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IbileIfe:
You don't know the premise of this topic . But since I simply quoted the Islamic scriptures, then you should understand that false religion is a product of falsehood.

The Torah mentioned that the Pharaoh of Egypt was two different kings and not one, which contradicts with the teachings of the holy Quran as it mentions the Pharaoh of Egypt as one person.

https://www.egypttoday.com/Article/4/88282/Who-is-the-Pharaoh-of-Prophet-Moses

AntiChristian:
Another lie from the Jehovah witnesses. Na so your instructor max lied in another thread!

All you Sabi na to package falsehood and present as lie.

Prophet David is a pious man who fasted on alternate days. If he fasts today, he doesn't tomorrow. He fasts again the next day. And continues like that.

We don't believe he was a murderer, coveter and adulterer as the Bible falsely paints him.

A Prophet that receives inspiration from God should be above making such mistakes!

If the Prophets that received inspiration made such big errors then the writers of the Bible would have made bigger errors under inspiration writing your Bible.

So in the end your Bible is false.

Hunter2009:
YouTube Hits Maureen Badejo Again, Yanks Her New Channel Opened to Defame Apostle Suleman





The Scriptures says of the unrelenting foes; “The Lord will cause your enemies who rise against you to be defeated at your feet. They shall come out against you one way and flee seven ways."





Barely two weeks after her two prominent YouTube channels were removed for violating electronic broadcast rules, London based VLogger, Maureen Badejo, has suffered another blow. Her newly-acquired channel called 'Maureen Badejo TV, has again been brought down by YouTube.





A famous televangelist and general overseer of the Omega Fire Ministries, Apostle Johnson Suleman, had few months ago, complained to the Google-owned video sharing platform of Badejo’s consistent attacks on his (Suleman’s) personality and his evangelism works using YouTube platform. The man of God later approached the law court to compel YouTube including Badejo and others for redress.





YouTube, in a written apology tagged ‘Outcome of Investigation’ to Suleman and seen by this medium, said; “Our internal team has completed their review and have taken appropriate actions in accordance with our policies, including the removal of videos that were found to violate our community guidelines. This has resulted in the termination of the channels, GIOTV Foundation and Maureenbadejosblog TV for violating our harassment and cyber-bullying policy.




Few days after the channels were yanked, Maureen Badejo opened new one purposely to continue her unprovoked attacks on Apostle Suleman. However, sources within the OFM church said, without a fresh formal complaint either by the cleric of any of his ministers or aides, the YouTube platform, which seemed to have been following Maureen since the last event, discovered her latest misadventure and promptly removed it.




An OFM top source stated that Apostle Suleman refused to make a fuss throughout Maureen's eight-month attacks because "he is naturally a tolerant and patient man. But once he starts a battle he doesn’t let go




Responding on behalf of Suleman, a top OFM minister said the servant of God has always relied on the Scriptures, which says; "We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed; Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.”

sotall:
A foetus isnt independent of the mothers body. Infact some pregnancies are a potential risk to the woman carrying it. Go check the stats, a significant numbet of women lose their lives yearly to pregnancy complications.

A foetus right to life is dependent on the mothers rights. And the mother's right overules the foetus rights till the baby is born and become an independent human.

Now having a baby in this current times demands a whole lot from the mother. It requires wellness, money as well mental capacity. In a world were we have so many deadbeat daddies, a woman has to be careful in deciding to having a baby or not.
We have many humans around us today who regret being brought to this world because the parents cant even afford the basic necessities of life.

Many have gone ahead to commit suicide while others become nuisance to the society e.g in northern Nigeria.

A woman who isnt capable mentally, physically and financially of having a baby shouldn't be forced to bring a child to this world.

sotall:


A woman has a right over her body and whatever is growing inside.

These Male-majority Jury that delivered this anti-woman judgment is satanic and must be resisted by women worldwide

You cant force a woman to carry a pregnancy she aint willing to carry. Its her body, she can do whatever she likes with it.

HellVictorinho4:
LordReed can't prove atheism is a position.

Before you even say there's no reason to believe in God, the atheism is already true.



Whatever you say or think against theism is a manifestation of an exposure not position that prevents belief.


The justification of this or that is the exposure that justifies it.....if you can prove it justifies it..... that's for both theists and atheists.


The exposure is not your assessment of the exposure ... the position is not the exposure.


The assessment is your position.


Your position is your assessment of the exposure that either allows or prevents the development of belief in God



You might think it's wonderful.

You might think it's a blessing.



You might think it's by chance.

You might think it's a choice.

But can you prove the exposure is by choice?


Did you choose to come across HellVictorinho4 when you guys never planned to meet such that it coincides with your belief disappearing...?.... imagine it has disappeared.


You might say you choose to believe but only a meaningless comparison of belief to other things supports that.



How do you know the baby is thinking?


It depends on what you mean by thinking.


If it's to have your mind accidentally focused on a particular case till you visualize, I won't ascribe it to babies.

But if it's to have an assessment or a consideration ,then I will.


An assessment is an activity that helps to assess something or the result of how you assess something.


It's demonstrated by moving or not moving literally certain parts of the body.

It starts from the brain but does not always end in the brain.

Visualization is an assessment that starts and ends in the brain.

An assessment determines the effect or outcome of an exposure on the exposed.

LordReed:
Did you just leap to "without thinking"? Where in what I wrote did I say thinking is not involved?

LordReed:
Lack of belief is a state of mind.

