat and Tares

Mat 13:40-42:
"As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

1. In the furnace of fire, would there be wailing and gnashing of teeth
a. Before the person is thrown into the fire or After the person is thrown into the fire?
b. How long would the wailing and Gnashing of teeth be?

2. Why do you think Jesus didn't say
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: where they would die
3. If the furnace of fire annihilates the offending souls, how come the worms do not die?
Mar 9:44:
"Where their worm dies not, and the fire is not quenched."

Aemmyjah:
. So, the soul Jesus said can be killed will not DIE abi. What is the soul. Read Genesis 2:7... Soul can mean different things. It could mean the human as a whole, animals, someone's life. Just as the Bible said that Jesus gave up his soul (some translation uses life). Jesus gave up his life or soul for the world. A soul can sin, be touched with a sword, die, Perish. The soul and nothing in humans is immortal. Unless you want to contradict scripture to suit your philosophy.... that whosoever believe in him shall not PERISH (or be destroyed) and have everlasting life.

If you don't know the answer, wait and the person who knows will help you out.

The question is an application question and I asked the question not you.

Do you concur that the use of the term Soul can have several meanings?
If you do, the question is based on the Words Christ Himself spoke in Matt 10:28


Hence,:

With respect to Matt 10:28
Matt 10:28
28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Question:
1. What is the Soul of a person?
2. When a person dies, what happens to his Soul?
3. Why can a human being not kill or destroy the Soul?

Aemmyjah:
What does it mean to KILL a soul. Do you now agree that based on what the BIBLE says, the soul dies. And it is not immortal. If so, what happens to a soul when it has been KILLED. Will it still retain any consciousness

Jesus clearly distinguished between the killing of the body (, which humans can do) and the destruction of the soul (which only God can do). I have asked a simple question to which the mislead couldn't answer.


With respect to Matt 10:28
Matt 10:28
28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Question:
1. What is the Soul of a person?
2. When a person dies, what happens to his Soul?

LegalWolf:
Shut the f-ck up and write a thread! You worshipper of a blood-guzzling lazy imbe! A deity that needs blood and burnt ashes before he forgives is nothing other than imbe!

If that his who you worship, your god (it) is an imbe 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽

Someone pushing desperately for a handicapped personality with one leg and shin and two hands with the left displaced to the right.

MaxInDHouse:
Close the chapter!

No !
Write your query first!

I will respond and apologize!


Even satan masquerade as of the Light!
SMH!

MaxInDHouse:
Where is your apology letter?

Write your query first!

sonmvayina:
That question should be for you...and Christians..

The spirit returns to God who gave it and the dead soul is buried for it to return to dust from which it was made...


Hell is a Christian concept...

It has got nothing to do with God.

The new testament is not scriptures it is Greco/Roman mythology or ideology...

That's why you are messed up.
You respond to me based on the bible, even though my question was specific. Now, you absolve yourself because you realize you don't have an answer!

It's okay: at least, you know that you don't have an answer

MaxInDHouse:
I never mentioned you in the first place because you and i aren't worshiping the same God!

This is another of your mentions

With respect to Matt 10:28
Matt 10:28
28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Question:
With Matt 10:28 in perspective
1. What is the Soul of a person?
2. When a person dies, what happens to his Soul?

maleekberry:
https://punchng.com/oruma-the-travails-of-an-olympic-medalist/

This problem is not unique to sportsmen alone, Nigeria does not care for ANY of her citizens no matter the value you have given to the Nation.

The only people of value are politicians who have stolen billions in dollars from the national treasury: these would be immortalised as national heros

LegalWolf:
💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽

Salvation and Deliverance from Hell fire is often despised until it is too late!

Have a nice weekend!

The word Soul can have a number of meanings, that was why my question was specific

With respect to Matt 10:28
Matt 10:28
28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

sonmvayina:
Let us make man in our image after our likeness....

And God formed man from the dust of the earth and breathed through his nostrils the breathe of life and Man became a living soul..


A living soul is = Dust if the earth+ Gods breathe.

A dead soul is = Dust of the earth - Gods breathe.
When a person experiences death, it means God has taken his breath...
We are all God's breath(spirit) experiencing life in multiple ways....

The purpose of life lies therein....that is to achieve unity..

We are a soul, we don't have a soul...

So, according to you, a soul can be living or dead

1. If the soul is merely God's breath, will God kill his breath in hell?
(I assume he'll here means the GRAVE according to your JW doctrines )
Please correct me if I'm wrong
This is exactly why Maximus is avoiding my question

Question:
With Matt 10:28 in perspective
1. What is the Soul of a person?
2. When a person dies, what happens to his Soul?

