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tonytony208:
There is difference between intelligence and mental crookedness.

Tinubu is a crook, not intelligent .

If he's intelligent, he would have known that he would pay for every evil he perpetrates in this world and beyond.

Tinubu may not be the best Nigerian to be President. You may hate or dislike him, however, one should not discountenance his strong areas.

As a politician, he's been audacious, brilliant and calculative

EriMma1:
I know but the date these ladies went for is clearly not any of what you stated here and it was based on that I made my submission.

Okay!

I always look at dating from the Christian point of view

KwuoteYourFada:
He is so intelligent he couldn't win his ward , local government and State.

Very smart

Give it to him. Even APC chieftains blocked him at first. This resulted into the EMILOKAN episode. How he won the primary against all odds was brilliant politically

LegalWolf:
Hi Nairalanders,

My question is a very simple one - why is tinubu HATED so much by Obidients? I am genuinely curious owing to what I've been reading on the platform and other social media. They make it appear that the country is doomed the moment Tinubu becomes president?

Is there something Obidient's know that the rest of us do not?

PS: No insults please. Just facts

Tinubu is not hated, APC as a party and what they represent is.

Tinubu just happens to be the face of APC.

In addition,
1. He represents the same set of old men who wrecked the nation to this stage

2. His health didn't help matters

3. His link with a drug related crime didn't help

4. Him being a godfather with Lagos under his armpits didn't help

5. The clamour for CHANGE doesn't work in his favour.


But give it to Tinubu
1. He's probably the most intelligent politician Nigeria has ever produced
2. He seem to know how to recognise talents when he sees one.
3. He is very strong willed and a most probable nemesis to those who brought him to power (if he isn't killed by them)

AntiChristian:
Are these Bible Gaffes you are called to debunk?

I know they read your foreign Jargons any longer!
NO MORE COPY AND PASTE!

Let me give you another set of copy-paste for you to respond to.

We are waiting,,!



Samples of Quranic Contradictions, Inconsistencies and Errors

Special Note: Quranic ayats are taken mostly from translated Quran by Maulana A. Yousuf Ali and Maulana Muhiuddin Khan. 

 

Numerical contradictions 

There are many numerical contradictions in the Quran. Can God make so much error in doing simple calculations?

How many days did it take to create Heavens and Earth ?

Quran 7: 54 Your gurdian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran 10: 3 Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran 11:7 He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran-25:29: He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is between, in Six Days

The above verses clearly state that God created the heaven and Allah created the heaven and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below stated-

Quran 41: 9 Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?

Quran 41: 10 He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS…

Quran 41: 12 So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and …

Now do the math: 2(for earth) + 4(for nourishment) + 2 (for heavens) = 8 days; and not 6 days

Similar mistakes you can see in the verse: Quran 4: 11 - 12, and Quran 4: 176 in inheritance law. In these verses one can see the total property after adding all distributed parties adds up more than the available property, i.e., totals become more than 1 which are: 1.125 and 1.25. How come ? A gross mathematical errors, is not it ?

Allah’s Days Equal to 1000 Years or 50,000 Years?

Quran 22: 47 A day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning. Quran-32:5: To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousands years of your rekoning

Quran 70: 4 The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is Fifty thousands years.

So, which one is it? Is the day of Allah equal to 1,000 earth years or 50,000 earth years?

 

Creation of the Heaven and Earth

Which one was created first? As you will see in the verses below, Allah at one time says that Earth was created first and another time he says that the Heaven was created first.

Quran 2: 29  It is He who hath created for you all things that are on Earth; THEN He turned to the Heaven and made them into seven firmaments (Skies)….

Quran 79: 27 - 30  Are you the harder to create, or is the heaven that He built? He raised the height thereof and ordered it; and He has made dark the night thereof, and He brought forth the morning thereof. And after that, He spread (flattened) the earth

Now, does it match modern science? Do you believe that, Earth was created first, after that, God created Heaven? Modern science tells us that? Or How come SEVEN firmaments (layers)? Modern science tells us that, actually there is no such thing Sky is no “roof” over us. It is only a space with no known boundary at all. These verses simply reinforce the ancient idea of ROOF over us which is called SKY, is it not so? How funny!

