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Dailyparrot:
I have to create this thread after reading through the topic on front page asking for jobs/professions that will make you not to marry someone.

So, I'm talking to this Unizik student that's studying medical radiography. Everything was going well. She even told me that she has told her mother about me and all. We met on Facebook and she's already asking to see me in person.

Until the day she found out that I use my car for Uber/Bolt business, everything changed. This girl stopped talking to me.

She has never been to Lagos and does not know how Uber works. She was asking how much I earn in a day, and that hope the Uber is not like their normal school cab that charge 100 naira per person, bla bla bla.

Well, I just don't want to let her know my net worth. I don't do Uber full time. I work on Fiverr and because sales dropped there, I decided to use Uber to make up for the income. I also do academic research for foreign students. Etc. I am into a lot of stuffs that fetch me nothing less than 400k a month so I don't think I should be regarded poor.

My house in the East is at roofing level. I am almost completing the payment of 4.5 million for a land I'm purchasing at Mowe, I own my car plus another Sienna I bought when Fiverr was booming.

I have a masters degree. So, should a girl reject me because I use my car to drive on Uber?

I am just laughing at her ignorance. The other time, we were talking and I jokingly asked her why she's putting on make up, and she was like, so she can find better suitors.

I thence assume I am not a better suitor because to her, I'm poor. This is someone earning 8k per month in the school that she was teaching during ASUU strike.

I wonder why women are impatient when it comes to taking decisions and that's why most of them regret later.

I am supposing being a medical student makes this girl think she deserves someone better than just a cab driver.

LOL.

Run as fast as you can from this girl. She's the type that will abandon you if you have a slight business challenge

emerged01:
TenQ
It is JW's doctrine. I raised this thread for enlightenment.
The articles on JW journal that I was reading around 2017 was what prompted this thread. It is not my doctrine,I only asked a question.

It's okay then. The JW organisation is prone to misrepresenting the scriptures to suit their doctrines.
Their doctrines break down when you slow them down to look into the scripture rather than what they have memorised.

Thanks for bringing this subject up

MaxInDHouse:
Let's take it step by step.

Have you checked the Exodus account of the original twelve tribes of Israel?

The multitude standing before the throne of God are on planet earth it simply means all of them will worship God in one accord when Satan, demons and false prophets are out of the way survivors will all worship Jehovah as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers. That's what it means!

Rev 7:9-12:
"After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; and cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honor, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen."

FACT ONE:
1. The Multitudes were from all the tribes of the world
2. They stood BEFORE the throne and before the Lamb
3. The four BEASTS and the 24 Elders were also BEFORE the throne


My dear Maximus,
1. can you note that the Multitudes were BEFORE the throne of God?
2. Is this throne on earth or in heaven?


Rev 7:15:
"Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them."

FACT TWO:
1. Do you concur that the Multitudes are IN the Temple of God?
2. Where is this Temple of God?


You didn't respond to the earlier question

Are the Multitudes from every nation ALSO before the THRONE with the 144,000?

Your doctrine of ONLY 144,000 in heaven breaks down sir



Aemmyjah and emerged01
Why did you two keep quiet?
You've been misled

Apart from the 144,000 a Great Multitude coming out of the tribulation will be in heaven before the THRONE of the Lamb and the 24 Elders

MaxInDHouse:
©They are men means they are humans with a masculine heart they aren't indecisive like females do naturally. So they're not literal males.

©They are virgins they have never given total support to politics they only believe in God/God's

©They are the first set of humans that will gain everlasting life before anyone else.

©They always speak the truth no matter how bitter it is when it comes to worship.

©They are faithful people from different races throughout the earth not literal Israelites.
You can crosscheck the names of the original twelve tribes of Israel as written in the Bible book of Exodus 1:1-5 to be sure if it's the same as what John listed at Revelations 7:5-8

Follow the scriptures sir!
There is a specific reason the 144,000 were broken in groups of 12,000 for each of the tribes of Israel. This is not subject to any other reinterpretation sir.

Are the Multitudes from every nation ALSO before the THRONE with the 144,000?

