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LegalWolf:
Hey our Pretty Boy TenQ (for those I mention, I enjoy calling this guy pretty as I think he is actually pretty. LOL!)

PART ONE OF THREE

My purpose in this thread is a very simple one - to irrefutably show that our pretty handsome boy called TenQ is nothing but a shameless, ignoble, morally bankrupt and despicable LIAR and not worthy to be interacted with. Let me explain:

PRELUDE
The context is a very long one and I won't want to bore you all with details. To my mind, it may be necessary BUT not sufficient to prove that our pretty boy is a liar. In other words, it is okay to know the context but not too fundamental. The key points to bear in mind are:
a. I have insinuated in one of our previous arguments that the book of John (and the entire New Testament) can NEVER be a product of Divine Being (or even intelligent human). In fact, that is the immediate context to our current engagement.

b. Pretty boy claims otherwise. He has made copious references to the Quran where Allah (SWT) enjoined us to believe in the scriptures revealed before the Quran and specifically to Injil and the Torah. He has also cited an hadith where the prophet (pbuh) enforced the Torah.

c. These Quranic verses he quoted, I did not dispute. But I assert that the correct translation of Injil is 'Gospel' (not Gospels). This is very fundamental to know as it clearly shows how dubious our pretty boy is.

d. It goes without saying that if Injil is correctly translated as 'Gospel' (one book), and the New Testament is a collection of Gospels (because in truth, it is made up of 4 Gospels, some incoherently and poorly articulated epistles and the Acts of the apostles), THEN THE NEW TESTAMENT CAN NEVER BE THE INJIL ALLAH ENJOINED MUSLIMS TO HAVE FAITH IN' .

e. This is just pure logic, a subject matter our pretty boy apparently struggles to grasp.

SETTING OUT THE ARGUMENT

This is where it gets interesting. Pretty boy asked me the following:



Down the same argument, he followed it with the following question and assertions.

(underlined mine).

Please you all remember that our pretty boy TenQ claims Injeel is ALL the books of the Christians. Not One, Not Four but All the Books of the Christians.

DID PRETTY BOY SHAMELESS LIED ?

But pretty boy's statement cannot be true. And as I will point out repeatedly in my next post (quoting myself this time and one or two references to pretty boy ).

Let me remind us the definition of a lie which goes thus:

'to say or write something that is not true in order to deceive someone'. Reference - https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/lie
In order words, to tell a lie,
a. You must have said something which is untrue; and
b. There is an intent to deceive someone.

I will prove before heaven and earth that these two are clearly present and pretty boy loves lying. And he is shameless at it!

cc: Ya Ikhwan (at copied) I just want to copy you all to know the kind of characters and shameless person you are engaging with!
AntiChristian
Fawaz050
Haekymbahd
gaskiyamagana


Spectators:
NNTR
Sixfiguresmart

AntiChristian:
Few days ago, I was traveling, got on the phone, gave some verses in the Bible and Qur’an. I alighted

Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman
https://knowislam.com.ng/when-a-christian-questions-an-ex-christian-bashir-lucas-samson-lukman/?fbclid=IwAR3FGIHhyYWs-kccMefmN0ODNZNcjD0gwB8n7hgcXeC_-Wc6J0Udv6urfbA

dedonfranco:
No Work No Pay.

You can't stay at home for 5 months and be collecting salary.

gaskiyamagana:
Allah revealed it to prophet NOT write. Who wrote the Bible and who corrupted It as far as Jeremiah 8:8 Is concerned ?

Fut9ure:
Very good
And them want receive salary way them nor work for
We be criminals for this country I swear
And the funny thing be say na this same us dey quick call our politicians thieves....

