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Christianity Etc › Re: If Allah Is NOT Yahweh, All Muslims Are In Trouble by TenQ(op): 6:29pm On Jul 18, 2022

Dtruthspeaker:
They have seen and heard about The Way, but there is nothing any one can do about them walking in it.

That is exclusively in their hands.

The spirit of Islam and it's bondage need a high dose of TRUTH before it loses its hold. One by one, they will get to hear the truth.
Without lies and deception, Islam dies!

Christianity Etc › Re: If Allah Is NOT Yahweh, All Muslims Are In Trouble by TenQ(op): 6:25pm On Jul 18, 2022

AntiChristian:
Subtle diversion. This is nonsensically unrelated to the thread.

Your Bible translators should have written Yahweh in Arabic/Hausa without using Allah at all.

You're a typical example of an hypocrite typing one Allah and another allah as if that changes anything!

Arabic get small or capital letters?

As Jews and Christians, we also refer to the Creator by any of His titles like ELOHIM, Eloha (Allah), Adonai.

So, Arabic bibles can use the title Allah for the Creator! The question is WHICH Allah (Deity) you refer to!
The Deity or Allah of the Arab Christians is a Trinity! Is the Allah of the Muslims Trinity!?

The Deity or Allah of the Arab Christians loves Israel with an everlasting Love. Does the Allah of the Muslims love Israel!?

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Christianity Etc › Re: If Allah Is NOT Yahweh, All Muslims Are In Trouble by TenQ(op): 6:16pm On Jul 18, 2022

haekymbahd:
Why was he respondingto it simple

Because Elohim is a TITLE like King, President, Daddy, Chairman etc.

I know the name of my Father and when I call him Dad or Father or Daddy he responds because he knows I am referring to him.

Therefore God responds to the title ELOHIM (Deity), but there are thousands of Elohim. What is the name of your own Deity? The name of the Deity of the Christians and Jews is Yahweh!

You may call your Father Daddy and I also call my father Daddy: it doesn't mean we share the same father

Is the name of your own Deity Yahweh!?
If it isn't, it's a big lie that we worship the same Deity!

Christianity Etc › Re: If Allah Is NOT Yahweh, All Muslims Are In Trouble by TenQ(op): 6:06pm On Jul 18, 2022

haekymbahd:
Do you surrender to God Almighty (ALMIGHTY ALLAH)?

I do not surrender nor submit to Islamic or Mohammed's Allah.
I submit to the Elohim of the Jews and Christians whose name is Yahweh!

Even if you call your Father Papa and I also call my Father Papa: the truth is that our Fathers are different

Every body have their own president. Joe Biden or Vladimir Putin may be Presidents but they are NOT my President. My President is Muhammadu Buhari and before him was Goodluck Jonathan.

It is a falacy for the name of my President to be "President"!

Christianity Etc › Re: If Allah Is NOT Yahweh, All Muslims Are In Trouble by TenQ(op): 5:58pm On Jul 18, 2022

haekymbahd:
be lieing to your self no where did God called himself Jehovah infact the letter J was not part of the Hebrew letters

Why not ask Jehovah why he was responding to the name God Almighty isn't he sharing the name with idols..

Exodus 6 vs 3
King James Bible
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Lack of comprehension of simple English is affecting you.

Exo 6:3:
"And I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name YAHWEH was I not known to them."

What is the difference between
BY THE NAME and BY MY NAME ?

Let me rephrase so that you can understand

My children call me by the name Daddy but by my name TenQ , they did not know me till they clocked seven years old!

As long as Allah is NOT Yahweh, Islam is using a Taqqiyya for Christians and Jews. Of course Allah is the best Deceiver!

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Christianity Etc › Re: If Allah Is NOT Yahweh, All Muslims Are In Trouble by TenQ(op): 5:48pm On Jul 18, 2022

haekymbahd:
Do you surrender to God Almighty (ALMIGHTY ALLAH)?

What if Yahwe is not real name of God cos the vowels In YHWH as been missing for some time now and no one know the real name of God.

Ask yourself what if Jehovah is not the name of God?

Is Jehovah even a proper name of God or human derived name of God?