Your doctrine of ONLY 144,000 in heaven breaks down sir

emerged01:
Is it misconception to believe that all the people who believe in Jesus Christ will make Heaven?
According to JW,God selects a limited number of faithful Christians who, after their death, will be resurrected to life in heaven. (1 Peter 1:3, 4) Once they have been chosen, they must continue to maintain a Christian standard of faith and conduct in order not to be disqualified from receiving their heavenly inheritance.—Ephesians 5:5; Philippians 3:12-14.

Your false doctrine make you not quote scriptures, you will rather quote references that people will not look at.

There are TWO sets of scripture Chapters that spoke about the 144,000

FIRST CHAPTER
Rev 7:4-8:
"And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed a hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. Of the tribe of Judah were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Asher were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Naph´tali were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manas´seh were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Is´sachar were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Zeb´ulun were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand."


FACT 1
They are from the TWELVE Tribes of Israel

After this check

Rev 7:9-11:
"After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; and cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,"

FACT 2:
ALSO with the 144,000 are multitudes from every tribe of the earth before the THRONE

FACT 3:
ALL the Multitudes were dressed in WHITE robes

The 144,000 and the multitudes were ALL before the THRONE of God in worship

Then

Rev 7:13-17:
"And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes."


FACT 4:
An INTRODUCTION of the Multitudes in White Robes

1. They came OUT of the Great Tribulation
2. They will serve God Before His throne day and night
3. The Lamb of God will be their Shepherd

In addition to the 144,000 the multitudes were ALL putting on WHITE robes




SECOND CHAPTER

Rev 14:1-3:
"And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion, and with him a hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: and they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth."

FACT 5:



1. The 144,000 were distinguished by being on mount Zion with Christ
2. They were distinguished by singing a special song which no one could learn
3. These people were redeemed from the earth
4. They sang before the THRONE


Don't forget that the Multitudes were ALSO before the THRONE


Rev 14:3-5:
"and they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."


FACT 6:
An INTRODUCTION of the 144,000 in White Robes

1. They were Men
2. They were Virgins
3. They are First fruits to God and His Lamb
4. They are pure and without fault in speech

In addition these are SPECIFICALLY from the 12 tribes of Israel according to Rev 7:4-8:



Let the Wise Learn the scripture with a humble heart and not just swallow premade doctrines


Cc:
Aemmyjah:

emerged01

advocatejare:
Apart from the Lord of the East and West, Allah also swore by other things:

Antichristian and LegalWolf will pretend not to see this

I swear by the Quran full of wisdom Quran 36:2

I swear by those who draw themselves out in ranks Quran 37:1

I swear by the wind that scatters far and wide, Quran 51:1

I swear by the heaven full of ways. Quran 51:7

I swear by the Mountain, Quran 52:1

I swear by the star when it goes down. Quran 53:1

But nay! I swear by the falling of stars; Quran 56:75

Noon. I swear by the pen and what the angels write Quran 68:1

But nay! I swear by that which you see, Quran 69:38

Nay; I swear by the moon Quran 74:32

Nay! I swear by the day of resurrection. Nay, I swear by the self accusing soul, that the Day of Judgment is a certainty. Quran 75:1-2

I swear by the emissary winds, sent one after another (for men's benefit), Quran 77:1

Then I swear by the angels who bring down the revelation, Quran 77:5

But nay! I swear by the stars, Quran 81:15

But nay! I swear by the sunset redness, Quran 84:16

I swear by the daybreak, Quran 89:1

Nay! I swear by this city Quran 90:1

I swear by the sun and its brilliance Quran 91:1

I swear by the night when it draws a veil, Quran 92:1

I swear by the fig and the olive, and mount Sinai, And this city made secure, Quran 95:1-3

I swear by the runners breathing pantingly Quran 100:1

I swear by the time, Quran 103:1

somehow:
Which department is that?

So why are they being fined?

The answer is here:
Can you answer the question why you feel that banks are reluctant to replace their old Naira for the new?

somehow:
You still didn't answer the question

Why are they being fined if truly its the CBN not giving them the new notes?

Except your friend is in the top management level and makes decisions for the bank, he's not expected to know how far.

She works in the department responsible for moving cash to and fro CBN.

Trust government news at your peril

somehow:
Stop peddling lies
Did you bother to read the article at all?
If new notes aren't available, why then is CBN fining them?