 

Sun-set and Sun-rise

Koran teaches us that the Sun sets in a muddy spring:

 Quran 18: 86 Till, when he (the traveller Zul-qarnain) reached the setting-place of the Sun, he found it going down into a muddy spring…

 Quran 18: 90 Till, when he reached the rising-place of the Sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter from it.

Serious scientific errors here! Firstly, it is scientifically accepted fact that, the Sun never go down in a muddy spring. Secondly, this seems to presuppose a FLAT Earth, otherwise how can there be an extreme point in the West or in the East? A sunrise there would be basically just the same as at any other place on this earth, at land or sea. It would still look as if it is setting “far away”. It does say, that he reached THE PLACE where the Sun sets and in his second Journey the place where it rises.

 

A resting place for Sun!?

Quran 36: 38 And the sun runneth on unto a resting place for him. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise.
Quran 36: 39 And for the moon We have appointed mansions till she return like an old shrivelled palm leaf.
Quran 36: 40  It is not for Sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.

Allah is indeed a big scientist. Where is sun and where is moon situated? Can anybody tell me how they could collide/meet/overtake each other? Are the sun and the moon neighbors to each other? I have the answer for this error: Ancient Allah saw (bare eye observations) sun and moon traveling from east to west seemingly in the same Sky area or same path, without colliding, causing day and night etc. Allah hardly could imagine that all these phenomena are simply due to Earth’s rotation and NOT by Sun’s rotation. Sun is stationary for Earth, because earth is stuck in the sun’s Gravity, like we are stuck in earth’s gravity. Allah never says any where in the whole Quran that, EARTH ROTATES. Perhaps Allah could not feel earth’s rotation.

A resting place for sun WAS CONFIRMED BY HADITHS?

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 421
Sahih Bukhari Hadiths: Abzur Ghifari (ra) narrated: one day Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) asked me, “Abzar do you know after setting where does Sun go?” I replied, I do not know, only Allah’s apostle can say better. Then Prophet (SA) replied, “After setting, the sun remains prostrated under Allah’s Aro’sh and waits for Allah’s command for rising again in the East. Day will come when sun will not get permission to rise again and Qeyamot will fall upon Earth”.

Can anybody tell me what is it? It was the superstitious belief of ancient people reflected in the Quran and Hadiths by Allah. A 10-year-old boy would not tell such fairy tale story today.

 

Why Allah Created Stars!

Quran gives us further scientific knowledge by telling us that the stars were created by Allah as missiles to throw at the devils:

Quran 67: 5 And We have (from of old) adorned the lowest heaven (sky) with lamps, and We have made such (Lamps as) missiles to drive away Satans…

Quran 37: 6-8  We have indeed decorated the lower heaven (sky) with beauty (in) the stars, (for beauty) and for guard against all obstinate rebellious Satans. So they should not strain their ears in the direction of the Exalted Assembly but be cast away from every side.

Thus, the stars are nothing but missiles to throw at devils so that they may not eavesdrop on the heavenly council. Once again we find how Allah was high on his superstitious weirdness.

 

Is Sky/Heaven A ROOF or Canopy Over the Earth?

Quran 21: 32 And We have made the sky a roof withheld (from them). Yet they turn away from its portents.

Quran 31: 10 He hath created the heavens (Skies) without supports (pillars) that ye can see, and hath cast into the earth firm Mountains/Hills, so that it quake not with you; and He hath dispersed…

Quran 2: 22: Who has made the earth your couch, And the heavens (Sky) your canopy

Modern science tells us- whole thing around the earth is space and there is no boundary even if we go Billions of light years away in all directions. Questions are: When there is no sky above us then how in the world, it needs pillars for support? Do we really have a roof above us? Is there a canopy above the Earth? Is there anything called above or beneath us? Are mountains there to prevent Earth from shaking? Give me a break!

Once again Allah considered sky as roof over the Earth, which will broke/shattered during dooms day

Quran 78: 19 And the heavens (sky) Shall be broken (opened) as if there were doors opens…

Quran 82: 1 When the Sky is cleft asunder

Quran 69: 16 And the sky will be Rent asunder, for it will That day be flimsy (soft)

Quran 81: 2 When the stars fall, losing their luster.