The slime and filth of Islam as a religion will take more than me or a space like NL alone to clean off.

If you look at my last post, you'll find that it is about 8 pages long. It shows something about you Muslims: you can only make noise when the truth in Islam is kept under the radar!

LegalWolf:
Hey Potential Thief,

Since Monday is a public holiday, when are you going to write a thread? Have you exhausted your ammunitions? Don't be sleazy and lazy like ... ukr ? ? So put your pen together and do the work, don't be an idi0t

Hoping to hear from you before close of business on Monday

Cheers X!

As the Coward you are, you pretended you didn't see my questions in the last 40 days but of course you did and that is sufficient for me. One of these days, the mercy of God would be extended to you and you will come to God for your SALVATION!

It is obvious to you now that Mohammed is leading you to hell fire where he promises you endless penis, perpetual virgins, booze/wine in a place where all forms of debauchery is legal.

Question:
What would be the relationship of Muslims with Allah in paradise?

MaxInDHouse:
There's no need waiting for my explanation if you know the answer to your own question.

Are you ready to learn from what JWs teaches?

If YES is your answer then you have to tender an apology for all the nonsense and ingredients you often say when begging for knowledge.

I don't keep records of most people until they come up again with their usual attitude, i was responding to you earlier because i have forgotten the moniker now that you've reminded me with your usual behaviour that apology you refused to tender the other time comes to mind again.

What is soul and what happened to soul at death?

I will answer but you must tender apology first and openly confess that you're ready to learn from Jehovah's Witnesses otherwise keep what you know to yourself i'm not interested!

You over rate yourself. Who do you think you are?

What offence have I committed: please post it here as evidence.
Only after that can I apologize for your perceived "behaviour of insanity"?

Everything to dodge answering questions!
As you don't know, please get off my mention!

Matt 10:28
28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Question:
With Matt 10:28 in perspective
1. What is the Soul of a person?
2. When a person dies, what happens to his Soul?

MaxInDHouse:
Find answer to your questions!
Over 41,000 different sects are using the Bible yet they all have contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines so if you're not ready to learn from me it's not by force go find your answers elsewhere!
There's nothing like soul after a person dies because the person is the same as the soul, when a person dies it means reduction of the human population but to his or her love ones they feel it should have been someone else that's what soul means not that an unseen thing survives the dead!

Sorry sir.
It was Mr Maximus I asked two insanely simple questions to see if he understands the scripture
Matt 10:28
28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

It's obvious, the response to those questions have not yet been memoriesd by you. Otherwise


Question:
1. What is the Soul of a person?
2. When a person dies, what happens to his Soul?

MaxInDHouse:
Since you and i aren't worshiping the same God it's better you take your question to those worshiping the same deity as you do!

Unfortunately, you use my bible don't you?
LOL!

jaephoenix:
You're so daft you don't even know what punch drunk is? I thought u said you're a former boxer? Was that a lie too, like the other ones?

...Ignored!

Punch, referring to a beverage, indicates either a spiced concoction of hard liquor, wine, or beer and fruit juices (sometimes tea), or a refreshing, nonalcoholic mixture of fruit juices often with carbonated soda added; both are made in "party" size quantities.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/punch-words-and-phrases-history

jaephoenix:
Lemme break this down. Maybe you're still punch drunk
NOBODY WAS AROUND WHEN YAHWEH CREATED THE WORLD, AND IN FACT, WRITING WASNT IN EXISTENCE THEN. SO WHO FIRST WROTE DOWN THE STORY OF CREATION? WHO GAVE THAT PERSON THE HISTORY?

I get you.

Are you concurring that The person who first wrote down an Oral history is the originator of the story!?

Adam and Eve were illiterates and deaf and dumb at the same time. They know nothing of value to be passed down to their children. The same with Noah, he was even in addition to being deaf and dumb, a brute who didn't tell anyone why he was building the ark.

See your life!?

MaxInDHouse:
You've come again with your questions, shey?

Sorry my guy, you and i aren't worshiping the same God so if you're not OK with what i said it's not difficult, go and worship with your fellow believers. I never came here for you!

Of course, we aren't worshiping the same DEITY. You worship two Gods. One you call the Almighty God and the other you call mighty god. That is why you and Muslims are close brethren: simple questions are enough to unravel your faulty theologies.

It is not about regurgitation of memory verses, do you understand what you have memorised?


With Reference to
Matt 10:28
28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Question:
1. What is the Soul of a person?
2. When a person dies, what happens to his Soul?