This country will never move forward because we are all hypocrites

Untill we accept that we all are thieves in Nigeria before we can see progress

One thing about this nation is that we all are criminals we are only fighting our politicians for stealing money not because we hate corruption but because we are not the ones carrying out the corruption
The only people way them suppose even pay for those months of strike na security department under nasu .ippis should separate them and pay for those months because security personnel were still going to work during that strike.

gaskiyamagana:
'AYATILLAH - SIGN OF ALLAH (Q33 :34,Q45:
' AMRULLAH - COMMAND OF ALLAH (Q65:5) KITABULLAH - WORD OF ALLAH (Q9 :6)
AL KITAB THE BOOK (Q2:2) KITABULLAH - BOOK OF ALLAH (Q2:101)
KITABUN MUBAARAKUN - BOOK OF BLESSING (Q6:155, Q38:59)
AL KITAB 'AZIIZUN - THE BOOK OF HONOUR (Q41:41)
AL KITAB MUNIR - THE BOOK OF ILLUMINATION (Q35:25)
AL KITABU-L-HAKIM - THE BOOK OF WISDOM (QI0:1)
KITABUN-M-MUBIN - A MANIFEST / PLAIN BOOK (Q5:15,Q26:2)
AL KITAB TIBYANA - THE BOOK OF EXPOSITION (Q16:89)
KITAB-M-MUSADDIQUN - BOOK CONFIRMING THE TRUTH (Q2 :41)
AL HAQQ - THE TRUTH (Q2:91) AL FURQAN - THE CRITERION(Q25:1)
HUDAN - GUIDANCE (Q3:4,Q16:102, Q27 :2) BURHAANU - CONVINCING PROOF(Q4:174)
MAW'IZATUN - (HOLY) ADVICE / ADMONITION (Q10:57,Q24:34)
ADH-DHIKRA - THE REMINDER (Q16:44) BUHARI - GLAD TIDINGS (Q16:89)
DHKIRUN MUBAARAKUN - BLESSED REMINDER (Q21:50)
AN-NUR - THE LIGHT (Q7:158, Q64: NURAN-M-MUBIIN - A MANIFEST LIGHT (Q4:174)
BAYYINATUN - CLEAR EVIDENCE (Q40:66) BASAA'IRU - CLEAR PROOF(Q7:203)
AYAATI BAYYINATUN - MANIFEST /CLEAR SIGN (Q22:16, Q24 :34, Q2:99)
QUR'AN 'AZIIM - THE GREAT QUR'AN (Q15 :87) SHIFAA'UN - HEALING (BOOK) Q10:57.
QUR'AN MAJIIDUN - GLORIOUS QUR'AN (Q85:21) RAHMATUN - MERCY (QI0:57, 16:64)
QUR'ANA' ARABIYYAN - ARABIC (LANGUAGE REVEAL) QUR'AN (Q12:7,Q20:117,Q42:7)
QUR'AN 'ARABIC - WONDERFUL QUR'AN (Q72:1)
BARKA JUMMAH.

haekymbahdx:
You weren't listening you arguing for argument sake

1. Do you accept that the literal meaning of salah is "linking something together"


salah derives from the root و ص ل (w-ṣ-l) which means "linking things together", hence why the obligatory prayers in Islam are referred to by the word salah (in the sense that through prayer one "connects" to God).

So what means is that Muslim connect to God through their prayers while Allah connect through sending down his blessings when his savant asks....

Salah is not prayer

haekymbahdx:
Your Father Abraham whom slept with his house girl is he a role model isn't that illegal..

haekymbahdx:
What you posted isn't convincing enough show me a source that can be traced to the prophet contemporaries that he slept with mariyah not that there isn't verse to answer this but I want you to post from authentic source...... The Hadith below disagrees with you

