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Family › Re: My Mother's Friend Advised My Mother To Disown Me by TenQ: 10:05am On Nov 10, 2022
Messi1:
I can't just imagine a matured woman like my mother dishing out advice that it's better for my mom to disown me. My mother complained about my behavious to her friend that i can't cook and that my behaviours are punishable with death. The woman advised her to disown me.
Repent and make your mother proud of you all these yamayama advise will end permanently
Politics › Re: 2023: Analysis Of Six States With The Highest Registered Voters by TenQ: 10:03am On Nov 10, 2022
lhordspy:
Hearsay and propaganda. Like i said i live in the north. And the north stand with tinubu.
Okay. It's a game of time
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Christianity Man-made Religion?? by TenQ: 10:02am On Nov 10, 2022
KnownUnknown:
Personal? No. Just saying what you wrote describes religion infested Nigeria. Look around you and read your post again.
Did I mention any religion to you!?

Read your post again


It would be nice if everyone become HOPELESS and living just like animals. Eat, Grow, Reproduce and Die! What a beautiful life with no consequence of conscience!
Politics › Re: 2023: Analysis Of Six States With The Highest Registered Voters by TenQ: 9:24am On Nov 10, 2022
lhordspy:
You that lives in southeast is telling me that lives in the North how the voting pattern of here is.


Kai..m
I don't live in the South-East and I am not Igbo!

Have you noticed the daily defections from APC taking place in the North?
Politics › Re: 2023: Analysis Of Six States With The Highest Registered Voters by TenQ: 7:25am On Nov 10, 2022
DenreleDave:
Says another crying baby
Time always speak!
It's not about being emotional it is about REALITY on ground!
Politics › Re: 2023: Analysis Of Six States With The Highest Registered Voters by TenQ: 6:47am On Nov 10, 2022
lhordspy:
Last time i checked. We already have 2 northern governors out of the 6 rogue governors who pulled out their support of Atiku.

Give examples of the bigwig northerner APC that truly decamped to PDP
You probably don't live in the North! I am AFRAID for Tinubu: no doubt, he'll win in the South West, but the Northern voting population has abandoned him. As far as they are concerned, it is the Turn of ATIKU and not Tinubu.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Christianity Man-made Religion?? by TenQ: 6:44am On Nov 10, 2022
KnownUnknown:
Lmao. I could have sworn you are talking about religion infested Nigeria!!
I didn't know it could get so personally to you!
LOL!
Politics › Re: 2023: Analysis Of Six States With The Highest Registered Voters by TenQ: 11:21pm On Nov 09, 2022
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lhordspy:
Ahead of the 2023 general elections, analysis of the preliminary register reveals that six States of Lagos, Kano, Kaduna, Rivers, Katsina and Oyo have the highest registered voters.
It still hasn't dawn on you that Northern APC have decamped to PDP?
Tinubu has been abandoned a long time ago. They are doing on doing Taqqiya for him now
Christianity Etc › Re: I Regret Becoming An Athiest by TenQ: 9:24pm On Nov 09, 2022
LegalWolf:
The argument reproduced below:


And these points stated here:


Are all valid arguments. Although I am a Muslim, and would not want to delve extensively in subjective conversations like this, however, we must keep engaging delusional people like TenQ that their version of faith they so forceful push cannot stand the test of logic.

Again, while we share differ in opinion, I confess to the strength of your logic!
Sorry for my poor logic and Thank you.
At least my own role model is not one
1. Who is so debased as to covet and marry the only wife of his adopted son and thereafter abolished the law of adoption because people were grumbling.
2. Who is pedophilic and married a six year old girl so that he can perform despicable sexual acts on her.
3. Who is so treacherous to became the enemy of the same Christians who protected him while the Meccans sought to kill him while he had little power.
4. Who (or his Allah) claimed he doesn't know what will befall him or the Muslims who follow him and promised that all Muslims would enter the fire (only that allah will use christians to ransom them)
5. Who claimed he's a messanger of Allah, but he has the power to abrogate the laws of Allah
6. Who's picture of paradise is one that sounds exactly as satan would have tempted vile men. Brothels, Booze, Endless erection, several perpetual virgins,. ..


One can go on and on. No wonder, his people are the wildest in the whole world. If they are not ISIS, they would be Al-qeda, if not they are Bokoharam, if not they are LegalWolf (same character)

You can see why I apologize to you that I am not having your kind of Logic.


The OP spoke some heart touching words: he needs healing if you can not find helpful words for him, don't derail his thread.

Thanks!

No need to respond as I wouldn't join matter with you on this thread!
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Christianity Man-made Religion?? by TenQ: 8:52pm On Nov 09, 2022
Righthussle:
Religion is one hundred percent man made, it was made specifically to control the minds of the poor in the society and to give them fake hope.
It would be nice if everyone become HOPELESS and living just like animals. Eat, Grow, Reproduce and Die! What a beautiful life with no consequence of conscience!
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Christianity Man-made Religion?? by TenQ: 8:42pm On Nov 09, 2022
Ternistacle:
Is Christianity a man-made religion?
Is Christianity a man-made religion?

Christianity is a man-made religion. This is because all religion on earth is man-made.

There is no method or criteria to use in order to demonstrate the truth of any given religion (i.e., there theology). The reason is because the religions or theologies of earth are designed to be both unfalsifiable and unverifiable.

This is the reason for why there are so many conflicting religions or theologies in the world and why there are many branches within each religion. Religion is about faith and rationalization.

That is, first you accept the religion or the theology as true and after you attempt to find reasons to justify the truth of your religion or theology.

For example, Judaism and Christianity are inconsistent (e.g., God is one in person and in being vs. God is more than one in person but one in being). That is, if Judaism is true, Christianity is false but if Christianity is true, Judaism is false.