Yousuf Ali comments in his Tafsir: beautiful blue-sky overhead (which we take for granted in sunshine) will be shattered to pieces. Modern science tells us that there is no such thing as roof/sky or any canopy over the Earth; rather all around Earth is a limitless space. Only Allah knows what will break/shatter or will get soft/flimsy or how doors will open , there is no walls, where from doors will come? In some Ayats Allah threatened kafirs by saying: “I (Allah) will throw broken pieces of sky over your head.”

 

Does Sun Rotate Around the Earth?

Quran 31: 29 Seest thou not that Allah merges Night into Day and He merges Day into Night; That He has subjected the sun and moon (to His law), each running its course for a term (time) appointed.

Quran 21: 33 It is He who created The Night and Day, And the Sun and Moon; each of them Swim (float) along in its own course.

Ayats mentioned above could be found over and over again and again almost in every pages of Quran. Because, Allah standing in the open Arab desert saw very well that, every morning SUN is rising from the East and gradually (appointed time or fixed time) setting to the West, and as a result, day and night follows. Allah truly mentioned this wrong knowledge (sun moving) of pre-historic people. Every time Allah mentioned Sun & Moon, He mentioned day & night, as if it is due to sun’s movement day and night follows. But surprisingly, all the hypocrite Mullahs giving false credit to Allah by saying: look Quran told about sun’s movement 1400 years ago which modern science only found out now. In real world, sun takes 225 millions of years to make just one complete circle through the solar Universe. And obviously this movement of sun has nothing to do with DAY & NIGHT of the earth. Actually, Sun is stationary in relation to the Earth, because the Earth is stuck to the giant gravitation force of the Sun, and the Earth also moves along with the Sun wherever it goes, just the way we are stuck to the Earth’s gravitation force and do not feel its movement at all.

Why then, Allah was telling the Sun’s movement again and again. I have already mentioned above, why Allah was hysteric about the Sun’s movements. Now dishonest Mullahs are claiming science here. I wonder, why Allah has to mentioned about the Sun’s 225 millions year journey (which is even unimaginable to mankind) to tell about day and night? What relation Sun’s movement has with the day and night?

 

Does Earth Spread Out Like Carpet (flat)?

Quran 15: 19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon Mountains firm and immovable;

Quran 78: 6-7 Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse, And the mountains as pegs (anchor)?

Allah was sure that earth is flat like a carpet and mountains are there to anchor the earth so that earth does not shake with us. Allah is really merciful scientist.

 

Is Man Created From Clotted Blood?

Quran-23:14: Then fashioned We the drop (semen) a CLOT OF CONGEALED BLOOD then fashioned We the Clot a little lump (foetus), fashioned We the little lump into bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced it another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators. ( Bengali translated Quran said: “Zamaa’t Raokto theeke Manoosh banieesi” And this Ayat has been repeated again and again throughout the Quran ) Quran-75:38: Then he becomes a CLOT; then (Allah) shaped and fashioned…

Quran 96: 2 Created man, out of a mere clot of congealed blood

There are serious scientific problems here:

Blood clot cannot grow into anything. This idea also came from the Greek. Aristotle erroneously believed that, humans are originated from the action of male semen upon female menstrual blood, which is absolutely an incorrect assumption. Quran’s assertion on Clot (alaqa) is completely wrong about human development, since there is absolutely no stage during which the embryo consists of a clot. The only situation in which an embryo might appear like a clot is during a miscarriage, in which case the clotted blood that is seen to emerge (much of which comes from mother) is solidified and by definition no longer alive. Therefore, if ever an embryo appeared to look like a clot it would never develop any further into a human; it would be a dead mass of bloody miscarrying flesh. Since Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) had some thirteen wives it is entirely possible that he would be very familiar with miscarriages.

Modern science tells us that, the formation of human embryo is a seamless continuation from conception to birth; hence there are no hard- and- fast boundaries of stages as Quran describes. Quran describes 4 stages, which matches exactly with Galenic description of development of human embryo (which was proved wrong by modern science).

Creation of bones and clothing of bones with flesh: According to modern embryologists including Prof. Moore, the tissue from which bone originates, known as mesoderm, is the same tissue as that from which muscle (flesh) develops. Thus bone and muscles begin to develop simultaneously, rather than sequentially (as the Quran is telling us). Moreover, most of the muscle tissue that we humans have is laid down before birth, but bones continue to develop and calcify (strengthen with calcium) right into one’s teenage years. So it would be more accurate if the Quran had said that muscles started to develop at the same time as bones, but completed their development earlier. The idea that bones are clothed with flesh is not only scientifically completely wrong/false, but was directly copied from the ancient Greek doctor Galen’s hypothesis.

