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Ola260:
Your God and his followers praises the devil.
Can u pls explain this to me too

Is this the translation of the Arabic speech!

Ola260:
Jesus came to study himself and he is a God.
Pls explain that to me too.
Since common sense seems to uncommon to u

Is that the translation!?
That Jesus came to study Himself!?

Sixfiguresmart:
Sahih Muslim, Book 004, Number 1787

Ubayy b. Ka'b reported: I was in the mosque when a man entered and prayed and recited (the Qur'an) in a style to which I objected. Then another man entered (the mosque) and recited in a style different from that of his companion. When we had finished the prayer, we all went to Allah's Messenger and said to him: This man recited in a style to which I objected, and the other entered and recited in a style different from that of his companion. The Messenger of Allah asked them to recite and so they recited, and the Apostle of Allah expressed approval of their affairs (their modes of recitation). and there occurred in my mind a sort of denial which did not occur even during the Days of Ignorance. When the Messenger of Allah saw how I was affected (by a wrong idea), he struck my chest, whereupon I broke into sweating and felt as though I were looking at Allah with fear. He (the Holy Prophet) said to me: Ubayy, a message was sent to me to recite the Qur'an in one dialect, and I replied: Make (things) easy for my people. It was conveyed to me for the second time that it should be recited in two dialects. I again replied to him: Make affairs easy for my people. It was again conveyed to me for the third time to recite in seven dialects. And (I was further told): You have got a seeking for every reply that I sent you, which you should seek from Me. I said: O Allah! forgive my people, forgive my people, and I have deferred the third one for the day on which the entire creation will turn to me, including even Ibrahim (for intercession).

And ALL the dialects have disappeared. Maybe Allah inspired Uthman to burn the rest. Confused satanic religion

Sixfiguresmart:
In how many ahruf was teh quran revealed?

An Arabic Qur'an" (12:2) and "in clear Arabic language" (26:195)

4699. It is related that Anas ibn Malik said, "'Uthman commanded Zayd ibn Thabit, Sa'id ibn al-'As, 'Abdullah ibn az-Zubayr, and 'Abdu'r-Rahman ibn al-Harith ibn Hisham to write out copies of the Qur'an. He told them, "When you and Zayd ibn Thabit disagree about the Arabic of the Qur'an, you should write it in the language of Quraysh. The Qur'an was revealed in their tongue.' They did that." (Aisha Bewley, The Sahih Collection of Al-Bukhari, Chapter 69. Book of the Virtues of the Qur'an; underline emphasis ours)

The Qur'an is in clear Arabic language yet they can't do Islam without thousands of hadiths and Tafsirs to explain the Qur'an. Is that not a contradiction?

damoobaba:
There was a lady in the Bq I lived when I was serving. It was when she gave birth that we began to wonder when she got pregnant. That's someone we were seeing everyday.

Some women are like that!

LegalWolf:
Pretty boy TenQ Are you scared?

I admit that I do not how to quote allegation on Nairaland where my quote will be side by side yours. But if it is to quote you verbatim and giving time stamp and the date of your posts, I will. Do not despair pretty boy . This is not a retrial at all. To retry what? If you think it is a retrial, just copy and paste your 'argument' to our judges and let them decide.

Do you have issues with the procedure? Do you doubt any of the judges, that is why I gave till 6 for all these issues to be thrashed out. yhwh bears me witness that I have tried to be as fair and honest to you as possible. The same rule that applies to me apply to you. Please don't distract me with unnecessary side comments. Let me rebut your two epistles and go finish my appellate brief I am preparing!

It is a challenge to you, quote my allegations and prove it's a lie. What is so difficult with that Mr lying LegalWolf!

LegalWolf:
I have just ran through a couple of your posts and you keep screaming 'quote me'. LOL! By putting your statement in inverted comma, is that not me quoting you?

Quote my allegations one by one and burst them LIAR!

[quote author=Ola260 post=117977180][/quote]Why is the translation such a big fuss to you Muslims!?

Is there TRUTH that is supposed to be kept hidden from people!?