Sahih al-Bukhari 5267
Narrated `Ubaid bin `Umar:
I heard `Aisha saying, "The Prophet (ﷺ) used to stay for a long while with Zanab bint Jahsh and drink honey at her house. So Hafsa and I decided that if the Prophet (ﷺ) came to anyone of us, she should say him, "I detect the smell of Maghafir (a nasty smelling gum) in you. Have you eaten Maghafir?' " So the Prophet (ﷺ) visited one of them and she said to him similarly. The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Never mind, I have taken some honey at the house of Zainab bint Jahsh, but I shall never drink of it anymore." So there was revealed: 'O Prophet ! Why do you ban (for you) that which Allah has made lawful for you . . . If you two (wives of Prophet) turn in repentance to Allah,' (66.1-4 addressing Aisha and Hafsa. 'When the Prophet (ﷺ) disclosed a matter in confidence to some of his wives.' (66.3) namely his saying: But I have taken some honey."

haekymbahdx:
Also I don't understand why you xtians are insecure. I believe and trust in my God Allah if you do believe in yours also why not stick to yours and let us stick to ours then lets wait for God to judge us ...

Bossdave:
That's how they do. Rather than reflect on the anomalies to see whether they've been deceived, they'll enter defence mode.
They even ignorantly pray for the dead.

haekymbahdx:
First of all show your source then I will give you your answer to this the answer is in the Quran but before I give it post your source....

1. O Prophet! Why do you prohibit what God has made lawful for you, in terms of your Coptic handmaiden Mariya - when he lay with her in the house of Hafsa, who had been away, but who upon returning [an[i]d finding out] became upset by the fact that this had taken place in her own house and on her own bed - by saying, 'She is unlawful for me!', seeking, by making her unlawful [for you], to please your wives? And God is Forgiving, Merciful, having forgiven you this prohibition.
Tafsir al-Jalalayn;

2. Verily God has prescribed, He has made lawful, for you [when necessary] the absolution of your oaths, to absolve them by expiation, as mentioned in the surat al-Ma'ida [Q. 5:89] and the forbidding of [sexual relations with] a handmaiden counts as an oath, so did the Prophet (s) expiate? Muqatil [b. Sulayman] said, 'He set free a slave [in expiation] for his prohibition of Mariya'; whereas al-Hasan [al-Basri] said, 'He never expiated, because the Prophet (s) has been forgiven [all errors]'. And God is your Protector, your Helper, and He is the Knower, the Wise.
(Tafsir al-Jalalayn)

3. And, mention, when the Prophet confided to one of his wives, namely, Hafsa, a certain matter, which was his prohibition of Mariya, telling her: 'Do not reveal it!'; but when she divulged it, to 'A’isha, reckoning there to be no blame in [doing] such a thing, and God apprised him, He informed him, of it, of what had been divulged, he announced part of it, to Hafsa, and passed over part, out of graciousness on his part. So when he told her about it, she said, 'Who told you this?' He said, 'I was told by the Knower, the Aware', namely, God.
(Tafsir al-Jalalayn)

4. If the two of you, namely, Hafsa and 'A’isha, repent to God … for your hearts were certainly inclined, towards the prohibition of Mariya, that is to say, your keeping this secret despite [knowing] the Prophet's (s) dislike of it, which is itself a sin (the response to the conditional ['if the two of you repent to God'] has been omitted, to be understood as, 'it will be accepted of both of you'; the use of [the plural] qulub, 'hearts', instead of [the dual] qalbayn, 'both [your] hearts', is on account of the cumbersomeness of putting two duals together in what is effectively the same word); and if you support one another (tazzahara: the original second ta' [of tatazahara] has been assimilated with the za'; a variant reading has it without [this assimilation, tazahara]) against him, that is, the Prophet, in what he is averse to, then [know that] God, He (huwa, [a pronoun] for separation) is indeed his Protector, His supporter, and Gabriel, and the righteous among the believers, Abu Bakr and 'Umar, may God be pleased with both of them (wa-Jibrilu wa-salihu'l-mu'minina is a supplement to the [syntactical] locus of the subject of inna [sc. 'God']), who will [also] be his supporters, and the angels furthermore, further to the support of God and those mentioned, are his supporters, assistants of his, in supporting him [to prevail] over both of you. (Tafsir al-Jalalayn)