A close friend that works in a Bank (I won't mention the name) gave me the situation report just yesterday night. The amount they get is far short of their daily requirements

Omicronvaccine:
https://igberetvnews.com/1437271/banks-pay-n1m-fine-daily-failure-collect-new-naira-notes-cbn/

CBN is not giving banks enough new notes

Ovacoma:
How many fresh bodies of Islam prophets have been dug up since Saudi Arabia started building all these mega structures for the people that come to Mecca yearly?? Dr Jay Smith has claimed and even showed proofs again and again that there was no place called Mecca in the 6th century!!

How many has the Muslims dug out as evidence?
Can one find what never even existed!?


Even if you won't exhume the body of Mohammed, how come not one body of the early companions has been found?



If Mohammed didn't rot, why bury him?

AntiChristian:
The OP is not to reconcile John 8:29 with your Psalm verse but with the fact that Jesus was left alone on the cross by the God that sent him.

And I asked


If the Messiah did NOT say the content of Psalm 22, would he still be the Messiah?

If I have just five minutes left to live and I want to enter paradise, Antichristian what would you tell me?

AntiChristian:
Alhamdulillah Rabbil 'Aalamin.

I am pleased with Allah as my one and only Lord, with Islam as my way of life and Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam!

We worship Allah alone without partners! We only call Him by the most beautiful names. There's no one like Him among His creations.

If He intends to do anything He just say to it "be" and it is. He needs no son or grandson to help Him in His dominion.

He is omnipotent, omniscient and physically present above the throne above the seven heavens!

Far is He from dying as He created the angel of death! He dies not! He is the self subsisting, the eternal living! He forgives whoever He wills and punishes whoever He wills. He needs no blood to forgive! He is able to do all things!

Everyone will carry the burden of their own sin! I didn't inherit my dad's sin. Definitely no one inherits Adam sin! Allah did forgive Adam as He's oft-forgiving , most merciful!

I and my family will live and die as Muslims. Aamin.

O Lord Forgive me, my parents and the believers till the day of resurrection.

Aamin.

You have only repeated rhetorics.

Islam and misconceptions.
1. No body says you inherited your father's sins. You inherited the sinful nature of Adam and Eve. Meaning that Like a PIG by nature is a dirty animal, by nature as a human being, you are a sinner by nature.

This is why of all human beings in the World, ONLY the Messiah is free from Sin.

2. No single Christian associate ANY partner with God. What we have consistently affirmed is that
God is the Father
God is the Word
God is the Spirit
If you don't understand this, too bad.

3. What is death?
Unfortunately, you Muslims will close your eyes to understanding when it pleases you.
You and I know that Death is NEVER an Annihilation. It is a CHANGE/TRANSFORMATION or DISCONNECTION of the Physical Body from the Spiritual Essence of a Person.

Even as Muslims, you tell tales of when two angels at death will ask you that has died 3 or 5 questions depending on the hadiths you read. And the death person will Hear the Angels, Respond to the Angels and Even Feel the bliss or torment of the grave.

4. There is no forgiveness after death. No amount of prayers will change the result of your choice of life you have lived on earth. If Mohammed is for paradise, he doesn't need your prayers (but he himself is afraid he is destined for the fire). This is why I ask you to look at the Messiah for your salvation. God can forgive you, but for your dead loved ones, it is too late.

5. Mohammed is actually a partner with Allah and probably the black stone for it forgives you of your sin.

6. Finally, there was nothing Allah made by saying "BE!". If there is , I challenge you to proof it from the Qur'an.

Even to raise up the dead, Allah has to use a Cow: isn't it?
Even to forgive sin, Allah use the word "MAY"...

MrCodeSolo:
why are you saying someone is in the best of the Deceivers when your scripture already made some similar references to that.... If I had never practiced Christianity since from the tender age of 9 and all the way to my early 30s before reverting back to Islam. After exploring some deeper truths, biblical lies and with a great deal of indept thinking in my heart....you people with all your confusion-mixed doctrines, numerous Christian denominations... and constracting belief systems within the same "alleged" body of Christ. Are pouring gasoline on people spiritual ignorance and go about with raised shoulders filled with the boosted pride of Paul the apostle, the one whose confusion and madden beliefs upon encountering some inexplicable light for all we knew it could be the morning star? he had no where to turn to but happened to go to arabia first before coming back some 3yrs later and started inspiring gigantic lies.