Suddenly, fear grips them and they can't speak again! Same reaction!

Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

LegalWolf:
Pretty boy TenQ

Just like Darrel Evans aptly put it, my mentions should be like joy that comes early in the morning to you. Shouldn't that be? . Anyways, I travelled out of town for an event and I am just settling down but I have missed my pretty boy TenQ. I have so much missed you and I know you missed me too... Don't you Don't break my heart .... Let us go down to serious business.

PRELIMINARY POITS

You have written four long epistles to who... ? errrm probably to the xgsyebkahdi! (meaning - to the dustbin!) . And at last count, I have replied two out of four of these posts. I woke up this morning expecting a detailed rebuttal but all I could see is you shouting liar bla bla bla. Now you have alleged I am a liar which I will give you the ample opportunity to prove (with detail proposal to be described in the points to follow).

But before doing that, I will set out tonight to rebut EACH and EVERY of the remaining two epistles you wrote. Thereafter, I will now set out to writing three detailed posts which aims to fulfil two things:
1. That you are a shameless, worthless, immorally bankrupt Liar who lied ostensibly to win an argument (first two of the post); and
2. That you should prove that I am a liar.

Since I am the one alleging (1), I TAKE the challenge to PROVE BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT that you are a liar who has lied to win an argument despite pretensions to the contrary. My first two posts will address that. But since you are the one alleging two here:

I've told you what to do. Quote my allegation and post your quote that counters it. It's not a retrial, it is comparing and quoting facts to know who is the LIAR!

I put it to you Mr LegalWolf, you are a BIG UNREPENTANT LIAR!

Ola260:
And like Ive said before too, u can table it before your pastors tomorrow after dancing and clapping.
I’m sure they wrote it for u.
Again, Arabic is just a language and can be learned by anyone. So u can as well help your if your fellow dancers can’t help u.
Thanks

I actually wrote it by myself. If you check, you've NEVER ever come across such a sentence. I noticed that ALL Muslims seem to be AFRAID of translating it and the Christians especially the pastor's cayn speak Arabic.

Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

haekymbahd:
No, I am saying it even explains it better....

But they are separate hadiths.

One Narrated By ‘Ikrima from Ibn ‘Abbas and the other by Narrated Abu Dhar from different occasions.

How do we know which of the two hadiths explain the other?

PJtech:
Lack of supervision from parent/guardian. A girl got 5month pregnant under ur roof, you negleted ur guardian role(ur wife should take 90% of the blame)

do have a talk with ur wife, never leave ur kids with same fate as this poor girl.... Learn from this mistake

Some girls have flat stomach ehn!
I know a girl who carried a 9month old pregnancy before she was discovered. She did everything she was expected to do. The stomach was almost as flat as a virgin. She gave birth 5 days after she was discovered. She had planned to give birth to the baby and dump him at the gates of the motherless children home

haekymbahd:
Save by grace of God... It means if anyone should repent at the point of death his/her sins will be forgiving. Check the Hadith below for better clarification...

Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Hadith Number 800B

Narrated By ‘Ikrima from Ibn ‘Abbas : Allah’s Apostles said, “When a slave (of Allah) commits illegal sexual intercourse, he is not a believer at the time of committing it; and if he steals, he is not a believer at the time of stealing; and if he drinks an alcoholic drink, when he is not a believer at the time of drinking it; and he is not a believer when he commits a murder,” ‘Ikrima said: I asked Ibn Abbas, “How is faith taken away from him?” He said, Like this,” by clasping his hands and then separating them, and added, “But if he repents, faith returns to him like this, by clasping his hands again.

Are you saying that

Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Hadith Number 800B
ABROGATED
Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 23, Number 329 : ?

Ola260:
And why should any Muslim bother to translate the rubbish you forged. Anyone in his right sense knows what u have there is not the real verse. U can still ask your pastors when u go clap and dance tomorrow sha

Like I said, I NEVER ever claimed that this is Qur'an. It is just a sentence in Arabic. It is NOT any verse in the Qur'an.

Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

Is it a complex Arabic?

haekymbahd:
the Hadith teaches repentance of sin then get saved by Gods mercy ..

Is this true or another Taqqiyya?

Sahih Muslim 2658 a
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying. Allah fixed the very portion of adultery which a man will indulge in. There would be no escape from it. The adultery of the eye is the lustful look and the adultery of the ears is listening to voluptuous (song or talk) and the adultery of the tongue is licentious speech and the adultery of the hand is the lustful grip (embrace) and the adultery of the feet is to walk (to the place) where he intends to commit adultery and the heart yearns and desires which he may or may not put into effect.

This hadith seem to say differently sir!

Ola260:
That y I said u should ask your pastor when u go dance and clap tomorrow.
The only I can render here is to provide the authentic verse. Your pastors that wrote those rubbish should help you tomorrow.
إِنَّ اللَّهَ وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا﴾
[ الأحزاب

I never insinuated that the Arabic verse was a Qur'an and indeed it is NOT Qur'an. I am puzzled that Muslims flee like there is no tomorrow when asked to translate the Arabic.

Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

AntiChristian:
The authentication of hadiths are done and is well known unlike the Bible. No one is claiming they are from Jews or Christians so stop off-points.

You lack even the smallest knowledge of the science of hadiths so i will especially tell you to keep shut in this regard. Don't go past your pay grade! Your opinion is wholly false. Fabricated hadiths are clear from Authentic ones to those with the knowledge not an holy spirit liar.

Chai. Hadiths is more like words attributed to the Prophet with the narrators and transmitters. All the people involved are screened specially. I don't think you can even understand even if i explain as the Bible does not not have such authentication. Holy Spirit don carry everything!

None is embarrassing to me. Your Bible may be.

For example how can your God get 32 virgins as tribute out of 16000 virgins of war in Numbers 31:40 after all their families male and young were killed off?

A. There are just three categories of your hadith
1. Sahih (Sound)
2. Hassan (Good)
3. Daif (Weak)

There is no grade of hadith called FABRICATION/FABRICATED!

The fact that a hadith is rated Daif does not make it a fabrication or untrue. If a hadith is a Fabrication, what is it doing in your books.

B. You Muslims can't do without your hadiths because some of your hadiths is actually superior to the Qur'an. If you claim I lie, Ill give you two examples
1. The Qur'an says Pray THREE times a day: the hadith abrogated the Qur'an and fixed the times of prayer to FIVE
2. Mutah (Temporary Marriage or Prostitution) was legalised in the Qur'an but abrogated by the hadith

Therefore, your hadith is even more powerful than you think.

C. Finally, on Numbers 31:41, I guess you need to suggest what you think the maidens were used for. LOL!
You sure indeed have a perverted mind!

haekymbahd:
Save by grace of God... It means if anyone should repent at the before death his/her sins will be forgiving. Check the Hadith below for better clarification...

Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Hadith Number 800B

Narrated By ‘Ikrima from Ibn ‘Abbas : Allah’s Apostles said, “When a slave (of Allah) commits illegal sexual intercourse, he is not a believer at the time of committing it; and if he steals, he is not a believer at the time of stealing; and if he drinks an alcoholic drink, when he is not a believer at the time of drinking it; and he is not a believer when he commits a murder,” ‘Ikrima said: I asked Ibn Abbas, “How is faith taken away from him?” He said, Like this,” by clasping his hands and then separating them, and added, “But if he repents, faith returns to him like this, by clasping his hands again.

Saved by grace means saved by GOD's MERCY because no one can pay for his sin against God!

Ola260:
Now I know who exactly u are.
I don't have to engage u in conversation.
"إِنَّ عيسى". I seek refuge from shaytan the cursed one

You don't need to engyme in any conversation, you only need to ask WHY they are all hiding information from you

Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

Sixfiguresmart:
I am wondering too but I need to ask antichristian. Antichristian, kindly let us know who numbered the quran and arranged the chapters.

Who ordered the Abbasid to write the Hadith?

Where is the family lineage of mohammed today since someone from his family will be the last prophet? The one that allah will SEND in mohammed's family, is he a messenger or a prophet?

