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Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Interpretation Of This Hadith by TenQ(op): 11:14pm On Jul 09, 2022
ictplotter:
More than 78% of the hadith today acclaimed to Bukhari are not authentic because of poor chain of narration, they are not Buhari chain of narration but individual input. The above hadith is fabricated because it lacks sound chain of narration.
Did not Buhari filter off weak narratives before compiling his hadiths?

Who were the ones who composed the fake Hadiths and why?

What is the logic behind:
If a hadith does not have a chain of narratives, then it must be fabricated!

This particular hadith has a number of things authenticating it
1. The name of the woman was given as the wife of Abu Lahab
2. The explanation of an actual Ayah in the Qur'an (Surat-Ad-Duha) was given.

Do you have ANOTHER Tefsir that explain Surat-Ad-Duha?
By the fore-noon, and by the night when it darkens (or is still); Your Lord has not forsaken you, nor hated you.'

If you don't have an alternative, then this is authentic even if you don't like it.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Interpretation Of This Hadith by TenQ(op): 10:45pm On Jul 09, 2022
ictplotter:
Fabricated hadith
Who fabricated the hadith and why?
What is/are the evidence that the hadith was fabricated?

If the hadith was fabricated, why did Buhari include it in his compilation of Sahih Buhari?
Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Interpretation Of This Hadith by TenQ(op): 9:30pm On Jul 09, 2022
Is there no Tefsir that explain this hadith?

Seems all Muslims have disappeared from such a simple question!

Over to you
AntiChristian:
compton11:
haekymbahd:
mhmsadyq:
alfarouq:
Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Interpretation Of This Hadith by TenQ(op): 9:27pm On Jul 09, 2022
mhmsadyq:
Whatever you make of it.

I dey chop meat!
I'm sure it's a point to ponder upon.

Send my own meat o!
LOL!
Christianity Etc › I Need Interpretation Of This Hadith by TenQ(op): 12:38pm On Jul 09, 2022
Is Allah the same as Satan?
A woman asked whether satan has left Mohammed (being the cause of his sickness).
Allah responded that he has not left Mohammed in spite of the sickness.

It is clear that the question was not about whether Allah has left Mohammed BUT whether satan has left Mohammed.


What other clear and unambiguous interpretation do Muslims have for this?

Sahih al-Bukhari 4983
Narrated Jundub:
Once the Prophet (ﷺ) fell ill and did not offer the night prayer (Tahajjud prayer) for a night or two. A woman (the wife of Abu Lahab) came to him and said, "O Muhammad ! I do not see but that your Satan has left you. "
Then Allah revealed (Surat-Ad-Duha):
'By the fore-noon, and by the night when it darkens (or is still); Your Lord has not forsaken you, nor hated you.' (93)

حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو نُعَيْمٍ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ، عَنِ الأَسْوَدِ بْنِ قَيْسٍ، قَالَ سَمِعْتُ جُنْدَبًا، يَقُولُ اشْتَكَى النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَلَمْ يَقُمْ لَيْلَةً أَوْ لَيْلَتَيْنِ فَأَتَتْهُ امْرَأَةٌ فَقَالَتْ يَا مُحَمَّدُ مَا أُرَى شَيْطَانَكَ إِلاَّ قَدْ تَرَكَكَ، فَأَنْزَلَ اللَّهُ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ ‏{‏وَالضُّحَى * وَاللَّيْلِ إِذَا سَجَى * مَا وَدَّعَكَ رَبُّكَ وَمَا قَلَى‏}‏
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 4983


Over to you
AntiChristian:
compton11:
haekymbahd:
mhmsadyq:
alfarouq:


Thank you in advance!

Some authentic Tefsirs will also help. Thanks
Christianity Etc › Re: Does Anyone Know What Righteousness By Faith Means? by TenQ: 9:57am On Jul 07, 2022
elated177:
I just asked you some simple questions!

Did the ten commandments speak anything about loving God and loving man?

Why did Jesus call this the greatest commandment even though it is not part of the ten commandments?

Did the ten commandments speak of forgiving others?

Did the ten commandments command us to love our enemies?

If they didn't, the Messiah's laws refined the ten commandments to its maximum extent.

Learn from the Messiah and be free bro!