Also, the idea of saying: “made into bones and clothed the bones with muscle” came from the technique of making animal statue out of rod and cement or mud. People usually make the skeleton (out of rod or stick) first and, then cover it up with cement or mud. This is scarcely a scientific description of embryonic development. It is rather a description of an unlettered man.

 

Is Religion Compulsive Or Is It Not?

Quran 02: 256 There is no Compulsion in religion….

OR

Quran 9: 29 Fight those who do not profess the true faith(Islam) till they pay the polltax (jiziya) with the hand of humility.

Quran 9: 5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolators wherever ye find them and take them captive, and besiege them and prepare for them each ambush….

Quran 47: 4 When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads….

Quran 2: 191 And slay (kill) them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out such is the reward of those who suppress faith.

Quran 8: 65 O Apostle ! rouse the believers to the fight of….unbelievers.

Very often apologetics claim that, Islam is a religion of peace and there is no compulsion. Yet punishment of an apostate in Islam is, of course, death penalty.

In very many Ayats Allah claimed that, He has given this Quran in the easy and clear language so that, it will not be difficult to understand by the ordinary Arabs.

Quran 44: 58 Verily, We have made This Quran easy in the tongue, in order that they may give heed.

No matter which translated Quran we read, the Quranic materials remain the same to us and every sentence is self explanatory and it does not take a rocket scientist to comprehend what is the message Allah wanted to transmit for Arabs. Yet, bigot Mullahs will always blame translators for Quranic contradictions/errors/inconsistencies etc. and will try to find lame excuses to cover up Allah’s ignorance.

Comments:

The Holy Qur’an is full of inaccuracies, contradictions, inconsistencies, redundancies, no chronology or chapters, grammatical errors, etc. One can find hundreds of contradictions/errors/inconsistencies in the Holy Quran. The above-mentioned Ayats are just selected samples from the Quran. But still it is a miracle to those who are blindfolded bigots.

AntiChristian:
Do you need to have anything in common before your holly spirit helps you?

You are a dunce!
Confirmed!

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AntiChristian:
Shatap! Your holly(wood) spirit has lost subscription here!

Nowhere to copy and paste!
No foreign "Shamunn" wannabe to plagiarized!

Wind don blow hen cloaka don dey exposed!

Let me give you some copy-paste for you to respond to.


 

Contradictions in the Qur’an

by Matt Slick | Dec 12, 2008 | Islam, World Religions

The Qur’an states that it is a perfect book preserved on tablets in heaven (Surah 85:21-22).  If the Qur’an is a perfect book from Allah, then there shouldn’t be any contradictions in it.  Of course, the Muslims will deny that any contradictions exist in the Qur’an, but they do.  Some of the contradictions below could be debated, but some of them are clearly contradictions.

A contradiction occurs when one statement on a subject excludes the possibility of another. 

The first one here is a good example.  In Surah 19:67, it states that man was created out of nothing.  In 15:26, man is created from clay.  Since clay is something, we have a contradiction since “nothing” excludes the possibility of “clay.”  Both cannot be true.

All quotes from the Qur’an, unless otherwise specified, are from Yusuf Ali and can be found at the Qur’an online.

What was man created from: blood, clay, dust, or nothing?

“Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood,” (96:2).

“We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape, (15:26).

“The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: “Be”. And he was,” (3:59).

“But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing?” (19:67, Yusuf Ali). Also, 52:35).

“He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).

Is there or is there not compulsion in religion according to the Qur’an?

“Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things,” (2:256).

“And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage, – that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith,” (9:3).

“But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful,” (9:5).

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued,” (9:29).

The first Muslim was Muhammad? Abraham? Jacob? Moses?

“And I [Muhammad] am commanded to be the first of those who bow to Allah in Islam,” (39:12).

“When Moses came to the place appointed by Us, and his Lord addressed him, He said: “O my Lord! show (Thyself) to me, that I may look upon thee.” Allah said: “By no means canst thou see Me (direct); But look upon the mount; if it abide in its place, then shalt thou see Me.” When his Lord manifested His glory on the Mount, He made it as dust. And Moses fell down in a swoon. When he recovered his senses he said: “Glory be to Thee! to Thee I turn in repentance, and I am the first to believe.” (7:143).