The question is what name does the prophets of old from Moses call God the Creator ?

Secondly, the Qur'an validates the scriptures of the Jews and Christians that call God Yahweh?

Thirdly, even your Allah (knowingly or ignorantly) gave people names with the prefix or suffix Yah (from Yahweh) in the Qur'an!

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Christianity Etc › Re: If Allah Is NOT Yahweh, All Muslims Are In Trouble by TenQ(op): 5:42pm On Jul 18, 2022

Dtruthspeaker:
We all know good and evil, life and death, and can choose whichever we want, so there truly is not much of a problem.

Of course but how can they be saved unless someone show them the way!

Christianity Etc › Re: If Allah Is NOT Yahweh, All Muslims Are In Trouble by TenQ(op): 4:35pm On Jul 18, 2022

haekymbahd:
we Muslims are not complaining. To you is your religion to us is ours..
Even Yahwe said he appeared to Abraham by the name God Almighty..

Exodus 6 vs 3
King James Bible
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Exodus 6:3 is correct. As of the time of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, they didn't know God as Yahweh simply because they just knew God as the Creator.

However, since the time of Moses ALL the prophets of God had known God by His proper name Yahweh including Aaron, Isaiah, David, Solomon, Zachariah, John and even Jesus knew God by His proper name Yahweh.

How come Islam went back into the stone age?
and they do NOT know the actual name of the Creator?

It is your Qur'an that states that:
Qur'an 2:139
Say (unto the People of the Scripture): Dispute ye with us concerning Allah when He is our Lord and your Lord? Ours are our works and yours your works. We look to Him alone.

Quran 29:46
And argue not with the People of the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better, save with such of them as do wrong; and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our God and your God is One, and unto Him we surrender.

You are the one who need validation!
The name of our God is Yahweh; is the name of your God Yahweh?

Do you surrender to Yahweh?

Christianity Etc › Re: If Allah Is NOT Yahweh, All Muslims Are In Trouble by TenQ(op): 1:35pm On Jul 18, 2022

ucheheart:
That one is their cup of tea. E no concern we Christians.

It's our duty to help them to Salvation in Christ!

Christianity Etc › Re: If Allah Is NOT Yahweh, All Muslims Are In Trouble by TenQ(op): 1:08pm On Jul 18, 2022

ucheheart:
They are not the same and will never be.

Even Muslims know that!
But how do they resolve the problems this creates!

Christianity Etc › If Allah Is NOT Yahweh, All Muslims Are In Trouble by TenQ(op): 12:59pm On Jul 18, 2022

The English word God)/god is derived from an old Proto-German *ǥuđán. Its cognates in other Germanic languages include guþ, gudis (both Gothic), guð (Old Norse), god (Old Saxon, Old Frisian, and Old Dutch), and got (Old High German).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_(word)#:~:text=The%20English%20word%20god%20comes,got%20(Old%20High%20German).

This Word God/god in English is used for the Creator Deity as God and other Deities as god. In Arabic, the word Deity is Allah which is the proper name for their creator God. Arabic and Hebrew languages are both Semitic languages so that they are similar in many respect.

In the religion on the Jews, Eloha/Elohim simply means Deity (God): a title which translated into Arabic is Allah.

In the religion of the Jews, the proper name of the Creator Deity is Yahweh (יהוה‎). The proper name of the Jewish Creator God is so holy that the Jews would never speak it out in reverence (just as culturally, we never call our parents by their proper name but titles).

Similarly,

In the religion of the Christians, the proper name of the Creator Deity is Yahweh Or in the Latinised version Jehovah.

In the religion of the Muslims, the proper name of the Creator Deity is Allah

Unfortunately, in striving for legitimacy, Allah says in the Qur'an that he is the same as Yahweh the God of the Jews and Christians.

Qur'an 2:139
Say (unto the People of the Scripture): Dispute ye with us concerning Allah when He is our Lord and your Lord? Ours are our works and yours your works. We look to Him alone.

Quran 29:46
And argue not with the People of the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better, save with such of them as do wrong; and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our God and your God is One, and unto Him we surrender.