YHVH forbid!
I will not join you in pitting the Ten Commandments against any part of what Yahushua the Messiah said while he was on earth. The Messiah himself never did such. That would be tantamount to fighting against himself. Yahushua the Messiah cannot fight himself. He is the embodiment of the Ten Commandments of YHVH Almighty.

Satan and his forces know what the teaching and obedience to the Ten Commandments do to their kingdom.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does Anyone Know What Righteousness By Faith Means? by TenQ: 10:31pm On Jul 06, 2022
elated177:
Malachi 1: 6 “A son honors his father, and a slave his master. If I am a father, where is the honor due me? If I am a master, where is the respect due me?” says YHVH Almighty.
“It is you priests who show contempt for my name. “But you ask, ‘How have we shown contempt for your name?’


John 14: 15 “If you love me, keep my commands.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!
The commands of Christ are His teachings all hinged on

Mar 12:30-31:
"And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. There is none other commandment greater than these."


Which of the ten commandments represent this?

Mar 16:15-16:
"And he said to them, Go you into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believes not shall be damned."


Which of the ten commandments represent this?

Mat 6:12:
"And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors."


Which of the ten commandments represent this?

Mat 5:44:
"But I say to you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which spitefully use you, and persecute you;"


Which of the ten commandments represent this?

I wish you can just humble yourself to learn from Christ!

Mat 12:5-7:
"Or have you not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?
But I say to you, That in this place is one greater than the temple. But if you had known what this means, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, you would not have condemned the guiltless."
Christianity Etc › Re: Does Anyone Know What Righteousness By Faith Means? by TenQ: 7:32pm On Jul 06, 2022
elated177:
I need you to always mention the Ten Commandments whenever you are referring to them and not just use the word "law". There are many laws in the Torah.

What else can give Salvation if not the observance of the Ten Commandments?

How can you observe the Ten Commandments without being ruled by the Commandments? Is it possible for anyone to be greater than the Ten Commandments? The way you people lift things from the writings of our brother, apostle Paul, and jumble them all up is not only deceptive but ludicrous.



I don't think even you understood what you were saying there. Your parents are your parents, mere mortals like yourself. You can even play golf and tennis with them. Your Maker and Creator is God Almighty and you must worship him with FEAR AND TREMBLING. Will you also play golf and tennis with your Creator? Could that be the image of the Creator the merchants of his Word have sold to you?

Psalm 2: 11 Serve YHVH with fear and celebrate his rule with trembling. 12 Kiss his son, or he will be angry and your way will lead to your destruction, for his wrath can flare up in a moment. Blessed are all who take refuge in him.

Hebrews 12: 28 Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship YHVH acceptably with reverence and awe, 29 for our “God is a consuming fire.”



Again, I don't think even you understood what you were saying there. This is the kind of abstract message that has left its hearers empty. "Threat of the law" indeed.
John 1:12:
"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:"
Christianity Etc › Re: Does Anyone Know What Righteousness By Faith Means? by TenQ: 10:41am On Jul 06, 2022
elated177:
The fact that the Ten Commandments of YHVH Almighty were written by him on two stone tablets should give any genuine seeker an idea of how seriously he takes them. There are other laws, decrees, statutes and commands in the Torah, of course, but the Ten Commandments are separate.

The two stone tablets upon which the Ten Commandments were written were carefully placed in the Ark of the Covenant. The other two items were the golden jar of manna and budded staff of Aaron.

You see, when the Father in heaven, YHVH Almighty, said he would write his Laws on our hearts and put them in our minds, he was, by that very fact, saying he would make us his temples and our hearts and minds a kind of ark.

John 14:23 Yahushua replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.

I think this should form a a new thread entirely.
I don't think any Christian will disagree with this except if what you are saying is that observance of the ten commandment is what gives us salvation. Being born again will cause you to observe the law without being ruled by the law.

The relationship of Christians to God is just like the fact that because I am a true child of my parents causes me to live right without living under the FEAR of obeying their RULES: this is the relationship of a person born again through Christ to the Almighty FATHER!

