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MaxInDHouse:
We are not bothered with whatever you call us, what matters most to us is the system of our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus who told us that if we are following his footsteps closely people will call us Satanists (cultists) Matthew 10:25

Only those who join his group becomes his closest confidants {Luke 18:22} and only to his closest confidants he revealed sacred secrets hidden from the public.

So calling us CULT for practicing what Jesus taught us is a welcome development! Matthew 5:11-12

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus preached in the public place of worship so everyone knew him as TEACHER but when it comes to SACRED SECRETS Jesus only reveal to his closest confidants! Matthew 13:11

MaxInDHouse:
We are not bothered with whatever you call us, what matters most to us is the system of our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus who told us that if we are following his footsteps closely people will call us Satanists (cultists) Matthew 10:25

Only those who join his group becomes his closest confidants {Luke 18:22} and only to his closest confidants he revealed sacred secrets hidden from the public.

So calling us CULT for practicing what Jesus taught us is a welcome development! Matthew 5:11-12

MaxInDHouse:
Why not support what you're saying with the scriptures?

Jesus reveal sacred secrets only to his own true disciples {Matthew 13:11} but as for the public they will get it in PARABLES (SYMBOLIC TERMS) Matthew 13:13

I'm sorry my friend, this is how the true God wanted it even Jesus himself can't do otherwise!

“I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved". Matthew 11:25-26

So the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses were chosen by Jesus Christ and what they are revealing is for humble people who are like little children always ready to learn like little children!

“Let the young children come to me; do not try to stop them, for the Kingdom of God belongs to such ones. Truly I say to you, whoever does not receive the Kingdom of God like a young child will by no means enter into it.” Mark 10:14-15

My friend, all arrogant individuals are not safe! Zephaniah 2:2-3

Thanks for your time, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

oteneaaron:
In the JW lingua, this action of MaxInDHouse is called "theocratic warfare"

When they have no answer, they run around in circles, or say an outright lie.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus taught some things publicly because it's what everyone can bear but when it comes to sacred secrets (deep things of God) it belongs only to those who have accepted him as their teachers wholeheartedly. Hebrews 5:14
So no JW will reveal these things to you as long as you're not ready to accept us as teachers {Matthew 7:6} if you trust in your pastors go and meet them for the meaning of the symbolic terms Jesus used in the Bible book of Revelation.
Just as zealander10 said, everything has been opened but it's all happening together though one was opened first as Jesus started by driving away Satan and demons out of heaven in 1914.
That's why it's better you humbly request a free home Bible study with JWs in your neighbourhood. Most of your pastors have studied with JWs but they knew all these won't yield tithing from their followers so they parked it aside to teach you people what you'll like to hear from them! 2Timothy 4:3
There are lots of symbolic terms in the Bible book of Revelation:
© Babylon the Great! 17:5
© Locusts like horses! 9:2
© The woman arrayed with the sun! 12:1
© The earth that came to her rescue! 12:16
© Second death! 20:14

And so on.
If you have not accepted us as your teachers it won't make any sense sharing with you what Jesus said should be shared ONLY among the sheep! Matthew 24:45

MaxInDHouse:
I wasn't born a JW so whenever i come in contact with anyone who shows interest in the things of God i always view them as my brothers no matter the religion they claim because i know that's what led me into the congregation of JWs.
But once i discover such a person is arrogant i will switch off for them. How do you decipher an arrogant individuals?
Nicodemus was a prominent member of the first century Jewish High Court known back then as the Sanhedrin. This council of elders rule over the Jewish community despite the fact that Rome is the supreme ruler and there was also traditional kings like Herod Antipas the Sanhedrin believes they will join the Christ to rule over the earth when he comes.
So by the time Jesus of Nazareth began his ministry there's a lot of speculations as to whether this young Jewish carpenter could be the Christ. But Jesus' preaching and teaching is against the Sanhedrin always condemning their ACTIVITIES. That's why they also started planning to deal ruthlessly with him {John 11:48-53} they have spread a lot of negative information about him so the Jewish community concluded that whoever professed faith in Jesus should be expelled from their synagogues {John 12:42} yet Nicodemus still acknowledged that Jesus is God's sent! John 3:2