5. And from his narration on the authority of Ibn 'Abbas that he said regarding the interpretation of Allah's saying (O Prophet!): '(O Prophet!) i.e. Muhammad (pbuh). (Why bannest thou that which Allah hath made lawful for thee) i.e. marrying Maria the Copt, the Mother of Ibrahim; that is because he had forbidden himself from marrying her, (seeking to please thy wives) seeking the pleasure of your wives 'A'ishah and Hafsah by forbidding yourself from marrying Maria the Copt? (And Allah is Forgiving) He forgives you, (Merciful) about that oath.
(Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs; )
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6. (Allah hath made lawful for you (Muslims) absolution from your oaths (of such a kind)) and so the Prophet (pbuh) absolved himself from his oath and married Maria the Copt, (and Allah is your Protector) and Helper. (He is the Knower) He knows that you forbade yourself Maria the Copt, (the Wise) in that which He enjoined about the expiation of oaths. (Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs, 73)

7. (When the Prophet confided a fact unto one of his wives) i.e. Hafsah (and when she afterward divulged it) Hafsah divulged to 'A'ishah what the Prophet (pbuh) told her in confidence (and Allah apprised him thereof) and Allah informed him that Hafsah informed 'A'ishah, (he made known (to her) part thereof) part of what she said to 'A'ishah regarding the leadership of Abu Bakr and 'Umar; and it is said: about seeing Maria the Copt on his own (and passed over part) he did not mention making forbidding Maria the Copt on himself nor what he told her concerning the leadership of Abu Bakr and 'Umar after him, for he did not reproach him for this. (And when he told it her) when the Prophet (pbuh) informed Hafsah about what she said to 'A'ishah (she said) Hafsah said: (Who hath told thee) that I informed 'A'ishah? (He said) the Prophet (pbuh) said: (The Knower, the Aware hath told me) what you divulged to 'A'ishah. (Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs; )

8. Anas said: The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) had a female-slave (amat) with whom he had intercourse, but ‘Aishah and Hafsah would not leave him alone until he said that she was forbidden for him. Then Allah, the Mighty and Sublime, revealed: “O Prophet! Why do you forbid (for yourself) that which Allah has allowed to you.’ until the end of the Verse.”
"Sunan an-Nasa'i 3959 - The Book of the Kind Treatment of Women -

9. Mariyah the Copt was presented to the Messenger of God, given to him by al-Muqawqis, the ruler of Alexandria, and she gave birth to the Messenger of God’s son Ibrahim. These were the Messenger of God's wifes.
The Prophet admired Umm Ibrahim ["Mother of Ibrahim," Mariyah’s title], who was fair-skinned and beautiful. He lodged her in al-‘Aliyah, at the property nowadays called of Umm Ibrahim. He used to visit her there and ordered her to veil herself, [but] he had intercourse with her by virtue of her being his property
Al-Tabari. History of Tabari - Volume 39 - Biographies of the Prophet's Companions and Their Successors. pp. 193–194


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nlfpmod:
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Thank you.

haekymbahdx:
Even from the bolded "Allah send down on his messenger" what is he sending down if not blessing...

That is wrong translation the writer of the Hadith wasnt an English speaker so it was dubious or ignorant people who mistranslated it, You have been programmed to put prayer anywhere you see Salah.

Salah literally means "get close to" and not prayer. When Muslims observe Salah they get close to Allah through their worship/prayer and ask for his blessing upon them.

When Salah is used for Allah it means that Allah get close to his servant by confering blessing upon is servant which is what his servant asked for through their worship/prayer


"Pray upon" is not even an English format the right word is send blessings upon. [/b]Even at the bolded it shows Allah then sends down blessing after his asked for it?

Google is also telling you this yet you turn deaf hears whatever rocks your boat..


[b]Dua:: means prayer and wasn't used in the Hadith... I repeat Salah has no direct English equivalent so why are you so obsessed

Tinubuagbado:
Yorubas to be precise.