Those who are Born Again inherently please their Father without the threat of non observance of the Law. Only servants are kept in check by the threat of the law!
Christianity Etc › Re: Does Anyone Know What Righteousness By Faith Means? by TenQ: 6:04am On Jul 05, 2022
elated177:
Check out the thread below.


https://www.nairaland.com/7199380/self-righteousness-it-scriptural#114204377




Compare verse 21 of the portion of the Scriptures you quoted above to your assertion below.
No sane Christian goes against the LAW of God even though we know that no one is saved by just the observance of the Law.

The Laws in the OT is not limited to the 10 commandments. It also includes the ceremonial and levitical Laws. The 10 Commandments are like the summary or coincise statement of the law.

Rom 3:25-30:
"Whom God has set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believes in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? No: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith."
Christianity Etc › Re: Does Anyone Know What Righteousness By Faith Means? by TenQ: 11:40pm On Jul 04, 2022
elated177:
Is it possible for anyone to please YHVH Almighty without obeying his commands? Do you agree with me that those who obey the Commandments of YHVH Almighty are certified righteous by him?

Consider the following:

Acts 10: 44 Cornelius stared at him in fear. “What is it, Lord?” he asked.31 and said, The angel answered, “Your prayers and gifts to the poor have come up as a memorial offering before God.
31 and said, ‘Cornelius, God has heard your prayer and remembered your gifts to the poor




I want you to consider the following deeply.

Acts 10: 43 All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”

Hebrews 9: 22 In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.
Isa 64:6:
"But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away."

Mat 19:16,18-22:
"And, behold, one came and said to him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? … He said to him, Which? Jesus said, You shall do no murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, Honor your father and your mother: and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. The young man said to him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? Jesus said to him, If you will be perfect, go and sell that you have, and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions."
Christianity Etc › Re: Does Anyone Know What Righteousness By Faith Means? by TenQ: 5:39pm On Jul 04, 2022
elated177:
Who is deemed "just" in the Scriptures? What certifies a person as "just"?

Live by faith in what?
A just person is one who is deemed by God to be living his life in order to please God (in spite of the fact that our righteousness is not anything before God).
Acts 10:1-2:
"There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band, A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God always."

Yet he was directed to how he could be saved.

elated177:
What has the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob promised that he is expected to perform?
Abraham was not thinking of salvation in his walk with God. He only TRUSTED God that He would perform His promises over his life to become prosperous and a great nation.

elated177:
What is this "our righteousness"? Give examples.
Righteousness is ANYTHING that we do that shows our love both to God and Man.

Examples:[b][/b]
- Helping others at our expenses
- Building the lives of others at our own expense
- Living Right by obedience to God's laws
- Devotion to God through Devotion
Family › Re: A Law Banning Poor Men From Polygamy. by TenQ: 5:29pm On Jul 04, 2022
Tannhauser:
grin

The Law should begin with a definitive definition of a "poor" man.

TenQ
If Money is required for marrying a second wife or having more than two children, the proper way to do it is a 10 year tax for having more than the "normal national average"

So, to have a third child will require you to pay say N100,000 every year.

To marry second, third or more wives will require paying N100,000 per annum per wives.

Exceptions can be made for multiple births like twins and triplets.

But this will turn into a religious war in Nigeria as Muslims will claim that the law is against them.
Christianity Etc › Re: Aqeeda Creed Is Why Moslems Lie! by TenQ: 7:59am On Jul 04, 2022
AntiChristian:
Instead of you not to respond to your Holy spirit blunder but you have no shame you must still comment.

Umar is a name.

Ummah is Nation.

They are spelled differently in Arabic and English.
If spelling is your problem and not the usual diversionary tactics, then I will use the consensus spelling of "Ummah"!

Bad English is saying "Muslims Ummah" when you intend to say "Muslim Ummah"!


The issue on ground before your diversionary tactics.
My claims:
1. Taqqiyya is allowed in Islam
2. Muslims also use various forms of Taqqiyya both for themselves and a different kind for others.
Examples:
1. Christians worship three Gods
2. Qur'an is perfectly preserved and not corrupted in any form
3. All the Prophets in the scriptures of the Jews and the Christians are Muslims
4. The Jews and the Christians have corrupted their scriptures
5. The Qur'an has not one single error.
6. The Qur'an is the exact words of God dictated through Jubril and there is just ONE Qur'an in the whole world.
7. Jesus did not die on the cross, neither did he resurrect.
8. Islam is a religion of peace

Of these eight points above, Muslim clerics have lied to the Ummah and at the same time the Ummah repeats the lies in modified forms to others.
Christianity Etc › Re: Aqeeda Creed Is Why Moslems Lie! by TenQ: 10:31am On Jul 03, 2022
AntiChristian:
Lol Muslims Umar! Olódò!