For example, Christianity and Christianity are inconsistent (e.g., Unitarian Christianity vs. Trinitarian Christianity). That is, if (U) Christianity is true, (T) Christianity is false but if (T) Christianity is true, (U) Christianity is false.

For example, Christianity and Islam are inconsistent (e.g., Jesus died for the sins of other vs. Jesus did not die for the sins of others). That is, if Christianity is true, Islam is false but if Islam is true, Christianity is false.

Religion is a tribal project and thus a man-made invention.

For example, the historical Jesus of Nazareth was a Jewish man who believed himself to be the messiah of the Jews (a person who was going to free Israel from the yoke of Rome). However, he failed to free Israel from the yoke of Rome and he was executed by Rome via crucifixion in order to make an example out of him.

This Jewish man was later made into a divine being. That is, a virgin born divine being. That is, a virgin born, dying and rising diving being. That is, a virgin born, dying and rising, sacrificial divine being. This single Jewish man become the second person of the God of the Jews that he worshiped prior to his death. (And so froth).

Studying the history of religion and of Christianity can help you understand why Christianity is in fact a man-made religion like any other religion on earth.

"When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land.” Desmond Tutu
What a wisdom!

Meaning:
We are all just random chemistry of meaningless existence: star dust or at best we live in matrix .

Bravo!!
Christianity Etc › Re: I Regret Becoming An Athiest by TenQ: 8:28pm On Nov 09, 2022
Jackanda1:
In 2014 my internet adventure and quest for knowledge exposed me to athiest ideas on nairaland. My consistency in digesting this ideas led me to resist God and his word.

Before then, i was born again and had experienced the spiritual, but some how, i started intepreting all of those as allucination and mental chemistry.

In my arogance, i took sides with man and the devil and rejected the giver of life. I can remember telling my Mum that God doesn't exist and she almost collapsed, that was how hard i fell.

Few years later, have had several spiritual attacks and demonic manifestation (that i would not discuss here) that has convinced me about the existence of the spiritual.

The point is that, i regret my actions and i wish to get back with God, but it seems difficult. My sin consciousness is death, the bible no longer makes sense, i have prayed and cried, but on the inside it feels dead and i know i have not been accepted.

I Know the Holy Spirit left me when i started resisting God. Is there hope?
The fact that you still have your conscience is an indication that you are not lost nor rejected by God. You spiritual fall has caused you massive wounds and it will take time and consistency for your healing.

It's like a man who has his leg bones shattered in an accident. He cannot expect to start running as of the past when he goes to see a doctor.

The most important thing is between you and Christ. A contrite and repentant heart ready to start all over as a baby.

You are not continuing your spiritual class from where you fell, you are demoted to a much lower class. It takes humility to accept where you are now and grow from there. You may be granted accelerated promotion (you never know).

Learnt to fight your spiritual battles as you have opened up yourself to the hordes of Satan and you need to flush out the infection.

I pray for grace for you. Trust the Lord Jesus: He understands every form of human weakness!

Luk 22:31-32:
"And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan has desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: But I have prayed for you, that your faith fail not: and when you are converted, strengthen your brothers."


I believe the prayers of those who love you is being answered!
When you are converted and fully healed, help others.

Shalom
Christianity Etc › Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 4:54pm On Nov 08, 2022
LegalWolf:
LOL! You have dropped several lies in just a couple of days...so which of your post did I edit and substitute? Why are you not heeding yhwh's instructions, do you want to perish? angry grin grin grin grin grin
I am done with you, you are a time waster. I've pasted the screenshots Mr LIAR!


You have no SHAME!


Mr Shameless LegalWolf,
You edited the post of TenQ and substituted your own words in place of his



Stop lieing, Unrepentant LIAR!

Please get off my mention at least on this thread: you reek of FALSEHOOD!


Case closed!
Christianity Etc › Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 3:43pm On Nov 08, 2022
LegalWolf:
LOL! I don't want you to perish pretty boy grin. I don't want you to incur yhwh's wrath and that is why I am offering you the opportunity to retract. You lied that I fabricated an evidence and I am asking you that are the premises (evidence) I referenced fabricated? . Why do you ALWAYS lie?



Now look at what I said:

(underline mine).

Does that look like an admission to you? What does the underline mean? CLEARLY I NOTICED YOU WAS LYING BUT DID NOT WANT TO TAKE YOU UP ON THAT AT THE TIME Was our engagement on:
1. Whether Muslims look for fulfilment of prophecy of the prophet in the book of John; or
2. Whether the book of john is that of divine creation?
3. Did I ever for once require convincing or disputed that Muslims did not look for prophecy in other books?

So why 1 would be your conclusion baffles me till this day! This is kindergarten logic TenQ and even a mor0n should not pursue this line of argument. I have always assumed you do not suffer any infirmity of the mind in any form but..............!!!!

Finally, I would not back off from your mentions. Not at all You were the one who mentioned me first in the very few times we engaged and so you must provide answers to my questions. UNLESS AND UNTILL YOU SHOW PROOF, I will keep pulling you out on this forum that you are a shameless, ignoble and morally bankrupt liar not worthy to be engaged. And that will extend to any conversation you have with anybody on any section.
You have no SHAME!


Mr Shameless LegalWolf,
Did you or did you not edit the post of TenQ and substituted your own words in place of his?
Your response should either be "Yes, I did!" or "No, I didn't!"



Unrepentant LIAR!

Please get off my mention: you reek of FALSEHOOD!
Your response Mr LIAR LegalWolf!

Christianity Etc › Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 2:31pm On Nov 08, 2022
LegalWolf:
LOL!

I once told sixfiguresmart that I hate engaging liars (like you both) because it is a rabbit hole. I mean, they cannot help it. They do not lie because it is in their interest BUT IT IS THEIR NATURE .