I also humbled myself after seeing that the JWs has satisfying answers to my question. So when a person still feel like arguing after his question has been answered satisfactorily i just ignore them, let them go and ask whoever they can accept as teacher. There's no time to waste with argumentators! Titus 3:9

zealander10:
Adding to this, the events in the book of Revelation from chapter 5 onward begin to take place during the Lord’s day (Revelation 1:10, 4:1) which the Bible also refers to as the last days or when Christ’s presence would begin (Matthew 24:3). And after considering Bible chronology, Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that this began to take place in 1914. So yes, all the six scrolls, which refers to events, are already opened. Interestingly, the events in the book of Revelation chapter 6:2-17 mirrors the events that Jesus said would occur during the last days. Matthew 24:3-9, 29; Luke 21:9-16, 25-26. That’s why we come to that conclusion. The scrolls being opened means that they have began to take place, but it doesn’t mean that those events have ended yet.

Let me stop here.

Like MaxInDHouse said, anyone who is interested for a Bible study with the Witnesses can approach them in their neighborhood and humbly ask for one. The reason is because this topic constitutes the “deep things of God” (1Corinthians 2:10) Jehovah’s Witnesses are always ready to answer any questions you have but to get those answers, you need to go through the appropriate channels.

MaxInDHouse:
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm for the benefit of other followers i'll dish out just two of the seals so that whoever wants to learn more may humbly approach JWs in their neighbourhood for a Bible study.

Revelations 6:1-2

Jesus (archangel Michael) drove Satan away from heaven in 1914 and began his conquest by gathering millions of obedient disciples to use them as soldiers against Satan as they are going from house to house and door to door with the Good News of God's Kingdom and millions are surrendering to the sword in their hands (Bible) {Ephesians 6:17; Hebrews 4:12 compare to Luke 22:36} this is the rider that's one the white horse and he's still working with his earth spiritual soldiers (Jehovah's Witnesses) who have offered themselves willingly to support him and his government! Psalms 110:1-3


Revelations 6:2-3

Satan and his demons left heaven and down to the earth they were casted as rebellious angels they possessed the rulers of the earth by picking up seats throughout the earth.
So the world rulers somehow ran mad with pride and they began fighting for supremacy this led to the first world war and ever since then wars has not cease as people continue to fight in one place after another despite the fact that they're trying to make peace by forming UN yet they can't figure out why there is war here and there and blood is spilled throughout the earth. But who are those involved in all these? Well it's the same people claiming believers in God only Jesus' disciples (Jehovah's Witnesses) are separating themselves from these people whose hearts has been under the control of Satan the God of this system of things! 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19

A word is enough for the Wise! Matthew 13:9

MaxInDHouse:
Do you want to learn?
You have to do exactly what your teacher says or you keep what you know and ignore the teacher!

So i ask you again:

With what i've taught you so far regarding the government of this world and Jesus' system of rule practiced among his earthly subjects, have you agreed that JWs are worshiping the true God in SPIRIT and TRUTH?

Your response to this will help you a lot to understand what you're asking but if you're not ready then let's call it a day because today is my field service day and many are out there waiting to see me so we can consider the Bible together! Malachi 3:16

MaxInDHouse:
Do you concur to the above presentation that only JWs are working towards God's Kingdom?

Their government is a global government that's working out LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23} in the gathering of imperfect humans that has come out of the former earth (faithless humans) and they're gradually forming a New Earth where they all have the same line of thought {John 17:20-23; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} based on what their government (New heavens) has taught them {Hebrews 13:7,17} and today they have resolved all their racial disparities among themselves, diverted their resources into the production of food and information materials, erased the production, buying, selling and usage of weapons, they have vowed never to raise weapons against their fellowman and as for military services they're all saying GOODBYE! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

That's what millions of obedient people from different races throughout the earth SAW that drew us to the organization.