Why can't the holy spirit correct you that it's Ummah not Umar which is a name.

Continue spreading your falsehood. We've established holy spirit doesn't exist. At least you no get the spirit of truth you're preaching. How erroneous!
So Arabic pronounciation in English has standard spellings!?

You should go back to school if your comprehension is I'll equipped

Muslims Umar ko!

Antichristian,
It is either
Muslim Umar
or
Muslim Ummah

Not Muslims Umar : this is what happens when you pay someone to write English examinations for you.

And instead of this your the diversionary tactics , you could have intelligently made your objections known.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are We The Same Before God? by TenQ: 9:56am On Jul 03, 2022
Your question is just like asking:
Are all students of a particular institution the same?

Shascky33:
Happy sunday nairalanders. Few weeks back i was asked by my younger brother, 17, about how true it is that we are the same before God, despite the say that goes "All fingers are not created equal" in an attempt to explain away why people are richer or poorer than each other. Honestly i had no convincing answer for him.
We are the same BUT not the same.

As humans, we are the same before God.

However as per Grace, we are not the same.
Your Grace for Wealth and that of DJ Cuppy is not the same.
The Saved (Born Again) is different from the Unregenerated.
Your location/citizenship is not the same.

As Children of God, We are not even the same in our faithfulness and love for God.

Hence, we are different: very different!
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Possible To Answer The Call Of God Without A Clear Vision? by TenQ: 9:43am On Jul 03, 2022
Goalnaldo:
Sometime ago during one of the crossing over service the holy Spirit descended heavily and asked each one of us what God will like to do for us. I said I want to be a great man of God. He said he has been waiting to hear this from my mouth.

Oil was poured upon me that night and I was mandated. Few years past, I never made any move to start the work of God, instead I keep applying for jobs, trying several things I learned from this forum but no one yielded anything positive.

Yesterday (Sunday) the holy Spirit descended again. He says one day I will do his work that the earlier I start the better for me. If not every other thing I put my hands on will fall.

I'm bothered because unlike other people that are called, I don't see any vision or revelation or anything that clearly shows me this path. What's your advice on this? Please I need your opinions.
1. Every true Christian (born again) has been called by God into ministry
Eph 2:10:
"For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to good works, which God has before ordained that we should walk in them."

2. Your calling is related only to your Spiritual Gifts and Calling.
Are you Called as an Apostle, Prophet, Teacher, Pastor or Evangelist?
What are your Spiritual Gifts?
Healing, Administration, Helps, Service, Faith, etc
3. God's calling and gifts is NOT a mandate for setting up a Ministry of your own.
God's calling and gifts is for you to use them for the building up of the Church of Christ EVERYWHERE you are!
Eph 4:11-13:
"And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ:"



Serve God in your Church with all your Spiritual Gifts and Talents (Natural Gifts). The calling of believers is NOT to start their own Ministry.

Christianity Etc › Re: Aqeeda Creed Is Why Moslems Lie! by TenQ: 6:32am On Jul 03, 2022
AntiChristian:
Muslim clerics lied to the Umar? Which Umar?

You're are the liar with no holy spirit having several monikers telling lies for Christ.
I stated clearly refutable points only liars would brey rhetorics to escape the truth.

Trust Islamic cleric's translation at your own peril. Just as they try to deceive others, they also deceive the Muslim Umar.
John 8:32:
"And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."


Only the TRUTH set people FREE bro!
Christianity Etc › Re: Aqeeda Creed Is Why Moslems Lie! by TenQ: 9:09pm On Jul 02, 2022
AntiChristian:
We have all the Qur'an and hadiths online yet you lied that your muslim friends are hiding what they believe in. What brazen lie is these?