Since you were a former church goer, can I humbly ask you some questions?

1. Why do you think Allah sent Jesus into the world with such a distinguishing attributes?
Like why was Jesus born without a Father?
2. Why is Jesus the Messiah?
3. What is a spirit and who is the Holy Spirit?

Thank you

AntiChristian:
Where's John 8:29 in all your prose?

You're the ignorant one here!

John 8:29:
"And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him."

How do you reconcile it with what the Messiah was prophesied to say in Psalm 22.
If the Messiah did NOT say such, would he still be the Messiah?

Can you please give me Allah's plan of Redemption/Salvation?
After all, not every human being will make paradise!

MrCodeSolo:
why are you saying someone is in the best of the Deceivers when your scripture already made some similar references to that.... If I had never practiced Christianity since from the tender age of 9 and all the way to my early 30s before reverting back to Islam. After exploring some deeper truths, biblical lies and with a great deal of indept thinking in my heart....you people with all your confusion-mixed doctrines, numerous Christian denominations... and constracting belief systems within the same "alleged" body of Christ. Are pouring gasoline on people spiritual ignorance and go about with raised shoulders filled with the boosted pride of Paul the apostle, the one whose confusion and madden beliefs upon encountering some inexplicable light for all we knew it could be the morning star? he had no where to turn to but happened to go to arabia first before coming back some 3yrs later and started inspiring gigantic lies.

2 Kings 19:10
“Thus you shall say to Hezekiah king of Judah, ‘Do not let your God in whom you trust deceive you saying, “Jerusalem will not be given into the hand of the king of Assyria.”


Isaiah 37:10
“Thus you shall say to Hezekiah king of Judah, ‘Do not let your God in whom you trust deceive you, saying, “Jerusalem will not be given into the hand of the king of Assyria.”

Jeremiah 20:7
O Lord, You have deceived me and I was deceived;
You have overcome me and prevailed.
I have become a laughingstock all day long;
Everyone mocks me.

Jeremiah 4:10
Then I said, “Ah, Lord God! Surely You have utterly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, ‘You will have peace’; whereas a sword touches the throat.”

Ezekiel 14:9
“But if the prophet is prevailed upon to speak a word, it is I, the Lord, who have prevailed upon that prophet, and I will stretch out My hand against him and destroy him from among My people Israel.


2 Thessalonians 2:11
For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false.

Jobs 13:7
“Will you speak what is unjust for God,
And speak what is deceitful for Him?

1 Kings 22:22-23
The Lord said to him, ‘How?’ And he said, ‘I will go out and
be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’
Then He said, ‘You are to entice him and also prevail.
Go and do so. Now therefore, behold,
the Lord has put a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets;
and the Lord has proclaimed disaster against you.”

ALL THESE VERSES MENTIONED ABOVE ARE FOUND IN THE BIBLE YOU CARRY TO CHURCH OR MEETINGS...SETTLE YOUR HOUSE FIRST.

A Deciever is a NOUN sir.
YAHWEH is Not a Deceiver: Satan is the deceiver

Show one verse in the bible that calls God a deceiver!

Genesis 3:4-5
The serpent said to the woman, You surely will not die! For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.

John 8:44
You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

2 Corinthians 11:14
No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.

2 Corinthians 11:3
But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ.

Ephesians 6:11
Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil.

Banilla:
He could have used it to make this point.

He want to argue needlessly!

Banilla:
Do you think maybe Jesus was settling an example? That as christains bear their crosses, it's not a sin to believe they have been forsaken by God? Like, he was human when he was killed. Maybe he acted like one.

TenQ

Psalm 22 is NOT a coincidence!

DispatcherLagos:
And the Christian's book told them that if the man was a Sinner before his death he will rot in hell and if paraventure his killers repents before their deaths, they will go to heaven.

Now assume that you have sense, does that make sense to you?

It does.

No one knows when the thief will come to his house, be prepared.

What killed an evil man is not what made him evil

Kobojunkie:
Generations applied to the Old Covenant where parents were tasked with teaching their children the Law. That is not the case in the New Covenant where all pretty much exist as if Eunuchs.

