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If demons believe does that mean faith is not enough?
First, what do demons believe

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Demons believe there is one God. Believing there is one God is not a saving faith.

What then is the saving faith?
The saving faith is trust in Jesus christ, and his finished work on the cross.
The blood of Jesus shed on the cross is for the remission of sins. We true faith in Jesus we recieve a new life, and this new life lead to good works in christ.

The saving faith produces works but the dead produces no work.

There is a subtle difference between FAITH and BELIEF!

1. Belief is your Conviction about an Issue or person
2. Faith is a Trust leading to Dependence on a Personality

jaephoenix:
Okay. Lemme humor you
1. No.
2. No

Your response in 1 conflicts with your response in 2

jaephoenix:
1. I told you ab initio that there are many theories, didn't I? Even told you I aint sure which one is the correct one.
So what do you mean i am having fear of exposure?
I think you are the one with the fear of exposure. If you tell me the Bible creation series and point out historical, scientific and archeological backup, why wouldn't I believe you?

Simple Questions you can't answer
(the questions has nothing to do with any DEITY)!
Philosophical Questions:
1. Do you concur that SOMETHING beyond time, space, matter and physical laws initiated the expansion of the Universe?

2. Do you think such a PRIMARY initiator can be subject to the laws of nature?

jaephoenix:
1. Why are you quoting science, why don't you quote your Bible?
2. Like I said, there are many scientific theories. One of them is abiogenesis. Prolly a better one would come up tomorrow. Truth is, we aint very sure. And I cannot tell you which theory is the best.
3. So talk about your creation story, lets hear it

1. Do you believe the bible? No!
And it seems logical to you for me to present an evidence you don't even subscribe to!

I have QUOTED science for you except you are claiming for the record that you don't believe in the sciences!


2. Abiogenesis is a far recent event. Can Abiogenesis happen before the creation of atoms? No! Atoms of elements are more fundamental in creation that even simple molecules.

3. Fear of exposure!!
Simple question you are quivering!

Simple Questions you can't answer (the question has nothing to do with any DEITY)!
Philosophical Questions:
1. Do you concur that SOMETHING beyond time, space, matter and physical laws initiated the expansion of the Universe?
2. Do you think such a PRIMARY initiator can be subject to the laws of nature?

jaephoenix:
1. Do you think creation happened 13.8m years ago?

According to Science everything in the universe has its origin 13.8billion years ago. If you dispute this, let's have your arguments

jaephoenix:
2. Hey, I'm worried about the particular god that did the job. If you argue the universe was created, then provide the evidence of your god

No!
You provide your Own evidence that the Universe was NOT created!

It is two equal proposition!


Simple Questions you can't answer (the question has nothing to do with any DEITY)!
Philosophical Questions:
1. Do you concur that SOMETHING beyond time, space, matter and physical laws initiated the expansion of the Universe?
2. Do you think such a PRIMARY initiator can be subject to the laws of nature?

anonymous1759:
Cuba still suffers from USA because they allowed Russia to host a nuclear head in her territory. Any country that wants to host nuclear head for Russia close to USA like you said will suffer what Ukraine is suffering. It’s of the disadvantages living close to a world power it’s what it’s.

No sir.
There has not been any diplomatic relationship between Cuba and USA since the time of Fidel Castro!

Cuba was practising Socialism and it didn't pay their economy. They export nothing of value and they depend mainly on USSR for survival.

Do you think that the incentive for takeover of Ukraine is NOT economically and politically tempting to Russia:



1. Putin feel it was a mistake dismantling USSR and he wants it back by FORCE!
2. Cremia is of strategic importance to Russia in controlling the black sea (so they took it)
3. It was too easy to cut off Cremia from Russia via the bridge, so, the land corridor through Donbas to Cremia will solve the problem
4. The land corridor also will permanently make Ukraine dependent on Russia for ALL trades: a control mechanism if Ukraine wouldn't cooperate
5. The Resources in the land corridor is immense. From Iron Ore, to Agricultural, to largest Nuclear power plant, to Industries and salt mines are all concentrated here.