First off, in defending the indefensible, you are still lying again!!!!. You claim I fabricated evidence BUT THE EVIDENCE OF YOUR CLAIMS/ARGUMENTS ARE THE TWO PREMISES . Or are you saying you did not say/imply these two premises? Pretty boy grin LOL! you went to University for God sake and you of all people should know that in an argument, premises are the pieces of evidence (or reasons) to support a conclusion (the ultimate thing you are trying to prove or convince your audience). Did they know teach you this school? I have asked you repeatedly, what school did you finish from?



Secondly, let me remind you what our beloved Apostle Paul was alleged to have said (of course, purportedly 'inspired' by yhwh:

But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger ... all who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law ... Romans 2: 8 - 12. Pretty boy, grin Why reject the Truth and Lie? Or do you want to perish?
Mr Shameless LegalWolf,
Did you or did you not edit the post of TenQ and substituted your own words in place of his?
Your response should either be "Yes, I did!" or "No, I didn't!"



Unrepentant LIAR!

Please get off my mention: you reek of FALSEHOOD!
Your response Mr LIAR LegalWolf!

Family › Re: Marriage: My Mother Inlaw Calls My Wife Everyday Is It Proper? by TenQ: 12:19pm On Nov 08, 2022
Mide70:
Please I need your opinion on this issue.

Though before I got married I discovered my mother inlaw calls all her daughters both married and unmarried everyday (only 3 ladies no boys) and they fear her to the bone.

At times every morning and night just to talk to them but I believe when they get married they need privacy and respect but this is not the case for my mother-in-law and I detest such act.

Mind you I'm not against call or trying to break the bond but I believe this is marriage. I'm looking for a way to stop all that

I'm I wrong or right to take that step ?
Until you accept that your mother-in-law is also your mother your problem will know no end. If your mum choses to call you daily, would you scold her?

Fear not as long as you wife is keeping family secrets and plans private

Shalom
Christianity Etc › Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 5:59am On Nov 08, 2022
LegalWolf:
LOL! Remember Proverbs 16: 16 - 17 that one of the six things yhwh hates is a lying tongue... And a fundamental commandment is not to bear false witness. So, point out to my lie please!!! Our pretty boy, why are you lying? Do you want yhwh to detest you? embarassed
LOL
You've been bursted, no amount of tantrums will deliver you Mr LIAR LegalWolf: the champion of lies from Mohammed and his Allah.

It's not by repeating multitudes of words. You who is so SHAMELESS and could go so LOW to FABRICATE evidence you can use as Strawman arguments!?

Christianity Etc › Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 10:52pm On Nov 07, 2022
LegalWolf:
Proof?
The Proof of your lies is NOT hidden, I had ALREADY posted to you on this thread. Read if you are not blind.


Mr LegalWolf
If you are not of Shaitan, answer and stop hiding behind volumes of words.

I wonder why you think that volumes of words will free you from the quagmire you have fallen into.

RESPOND to the QUESTIONS if you are not of Shaitan!

Your kind of noise is what you get when you allow Muslims to escape answering Questions that would have solved major problems of comprehension along the road.


Islam and LIES is indistinguishable! The more reason you will not answer my question. It is NOT by noisemaking. It is about logically defending your position which is exposed with simple questions.



LegalWolf, I INSIST that you answer ALL these questions one by one.

PRELUDE:
The Qur'an agrees that
1. Jesus is a Man (Human and a Prophet)
2. Jesus is the Word of Allah (Kalimatullah)
3. Jesus is the Spirit of Allah (Ruhullah)



INITIAL QUESTIONS
Can you please explain HOW
1. Jesus is a Human being, the Spirit of Allah and the Word of Allah all at the same time?
2. If Jesus is human, where is His grave?
3. Is the Word of Allah is uncreated and eternal?
4. Is the Spirit of Allah uncreated and external?


ABOUT THE INJEEL
1. Is it true or is it false that the term Injeel predates Islam?
2. If the Arab Christians call the first four books of their Bible (Mathew, Mark, Luke and John) Injeel (Gospel) and the word Injeel predates Islam, what evidence do you have that Mohammed use the Word Injeel to mean something different from the usage of the Arab Christians?
3. Do Muslims have any shred of evidence to show that Jesus wrote any book?
(Jesus did ministry for only THREE years). If He did, where is it or its remaining fragments?
4. Does Allah know if the people of the book have more than three books namely Taurat, Zabur and Injeel as part of their scripture?
5. If the Books of the Jews and Christians were ALREADY corrupted, why would Allah instruct Mohammed to confirm the Quran from the People of the Book.
6. If the Books of the Jews and Christians were just THREE, why would Allah instruct Mohammed to confirm the Quran from the People of the Book and not specify to them which book?
7. What name did your prophet call the BOOK of the Christians? Did he have any other name apart from Injeel and What name does the Qur'an give to the books of Moses?


ABOUT THE BIBLE
8. I gave a challenge:
Can you find me Islamic/Muslim Sources that EMPHATICALLY DENY that Muhammad is Prophesied by Jesus from the book of John. Failure to find examples is a prove that you tell a lie with your answer.
9. I then followed up with a PERSONAL Question to You LegalWolf
Allah says in the Quran that Mohammed's name is found written in the books of the Jews and Christians (Quran 7:157)
a. Is this a TRUE or FALSE statement by Allah?
b. If the above is TRUE, LegalWolf, where can the reference to Mohammed be found in the books of the Christians?
c. If the Mohammed is NOT Referenced by the books of the Christians, did Allah tell a lie?