On the surface, the claim of Allah that Elohim/Eloha of the Christians and Jews is very True in the sense that they are equivalent. Just like Daddy, Mummy, President is equivalent and generic:
But when we say Daddy or Mummy or President , we want to know specifically which Daddy, which Mummy or which President.

For Islam, the question is more complicated because the proper name of their Creator Deity is Allah. Like you ask a child, what is the name of your mother and she replies Mummy! And you ask, what is the name of your father and she replies Daddy!

The problem is even more complicated because
1. The proper name of God Yahweh is not mentioned once in either the Qur'an nor the Hadiths. The name is unknown in Islam.
2. Ask any Moslem is they worship Jehovah: the answer will be a capital NO! In fact, a Moslem can be stoned to death for calling the name Yahweh in worship in the mosque.

If the above is true, does it not mean that Qur'an 2:139 and
Quran 29:46 are Taqqiyyas to decieve both the Jews and the Christians?

Secondly, if Moslems can confirm that their Allah is NOT the same as Yahweh the God of the Jews and Christians: would they be willing to re-examine their Faith?

How do you Moslems resolve the fact that Allah is not Yahweh?

Over to you!

AntiChristian:
compton11:
haekymbahd:
mhmsadyq:
alfarouq:
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Watinani:

Politics › Re: Muslim Faithfuls Worship With Christians At ECWA Church In Abuja by TenQ: 11:17am On Jul 18, 2022

sarrki:
PHOTO NEWS: Muslim faithful worship with Christians at ECWA Church on Lemu Road, Kaduna, on Sunday, as part of efforts at promoting inter-faith coexistence in Kaduna State.

Credit: Isaiah Benjamin

Taqqiyya all because of 2023 elections.

Politics › Re: Number Of Muslim/Christian Governors And Deputies In The 36 States by TenQ: 7:46am On Jul 18, 2022

Biodun556:
Meanwhile before, religion was not a factor in Nigerian politics. It was CAN who raised the issue of religion in 1993 when mko chose kingibe as running mate

It all happened when a religion declared war on the other Religion in their books and most of the actual violence were perpetuated by them. Yet in their characteristic Taqqiyya, they want us to believe that religion does not matter. Watch what will happen if it was a Christian-Christian president and vice: they would have violently burned down Nigeria.

At least, the true religion of peace had shown the example of tolerance before. Should they be permanently on the recieving end?

Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Man Arrested In Uk For Preaching In An Open Place by TenQ: 10:25am On Jul 17, 2022

paxonel:
Yeye man!

Pakistan and Iran dey their, he will not go and preach. Na fellow Christian country like UK he thinks he can afford to win souls?

Hypocrr..!

You think UK is a Christian country!?

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by TenQ(op): 10:06pm On Jul 16, 2022

xproducer:
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"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." - John 14:6

"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." - Acts 4:12

I am in perfect agreement with these.

Jesus said:

John 14:6:
"Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by me."

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Politics › Re: Osun Governorship Elections: PDP Claims Victory by TenQ: 9:08pm On Jul 16, 2022

Watinani
Check out your email please

Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by TenQ(op): 8:28pm On Jul 16, 2022

Lukuluku69:
Your faith has a good 500+ years before The Arabian Prophet, quit trying to see the beauty of the horizon from a keyhole. I will leave you to hold on to what you are holding on to.

I repeat, those that brought you Christianity will soon tell you that Islam is the Truth.

Look at their society, they have abandoned their Cathedrals, they are selling their Churches and you can find out what is becoming of those places.

And then you will still say in deception:

[b]al-'Ankabut:46
And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him." [/b]

And you rejoice with your lord who is definitely not Yahweh in this.
We know who this your lord is: the greatest deceiver and the Qur'an attests to it .

It is not a surprise at all: keep it up

Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by TenQ(op): 8:12pm On Jul 16, 2022

advanceDNA:
Jihad!!!!
Yes..u are right...
The religion is also a takeover of goverment in disguise just as mohammed did... that's why bokoharam, iswap will not let us rest....

It is not possible to separate governance and power from Islam. This is what gives them power for wealth and control.