ALL Russia needed to do was to manufacture an excuse!
Everything is a RUSE!

Father0fjesus:
I'm not here to answer any questions from a simp who thinks a god who build the whole universe with his words exist.
Who are you to ask questions?
You don't have a Brain, you questions are probably silly.

Take your ignorance elsewhere

Father0fjesus:
wait for nonsense. Brainwashed fellows with no capacity to think

I repeatedly gave you questions which showed if you could think, but what did you do?
You showed that you can only repeat without independent thoughts!

Father0fjesus:
christianity still shit

Time will surely tell!
Wait for it

Theuniverse:
quote author=TenQ post=122883850].
Russia should have also create an equivalent of NATO and spread all over to Cuba, Mexico and Brazil. Unfortunately, all the countries who would have been the first to join such a union are AFRAID of Russia.
. true Putin made a mistake, Russia is does not have basic strategic thinking. they just have short reactive minds,and their enemies will use that against them always. china is far more strategic in thinking.(eg) hongkong mass protests,china did not send any military to force them,but outmaneuvered them through law and security forces. for Taiwan they've not invaded yet,why will they invade when that can just control the economy and put a military sea air blockage. for the Asian areas that don't like china, (eg) Philippines,Vietnam, etc. they haven't joined any anti china military group yet,even the ones that joins any is very careful, and the country maintains strong economic ties to china. so through money and politically china controls countries. this is exactly what russia should have done first before attacking. but its now they are seriously trying to rebalance and join china unions, it may be too late.

Imperfectly agree with you.

I hope Russia has learnt from this war. They should go back home and re-strategize. Not everything can be obtained by force.

Ukraine was once beaten by Russia in 2014 and Putin was expecting a heroic welcome from them in 2021/22 it is grossly ILLOGICAL.

I just pity all young men slaughtered everyday on both sides over what will end up on the table of discussion.

anonymous1759:
No country is a saint all the world powers are corrupt and evil choose your devil or friend wisely. What I don’t like is the hypocrisy of the west they want everyone to hate Russia and China because they’re rivals . Gullible people call for their gimmick to me their fight is healthy for the world to balance .

If not for Russia and China LGBT would’ve been pushed down our throats if you fail to comply they sanction you but right now they can’t because of Russia and China Both countries can provide you military support and economy likewise UK and US if you’re not friends with Russia and China both countries can still protect. We only need good leaders to gain from their adversaries and stay neutral to gain from both sides.

Both USA and Russia are not saints: however, we should as humans not rejoice that any community is bullied by another irrespective of who is bullying the other.

In this case, it is obvious that Russia is bullying Ukraine because they are smaller: if USA is the enemy, then let the big Russia face off with USA.

The problem is that Russia's foreign policy is terrible and extremely short-sighted.

Russia should have also create an equivalent of NATO and spread all over to Cuba, Mexico and Brazil. Unfortunately, all the countries who would have been the first to join such a union are AFRAID of Russia.

Behind every thing is this
1. Putin feel it was a mistake dismantling USSR and he wants it back by FORCE!
2. Cremia is of strategic importance to Russia in controlling the black sea (so they took it)
3. It was too easy to cut off Cremia from Russia via the bridge, so, the land corridor through Donbas to Cremia will solve the problem
4. The land corridor also will permanently make Ukraine dependent on Russia for ALL trades: a control mechanism if Ukraine wouldn't cooperate
5. The Resources in the land corridor is immense. From Iron Ore, to Agricultural, to largest Nuclear power plant, to Industries and salt mines are all concentrated here.

The incentive for takeover of Ukraine is economically and politically tempting: all Russia needed to do was to manufacture an excuse!

It is called : giving a dog a bad name so that we can drown it

samcolee:
true even if they work till death nothing comes out

The average pension in Nigeria is between N30k and N60k. For any public servant that collects a salary of N80k to N200k, its better to remain a worker!