10. Is the Torah just one BOOK or a compilation of Books?
My Questions again:
11. Can you prove that the Scriptures Allah was referring to in the Quran had gone into extinction or Allah believed that the books were still with the Jews and Christians?
12. If the books were lost, why would Allah himself give the title "People of the Book" to Jews and Christians?
13. Did your prophet Muhammad make judgement of stoning an adulteress by asking the Jews to refer to the Torah (remember when a Jew covered the word stoning in the Torah...LOL!)?


All these Questions are NOT new: but you avoided answering.


Make the answers short please!
Christianity Etc › Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 10:23pm On Nov 07, 2022
LegalWolf:
Although he may be a war criminal, yhwh bears me witness that I have always been after the truth and not winning argument. If I say you lie, the evidence is there.

- Did you not claim injil is ALL the books of the Christians?

-Did you not contradict yourself that it is a term used by Arab Christians to refer to their first four books? So which lie have I told?

you made two false claims that are untrue with the intent to deceive!!!! . I’ll pursue you all over this forum until you acknowledge you are a shameless, ignoble, morally bankrupt being not worthy to be engaged.

Cc: NNTR
sixfiguresmart
LIAR!
Christianity Etc › Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 9:53pm On Nov 07, 2022
LegalWolf:
Your emotional outbursts won’t help you, my cute little pretty boy grin. You keep claiming I have been bursted. Pretty boy grin just one credible evidence would shut me up. I was not the one who said Injil is ALL the books of the Christians AND the first four books of the Christians at the same time.

You did and having given you opportunity to correct yourself, you still keep insisting on your lies! Are you here to win an argument of you are after the truth? Or you are selective with the Truth to believe?

Is the book of John of divine creation or not? Neither head or tail of your answer we do not know. You want to use reference to Injil to strengthen your claim shameless liar !

Bring credible evidence that Injil is ALL the Christians and you’re yarning dust. Bring evidence that it is the first four books of Arab Christians and you cannot. Can’t you Christians do without lying?

cc: sixfiguresmart
LegalWolf:
LOL!

Pretty boy grin. It’s not by shouting Liar up and down like a senseless bulldog. I call you a LIAR and if I’m asked for my evidence, I will say:

1. You said that Injil is ALL the books of the Christians.

2. When logic failed, you claimed the first four books (not book) of the Arab Christians is Injil (Gospel) .

3. These two statements cannot be true at the same time. In fact both are false. .

4. Even the reference you provided translated Injil as Any of the Four books… not the first four books as you shamelessly lied.

My Pretty boy TenQ, is all that have said not true? Are your claims in 1 and 2 not false? So why are you lying? Are you not after the Truth and not to win an argument again?
With clear EVIDENCES and to your face I TenQ have DISPLAYED your lies and completly EXPOSED your fabrications.

LegalWolf, Your tantrums will not deliver you. You are finished completly!
UNREPENTANT CHRONIC LIAR!


If you have no further words to say, kindly get OFF my mention. LegalWolf, You are a confirmed Liar and thus, I can only ask God to help you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 7:48pm On Nov 07, 2022
LegalWolf:
PART ONE OF TWO
Pretty Boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!! Welcome back TenQ. We have missed you. And how is your rapist defending lawyer friend ? Hope you guys still discuss about other rape cases and how client matters? Huh? Now to the meat of the matter.

You have essentially done three things, in my opinion. Rambled to save your reputation as a liar with weak evidence, challenged my reputation (without proof) and rehashed a couple of questions (some of which you lied you have asked me before, others I have answered while others are completely irrelevant to our discussion). I will address them.

YOUR REPUTATION

These were your words pretty boy grin

(underline mine).

Further you said:

(underline mine)

Both statements cannot be true at the same time, pretty boy grin. In fact, both statements are untrue and you know it. This is my evidence and that makes it intentional that you are a liar! Now let us examine the piece of evidence you cited.



First of, you have basically shot yourself in the foot. Although the 'gospel' in English is not what we are debating. However, and as you correctly cited, the Gospel (which is the direct translation is injil in Arabic) is ANY of the four biblical narratives TenQ. Key word here is ANY not the FIRST FOUR BOOKS or ALL THE BOOKS. According to your sources, Injil is any of four books. Any means one of not ALL of. You went to University Mr. TenQ and I should not be teaching this. Therefore, YOU LIED BY ASSERTING AS A FACT THAT INJIL IS A TERM FOR THE FIRST FOUR BOOKS OF ARAB CHRISTIAN'S BIBLE

On the second witness (i.e., website of crescent project) Barrister TenQ your evidence are contradictory. One of your sources claims Injil is any of four books, the other made an outlandish claim that it is what the Christians know as the New Testament. So one of it must be false and CERTAINLY it is the Crescent Project. The reason is because it is not as authoritative as Cambridge I cited, neither is it a dictionary. Also, it is a review (or probably summary) of a book we have not read. So, why would you be citing hearsay (opinion by someone summarizing a book you have not read yourself) as authoritative source for Injil?

Summary
- You made a claim that Injil is ALL the books of the Christians. I acknowledge you cited an outlandish reference (which called Injil the New Testament) for this which another reference of your contradicts.

- You made a claim that Injil is a term for the first four books of the Christians. You HAVE NOT PROVIDED A SINGLE REFERENCE FOR THIS!!!!. IN FACT, YOUR REFERENCE UNEQUIVOCALLY states that it is ANY of the four gospels. . Therefore, Injil is a book/gospel and not the New Testament.

- Both statements are lies which you know. INJIL IS NEITHER THE NEW TESTAMENT NOR THE FIRST FOUR BOOKS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT BUT JUST A BOOK. SO WHY ARE YOU LYING?
This is not a retrial as you are finished! Mr LIAR, you can't wriggle out: you've been caught in your own web of lies and misinformation.

It is a done deal that you've been busted to your face!
You who follow a worthless and shameless man who coveted and took the young wife of his adopted son by the urging of your Allah!