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus spoke our language {Zephaniah 3:9} but if we don't teach you it's difficult to grasp.

All Adam's descendants are dead from God's viewpoint {Luke 9:60; Romans 3:23; 5:12} but those practicing righteousness are living to Him so even though they die their names are written in God's memory book {John 11:25 compare to Malachi 3:16} for resurrection! John 5:28-29

I didn't ask you for memory verses, I am asking two simple questions to know your level of comprehension of the words of Christ. If you claim that Jesus spoke our language, then the questions shouldn't be difficult to answer in our language.

Are the questions difficult?
If you can't answer the questions, how can you claim an understanding of the scripture through Christ.



With Reference to
Matt 10:28
28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Question:
1. What is the Soul of a person?
2. When a person dies, what happens to his Soul?

MightySparrow:
Yeah

The Peace of God be to you Bro!

MaxInDHouse:
YES, but DEAD in their graves to be resurrected as RIGHTEOUS! John 5:28-29; Act 24:15

Then according to Jesus, God is NOT the God of the Dead: meaning that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were only Physically dead but not dead to God!

Only God has the Power to KILL the Body and AFTER that still kill the SOUL!
I am sure you don't understand what this mean.

Matt 10:28
28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.



Question:
1. What is the Soul of a person?
2. When a person dies, what happens to his Soul?

MightySparrow:
My friend.
That's my belief.

Even at our death, God still remain God_Yahweh over us.
We are either in the Place where Abraham is or the Place where the "Rich Man" was domiciled.

MightySparrow:
Do you mean that death leads to God? Exlly.

At death, dont we return to God?

MaxInDHouse:
That's why He is longing to bring His friends back to life {Job 14:13-15} because it's like He's watching life videos of all His loyal ones whenever He remembers them! Luke 20:37-38

As for those who never cared about God's word or feelings He (God) has no record of them so when God is bringing back His faithful friends {John 5:28-29} those who don't care about Him will be forgotten in their graves! Psalms 9:17

Is Jehovah God the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?

MaxInDHouse:
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. Ecclesiastes 9:5-6

Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave (hell), whither thou goest. Ecclesiastes 9:10

God is not the God of the dead, but of the living

jaephoenix:
You're still punch drunk. Check in with the neurosurgeon

I don't drink, you're wrong again.

Are you still dazed?

jaephoenix:
Ok, then. How did we get the story of the creation?

The story of creation is known by all the ancients who kept a history of their genealogy. Over time, every culture distorted or even sometimes completely lost the original story. The version of Moses was that as passed through his lineage who was still faithfully committed to the Creator through Abraham. Many ancient cultures still had the story of the flood of Noah with characters changed, storyline changed and purpose changed.

So, other than creation, I've even given you that of the great flood.

jaephoenix:
Please how did Moses supposedly write the genesis?

Did your research indicate that God dictated the book of Genesis to Moses?

jaephoenix:
Same way it doesn't make sense for a Muslim to debate holy stuff with an infidel like you
Who beat me blue black? You mean that quick that thinks SRs are induced by Yahweh? No thank you!

I was wondering how like a boxer who is dazed cannot see and thus could even hit the referee to survive the match. You confidently accused me of something I know nothing about hence, the pix of the beatenboxer came to mind.

Sorry, I used to box in those days before I realized the the sport was not for me.

It is difficult with your level of confidence to think you were not dazed!
LOL!

jaephoenix:
In one sentence, explain why you harass Muslims but run away from atheists

By the way, do you think it is sensible discussing religion with SPIRITUALLY BLIND F_OO_LS?

Before I respond to you why I speak to Muslims, will you admit that you were beaten blue-black by someone else that you couldnt see properly and thus had to just point to a random passerby in TenQ and accuse him of debating you on medical related matters?

jaephoenix:
I don't give a Bleep about Muslims. My point is whoever lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones. Your Bible is fraught with loads of contradictions and falsehoods but you ignore it and attack the qoran. Thats my point

You don't need to personally give a single hoot about Muslims?
You are controlled by the same master, hence your master DIRECTED you to come to the Defence of Muslims.
And you did: Case dismissed!

Did God WRITE the Bible?
Did God DICTATE the Bible?
Muslims claim that the Quran is the DICTATED and Perfectly PRESERVED Verbatim Words of Allah!
And this is their primary instrument of ENSLAVEMENT to both Christians and Muslims!

The Knowledge of the Truth Sets Free!

Defend Muslims if you can, both of you would be rubbished and put in your place by simple set of words!

Have you read my posts about Muslims?
Is there any thing I've said that their OWN spiritual Books did not say?
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