So do you agree that this group is worshiping the true God in SPIRIT and TRUTH? John 4:24

Your question has a lot to do with the above question so your response to this simple question and unless you respond accordingly you're not ready for the answer to what you're hungrily asking! Amos 8:11

Righthussle:
So as a young Nigerian, with all that is happening in Nigeria now, your problem is Revelation Chapter 6 and the six SEALS ?

imiski:
My man that guy done run. JW are very cunning, and are well trained in the fine art of it.

MaxInDHouse:
Topic of discussion here is government, you have asked a question and i've answered but since you're neither for or against our position it will be better we know your own position on the topic of discussion before you can derail this thread!

MaxInDHouse:
This is what you said regarding the questions you asked that correlates with the topic of discussion:



Saying you've heard doesn't mean you've accepted what JWs believe as the truth but you just want to keep that aside and start looking for ways to begin an argument.
So if you've accepted what JWs taught/believes regarding the world's government then you shouldn't let anything stop you from knowing more. As JWs we only strike on the internet so that when we find a lost sheep of the house of Israel we direct them to go and do the needful in order to be satisfied with spiritual nourishment.
JWs are coming to your area soon wait for them and invite them for a free home Bible study on the topic that interests you!

cornelboy:
How exactly? Or do you think they're doing God's work?


Lol. Does it matter the type of government practised, whether it's democracy or aristocracy or any other form of government?


Jesus was a law abiding citizen and the JWs do the same today.

Jesus only preached about god's kingdom and taught his disciples never to associate with the world.

The disciples and early church followed his footsteps and they remained politically neutral until Constantine took over the church.

The JWs are a today and they are doing everything found in the Bible.
They are not influenced by the Roman Catholics false man-made doctrines but are established in Bible TRUTH.

They are the ones doing God's will today.

MaxInDHouse:
Go back to her and she will tell you what to do after all i have answered the question that has to do with the topic of discussion here!

MaxInDHouse:
Those questions requires a free home Bible study with JWs in your neighbourhood, it can't be answered here so it's either you welcome JWs to know or you forget it.
Thanks!

MaxInDHouse:
The difference between the government in JW and other governments.
JW government don't use weapons to intimidate their subjects rather we submitted to them willingly due to their presentation that's based on Bible truth.
JW government aren't elected (though they were in times past before God's Holy Spirit taught them that such system is worldly) they are anointed/chosi by God's Holy Spirit now.
JW government taught all their subjects never to defend anything except the truth from God's word so weapons aren't needed.
JW government don't discriminate so members are from different races throughout the earth as they love God's word.
JW government don't trust in their ability to make things better rather they believe and taught all their members to believe in God's Kingdom.

As for your questions ask the lady for a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses it doesn't mean you have become one of us but you're trying to know what we believe.
Thanks!

MaxInDHouse:
POLITICS is the FORBIDDEN FRUIT Adam and Eve ate in the garden of Eden!

Ever since man began ruling over his fellowman life keeps getting harder for mankind on this planet {Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9} because it doesn't belong to a man who is walking even to direct his own steps {Jeremiah 10:23} that's why God told the Israelites to wait until the Messiah (Christ) come before He anoint a King over them {Genesis 49:10 compare to Isaiah 9:6-7} but the Israelites felt like having human Kings like other nations {1Samuel 8:6} but that simply means they are rejecting the true God who is their rightful King! 1Samuel 8:7

That's why JEHOVAH the true God asked Samuel to tell them what human rulers will do to them and how they will cry to God but Be won't hid their call when they're sufferings as a result of the wickedness of their human rulers! 1Samuel 8:11-18

Please can you relate with Samuel said about human rulers and how they will dominate their own people in a wicked way with what Nigerians are experiencing today?

Well it's not that God just doesn't want humans to rule over humans but there's a reason why it won't end well.