Rich Muslims are never punished by Sharia only the enslaved poor masses who are taught to accept whatever Islam teaches without questioning it

Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by TenQ(op): 8:07pm On Jul 16, 2022

Balerion:
You can't be a Muslim and not believe in the prophet Mohammad PHUM

So, why do Muslims say that Adam, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Zachariah, David, Solomon and even our Lord Jesus Christ are Muslims?

Deception as usual?

Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by TenQ(op): 8:05pm On Jul 16, 2022

advocatejare:
A simple question of “who is a Muslim according to the Quran or Hadith “ they can’t answer

When you ask them directly, they will use Taqqiyya to respond so that even Jesus would be a Muslim. However, when you ask them tactically, it becomes obvious that to be a Muslim, you MUST follow Mohammed and his teachings.

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by TenQ(op): 8:02pm On Jul 16, 2022

advanceDNA:
People have said over and again..that m'mmed just took the old testament and new testament and created a revised version he called a message from God...nigga is a fraud...

I dont know how his followers made him a supposed greatest man alive...i guess that too, was a copy copy from the way christians carry jesus

Islam was invented to mimic the Jewish and Christian religion. They saw that it also gave opportunities for stupendous wealth through jihad. Vola, if you want to be rich, join the gang.
Stories from everywhere was stringed up to form their scripture purportedly dictated by Jubril!

Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by TenQ(op): 4:55pm On Jul 16, 2022

advanceDNA:
I'm shocked that you can't see tenq position in all of this argument....

He doesn't see it.
Muslims claim that Moses, Abraham, Jacob, Isaac, Zachariah and even Jesus were Muslims. The simple question to them was how come!?
I have made them confess the impossibility of anyone becoming a Muslim without Mohammed. How then can they justify that the old prophets of Israel are Muslims since none of them know Mohammed not his teachings.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by TenQ(op): 4:06pm On Jul 16, 2022

Prosper123:
I keep on asking, how come there is no place God spoke to Muhammad in all of Quran, but he spoke to God, but it is not shown where God spoke back to him. God spoke to the old prophets he called. As a matter of fact, He speaking to them was the evidence that He (God) called them to be prophets.

Is there any place in the Quran where God spoke to Muhammad. Not where he spoke to God

Muslims manufactured many places Allah spoke to Mohammed in their Tefsirs.

It never dawned on them that if indeed Allah spoke to Mohammed through an Angel to become the Qur'an, Allah directly speaking to Mohammed should carry more weight

Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by TenQ(op): 3:52pm On Jul 16, 2022

MaxInDHouse:
What makes you believe in his teachings?

Who told you I believe in Mohammed's teachings?
You should have read between the lines

Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by TenQ(op): 12:42pm On Jul 16, 2022

MaxInDHouse:
I wonder o!

Believing everything someone taught and even practicing it yet saying you don't believe the teacher is from God!

If the teacher is not from God, how can the words be from God!

Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by TenQ(op): 9:41am On Jul 16, 2022

MaxInDHouse:
Of course all you need is a rethink!

Whatever makes you believe and practice all what Muhammad taught makes you one of his disciples, simple as ABC!

How could some people be so dumb as not to see!?

Politics › Re: How Kabiru Sokoto Plotted To Kidnap Shettima’s Children At Borno Lodge by TenQ: 8:16am On Jul 16, 2022

Islie:
https://www.thecable.ng/revealed-how-boko-haram-kingpin-plotted-to-kidnap-shettimas-children-at-borno-lodge

lalasticlala

If someone want to kidnap the Governor's children on their way to the school, must he enter government House to do so!?

These people think everyone in Nigeria is a fool!

Shettima, your hand dey for inside this pot.

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by TenQ(op): 7:58am On Jul 16, 2022*

mhmsadyq:
Your headache to deal with.

Al-Baqarah 2:2
This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah .
Al-Baqarah 2:3
Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them,

Al-Baqarah 2:4
And who believe in what has been revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you, and of the Hereafter they are certain [in faith].

Al-Baqarah 2:5
Those are upon [right] guidance from their Lord, and it is those who are the successful.

Al-Baqarah 2:6
Indeed, those who disbelieve – it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them – they will not believe.

These are the Muslim translations.

You can consult google translate for more headaches!

LOL!

The Qur'an:
A collection of stories and hearsay that Mohammed himself does not understand claiming to be the verbatim words of the God of the Jews.