I lack the belief that you have a dog but my opinion is there is a 50% chance that you do have a dog. My lack of belief informs my opinion on your chances of actually having a dog. If in my mind I instead believed you don't have a dog then my opinion could be I am 100% certain you don't have a dog. In either case I could not say anything about whether you have a dog or not and thus express no opinion on the matter. You cannot know my state of mind until I express it.

LordReed:
Lack of belief is a state of mind.

I lack the belief that you have a dog but my opinion is there is a 50% chance that you do have a dog. My lack of belief informs my opinion on your chances of actually having a dog. If in my mind I instead believed you don't have a dog then my opinion could be I am 100% certain you don't have a dog. In either case I could not say anything about whether you have a dog or not and thus express no opinion on the matter. You cannot know my state of mind until I express it.

HellVictorinho4:
Is it a must to think belief in God is not justified to be an atheist?

So, it's no longer about lacking belief ..... it's about having something to say about it or what?



I think it's unnecessary to think it's not justified to have belief to be an atheist.


You're making theists seem invited to an argument.


Haven't you seen that the debate about God is meaningless?


We're talking about an accidental development in the human brain.

What you call reasons to believe or not believe doesn't help to make the debate meaningful.



At birth , there's no belief whether or not anyone is arguing about his belief being justified.



The belief happens by chance upon exposure to a certain environment



It can only leave as it came or by chance.


This talk of choosing to believe or not believe is just a manifestation of the experience of what leads to or prevents the belief.



TenQ

This is how I met and married my husband in 1 month. We are both Christians


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afZjrSDXX-w

LordReed:
His lack of belief is not an opinion. The opinion is "belief in a god(s) is not justified". You seem not to be tracking. I keep my sentences as short as possible so that you can follow, why is this so hard for you?

LordReed:
I didn't say the lack of belief forms the opinion, I said it INFORMS it. Pay attention. The opinion "belief in a god(s) is not justified" is supported by the person being unable to form a belief from the information presented.

LordReed:
More like an atheist's opinion is informed by his lack of belief.

LordReed:
There is no evasion but your own persistent attempt to shoehorn what doesn't fit. A baby is not an atheist because it cannot form the necessary opinion. This I have answered several times so you should ask yourself why you can't remember something so simple.

LordReed:
What part of a baby is not an atheist is eluding you?

LordReed:
LoLz! How can it be when I am telling you that a baby is not an atheist? Geez. Bwahahahahaha!

LordReed:
LoLz. Wonderful, now we have switched to strawman. Bwahahahahaha!

Maynmann:
Then ask them?

Maynmann:
Then ask them?

Maynmann:
You are describing agnostic.

Maynmann:
Where did you see me write that?

Dtruthspeaker:
There is no "they lack a belief" exactly it is not proper to say a 5 year old boy lacks a job in NNPC or BSC certificate.

Maynmann:
Yes, agnostic.

Dtruthspeaker:
It is not right to say that they lack belief, the accurate Truth would be that they are incapable of holding a belief!

HellVictorinho4:
Animals are not persons.... I know you don't refer to persons as animals in this case.....so, animals are not atheists.

HellVictorinho4:
No he says babies can't be atheists so they can't lack belief.


Except he's saying only adult humans that lack belief in God are atheists.

So, babies that lack belief are not atheists or what exactly?

HellVictorinho4:
Did you not see PERSON?

LordReed:
How many times do I need to answer the same question?

HellVictorinho4:
Accepting the existence of deities without proof makes you a theist or believer in deities' existence.

But the problem is that theists usually accept to be called theists yet claim to be aware of the proof of deities or a deity.



Have you heard of or seen any theist that has never worshipped or that never worships?

HellVictorinho4:
The baby is an atheist whether or not the parents are atheists.

If I'm wrong ,why can't anyone including the Dtruthspeaker and TenQ prove their babies have the belief?

LordReed:
Because they cannot interact with the concepts at all same way a baby can't.

LordReed:
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Bacteriologist:
Having observed a lot of ignorant definition of Atheism and Atheists from Theists, I find it will be of great help to aid everyone in understanding what Atheism really means.

Let's start with what Atheism is not:

First, Atheism is NOT a religion. Religion is the belief in or worship of a supernatural/higher power. Which is exactly what atheists NEVER do. So, dear theists, again, Atheism is not a religion.

Atheism is NOT a belief. Atheism is a complete, total and absolute LACK OF BELIEF in all gods, goddesses and deities. Atheism is a rejection of belief and so therefore does not, in itself, require belief or faith as that would be illogical. You do not believe that Unicorns or leprechauns exist, do you? That's exactly how Atheism is, too.

Atheism DOES NOT offer explanation for the origin of the world. Being an atheist DOES NOT mean that one automatically accepts the big bang theory, or big crunch or "something from nothing." Some Atheists believe in the big bang while some others simply state that "We do not know YET how the universe came to be." Which seems to be pretty honest since no one knows for sure how the Universe started. So, beloved theists, Atheism is a total rejection of the belief that any god exists.

Atheism is NOT satanism: Rejection of belief in a supernatural god also includes rejection of belief in a supernatural devil. Get it, theists? God does not exist, same applies to Satan. We're not Satanists, we're atheists.

LASTLY, Satan is NOT an atheist: Satan is a fictitious deity who by definition has been "god's friend" according to most religion. So, literally, Satan is a theist and it makes it really stupid to say Satan does not believe God exists.


So there, Theists, is what you need to stop making up ridiculous conclusions about Atheists and atheism in general every now and then.

Atheists feel free to add other hasty generalisations about Atheism from theists that are often false.