Google "articles of faith"! Everything is online!
And i wonder where you see the creed thing that is kept only in the heart and you exhibit the opposite. That's hypocrisy! Islam never thought that. You are a liar!

Your Christian Creed is what differentiates an Anglican from a JW, Catholic, 7 days Adventists, Celestial, RCCG, TREM, Winners, Cherubim, Synagogue, etc.
The OP may not have presented his views very clearly.

1. Taqqiyya is allowed in Islam
2. Muslims also use various forms of Taqqiyya both for themselves and a different kind for others.
Examples:
1. Christians worship three Gods
2. Qur'an is perfectly preserved and not corrupted in any form
3. All the Prophets in the scriptures of the Jews and the Christians are Muslims
4. The Jews and the Christians have corrupted their scriptures
5. The Qur'an has not one single error.
6. The Qur'an is the exact words of God dictated through Jubril and there is just ONE Qur'an in the whole world.
7. Jesus did not die on the cross, neither did he resurrect.
8. Islam is a religion of peace

Of these eight points above, Muslim clerics have lied to the Umar and at the same time the Umar repeats the lies in modified forms to others.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Heaven And Hell Is It The Gospel To Preach? by TenQ: 8:54pm On Jul 02, 2022
Buytruth:
Why should these preachers preach about heaven and hell?
Is it to enter into heaven and to escape hell is the gospel message that the Lord Jesus Christ sent his disciples to go ye and preach to every creature for a witness?
So what did Jesus Christ say about heaven and hell?
Infact, Jesus Christ said very little about Heaven and hell. He spoke more about gospel of the kingdom and how one can enter into the kingdom.
What we are seeing today is that, most of preachers did not know the mystery of the kingdom of God, because they have not been baptized with the Holy Ghost, that is why they didn't preach the gospel of the kingdom.
There is no place the God of heaven promise heaven to the righteous as their dwelling home.
Here that they referred to. John 14:2-3, says, In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
Please where the Lord Jesus Christ will be, that we will also be?
First, He will be in the clouds to receive His overcomer. Second, He will be on earth to set up the kingdom which God of heaven promised us. Third, He will be in new earth which God of heaven also promised us. These are the places where the Lord Jesus Christ will be that we will also be.
The mansions in John 14: 2-3, that He went to prepare is [coming down] into the new earth which God promised to create for us.
Revelation 21:1-3, 10 (KJV) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, [coming down] from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, [descending] out of heaven from God.
Revelation 3:12 (KJV) Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which [cometh down] out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
The God of heaven only promised righteous a kingdom and the King, then new heaven and new earth where righteous will spend their eternity, heaven is not where the righteous will spend their eternity.
These are both promised. Matthew 25:34 (KJV) Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the [kingdom] prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
2 Peter 3:13 (KJV) Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for [new heavens and a new earth], wherein dwelleth righteousness.
The gospel message that the Lord Jesus Christ gave to His disciples to preach and teach every creature for a witness, first, is gospel of the kingdom, second, is witness the King of the kingdom, third, is repentance and remission of sin.
Get it right brother and sister preachers, Born again is not to enter into heaven please, Born again is to enter into the kingdom which God of heaven promised to set up on earth.
John 3:3, 5 (KJV) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the [kingdom] of God.
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the [kingdom] of God. Also heaven is not where righteous will spend eternity. The righteous will spend their eternity in new heaven and new earth.
Deliverance, healing, prosperity, they are all sign that follows been preaching the gospel of the kingdom. Let me tell you the real prosperity is to have godliness with contentment is a great gain, it is a real prosperity.
This is the time for all Christian preachers to be genuinely saved, satisfied, and received baptism of the Holy Ghost and have power to preach the gospel of the kingdom, to seek the kingdom and righteousness, and to pray for the kingdom to come, so that we will be doing on earth as it is in heaven, when the Lord Jesus Christ comes back.
This is the 15 years ago that I said delaying the event in the 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, is dangerous to the Christendom, now we are all seeing the antichrist forerunner that they were working tirelessly to usher in their master to begin war against believers and starts their abomination and great tribulation.
This is the time for us also, to unite to do the work the Lord Jesus Christ sent us to do and finish it to usher in the next event.
It is impossible to preach the good news without speaking about heaven and hell.