Open a new thread as this is not the appropriate place for such a discuss!

AntiChristian:
How does all these answer the OP?

Except the OP is Dumb and is under the bondage of Satan!

Kobojunkie:
1. Why in the world would Jesus Christ think to recite Psalm 22 just as He was about to give up His last breath?

Check verse 31
31 Each generation will tell their children about the good things the Lord has done

OLAADEGBU:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wNMNZsl17U



A Man Wearing A Jesus Saves T-shirt At Mall Of America Was Ordered To Take It Off or leave!

And this same people are afraid of Muslims!?

The world is coming to an end!

AntiChristian:
In the Bible we read (in Matthew and Mark) of Jesus claiming God abandoned him on the cross:
About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?”
(which means “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?”).
Matthew 27:46

At the ninth hour, Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?" which means, "My God, My God, why have You abandoned me?"Mark 15:34

But on the contrary, Jesus made a claim in John that God will never abandon him to himself since he does what please God.
"And the One who sent me is with me; he did not abandon me to myself, because I always do the things pleasing to him.”John 8:29

Does this mean Jesus did what displeased God hence he abandoned him?

Jesus was Quoting the book of Psalm to remind the people about the prophecy of the Messiah's death. When the Messiah comes, he would quote this Psalm.

Ps 22:1,16-21:
"My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why do you refuse to help me or even to listen to my groans? …
The enemy, this gang of evil men, circles me like a pack of dogs; they have pierced my hands and feet. I can count every bone in my body. See these men of evil gloat and stare; they divide my clothes among themselves by a toss of the dice. O Lord, don't stay away. O God my Strength, hurry to my aid. Rescue me from death; spare my precious life from all these evil men. Save me from these lions' jaws and from the horns of these wild oxen. Yes, God will answer me and rescue me."



Was the Messiah mocked by people?
Mark 15:29:
"And they that passed by railed on him, wagging their heads, and saying, Ah, thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days,"

Mark 15:19-20:
"And they smote him on the head with a reed, and did spit upon him, and bowing their knees worshipped him. And when they had mocked him, they took off the purple from him, and put his own clothes on him, and led him out to crucify him."

Was the Messiah crucified on the cross by nailing his hands and feet?
Matt 27:35:
"And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots."

Luke 24:39:
"Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have."

Luke 24:40:
"And when he had thus spoken, he showed them his hands and his feet."


Was the Messiah's cloth shared or divided by lottery?
Mat 27:35:
"After the crucifixion, the soldiers threw dice to divide up his clothes among themselves."

John 19:23-24:
"Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout. They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the Scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did."

Was the Messiah's life saved?
Luk 24:40:
"As he spoke, he held out his hands for them to see the marks of the nails, and showed them the wounds in his feet."

Sheistoopretty:
Who is dis one What do u know about marriage?

Im so sorry, I didn't want to stir up the hornets nest.

As a marriage counselor of several years now, I think I can speak on marriage especially with respect to Christians.

When you get married, one of the act of marriage you should do is the give thanks together with your husband in the middle of sex.

Sex is holy and spiritual within the confines of marriage!

ochejoseph:
Atiku's Leadership Of The Economic Management Team: Oby Ezekwesili Lied - Dr Oche Otorkpa



Previous thread https://www.nairaland.com/7529799/ezekwesili-slams-atiku-claiming-he

Atiku was a ceremonial head of the unit. He never called for nor attended their meetings just once. Ony was speaking the truth!

Sheistoopretty:
Pastor? is dis what Christianity has been reduced to? I will stop going to church from now henceforth


Well,



Nigerian men are us*less............all of them

Sexual pleasure and talk is permitted between legally married people. Sex is a spiritual thing. With this kind of mindset, you'll have problems with your spouse.

Lukuluku69:
If the concept of SIN as you pointed out is different in Islam and Christianity, why not follow your own concept and allow the Muslims follow theirs?

Why not let your ways and delusions be yours only? And let the Muslims delusions be theirs?

Why all these rigmaroles all in the name of explaining what you obviously don't understand? Why parade Nairaland like an Ogbanje talking to a people whose .iNDS are made up?

Are you sure you did not run away from your ward at YabaLeft or is it Aro confinement you escaped from? Thread after threads with no meaningful headway?