Igbos, know your enemies. They are not Hausa, not your brothers of south south, but that's the Yorubas.

haekymbahd:
You can't use just a quote from Hadith to judge. You have to know what the Quran says about this and other related Hadith to it or else it's more like cherry picking of verses..


Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:
 
"And those who do not invoke with Allah another deity or kill the soul which Allah has forbidden [to be killed], except by right, and do not commit unlawful sexual intercourse. And whoever should do that will meet a penalty."
(QS. Al-Furqaan 25: Verse 68)
 
"Multiplied for him is the punishment on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein humiliated -"
(QS. Al-Furqaan 25: Verse 69)

"Except for those who repent, believe and do righteous work. For them Allah will replace their evil deeds with good. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful."
(QS. Al-Furqaan 25: Verse 70)

haekymbahd:
The subject and the preposition shows pray doesn't fit the context... Well you know more than google what do I know

Ola260:
Your God and his followers praises the devil.
Can u pls explain this to me too

LegalWolf:
LOL! A despicable, shameless, morally reprehensible human has the NERVE to talk. Why not find out evidence that 'Injil' (singular) refers to the first four books of the Bible rather than wasting you time on this. I don't think your reputation is at stake here, is it?

Kobojunkie:
The very same gifts/authorities was given by Jesus Christ to all of His followers - Mark 16 vs 15 - 19.

All are called to do the same job and with the same Helper and power.

LegalWolf:
Hey Pretty Boy TenQ !!!,

It is annoying that I challenged your reputation, alleged that you are a morally reprehensible human not worthy of any engagement just because you are liar. Rather than struggle to clear your name, you have been silent. You think silence will save you? Really? Nah. I think you underestimate my will to chase you down the world just to show that you are a liar. That 'quote me well' you have been shouting up and down, I will learn it and make sure the world see you for who you are.

Our judges have not responded and I am not too sure that they are willing to take this noble task. You see I included NNTR (A christian and someone I had once engaged with and which ended badly) as the panel Judge. When you have solid evidence to back you up and you are confident of your logic, just like Daniel that was sent to the lion's den, one is confident of victory.

I really want to show the world you are liar and a despicable human. And I will give the chance to prove that I am a liar. But I want the pain to be slow and beautiful. I want to put you at the center of the pacific with the closest ship being 10,000 nautical miles away. Then sixfiguresmart will be a spectator and see the painful capsizing of his mentor.

I will keep scouting for judges or do you have anyone in mind?

LegalWolf:
LOL! A despicable, shameless, morally reprehensible human has the NERVE to talk. Why not find out evidence that 'Injil' (singular) refers to the first four books of the Bible rather than wasting you time on this. I don't think your reputation is at stake here, is it?

haekymbahd:
I told you the subject and preposition.... When you use God the Almighty is used as subject it changes the context coupled with the preposition on.....


Salah has no direct English equivalent word but takes its meaning based on context.. If you think pray is the direct equivalent of Salah in English that is your problem but know that google disagrees with you....

haekymbahd:
The subject and the preposition shows pray doesn't fit the context... Well you know more than google what do I know

Sixfiguresmart:
It's absurd. They are beginning to drop that claim. It no longer flies. Thanke to expository works like ours. I was shocked when Hakeem told me that the quran and hadiths were written by men. On top of that, they are fallible. That was brave a thing to say from him though. It was huge. For him to bring his guts to reckon that there are contents of fallibility in both the quran and the hadiths! Wow. That alone was rich to me.

haekymbahd:
Apart from the subject itself the preposition on shows pray doesn't fit the context of the verse you are mistranslating... But whatever rocks your boat

Thank God you know even google is not on your side now...

haekymbahd:
Ask prophet Google na why disturb Muslims and post the Google translate simple that is what you are told...

There is no English equivalent word for Salah it derive it's meaning based on context....