Antichristian and Lukuluku69, kindly tell Tenq if the quran was HANDED down to mohamed or DICTATED.

FxMasterz would also want to hear from you guys whether the quran was recited during mohammed's lifetime since he continued receiving revelations during the night that he had an all-night sex romp with an 18 year old teenager and died on top her.

When allah said 'worship allah', was he talking to himself or to mohammed? In other verses was he talking to himself or to mohammed? How do we distinguish when allah is referring to himself and who determines that?

Are the words in the Hadith from allah or men? When you follow it, are you following allah or men?

Please ask them o: was it Allah that authorized the rearrangement of the perfect word of Allah?

[quote author=Ola260 post=117971668][/quote]Muslims have been afraid of the truth since I posted this!

Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

The truth will set you free

AntiChristian:
If you read the others i posted up their your brain will be updated and resettled.
If not then you're irredeemably irreparable!

It doesn't answer this
1. Does this particular hadith need a special interpretation?
2. What else do you think the hadith means?

Sixfiguresmart:
Hahaha how can I convert so that I can commit sexual immorality the way that I like and eventually get into paradise?

Will it be possible to thigh a 6 year old girl there and have sex with a 9 year old like mohammed did?

I also want to know if it will be possible to meet the allah that allah prays to and also have allah pray to me like he prayed to mohammed.

Lastly, if I convert would it be possible for mohammed to kiss my penis like he did Hassan and Hussein, and can allah blow into into my vagina like he did Mary?

The hallmark of Islam is lies: plenty of it. Even they don't trust their own hadiths

Ola260:
U can as well ask your pastors when u get to your dancing and clapping hall tomorrow

Google is your friend my dear!

Don't shut your eyes against the TRUTH?

AntiChristian:
You misrepresent hadiths or bring fabricated/weak ones for your judgement.

1. If some of your the hadiths were fabricated, it was done by Muslims with good intentions. The fabrications of it exist at all were not from the Christians or Jews.

2. It is impossible to completely decide which hadith is fabricated or not. You were not part of the history.

3. If the hadith was fabricated, it would not even enter your collections especially looking at how Muslims treat people who say rubbish against your prophet. Most likely the information was very common at the time of compilation.

4. They are YOUR books and part of your religious heritage. The fact that 1000 years later some of it is embarrassing doesn't change the core truth.

Sixfiguresmart:
Hahaha how can I convert so that I can commit sexual immorality the way that I like and eventually get into paradise?

Will it be possible to thigh a 6 year old girl there and have sex with a 9 year old like mohammed did?

I also want to know if it will be possible to meet the allah that allah prays to and also have allah pray to me like he prayed to mohammed.

Lastly, if I convert would it be possible for mohammed to kiss my penis like he did Hassan and Hussein, and can allah blow into into my vagina like he did Mary?

The Qur'an, Hadiths and their Tafsirs is enough to COMPLETELY destroy all of Islam without any help from other sources!

Sixfiguresmart:
Who Added The Diacritics To The Quran?

The oldest carbon dated copy of the quran is older than Mohammed.

In Arabic language the diacritics are letters, sounds and change the entire meaning of a word.

Muslims brag that the quran is preserved 100% and the same copy sent down by Gabriel is what they have today.

Take a look at the attachments. The oldest quran that predates Mohammed and the one in circulation now.

Now the questions are: Who decided what diacritics to use on a LETTER, not word?

Who added the diacritics?

Why did he add them to alter allah's word?

If Mohammed did not write the Quran and it was written about 25 years after he died. What BOOK did Jubril give to Mohammed? They said that he continued to receive revelations from Jubril when he was old. Was the BOOK given to Uthman or to Mohammed?

surah 10:39 In fact, they ˹hastily˺ rejected the Book without comprehending it and before the fulfilment of its warnings. Similarly, those before them were in denial. See then what was the end of the wrongdoers!

They accuse the Christians of having many Bibles, but what happened to the actual BOOK that Jubril gave to Mohammed? Where is it?