OGHENAOGIE:
they should then work til death na.. this ur take holds no water... Meanwhile nobody is fighting for entry age to be reviewed where u see a 35 years old graduate is deemed to old to be employed as a starter to civil service or some private Jobs... Which work Dem de do self to stay that long this is how lecturers Jack up theirs from 65 to 70 for Prof and 60 to 65 for non Prof... Teachers too own has been reviewed too so I guess civil servant ll have their way na

See how you have turned this into a fight between
The Job Applicant VS The Employed Civil Servant

The Government is the enemy bro: if they had not mismanaged the economy, you think Jobs would not be available for the applicants and the employed looking forward to their retirement!?

madridguy:
The French people have been on protest, destroying properties simply because of the new propose pension reform bill which would increase the retirement age from 62 to 64 years old but here in Nigeria workers want the government to allow them to work additional 5 years before they retire.

Las las life no balance.

Because they know that their pension and gratuity is enough to take care of them till they die.
Even at 65years of age, the Nigerian civil servant is hopeless of his future.

anonymous1759:
Why is Cuba , Venezuela an co closer to Russia than USA ? Are USA not closer to them ?
USA has invaded more countries than Russia study history and Balance your news you’ll see the bigger picture I was once in your posting before . Stay blessed .

Because you think USA is evil, you think Ukraine should be destroyed!?
It doesn't resonate well with logic my dear.

Bad example. You should use Canada as an example (they share same border, share same language etc)
Before long now, you'll say USA destroyed the economy of Venezuela and Cuba.

Russia is like a bad boyfriend whose girlfriend (Ukraine) left him for another man due to neglect and he's now complaining.

Are you saying that Russia has no iota of interest in the resources of Ukraine for herself?

anonymous1759:
Norway , Sweden , Poland , Ukraine, Georgia are all USA puppets. But the western media will refer to them as allies while Belarus and other countries that are allies with Russia will be regarded as Russia’s puppet . From your analysis I can see your brainwashed with western media try to Balance your news from Eastern media that’s when you’ll see the light.
All Small counties That are allies to Russia are scared of USA it’s vice Versa .
I can’t say Amen to a senseless prayer you can’t gaslight me if I do it means you’ve won . I’ve gone past that level .

Why would ALL these countries choose rather to become puppets of USA rather than of Russia? Russia is 50 times closer to them than USA now?


FYI:
I support free independent nations and I detest any nation under any guise to invade another nation.

Why are Russia's neighbors afraid of Russia?

Father0fjesus:
Christianity still remains shit

You are sounding like a broken record!

If you repeat the phrase "I am not a man" 100000 times a day, it doesn't change your biology.

1. Do you think this makes sense that
Some of you want especially us Christians to reject our God and choose HOPELESSNESS like you?

2. What do YOU as atheists have in exchange for the Hope Christians have in their Creator?


3. Are you an Atheist or Agnostic?

Father0fjesus:
If you like reject God or not, Christianity is shit

It doesn't matter! It's just your opinion.

I am challenging you on the fundamentals:

1. Do you think this makes sense that
Some of you want especially us Christians to reject our God and choose HOPELESSNESS like you?

2. What do YOU as atheists have in exchange for the Hope Christians have in their Creator?


3. Are you an Atheist or Agnostic?




Why are you afraid to face your truth?

anonymous1759:
Useless gaslighting technique That's how you guys use it between BAT/Obi. Allow people support their choice in peace. Russia is nice to Belarus and Some countries close to them . Cuba is suffering the same terrie from United States just like what ukraine is experiencing with russia .

Russia is not evil if you work with and abide with them just Like the USA if you dance to their tone they smile with you if you reject them they terrorize you stop watching too much movies read news from both western and eastern media and strike the balance.

It is difficult saying AMEN to my prayer for you! Why?

But Belarus has a president who is Putin Puppet.

Norway, Sweden, Poland, Ukraine, Georgia are all afraid of Russia. Why!?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia

Father0fjesus:
my mean issue is that Christianity is shit.

No problemo!
It's not about being paranoid about Christianity. Leave Christianity and Christians alone for now

1. Do you think this makes sense that
Some of you want especially us Christians to reject our God and choose HOPELESSNESS like you?