“And this was the legacy that Abraham left to his sons, and so did Jacob; “Oh my sons! Allah hath chosen the Faith for you; then die not except in the Faith of Islam,” (2:132).

Does Allah forgive or not forgive those who worship false gods?

Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed,” (4:48).  Also 4:116

The people of the Book ask thee to cause a book to descend to them from heaven: Indeed they asked Moses for an even greater (miracle), for they said: “Show us Allah in public,” but they were dazed for their presumption, with thunder and lightning. Yet they worshipped the calf even after clear signs had come to them; even so we forgave them; and gave Moses manifest proofs of authority,” (4:153).

Are Allah’s decrees changed or not?

“Rejected were the messengers before thee: with patience and constancy they bore their rejection and their wrongs until Our aid did reach them: there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of Allah. Already hast thou received some account of those messengers,” (6:34).

“The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfillment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all, (6:115).

None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?” (2:106).

When We substitute one revelation for another,- and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages),- they say, “Thou art but a forger”: but most of them understand not,” (16:101).

Was Pharaoh killed or not killed by drowning?

“We took the Children of Israel across the sea: Pharaoh and his hosts followed them in insolence and spite. At length, when overwhelmed with the flood, he said: “I believe that there is no god except Him Whom the Children of Israel believe in: I am of those who submit (to Allah in Islam). (It was said to him): “Ah now!- But a little while before, wast thou in rebellion!- and thou didst mischief (and violence)!  This day shall We save thee in the body, that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee! but verily, many among mankind are heedless of Our Signs!” (10:90-92).

Moses said, “Thou knowest well that these things have been sent down by none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth as eye-opening evidence: and I consider thee indeed, O Pharaoh, to be one doomed to destruction!”  So he resolved to remove them from the face of the earth: but We did drown him and all who were with him,” (17:102-103).

Is wine consumption good or bad?

O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination,–of Satan’s handwork: eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper,” (5:90).

(Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell forever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)?” (47:15).

Truly the Righteous will be in Bliss: On Thrones (of Dignity) will they command a sight (of all things): Thou wilt recognize in their faces the beaming brightness of Bliss. Their thirst will be slaked with Pure Wine sealed,” (83:22-25).




I Still have more !

LOL!

FxMasterz:
Atheists are not worth wasting time on. They ask very foolish questions and are always trying to dribble you. They're never sincere and never straight forward.

They always engage in arguments for the sole purpose of proving some false intelligence. No more no less. They're not interested in truth.
Meanwhile, we don't consider them intelligence enough. So, it's always wise to let them be because foolish questions are always very annoying. I'm going to pick several verses that are out of context for you tomorrow. And that's all I'll do
You're not a truth seeker so I'm not interested in wasting my time with you.

You can debate Atheists on Philosophy or Logic or Science BUT it is a waste of Everything to debate Scriptures or Religion with them.

Don't give your pearls to the Pig!

jaephoenix:
You have no business with atheists but you're forever taunting, opening and getting into the faces of Muslims. Isn't that funny? The few times I have engaged you, you dodged. Be a man, grow a ball and engage atheists, you'll regret your life

Trolling !
Baiting!!

It doesn't work. Change your tactics!

You could please post evidence of me dodging you as I can't even remember your face.

jaephoenix:
Talk about the uneducated Assembly of 'gaffles' here lets know

LOL!

jaephoenix:
Exactly. Keep running away from atheists. We'll get you

LOL!

I'm scared!

jaephoenix:
Right. Antichristian himself can decide not to argue Islamic spiritual stuff with Christians like you and ignore you
Its simple. Your deflection tactics are base

Weak argument as usual of your type.

Half of the prophets of God in my religion is in his.

Bro, we don't have anything in common as per religion , do we?

jaephoenix:
Can you get off Allah's case for once? Even on a thread where christianity is on trial, you still denigrate Allah, instead of defending christianity

I don't defend Christianity with Atheists.
We are millenniums apart.

jaephoenix:
Dont mind those guys, especially TenQ. When atheists grill him, he'll be running away. He avoids these kinds of topics cos he'll get seriously drilled

I am glad that Atheists like you and AntiChristian have a common objective derived from the same master: I'm not surprised at all!