Praise, confer blessings, get close to, pray can be it's meaning based on context and pray doesn't fit the context maybe you should teach google...


Infact the preposition on (عَلَى) itself shows it can't be pray... You inserted to in the verse instead of on ...

Ola260:
Pls what if kind of dullard are u now.
U came up with a rubbish and still expect someone to explain to u.

Ola260:
So u know how to use google translator.
The google can translate the rubbish sentence u came up with too.
It will as well benefit your fellow dancers too today, so pls don’t forget to share with them

IrepChrist:
Four Signs that God Might be Calling You into Full-time Ministry


1. A Profound Impression from God

When considering whether or not you feel called to ministry, check to see the genuineness of your passion for the things of God whether you expect some benefits in return or just a genuine love for souls.

2. Confirmation from others:
I have a friend in the ministry whom I have known for years. He loves God and he is anointed he is not a lazy man. One thing I know is that, God will not put grace in you and expect you not to profit it for the furtherance of his kingdom. I told him to start from somewhere. Thank God he did.

If something similar has happened to you, and others have commented on your life in a way that seems to direct you toward the ministry, that’s a very good sign that you’re probably called to go into full time ministry.

3. Reoccurring Thoughts for Ministry
Sometimes God will put something in your mind and continue feeding it back into you until you decide to do something about it. This is actually a strategy God tells us to use in Luke 18, when he uses the parable of “The Persistent Widow”.

This is something that has happened to me, consistently, for the past two/three years. I just couldn’t stop thinking about ministry. It just kept popping into my head over and over again. Even after surrendering to God’s call, it’s still always in the back of my mind.

If ministry is something you can’t stop thinking about, it’s very likely God’s calling you to ministry.
If ministry is something you can’t stop thinking about, it’s very likely God’s calling you to ministry.


4. A Passion for the Job
The final indicator for a call to ministry is a deep-rooted passion for the type of ministry God’s calling you. That could be missional work, pastoral work, church administrative work, worship ministry, or any other position in the light of ministry leadership.

If this sounds like you, and you have a genuine love for what God is calling you to, that’s a strong indicator that you’re being called to full time ministry.

5. Visions and dreams:
I have had personal encounters in dreams and in those encounters I would see myself standing before multitude preaching the gospel and in some I will be laying hands on people and I see them receiving their deliverance. Though I am not into a full time ministry but I am actively involved. Your dreams are expression of what should be your realities sometimes. So please pay attention to your dreams and seek for God's direction.

Sixfiguresmart:
absolutely. They burn the words of their allah

Sixfiguresmart:
it is full of lies. concocted by a woman. see the bait and switch game islam is.
You were asking who arranged the quran. Here is the answer.

4707. It is related that Yusuf ibn Mahik said, "I was with 'A'isha, the Umm al-Mu'minin, when an Iraqi came and said, 'What kind of shroud is best?' She said, 'Bother you! How will it harm you?' He said, 'Umm al-Mu'minin, show me your copy of the Qur'an.' 'Why?' she asked. He said, 'In order that I might arrange the Qur'an according to it. It is recited out of its proper order.' 'A'isha said, 'What harm will there be to you whichever part you read first? The first to be revealed was a sura of the Mufassal in which the Garden and the Fire is mentioned.* When many people joined Islam, then the halal and haram were revealed. If the first thing to be revealed had been, 'Do not drink wine,' people would have said, 'We will never give up wine.' If it had been revealed. 'Do not fornicate,' they would have said, 'We will never give up fornication.' When I was still a young girl who played, it was revealed to Muhammad in Makka, "In fact the Hour is their promised appointment and the Hour is more disastrous and bitter!" (54:46) Surat al-Baqara (2) and Surat an-Nisa' (4) were revealed while I was with him.' Then she produced the copy of the Qur'an for him and dictated to him the order of the suras."

Ola260:
Your God and his followers praises the devil.
Can u pls explain this to me too