O ga for all the Relentless Bigots o

1. How do you think I will fee in paradise knowing that I could have explained the plan of God's salvation to you so that you'll be saved?
2. How do you think you will feel about me who knows the truth but didn't warn you Muslims enough about it?


Either way, it is not good. Mr Lukman, God loves you and desires to save you. Jesus said: humanity prefer darkness to light.

I can explain the plan of salvation of God through the Bible, except for chanting La illa ila lah, can you explain the plan of salvation in the Qur'an?

The purpose of Satan is to deceive mankind with truth mixed with poison and unfortunately, Lukman you are already in the hands of the best of the Deceivers.

Lukuluku69:
If the concept of SIN as you pointed out is different in Islam and Christianity, why not follow your own concept and allow the Muslims follow theirs?

Why not let your ways and delusions be yours only? And let the Muslims delusions be theirs?

Why all these rigmaroles all in the name of explaining what you obviously don't understand? Why parade Nairaland like an Ogbanje talking to a people whose .iNDS are made up?

Are you sure you did not run away from your ward at YabaLeft or is it Aro confinement you escaped from? Thread after threads with no meaningful headway?

O ga for all the Relentless Bigots o

1. How do you think I will feel in paradise knowing that I could have explained the plan of God's salvation to you so that you'll be saved?
2. How do you think you will feel about me who knows the truth but didn't warn you Muslims enough about it?


Either way, it is not good. Mr Lukman, God loves you and desires to save you. Jesus said: humanity prefer darkness to light.

I can explain the plan of salvation of God through the Bible, except for chanting La illa ila lah, can you explain the plan of salvation in the Qur'an?

The purpose of Satan is to deceive mankind with truth mixed with poison and unfortunately, Lukman you are already in the hands of the best of the Deceivers.

I will have to explain the Concept of SIN in Christianity as it is completely different from the Concept of SIN in Islam. Sin is not just what we have done that is not right but a CONTAMINANT!

The Bible describes our Bodies as Houses or Containers (Cup, Plate etc) for the Spirit of God.

1Cor 6:19:
"Or have ye not known that your body is the Temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which ye have from God, and ye are not your own?"

Violation of God's Rule for Mankind is called SIN. SIN Contaminate our Bodies just as Human Excrement contaminates a vessel for eating.

1. If I excrete inside a Gold plate and cup that you gave me to keep for you, would you eat from it when I use it to serve Pounded Yam, Egusi soup, Assorted meat and wine?
2. How about if I wash it with soap, water and bleach: would you eat my food from the golden plate and cup?

You will note that from the day I use the gold plate and cup for excrement, no matter what I do to clean it, it becomes unclean for you. The quantity of excrement does not matter either tiny or massive doesn't change the point that the vessels are permanently unclean.


Rom 3:23:
"for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

We cannot by any means share eternally with God his Paradise


ONLY God has the Power to take our contaminated LIFE and wash it by HIMSELF with His OWN Detergent and Bleach and to His OWN Satisfaction
This requirement is fulfilled in the blood of Jesus.

Heb 9:22:
"And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission (forgiveness of sin)."


Finally, Jesus said:
John 3:36:
"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."


John 6:40:
"And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life : and I will raise him up at the last day."


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FIRST: The Word Gospel means "Good News" and it is NOT a book: it is a Message.


What is the Message?
1. That the Messiah has come!
The Messiah is One who is to rule the Whole World and Create a Eutopian Civilization whose domain is without End. In modern day terms we will call it Paradise .
2. The Messiah is the Gift of God to Humanity: that whosoever BELIEVED in Him will not perish but earn eternal life with God in Paradise. Through the Messiah all who know that they are SICK in their Soul/Spirit through the Virus of Sin can get healed and thus be qualified for Paradise: for it is impossible for a sinner to inherit the kingdom of God.

Why are ALL Humans in Trouble?
1. Because ALL humans are sinners by nature AND no one contaminated with sin can be united with God after this life in His paradise. We ALL inherited our sin nature from Adam and Eve.
2. God is Absolute, Just and Infinitely above ALL, He has set a boundary of perfection around Himself. By God's law, the minutest sin must be Judged as VIOLATIONS of God's rule is taken extremely seriously by God.
3. It is impossible for ANY violator of God's rule to UNDO the consequence of his sin.
4. All Violators of God's rule face the "Second Death"! Death is NOT a form of Annihilation BUT a DISCONNECTION. The second death is an Eternal REJECTION and DISCONNECTION of such a guilty person from God to a place described as "the Lake of Fire"!