FYI
I don't discuss spiritual things with Atheists. The best of you is a mere waste of time: very shallow even in Your confused philosophy!

LegalWolf:
Hey potential thief TenQ

How’s the ministry? And evangelism? I just want to check up on you and ask about the cleansing sweet bloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood of Jesus. LOL 😂

If God doesn't Redeem us, the best of us will destroy paradise with our filth.

I appreciate God for my redemption from the power and consequence of sin. There was no way I could pay my debt.

A Life for my life
A Sacrifice of Atonement for my Sonship
An infinite cost receipted by the pure Blood


LegalWolf, I invite you to the Messiah!
Why do you think He came?
He came to set you FREE!

John 1:12-13:
"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."

AntiChristian:
No be Muslim thread be this na! What a shambolic Holly spirit disappointment!

I was thinking you guys would have all the answers to the biblical questions here! That's why I tagged all your monickers i can remember!

AntiChristian:
Go to the first page and start!

Are you claiming that Atheists and Muslims are one and the same?

Christians need not tell lies to cover up anything in the Bible and we stand by everything written therein. Unfortunately, the OP has an uneducated assembly of gaffles but claiming gaffles.

Again, Christians don't tell lies to cover up the bible.

Allah dictated the Qur'an isn't it: then he must be perfect without errors. However, when Allah says women have sperms coming from their chest one and men have sperms from their backbone, we wonder if the author of the Qur'an was God.

If Allah can claim that the Sun sets in murky waters, we wonder if he can be God!

If Allah can tell the story of Solomon Dieing for almost a year while standing with his walking stick, we think this is silly!

Have you heard of the legend of the Seven Sleepers? How come Allah copied a known fable and put it in the Qur'an without acknowledging the monk who wrote the original story?

Are these untrue statement about your Qur'an?

I have no business with Atheists: I can deal with them when I have their time.

Over to you!

LordReed:
Quote the post where I made that choice. Your malfunctioning brain is making you see things.

I gave you TWO choices, you rejected the second. Automatically, you are left with only the first choice.

Did I give you more than two choices?

LordReed:
Bwahahahahaha! These are the stories you use to scare yourself into submission. LMFAO!

Stories!?
I didn't tell you any story!

MightySparrow:
Sexlam is a lie from the beginning, spread by lies ( taqiyya) and sustained by more lies.
The only truth in Sexlam is bum, boobs, and booze.

You can imagine how many of them that have starved themselves during Ramadan that have taken up their alcohol and womanizing again.

Sexlam is a lie at its purest form.

Ramadan doesn't prevent Muslims from fighting in public.
Fornication and Adultery is only suspended for 30days

The too many lies they've told to Augment Allah and Mohammed is what is haunting them right now

FxMasterz:
I'm still on the lookout for your thread about how Allah refered to himself as 'One of...' Please do not delay. Souls must be saved at all costs. No one needs to go to hell. Antichristian has already decided that he would not listen to truth. His ears are blocked. He loves lies. Let him continue.

Please add the topic about the legend of the Seven Sleepers imported into the Quran to your list of future threads

God bless you for all you do. You wouldn't know how many Muslims God has been using you and advocatejare to deliver from the grip of deceit. Heaven shall reward you abundantly for opening the eyes of these people to the deception of Satan aka Allah.

In trying to use lies to propagate Islam, Muslims from Mohammed commited so much errors. Qur'an, Hadiths, Tafsirs and their books of history are all the same.

Don't worry, one at a time the writeup will come out.
It takes time to write even one article about Islam because it is best to show them evidences from their trusted sources.

LordReed:
You are the one suggesting death, maybe your brain is dead, needs resuscitation and this is your cry for help.

Let me describe your experience without telling you when or the circumstance leading to your death.

From wherever you laid
You decided to stand up
And you did
Only that this time was different
You've been Cloned

You are fully Alive and well,
but your body is lifeless where it laid
This shouldn't be, but yes it is
It should be imaginary, but it is very real

Someone unsmiling he came to lead you to the entrance of the dark tunnel
Alone, you fall, into the tunnel of despair
Your mind is clear and sharp as a razor

You remember, what a fool you've been
You've been tricked and here you are
The Howlers have gained one more person
You'll not be lonely, but you'll be alone

A rejected product you know you are
Fit only for the refuse dump
You made your choice
Now, you live with its consequence!