As I see you have no better things to say, go hang your Legal Wigs in SHAME!
Christianity Etc › Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 7:41pm On Nov 07, 2022
LegalWolf:
PART TWO OF TWO.

You have been asking me to answer your questions. yhwh bears me with witness that I will answer your questions. Each and everyone of them. But not when your reputation at stake TenQ. Are these not the questions?

TenQ.
LOL! I will give you a one liner or at most three liners to it. Everyone of them. But your character is in question TenQ. Remember you said something along the line that religion is everything man do to please God! Is your god yhwh please with you lying to win an argument? If you can lie in one breadth that injeel is All the Books of the Christian and in another, claim it is the first four books of the christian, what gives us the confidence you would not lie again?
Shut up Mr LegalWolf or answer the questions, you have no iota of shame. Like Prophet like followers. You reek of LIES as you are an unrepentant LIAR!
Health › Re: I Saved An Accident Victim's Life And I'm Proud Of It by TenQ: 6:28am On Nov 07, 2022
Centurion101:
I write this story to encourage people to always help if they are in a position to do so, especially is the situation is dire. What goes around comes around and you might just find yourself in a situation where you Will need help from strangers and hope they help you too.
We aren't animals, we all have the spirit of God in us: created to do good. Please keep it up.
The Samaritan man did exactly the same and he was commended above the religious folks who didn't lift a hand to help.
Christianity Etc › Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 6:11am On Nov 07, 2022
Mr LegalWolf
If you are not of Shaitan, answer and stop hiding behind volumes of words.

I wonder why you think that volumes of words will free you from the quagmire you have fallen into.

RESPOND to the QUESTIONS if you are not of Shaitan!

Your kind of noise is what you get when you allow Muslims to escape answering Questions that would have solved major problems of comprehension along the road.


Islam and LIES is indistinguishable! The more reason you will not answer my question. It is NOT by noisemaking. It is about logically defending your position which is exposed with simple questions.



LegalWolf, I INSIST that you answer ALL these questions one by one.

PRELUDE:
The Qur'an agrees that
1. Jesus is a Man (Human and a Prophet)
2. Jesus is the Word of Allah (Kalimatullah)
3. Jesus is the Spirit of Allah (Ruhullah)



INITIAL QUESTIONS
Can you please explain HOW
1. Jesus is a Human being, the Spirit of Allah and the Word of Allah all at the same time?
2. If Jesus is human, where is His grave?
3. Is the Word of Allah is uncreated and eternal?
4. Is the Spirit of Allah uncreated and external?


ABOUT THE INJEEL
1. Is it true or is it false that the term Injeel predates Islam?
2. If the Arab Christians call the first four books of their Bible (Mathew, Mark, Luke and John) Injeel (Gospel) and the word Injeel predates Islam, what evidence do you have that Mohammed use the Word Injeel to mean something different from the usage of the Arab Christians?
3. Do Muslims have any shred of evidence to show that Jesus wrote any book?
(Jesus did ministry for only THREE years). If He did, where is it or its remaining fragments?
4. Does Allah know if the people of the book have more than three books namely Taurat, Zabur and Injeel as part of their scripture?
5. If the Books of the Jews and Christians were ALREADY corrupted, why would Allah instruct Mohammed to confirm the Quran from the People of the Book.
6. If the Books of the Jews and Christians were just THREE, why would Allah instruct Mohammed to confirm the Quran from the People of the Book and not specify to them which book?
7. What name did your prophet call the BOOK of the Christians? Did he have any other name apart from Injeel and What name does the Qur'an give to the books of Moses?


ABOUT THE BIBLE
8. I gave a challenge:
Can you find me Islamic/Muslim Sources that EMPHATICALLY DENY that Muhammad is Prophesied by Jesus from the book of John. Failure to find examples is a prove that you tell a lie with your answer.
9. I then followed up with a PERSONAL Question to You LegalWolf
Allah says in the Quran that Mohammed's name is found written in the books of the Jews and Christians (Quran 7:157)
a. Is this a TRUE or FALSE statement by Allah?
b. If the above is TRUE, LegalWolf, where can the reference to Mohammed be found in the books of the Christians?
c. If the Mohammed is NOT Referenced by the books of the Christians, did Allah tell a lie?

10. Is the Torah just one BOOK or a compilation of Books?
My Questions again:
11. Can you prove that the Scriptures Allah was referring to in the Quran had gone into extinction or Allah believed that the books were still with the Jews and Christians?
12. If the books were lost, why would Allah himself give the title "People of the Book" to Jews and Christians?
13. Did your prophet Muhammad make judgement of stoning an adulteress by asking the Jews to refer to the Torah (remember when a Jew covered the word stoning in the Torah...LOL!)?


All these Questions are NOT new: but you avoided answering.


Make the answers short please!
Christianity Etc › Re: When A Christian Questions An Ex-christian by TenQ: 6:02am On Nov 07, 2022
Sorry for the late response. Nairaland antispam bots in action.

AntiChristian:
Seems you just learnt logic. You'll come to a thread with a different topic and start your own topic under it. What kind of logic is that?

There's no contradictory statement in Islam. We have the explanations. Whoever is ignorant and is waiting for a non existent holy ghost to teach him will be ignorant forever!

Same nonsense! But we know Allah is not one and three like your Gods.

He can't die like your God.

He is too great to be born vaginally like you to become a human and start suffering like an animal!

He is too great to require a parent to protect and feed him.

Allah does not arose like a drunken warrior as described in psalm. All the best names and attributes are his!
Starting a new topic on the wonderful character of Mohammed especially when just picking one of several is an injustice to Islam. It is a case of He who lives in a glass house throwing stones.... It's not worth starting a new topic EXCEPT you want one. LOL!

No contradictory statements in the Qur'an!? Don't just go there. By Allah, a single contradiction is enough to know if the Quran is satanic or not.