2. What do YOU as atheists have in exchange for the Hope Christians have in their Creator?


3. Are you an Atheist or Agnostic?

WriterNig:
From Nuclear-Like Missiles to Nuclear Missiles. May God help us.

We're getting there gradually. There's no way mankind would escape a nuclear war this decade. Judging by 🇺🇸 NATO's actions towards 🇷🇺 Russia.

The only way Russia can end NATO's madness is to station troops, military equipments and Nukes permanently in Cuba, Nicaragua, Mexico & Venezuela. Do that and watch NATO die a natural death.

Fake title.
They hit an ammunition dump of the Ukrainians with their cruise missiles!

Draslo:
Western Media has conditioned the rest of the world to hate on Russia. When was the last time you watched a Russian movie or TV show? Im100% sure you've seen faraway Korean, Chinese, Indian and South American TV novelas. Add that to Hollywood.

Many of us know almost nothing about Russia except that they're bad guys. This was conditioned by Western Media. Russians and Arabs are the bad guys in almost every Hollywood blockbuster. In the news, they only show Russia during a national military parade or when they're doing military drills. The first COVID vaccine was created in Russia but nobody wants to give them the credit. Since the Russians beat the Americans into space, they've vowed never to let the Russians win at anything again.

They founded NATO for no other reason but because of Russia. Now that they've taken NATO to it's borders, expect anything. The pope says WW3 is already begun. If you doubt it, you're just living in a jonzing world.

Individual Russians may be good people BUT they are bad neighbours.

What if I pray this prayer for you, will you truthfully respond with a big AMEN?


May all your neighbours, business partners and associates be exactly as Russia is to her neighbours!

I wait your response.

Saga16:
Student loans are given by banks a productive economy.

No need for one to chase his own tail.

Medical students are heavily subsidised in Nigeria.

As I stated before, if you like celebrate all of them leaving.

No be person go tell you when time reach.

It is good you recognise that the same politicians who made our economy unproductive are the ones sabotaging our medical professionals.
If these same politicians have funded the universities adequately, I would have agreed partially with you.



Please stop being emotional and look at the fact on ground
1. If medical students are subsidised, by how much per student is the government paying per session.
If the government is truly subsidising medical students training, the government should have a figure.

2. Is it only medical doctors that Government is subsidising their education?
What are the other courses?

3. Did the government at any point prior to now inform medical students that their education is being subsidised?

Aemmyjah:
did Jesus go to talk to those angels WHEN he was dead or after he was resurrected, yu de reason backwards. Job wished to go to he'll so his suffering would end. Jacob too wished to do that after what happened to his son. Jonah oprayed to God from hell. . I never said that demons are in he'll. U have zero understanding of the scriptures and can never understand anything. See the mumu question he is asking me. Whether Jesus was buried or he descended into hell. Abi u wan tell us say Jesus was never buried again. Jesus went to HELL according to the scripture res but was not left there cis he was resurrected. Your second question is foolish and deserves no answer. I am ok that you understood that the spirits you mentioned were angels and not humans in a prison like place. Now, you will fool yourself to tell us angels are in he'll. It is interesting that you mentioned that 8 souls were SAVED from water. What about the other souls. Did they die

Why the tantrum?

Just answer the Questions one by one!


1. Was Jesus buried OR He descended into Hell?
Meaning that in context, Hell is NOT the grave!

2. When Jesus descended into Hell, did He set the Captives free?

3. When did Jesus preach to the spirits in prison

1Pet 3:18-20:
"For Christ also has once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached to the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water."


Did God send the offending angels into the grave according to 2Pt 2:4?
2Pet 2:4:
"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved to judgment;"


You are angry because you couldn't answer the questions as they betray your faulty doctrine.

Aemmyjah:
the soul is the life of the individual according to the context. According to you, you said it is emotional whatever. I say again, the soul can DIE A

If the soul is the life of the individual, Then a human being can kill the soul according to you.

I didn't say the soul is "emotional whatever" quote me properly

If humans can kill the soul, this is contrary to what Jesus said.

Saga16:
The man is speaking facts.