Please manage this as you sleep tonight!

LordReed:
You are the one suggesting death, maybe your brain is dead, needs resuscitation and this is your cry for help.

You asked a question,
Death was one of the two options
You chose death

How is that my problem!

Please, wait for your time: it won't be long!

PART TWO:
Unfortunately, it seems after Mohammed released this verse, ALL women started coming to give themselves to Mohammed for sex. It would have been okay if all these women are young and beautiful BUT it seems amongst these women throwing themselves at Mohammed for sex are
1. Old Women
2. Ugly Women
3. Fat Women
4. Dirty Women
5. Flat chested women etc

It was too much and Mohammed was overwhelmed with undesirable women in addition to his SPECIFICATION. Therefore, the Almighty Al-Lah revealed verse 51.

Verse 51 gives Mohammed the RIGHT to DEFER or POSTPONE sex with the UNDESIRABLE women sometimes INDEFINITELY.

Qur'an 33:51
Thou mayest defer (the turn of) any of them that thou pleasest, and thou mayest receive any thou pleasest: and there is no blame on thee if thou invite one whose (turn) thou hadst set aside. This were nigher to the cooling of their eyes, the prevention of their grief, and their satisfaction - that of all of them - with that which thou hast to give them: and Allah knows (all) that is in your hearts: and Allah is All-Knowing, Most Forbearing.



Allah wrote in summary that Mohammed should feel free to do with the women as he pleases and that he shouldn't feel bad if he turns down any woman. Even if he turns down any woman and he later desires her, Allah says it not a problem.

At a point, one of the favourite wives of Mohammed had to say

“I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires.”


EVIDENCE:

Sahih al-Bukhari 4788
Narrated Aisha:
I used to look down upon those ladies who had given themselves to Allah's Messenger(ﷺ) and I used to say, "Can a lady give herself (to a man)?" But when Allah revealed: "You (O Muhammad) can postpone (the turn of) whom you will of them (your wives), and you may receive any of them whom you will; and there is no blame on you if you invite one whose turn you have set aside (temporarily).' (33.51) I said (to the Prophet), "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires."

You will see that the context of Qur'an 33:50-51 is NOT marriage but just sex.

PART ONE:

Did Allah make Adultery Lawful for Mohammed?

There are so many verses of the Qur'an that Muslim scholars deliberately mistranslate to hide Uncomfortable truths about Mohammed.
Thus, whenever one is not sure, one should consult an Interlinear Translation. Even this is not safe from adulteration from zealous Islamic scholars and apologists. It is NOT safe to trust ANY English translation of the Qur'an because of this obvious attempts of COVER-UPS!

In the verse of today, we see HOW the Almighty Allah gave permission to Mohammed to have sex with ANY woman in his domain.

Qur'an 33:50
O prophet, we indeed have made lawful (for sex) for you
*your Wives whom you have paid their dowry
*And your Slaves whom you rightfully possess from among who Allah has given you
*The Daughters of your Paternal Uncles
*And The Daughters of your Paternal Aunts
*And the Daughters of your Maternal Uncles
*And the Daughters of your Maternal Aunts who emigrated with you
*And Any Believing Woman who gives herself willingly to the prophet for SEX
* This is a privilege for you only, not for the (rest of) believers - We are Aware of that which We enjoined upon them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess (their slaves) - that you may be free from blame, for Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.


Muslims usually want to argue that all this is about women who are lawful for Marriage to Mohammed, unfortunately, this is a massive FALSEHOOD!
1. If the verse is about women eligible for marriage, them Mohammed's wives would not have been included in the verse for Mohammed's wives are lawful for him for sex. Can Mohammed marry his already Married 16 wives again?

2. The last verse also reiterates that for other Muslims, Allah has instructed them about who is lawful for sex, that is their Wives AND their Slaves (whom their right hand possesses)

3. The word يَسْتَنكِحَهَا translated as MARRY HER (even in their Interlinear Translation) is WRONG. The real word is actually very raw: It means "he fu.cks her"[sub][/sub] f (he has SEX with her)


Knowing this, you have every reason to DOUBT the diluted translations Muslim scholars throw at us. Lying is in their blood.