Of course Allah is ONE OF many others. If Allah is the best Creator, who are the other Allahs?
From YOUR Qur'an

Qur'an 23:14
Then fashioned We the drop a clot, then fashioned We the clot a little lump, then fashioned We the little lump bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced it as another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of creators!


Let me ignore the ignorance of biology of Allah so that we won't digress. At least we know that according to Allah, he is the best of the many creators!


Qur'an 37:125
Will ye cry unto Baal and forsake the Best of creators, ... ?


If not for Allah, we wouldn't know that Baal is among the creators BUT Allah is better than him.


AntiChristian:
At least we know Allah is just one!
Exactly like satan!

Do you not know that Satan is also ONE person?

Do you mind if I ask you a Question from the Hadiths on the oneness of Allah? Because the hadith seem to show that Allah is at least TWO!

Thank you for your audience.
Christianity Etc › Re: When A Christian Questions An Ex-christian by TenQ:
Congratulations @Got a role in the UK and trying to complete my tier-II visa.
But why not in Afghanistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia ...LOL!

Congrats once again. I pray for more openings for you but most especially that at the end of this world, you will not discover that you've been Deceived!

LegalWolf:
Pretty Boy grin grin grin

I sure have not forgotten our last conversation. Got a role in the UK and trying to complete my tier-II visa. Also finalizing all my outstanding matters at the office. As you may tell, I have not had time to post as that is really taking my time. I know you have missed me.... cheesy cheesy and I have missed you and sixfiguresmart too. grin.. Our pretty boy!!!

To the matter at hand, why should I even bother to explain to you when you are a liar?



Did I get quoting you correctly? If I did, this is the best thing to ever happen to me as I will go ahead and demonstrate why you are an ignoble, morally bankrupt and despicable liar and why no one should ever trust you!
Is it untrue that:
Any prophet who coveted and married the wife of his adopted Son and thereafter cancelled the law of adoption is a Messanger of Satan!?
Christianity Etc › Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 5:28am On Nov 07, 2022
[quote author=gaskiyamagana post=118154080][/quote]If you are interested, you friend had been bursted first for lies and secondly his questions had been answered of you care to know the truth

https://www.nairaland.com/7392236/trinity-islam-muslims-cannot-explain/12#117955738
Christianity Etc › Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 5:27am On Nov 07, 2022
Your TWO and THREE are essentially the same thing.

I had posted the response before as you don't read.

I'll post it here again!

LegalWolf:
PART TWO OF THREE

Is Injeel ALL the Books of the Christians
Remember, the pretty boy asked me for the meaning of Injil and asked me cite references. This is what I told him:



The second link I shared from Cambridge translates injil as one of the four books of the Christians and not ALL the books of the Christians. Same thing with the other Arabic dictionary. In subsequent posts (which I do not want to bore you with), I provided link to an Arabic Quran which translated Injil to Gospel. All these were pointed out to TenQ but guess what he said:



LOL! You can see the dumb logic pervasive in his argument. When I pressed him further, and that what he intends to ask me if I had told him the answer is irrelevant. He has asked me a question and I have given him an answer with references. To my knowledge, he has not said Cambridge dictionary is wrong or the Arabic bible I provided translating Injil to 'gospel' is wrong. So, he should concede that my references are authoritative. (Of course, every litigation lawyer who knows his onions are clear on what exactly I want to do there grin). Now hear what our pretty boy said:

(underline mine)

You will notice that Injil is not more ALL the books of the Christians but the first four books. LOL! But in logical terms, we do not have an idea which of the first four books. However, down that same post, he gave us a hint when he posed the following question:

. (underline mine)

Now we are clear on the first four books that:
a. Is a Term
b. (this term called Injeel is) used by Arab Christians;
c. For the first four books of their bible (which is Mark, Matthew, Luke and John).

AGAIN, this is a lie. Please help me beg TenQ to just cite one reference where the underline quote is true. Arab Christians cannot call ALL their Books and the First Four of their Books Injil at the same time. That contradicts commonsense TenQ. He has responded to my posts here:

and
.

Readers could go ahead and check these posts but I reckon it is meaningless to the meaning of Injil and whether it is a book or compilation of books. But wait, TenQ I am not too sure as I think you have modified your answer. There were some points you made that you clearly shot yourself on the foot but cannot find it.


Summary

- Till date, pretty boy has not faulted Cambridge Dictionary's interpretation of Injil as one of the four books of Christians.
- Till date, he has not shown evidence that Injil is a Term for the first four books of Arab Christians
- Pretty boy claims Injil is All the books of the Christians. This is false! The Acts of Apostles, the Epistles to the Hebrew and the other Pauline Epistles are not 'Injil'
- Pretty boy said that the first four books (not book) of Arab Christians is called Injil (Gospel) [not gospels!] and that is clearly false as well.
- Both statements cannot be true at the same time. But they can be false and each of them is false.

cc: Ya Ikhwan (at copied) I just want to copy you all to know the kind of characters and shameless person you are engaging with!
AntiChristian
Fawaz050
Haekymbahd
gaskiyamagana


Spectators:
NNTR
Sixfiguresmart
LegalWolf:
PART THREE OF THREE

Finally, all I need to show here is that TenQ has the intent to deceive with his false statement. Please remember that the context of our conversation is whether the Book of John (and in extension, the NT) is of divine creation. If I can prove that Injil is a gospel, and not a compilation of books, the implication that follows is:
- The Quran made reference to Injil
- Unlike the Torah, Injil is a book
- The book of John is just one book, so also is Matthew, Luke, and Mark
- If we accept the book of John as Injil, then automatically, the other three cannot be Injil.
- In any event, the NT cannot be the Injil God asked us to believe in.