The welfare of each community largely depends on the mindset of the inhabitants of that community, and the heart of man is treacherous and desperate {Jeremiah 17:9} so the higher the desperation in the hearts of those that makes up a community the swifter in decadence of such community. And since you can't import aliens from outer space but using the same people in that community as rulers over their own people, things will deteriorate faster than ever. That's what is affecting our country Nigeria, each family is desperate to get one of their son or daughter into political offices, not to go there and make Nigeria proud but to STEAL from the treasury and bring back to their family. All the senators and representatives know this very well that's why nobody is being persecuted or punished for mismanagement because that's exactly what every family in Nigeria is looking forward to do. If you search very carefully you will find some people who truly love that name "NIGERIA" but how many are they compared to those who wants to STEAL?
Perhaps 2% which means their efforts will be jeopardized by the majority after all DEMOCRACY is the government of the people by the people and for the people!
So if majority in Nigeria are dishonest and insincere what do you expect of the government they will produce? Psalms 11:3

The same thing is affecting all other nations but their cases differs due to the mindset of the majority of their citizens!

cornelboy:
Cos if Jesus was here today, he wouldn't partake in politics.

Templee333:
I actually dont have any problem with God's justice/injustice. Incase u misunderstood me.

olaNL:
Stop being emotional. You can pass your point without crying

Throwback:
What does ASUU really want?

ASUU and Medical Doctors are the most insensitive of Government workers when it comes to their demands.

olaNL:
Were the state government included in the negotiations? Why should it now be binding on them. Let each state ASUU negotiate with their school owners.

Templee333:
if that's how u undstnd it, no problem.

Templee333:
The above isnt mine. Its a poem that i've thought over and over but have 4gotten the poet's name. By the way,fellow christians, how do u see the poet's description of Heaven,God & Hell, is he right?

StoriesUpdate:
Source: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/08/south-african-pastor-exonerates-fufeyin/

AntiChristian:
Same text is being posted by same person with a different moniker!

Nna ehn!

Islamophobia will not make you crazy o!

haekymbahd:
does this change the fact that it doesn't mean prayer. The Quran was revealed in Arabic and not English.

Prayer was used to represent Salawat because it fits the context of the verse and not that it gave the actual meaning of Salah.

Again show me a verse in the Quran where Salawat is used for Allah and it was translated as prayer


Allah SWT said:

أُولٰٓئِكَ عَلَيْهِمْ صَلَوٰتٌ مِّنْ رَّبِّهِمْ وَرَحْمَةٌ  ۖ وَأُولٰٓئِكَ هُمُ الْمُهْتَدُونَ
"Those are the ones upon whom are blessings from their Lord and mercy. And it is those who are the [rightly] guided."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 157)

AcuraZDX:
Source:
https://www.channelstv.com/2022/08/03/fg-confirms-purchase-of-n1-4-billion-worth-of-vehicles-for-niger-republic/

haekymbahd:
No, the problem is not the Quran or Arabic but English language due to its lack of accurate equivalent word for Salah.

In Arabic Duha and Salat are different words entirely which different meanings. An Arabic speaker is expected to know the difference between the 2. It becomes quite complex for an English speaker who has little/no knowledge of Arabic?


Salah literally means getting close.
and there is no English equivalent word for Salah that is why it sharing meanings with other words in English language

Muslims get closer to Allah by praying and keeping commandment of Allah.

ALLAH gets closer to Muslims through his blessings, support..

That is why when Salah is used for Allah, Angels, human it takes different meanings and the problem is caused due to lack of an accurate equivalent word for Salah in English..


they arrive

ستفسدين كل شيء لو تواجدتِ هنا عندما يصلون
But if you will ruin everything find when they arrive here

عندما يصلون هنا لن يكون هناك فرصة
Once they arrive here, there'll be no chance


arriving

نحن عندنا سيّاح يصلون يوم الجمعة.
We've got tourists arriving on Friday.

pray
انهم يصلون فقدان الايمان يتحول الى يأس
They pray, grant thou, lest faith turn to despair.

لا استطيعُ الانتظار لرؤيتهم يصلون ويمشون حولي بحرية
I can't stand to see them pray and walking around so free.


It could mean prayer, blessing, praise, support depending on context e.t.c


In your own world you may decide to see it as meaning prayer alone because of your job (Anti-islamist) but don't expect Muslims to see it that way.


If Salah is used as prayer in the Quran it is because it fits in the context but inaccurate since there is no English equivalent word for it.

Truvelisback:
TenQ, is that u?