The INTERLINEAR Translation is attached as evidence.
The Google Translate of the word يَسْتَنكِحَهَا is also attached as evidence.


Questions:
1. Can any Muslim tell us what this verse has to do with Islam and salvation that the Almighty Allah saw it fit to be put on the eternal tablet of the Qur'an?
2. Is it true from this scripture that any married woman can Lawfully have sex with prophet Mohammed? What would be their gain- is it automatic Paradise!?
3. As a married man, how elated will it be if your wife goes out to have sex with Prophet Mohammed? What blessings accrue to you for renting out your wife to the prophet?

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Na only Muslim dey your skull?

Christians need not tell lies to cover up anything in the Bible and we stand by everything written therein. Unfortunately, the OP has an uneducated assembly of gaffles but claiming gaffles.

Again, Christians don't tell lies to cover up the bible.

Allah dictated the Qur'an isn't it: then he must be perfect without errors. However, when Allah says women have sperms coming from their chest one and men have sperms from their backbone, we wonder if the author of the Qur'an was God.

If Allah can claim that the Sun sets in murky waters, we wonder if he can be God!

If Allah can tell the story of Solomon Dieing for almost a year while standing with his walking stick, we think this is silly!

Have you heard of the legend of the Seven Sleepers? How come Allah copied a known fable and put it in the Qur'an without acknowledging the monk who wrote the original story?

Are these untrue statement about your Qur'an?

I have no business with Atheists: I can deal with them when I have their time.

Over to you!

Lukuluku69:
Open your Bible and check the reference

No be you just quote from the same Bible just now?

Get a Red Lettered Bible for you to doubly sure that was from Jesus.

Muslims are highly predictable. They wont even read to confirm before doing copy-paste of their Dawa site.

Luk 19:11-13,27:
"And, because they were hearing these things, he added and spake a parable, because of his being near Jerusalem, and their supposing that, instantly, was the kingdom of God to shine forth. He said, therefore A certain man, of noble birth, went into a country far away, to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return. And, calling ten servants of his own, he gave unto them ten minas, and said unto them Do business, till I come. … But, these mine enemies who desired not that I should be made king over them, bring ye here, and slay them outright before me."


Have you now seen who was speaking?

Ordinary English language comprehension should have helped you out of this qurgmire!

LordReed:
If the dead know nothing how does that help me know anything? Maybe your brain needs resuscitation.

Are you afraid to die?

You shouldn't, afterall, the dead know NOTHING!

LOL!


I've just told you that you needn't be afraid to die as you'll know NOTHING!
The NOTHING will lead you straight to your answer!
LOL!

LordReed:
LoLz. The dead know nothing and in this matter apparently so do you.

Are you afraid to die?

You shouldn't, afterall, the dead know NOTHING!

LOL!

LordReed:
Having a relationship with an idea? LoLz.

That's your claim!

You choose death, so be it: you'll still get to know QED!

jfkenny:
Good morning naira Landers.let me make this very brief. I work in one of the states in Nigeria as a civil servant.

I got the job immediately after my graduate studies with my NCE certificate since degree certificates are not usually issued immediately after studies.

When I went for conversion(from NCE TO DEGREE), I was told that the day I was issued the degree cert post-dates my appointment letter thus I can't make use of the degree certificate.

Meanwhile , I completed my graduate studies in June 2013 and cert was issued in March 2014.

Appointment letter was issued on dec. 2013

What's your experience, and is there anyway this can be solved..

Apply formally to submit your document showing with evidence that you had concluded your studies before your employment.

The only crime you can be accused of Violating is going on study-leave without permission which is not applicable in your case

LordReed:
You aren't dead so how do you know?

'Cause I chose the second option you rejected!

Please, you've chosen your options, it's inevitable.

advocatejare:
Lukuluku69 will know agree with you, Taqiyya has taken over him!

Islam is A religion of Deceit and Deception that causes gross spiritual blindness so that even with their eyes wide open, they cannot see!

Even when given good food, they'll clench their mouths lest they be fed!

Even when the keys of their handcuffs is given to them, they despise it!

When their prison doors are broken for them, they choose to remain prisoners!

God is merciful, we shall do what is humanly possible and leave the results to Him for their salvation while we pray for Grace.