Yes in a country where these same politicians say N30,000 is too much as minimum wage for their parents.

A country where you can't get student loan if you want.

Please, how much do the FG pay their workers in dollars? Do you have an idea?

Aemmyjah:
... What does humans kill. Body or soul. Keep fooling yourself. Did Jesus say that humans can kill the soul beyond resurrection. Can you tell us why the Bible mentions dead souls and describes animals as souls

So, what is the Soul?

At least Jesus made a distinction: that is why you cannot answer the question truthfully. It hangs your throat!

Aemmyjah:
Then why ask mumu question about humans KILLING the soul. Note that soul is killed, not tormented. Bad Bible student

JW believe that humans can kill the soul (by their definition of Soul)

Are you a JW?

Aemmyjah:
. Even Jesus went to he'll according to the scriptures. Remain blind and bury your head in the sand. If you want to go to he'll, fare well. God has not forgotten his faithful servants till now and you say it's a lie. Ok na

That is why the only thing that betray your wrong doctrines is Questions. When you answer my questions even to yourself, you'd become free

Exactly!
1. Was Jesus buried OR He descended into Hell?
Meaning that in context, Hell is NOT the grave!

2. When Jesus descended into Hell, did He set the Captives free?

3. When did Jesus preach to the spirits in prison

1Pet 3:18-20:
"For Christ also has once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached to the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water."


Did God send the offending angels into the grave according to 2Pt 2:4?
2Pet 2:4:
"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved to judgment;"

jaephoenix:
Let me be very honest here.
I am not 100% sure about the scientific theories out there. Many of them make sense like abiogenesis. Some don't. Evolution is 100% correct and easily backed by science and logic.
Creationism has its issues. Example, there many gods laying claim to it but none providing evidence whatsoever apart from 'My favorite book says so'. And the said favorite book isn't even historically correct

Please be serious for once.
Abiogenesis is a joke with respect to creation: why? Abiogenesis came billions of years after the initiation of Creation about 13.8 billion years ago.

To talk creation, you have to go to time t=zero.

Unfortunately, at time t=zero ALL the physical laws are inexistent, time , space and matter doesn't even exist.

Don't worry for now if Athe worshippers of Allah and Yahweh claim that their own God created the Universe: the key is , WAS THE UNIVERSE CREATED or had it always existed!


Philosophical Questions:
1. Do you concur that SOMETHING beyond time, space, matter and physical laws initiated the expansion of the Universe?
2. Do you think such a PRIMARY initiator can be subject to the laws of nature?

LegalWolf:
Dear nemesis and spanker TenQ

Happy workers day! 🤨

Regards

Happy workers day LegalWolf

TenQ:
I wish you can be a man and talk to me directly, not like a coward scared of a spider on his doorstep.

I asked a question to which YOU don't have any intelligent response : and here your excuse is that you can't answer because I want you to be chasing me!

What if my response to you was exactly the same? Is that not hypocrisy!?

Aemmyjah:
I believe that the soul does not die but you are quoting where Jesus said it cn be KILLED. If that is not Hypocrisy, is it not deliberate ignorance you are showing

Except I am misunderstanding you. All your arguments seem to point to the teachings of JW. Their a few primary thrusts with respect to this topic is
1. The soul is a person (partially correct but not correct in context)
2. Hell is the grave
3. The dead are in Unconscious non existent state
4. At resurection, God will restore the memory of the dead back to their bodies


I believe that in context, the Soul is the Immaterial Us and interface to the Physical and Spiritual Environments. In simple terms, man is a Trinity of
1. His Body:
By which he relates with his physical environment. This is his Physical Identity
2. His Spirit:
By which he relates with his spiritual Environment . This is his Spiritual Identity
3. His Soul:
By which he relates to both his Body and Spirit Intellectually, Emotionally and Logically . The Soul is what an individual knows as His Unique Personal IDENTITY which he calls as "I", "ME" or "MYSELF"!

The old testament does not distinguish between the Soul and Spirit of Man and thus use it interchangeably!

1Ths 5:23:
"And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."