But on the other hand, if TenQ can show that Injil is used by Arab Christians pre-islam to refer to ALL their books or the first four of their books, his claims is strengthened.

However, I did tell him before he made the assertion that Injil translates as Gospel and even offered him the opportunity to backtrack. I made this repeatedly on several occasions and he still carried on with his lies. Moreover, he always cite references to sources (including Quran and hadith) but he did not when he made those two lies. And even at that, we are still begging him to show us clearly just one authoritative references for his two lies. This clearly shows an intent to deceive me in order to strengthen his argument.

Until he shows us that Injil (not its plural form) is a term used by Arab Christians for their first four books (not book) or ALL their books (not book). then he is an ignoble, shameless and worthless liar that you should not bother to engage.

He has made references to Torah being five books. I have never responded to that Since:
1. It is my opinion that he is incompetent on Judaism.
2. And even if he is not, Torah is not in issue/dispute here. You are alleging that the book of John (not Torah or any of the 5 books of Torah) and NT is of divine creation. So on what basis should I be discussing Torah which is irrelevant to the conversation?

When he cited the hadith of the prophet enforcing the Torah against a Jew (not Muslim), I did not respond to that. That is irrelevant to the discourse!

There are other places he has lied and when I have the time, I will pull that up.

cc: Ya Ikhwan (at copied) I just want to copy you all to know the kind of characters and shameless person you are engaging with!
AntiChristian
Fawaz050
Haekymbahd
gaskiyamagana


Spectators:
NNTR
Sixfiguresmart
Here posted again Mr UNREPENTANT LIAR!


https://www.nairaland.com/7392236/trinity-islam-muslims-cannot-explain/12#117955738
Christianity Etc › Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 5:26am On Nov 07, 2022
PART THREE
LegalWolf:
Hey our Pretty Boy TenQgrin grin grin (for those I mention, I enjoy calling this guy pretty as I think he is actually pretty. LOL!)

PART ONE OF THREE

My purpose in this thread is a very simple one - to irrefutably show that our pretty handsome boy called TenQ is nothing but a shameless, ignoble, morally bankrupt and despicable LIAR and not worthy to be interacted with. Let me explain:

PRELUDE
The context is a very long one and I won't want to bore you all with details. To my mind, it may be necessary BUT not sufficient to prove that our pretty boy is a liar. In other words, it is okay to know the context but not too fundamental. The key points to bear in mind are:
a. I have insinuated in one of our previous arguments that the book of John (and the entire New Testament) can NEVER be a product of Divine Being (or even intelligent human). In fact, that is the immediate context to our current engagement.

b. Pretty boy claims otherwise. He has made copious references to the Quran where Allah (SWT) enjoined us to believe in the scriptures revealed before the Quran and specifically to Injil and the Torah. He has also cited an hadith where the prophet (pbuh) enforced the Torah.

c. These Quranic verses he quoted, I did not dispute. But I assert that the correct translation of Injil is 'Gospel' (not Gospels). This is very fundamental to know as it clearly shows how dubious our pretty boy is.

d. It goes without saying that if Injil is correctly translated as 'Gospel' (one book), and the New Testament is a collection of Gospels (because in truth, it is made up of 4 Gospels, some incoherently and poorly articulated epistles and the Acts of the apostles), THEN THE NEW TESTAMENT CAN NEVER BE THE INJIL ALLAH ENJOINED MUSLIMS TO HAVE FAITH IN' .

e. This is just pure logic, a subject matter our pretty boy apparently struggles to grasp.

SETTING OUT THE ARGUMENT

This is where it gets interesting. Pretty boy asked me the following:



Down the same argument, he followed it with the following question and assertions.

(underlined mine).

Please you all remember that our pretty boy TenQ grin claims Injeel is ALL the books of the Christians. Not One, Not Four but All the Books of the Christians.

DID PRETTY BOY SHAMELESS LIED ?

But pretty boy's statement cannot be true. And as I will point out repeatedly in my next post (quoting myself this time and one or two references to pretty boy grin).

Let me remind us the definition of a lie which goes thus:

'to say or write something that is not true in order to deceive someone'. Reference - https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/lie
In order words, to tell a lie,
a. You must have said something which is untrue; and
b. There is an intent to deceive someone.

I will prove before heaven and earth that these two are clearly present and pretty boy loves lying. And he is shameless at it!

cc: Ya Ikhwan (at copied) I just want to copy you all to know the kind of characters and shameless person you are engaging with!
AntiChristian
Fawaz050
Haekymbahd
gaskiyamagana


Spectators:
NNTR
Sixfiguresmart
For those interested in the full TRUTH where LEGALWOLF was proved with EVIDENCES of LIEING (He's now struggling by looking for nonexistent lies by TenQ).



3. https://www.nairaland.com/7392236/trinity-islam-muslims-cannot-explain/12#117954751

4. https://www.nairaland.com/7392236/trinity-islam-muslims-cannot-explain/12#117954768
Christianity Etc › Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 5:24am On Nov 07, 2022
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Christianity Etc › Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 5:19am On Nov 07, 2022
PART TWO

LegalWolf:
PART THREE OF THREE

Finally, all I need to show here is that TenQ has the intent to deceive with his false statement. Please remember that the context of our conversation is whether the Book of John (and in extension, the NT) is of divine creation. If I can prove that Injil is a gospel, and not a compilation of books, the implication that follows is:
- The Quran made reference to Injil
- Unlike the Torah, Injil is a book
- The book of John is just one book, so also is Matthew, Luke, and Mark
- If we accept the book of John as Injil, then automatically, the other three cannot be Injil.
- In any event, the NT cannot be the Injil God asked us to believe in.

But on the other hand, if TenQ can show that Injil is used by Arab Christians pre-islam to refer to ALL their books or the first four of their books, his claims is strengthened.