The Jews kept the Hebrew scriptures for 3550 years before Mohammed was born. Mohammed testified that the book with the Christians and Jews were from God in about 640 CE.

so, if the Jews and the Christians could keep their books even after so many invasions by superpowers, how come the caliphate that was never invaded unable to preserve at least a copy the original quran

I we even assume that Allah or Jubril dictated the Qur'an, does it make any sense to rearrange the chapters.

Who authorized the rearrangement? Was it Allah?

Sixfiguresmart:
I love it when you quote from their sources. AntiChristian is grilled. He is left in utter disarray. He was begin you not to involve us cos he knows that he will escape unhurt.

Antichristian, surah 6:154 Additionally, We gave Moses the Scripture, completing the favour upon those who do good, detailing everything, and as a guide and a mercy, so perhaps they would be certain of the meeting with their Lord.


Allah, the "WE" gave Moses the scriptures and the Muslims burned them. in all the islamic world, there is no record of the Torah given to Moses. The scrolls and all the sacred books. Since the 600 CE, Mohammed and subsequently the caliphate attacked nations and burned all the scriptures that they claim allah gave to Moses. If those were from allah, why no keep them and use them for comparison?

No nation has invaded the caliphate to destroy their artefacts and burn their masjids, but in all the masjids around arabia, no single manuscript of their acclaimed holy quran is found. They burn and keep on burning to conceal all the evidence. Asked them, where are the original manuscripts of the uthman's quran?

On the other hand, fragments of the Bible that was written thousands of years before mohammed was born continue to be found in Israel. In 1947 the dead sea scroll was discovered in a forgotten cave. Ladies and gentlemen, if any letter in that dead sea scroll had the amount of disparity as we have seen in the quran, so many people would have condemned christianity and ridiculed it. The saudi Arabians found 2500 errors in the quran already and are calling for rewriting of the quran.

But given the heap of debunked lies told in the quran and the uncovered fact that the old quran had no diacritic and contained nothing factual but what has already been written in the Hebrew scriptures by the Jews. There was nothing like revelation there in that manuscript. they do not want to sound out the content of that particular manuscript in Birmingham

Ask them for any direct copy of the Uthmanic Qur'an. It is NOT available or they are hiding it. What majority of the Muslims use now is the Hafs Qur'an (from Saudi government). Qur'an is only one had been their standard narrative until almost 36 different Arabic Qurans has been presented to them.

Unfortunately, they forget that the author of the Qur'an sometimes tell them the whole truth

1. Qur'an is the Words of Mohammed and not any God
Qur'an 69:40
Indeed, the Qur'an is the word of a noble Messenger.

2. All Muslims will enter Hell Fire:


Qur'an 19:71-72
There is not one of you but shall come to it, that is, [but] shall enter Hell. That is an inevitability [already] decreed by your Lord, [something which] He made inevitable and [which] He decreed; He will not waive it.

Then We shall deliver those that feared Allah and leave the wrong-doers there on their knees


They've been doing everything to mistranslate the English version. Ayah 72 makes the lies in ayah 71 inconsistent.

I pray for grace for freedom for all Muslims especially in Nigeria

Ola260:
U need work

It's my hobby!
I do it to relax after a hard day work.

You may want to help me translate this.

Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

What does it say?
It is not the Qur'an o!

AntiChristian:
You misrepresent hadiths or bring fabricated/weak ones for your judgement.

Aren't these hadiths self explanatory!?

Volume 2, Book 23, Number 329 :
Narrated by Abu Dhar
Allah's Apostle said, "Someone came to me from my Lord and gave me the news (or good tidings) that if any of my followers dies worshipping none (in any way) along with Allah, he will enter Paradise." I asked, "Even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse (adultery) and theft?" He replied, "Even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse (adultery) and theft."


1. Does this particular hadith need a special interpretation?
2. What else do you think the hadith means?

AntiChristian:
I have said it before. You are ignorant. And this is not an abuse! You simply don't know. You just pick one hadith and you pass your judgement on it just like that?

Is the hadith FALSE or Misrepresented by Christians and Jews?

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