Unfortunately, what can be further away from the truth than the Qur'an: made to decieve people who prefer lies to the truth.
Trinity= God, Mary and Jesus?
Mary Mother of Jesus=Mariam sister of Aaron
Sunset=Inside Murky waters
Men slept in a cave=300 years
Jesus =didn't die on the cross
Qur'an=only one Qur'an
Abraham thrown in Chaldeans Fire= Jewish Midrash

Lies upon lies. And when the adherents are told, instead the words of Christ is made clearly manifest

John 3:19-21:
"And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
For every one that does evil hates the light, neither comes to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that does truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are worked in God."

Jesus concluded it with this:

John 8:12:
"Then spoke Jesus again to them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that follows me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."

Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by TenQ(op): 7:46am On Jul 16, 2022

MaxInDHouse:
Your shalom is useless if you lack basic truth!

Nobody knows Muhammad before he started preaching those things so if you believe (trust) in his teachings you're already a Muslim, leave Muhammad name out of this. Practice it all and see how Muslims throughout the world will embrace you as their brother.
You only prove to be an insane when you speak against the name of a prophet whom you've made your role model!

You clearly don't need no response!

MaxInDHouse:
The funny thing here is that the so called Muslims arguing with you are as dumb as you are!
Whoever makes Christ's teachings his way of life has become a Christian, it's as simple as that.
So if you're practicing everything Muhammad taught but saying you don't believe that the same Muhammad who brought the teachings is not a prophet of God then your brain need a reset!

Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by TenQ(op): 11:07pm On Jul 15, 2022

mhmsadyq:
The virtual library where you get pictures from?

I can never forget the first time I read the hadiths in my state library. They had a large volume of all the hadiths.
I couldn't help but marvel at the contents.

The age of ICT just made information mining far much easier.

Google Translate is my friend: All the hidden things in Arabic is made plain.

Unfortunately, the lies hidden in Arabic ius getting exposed by the day. And truly speaking, I don't trust translations made by Muslims either for the Quran or their hadiths ( I double check in case they have smuggled in something else to modify the true meaning of the text).

God is indeed very Good!

Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by TenQ(op): 10:42pm On Jul 15, 2022

mhmsadyq:
On the internet...

Don't you read books in the library?
The truth is a kind of INFORMATION and it sets free when you adopt it.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by TenQ(op): 10:30pm On Jul 15, 2022

Lukuluku69:
Seating on the Throne of David? Yeah Muhammad did when he judged the Jews of Medina. Did Jesus ever rule over the Jews? Remember he ran away in Nain.

Only the Messiah can sit on the throne of David my friend. Your lack of understanding of Jewish tradition is appalling.
1. The throne of David is an everlasting throne
2 Samuel 7:12-13
When your days are complete and you lie down with your fathers, I will raise up your descendant after you, who will come forth from you, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever.
2. As earlier said: the throne of David is reserved for the messiah
Luke 1:32-33
He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David; and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and His kingdom will have no end.”
3. The throne of David is in Jerusalem:
4. Check out
Luke 1:32
31Behold, you will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to [color=#990000]give Him the name Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David, 33and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever. His kingdom will never end!”
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What else is simpler to understand than the above.

Lukuluku69:
It is not possible for a. Muslim to ever and lead prayers to Yahweh. Do you know why? Yahweh is a creation of those who translated the Bibles from Hebrew to other Languages.

Ya huwa Elohim. Meaning OH HE ELOHIM/ELOHA. So, where did you see Yahweh on that? You guys added vowels to OH HE and make a name for God out of it.

Have you ever heard a Jew use Yahweh in referring to God of Israel?

No wonder, even Allah in the Quran unknowingly gave people names in the Quran with Yahweh as prefix or Suffix.

You know when we say without lies, Islam dies!
Let me burst your lies
1. Allah claimed he gave the name yahya to Zachariah's son (Quran 19:7-10).
Please what is the meaning of Yahaya?
2. Allah speaking about Ilyas (Elias or Elijah) in Quran 6:85 says they are from among the righteous.
What is the mening of Ilyas (Elias or Elijah)

The truth obviously sets free

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