However, I did tell him before he made the assertion that Injil translates as Gospel and even offered him the opportunity to backtrack. I made this repeatedly on several occasions and he still carried on with his lies. Moreover, he always cite references to sources (including Quran and hadith) but he did not when he made those two lies. And even at that, we are still begging him to show us clearly just one authoritative references for his two lies. This clearly shows an intent to deceive me in order to strengthen his argument.

Until he shows us that Injil (not its plural form) is a term used by Arab Christians for their first four books (not book) or ALL their books (not book). then he is an ignoble, shameless and worthless liar that you should not bother to engage.

He has made references to Torah being five books. I have never responded to that Since:
1. It is my opinion that he is incompetent on Judaism.
2. And even if he is not, Torah is not in issue/dispute here. You are alleging that the book of John (not Torah or any of the 5 books of Torah) and NT is of divine creation. So on what basis should I be discussing Torah which is irrelevant to the conversation?

When he cited the hadith of the prophet enforcing the Torah against a Jew (not Muslim), I did not respond to that. That is irrelevant to the discourse!

There are other places he has lied and when I have the time, I will pull that up.

cc: Ya Ikhwan (at copied) I just want to copy you all to know the kind of characters and shameless person you are engaging with!
AntiChristian
Fawaz050
Haekymbahd
gaskiyamagana


Spectators:
NNTR
Sixfiguresmart
For those interested in the full TRUTH where LEGALWOLF was proved with EVIDENCES of LIEING (He's now struggling by looking for nonexistent lies by TenQ).

1. https://www.nairaland.com/7392236/trinity-islam-muslims-cannot-explain/12#117952248

2. https://www.nairaland.com/7392236/trinity-islam-muslims-cannot-explain/12#117952256
Christianity Etc › Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 5:17am On Nov 07, 2022
Got banned again because of References, so I break this into THREE.

PART ONE


All these to AVOID answering QUESTIONS I asked you in the cause of our discussion.

I will make it simple and short for you.


The LIES (ACCORDING TO LEGALWOLF) THAT TENQ MADE!?

"Al-Injeel is Arabic for the Book of Jesus, or what Christians call the New Testament. "

https://www.crescentproject.org/blog/istheinjeelcorrupted



Here is an Islamic website written by Muslims for Muslims like LegalWolf.

The word ‘gospel’ is derived from the Anglo-Saxon term ‘god-spell’, meaning ‘good story’, a rendering of the Latin ‘evangelium’ and the Greek ‘euangelion’ (Arabic; Injil), meaning ‘good news’ or “good telling”. The 73 or 66 books of Bible include four Gospels. The Gospel, is any of four biblical narratives covering the life, the person, death (according to Christian belief) and the teachings of Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him), as he was remembered by the Christian community.

https://salaamone.com/theology/guidance/sacred-scriptures/bible/new-testament/gospels/


LegalWolf:
Hey our Pretty Boy TenQgrin grin grin (for those I mention, I enjoy calling this guy pretty as I think he is actually pretty. LOL!)

PART ONE OF THREE

My purpose in this thread is a very simple one - to irrefutably show that our pretty handsome boy called TenQ is nothing but a shameless, ignoble, morally bankrupt and despicable LIAR and not worthy to be interacted with. Let me explain:

PRELUDE
The context is a very long one and I won't want to bore you all with details. To my mind, it may be necessary BUT not sufficient to prove that our pretty boy is a liar. In other words, it is okay to know the context but not too fundamental. The key points to bear in mind are:
a. I have insinuated in one of our previous arguments that the book of John (and the entire New Testament) can NEVER be a product of Divine Being (or even intelligent human). In fact, that is the immediate context to our current engagement.

b. Pretty boy claims otherwise. He has made copious references to the Quran where Allah (SWT) enjoined us to believe in the scriptures revealed before the Quran and specifically to Injil and the Torah. He has also cited an hadith where the prophet (pbuh) enforced the Torah.

c. These Quranic verses he quoted, I did not dispute. But I assert that the correct translation of Injil is 'Gospel' (not Gospels). This is very fundamental to know as it clearly shows how dubious our pretty boy is.

d. It goes without saying that if Injil is correctly translated as 'Gospel' (one book), and the New Testament is a collection of Gospels (because in truth, it is made up of 4 Gospels, some incoherently and poorly articulated epistles and the Acts of the apostles), THEN THE NEW TESTAMENT CAN NEVER BE THE INJIL ALLAH ENJOINED MUSLIMS TO HAVE FAITH IN' .

e. This is just pure logic, a subject matter our pretty boy apparently struggles to grasp.

SETTING OUT THE ARGUMENT

This is where it gets interesting. Pretty boy asked me the following:



Down the same argument, he followed it with the following question and assertions.

(underlined mine).

Please you all remember that our pretty boy TenQ grin claims Injeel is ALL the books of the Christians. Not One, Not Four but All the Books of the Christians.

DID PRETTY BOY SHAMELESS LIED ?

But pretty boy's statement cannot be true. And as I will point out repeatedly in my next post (quoting myself this time and one or two references to pretty boy grin).

Let me remind us the definition of a lie which goes thus:

'to say or write something that is not true in order to deceive someone'. Reference - https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/lie
In order words, to tell a lie,
a. You must have said something which is untrue; and
b. There is an intent to deceive someone.

I will prove before heaven and earth that these two are clearly present and pretty boy loves lying. And he is shameless at it!

cc: Ya Ikhwan (at copied) I just want to copy you all to know the kind of characters and shameless person you are engaging with!
AntiChristian
Fawaz050
Haekymbahd
gaskiyamagana


Spectators:
NNTR
Sixfiguresmart
So surprised that this was the magnificent lie TenQ told!?
You are clutching on straws after you got bursted of telling several LIES like your father the devil.

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