Why is it the Good News?
1. Because God so much loved Humanity, He presented a Perfect SACRIFICE as a GIFT to pay the PENALTY of our sins. Then, God can execute Justice on us and yet Free us from the consequence of our Sin.
2. In the Old Testament, God instituted the Ordinance of SACRIFICE to atone for the sin of the children of Israel: The sacrificial animal thus become a SCAPEGOAT for them. The children of Israel commited iniquity BUT the sacrificial animal is paying with its life for their sin. This have to be repeated often and at least once a year. This was an allegory to the atonement that will be done by the Messiah.
3. In the New Testament, the Messiah came as Human but did NOT inherit the SIN nature of the descendants of Adam and Eve so that He is the perfect Lamb of God to take away the sins of the world. The sacrifice of the Messiah is INFINITE, therefore He can take Upon Himself the Infinite nature of God's Judgement for people.
4. Anyone who BELIEVES and ACCEPTS Gods Solution for His Sin as a Free Gift of God becomes BORN AGAIN. Meaning that He becomes a "NEW PERSON" as far as God is concerned: "A CHILD of God" and Disconnected fromnthe Curse of Adam and Eve!

Jesus explained this process of becoming a Child of God in John 3:14-15
Jn 3:14-15:
"And just as Moses lifted-up the serpent in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up in order that everyone putting-faith in Him may have eternal life."

Let me Explain briefly:
In Numbers 21:4-9
#1. The children of Israel blasphemed against God and Moses
#2. God punished them by sending exceptionally poisonous snakes into their camp
#3. After thousands have died as the snake venom defied all medical solutions, the children of God knew that this was God's Judgement against them.
#4. They asked Moses to beg the LORD for them to Forgive them and Remove the snakes. Moses went up to the LORD to plead for the Children of Israel
#5. God forgives them but He would NOT remove the poisonous snakes. Instead, God says to Moses:
i. Make a snake image and hang it on a Pole in the center of the camp of Israel.
ii. Any Israelite that is bitten by a snake should drag himself to the place where the brass snake image was hung and look.
iii. Anyone who believed in God's solution for the snake venom and look at the brass snake will live and not does as a result of the venom.

Salvation through Christ Explained:
Anyone who BELIEVED in the SOLUTION of God ( to look at the brass snake) lived. Everyone who REJECTS the Solution of God for the venom DIED.

Jesus said: Just as Moses hung a snake image in the wilderness, so the same way He would be hung. Anyone who Believed in God's solution will come under the covenant of God's Peace.
JESUS Described those who Believed in the SOLUTION of God for their Sin by coming to the Messiah hung on the Tree as BORN AGAIN.

John 3:14-15:
"And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life."

And then:
John 3:16-18:
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

Unfortunately, Jesus said that:
This FREE GIFT of God will be REJECTED by many and you my dear Muslims, you are of them.
John 3:19-20:
"And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved."

Your Questions Please!
This time around, I am not asking you the questions


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AntiChristian:
What then is the Arabic word for Masturbation as Muhammad mentioned it?

Google is your Friend!

We don't have assistant Allah. This are one of your lies. Muhammad is the messenger of Allah to Mankind just as Jesus was a messenger to the lost sheep of Israel.
Abuse him or not does not change the fact that you are the liar, the uncouth and ill-bred Christian with the Holy Spirit.



So Satan get son for Bible? This is how you'll know Christians are only guided by devilish emotions and no Holy Spirit!
You just pack lies and abuse in thread! Anyways, you are Christian who don't follows Christ!

Can I become a Muslim without ascribingy allegiance to Mohammed?
Mohammed is assistant Allah!

Why do you Muslims stone to death people who you consider as blaspheming Mohammed? Deborah's case is still fresh on the table.

You Google is where you get your authority!?
SMH!

When you behave like a person with Satan's DNA, you are a child of Satan. Starting with Mohammed!