Why?

What is the Good news?
That God has paid for us the price for our freedom and deliverance from Judgement (hell) and freely gave eternal life (heaven) to ALL who will TRUST in the Solution of God through atonement of Christ by His blood.

The question is :
If the gospel mean good news, what is the good news?
Christianity Etc › Re: Does Anyone Know What Righteousness By Faith Means? by TenQ: 8:44pm On Jul 02, 2022
Rom 1:17:
"For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith."

Gal 3:11:
"But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith."

Heb 10:38:
"Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him."


elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

The righteous will live by their faithfulness. What does it mean?

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!
Faith means Trust in the integrity of God to perform His words.

The righteous thus will live their lives by Trust in God's promises to
1. Save those who Trust in Him for their Salvation
2. Be the Righteousness of those who depend on Him since our righteousness is insufficient to get us into heaven.
Family › Re: Is It True That When Women Have More Money They No Longer Regard Their Husband by TenQ: 2:31pm On Jul 01, 2022
FORWARDEVERLY:
That your relation is wise..
The relation is very stupid.

He thinks he will live forever!?

If he dies untimely, his children would be distributed to friends and relations to do househelps ALL BECAUSE his wife cannot support herself financially!
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Know Who To Marry As A Christian by TenQ(op): 7:54am On Jun 30, 2022
Kobojunkie:
I found it. Isaiah 60

All the people gather in from the Nations at the time the Messiah reigns over the 12 tribes of Israel and all those who gather are sons and daughters of Israel. undecided
I agree with you.
One Islamist is saying that Isaiah 60 is referring to Mohammed because he saw that Kedar was mentioned. He didn't know that Kedar is one of the nation's that will pay tribute to Israel at the time of the Messiah
Christianity Etc › Re: The Life Of Muhammad: An Inconvenient Truth by TenQ: 12:04am On Jun 30, 2022
Lukuluku69:
The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet; and they shall call thee, The city of the Lord, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.
Whereas thou hast been forsaken and hated, so that no man went through thee, I will make thee an eternal excellency, a joy of many generations.
Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the Lord am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.
For brass I will bring gold, and for iron I will bring silver, and for wood brass, and for stones iron: I will also make thy officers peace, and thine exactors righteousness.
-- Isaiah 60:14-17
Verse 14. "The sons of them that afflicted thee" represents the conversion of the sons of those who opposed the Arabian Prophet mission. They all came to him and accept him. They all bowed down at his feet: simply means they came to him and beg his forgiveness and he accepted them all.

Verse 15. This needs a bit of elaboration. You see before Prophet Muhammad time in Arabia, the Arabian are generally regard has brutes, sub-humans. No Nation deemed them worthy to colonize. Their Land is but a barren wasteland. So, the Super Powers then overlooked them. The Persians, Romans, Greeks passed them by. But when Islam was preached among these brutes, they became Light bearers in spiritual, educational etc matter. The Arabs supplanted the Persians, Romans and many other ancients powers.

Verse 16. Within a few years after Islam was preached many surrounding Lands Rulers came into the fold and regularly send gifts to the Prophet as well as to the City of Mecca.

Verse 17. From bass, to gold, from iron to silver simply means from a dross people God will bring out excellent beings. And this was exactly the condition of the Arabs before and after Islam.
I find it amazing and amusing at the same time that the Bible you Muslims claim is corrupted is now the one you are struggling to justify your prophet Mohammed. Are you saying that the bible is no more corrupted?

Secondly,
Any book in the Bible has an audience/target and purpose!
The Purpose of the Book of Isaiah (A prophet sent to Israel) is to among others:

Isaiah Summary:
1. Isaiah the Prophets is called by God to preach repentance to the Israelites
2. The Israelites are a ‘stubborn people’ and refuse to repent
3. Isaiah preaches the coming of a future Messiah who will be called Emanuel
4. Ultimately God’s people will be restored after a period of Judgement

Isaiah the Prophet spoke mainly to the people of Judah and the message was mostly to ‘repent’ and turn from their wicked ways that the Lord might bless them yet again. God has tried to reason with them, but they are a ‘stubborn people’ Isaiah gets his commission in chapter 6 when God asks whom he will send; and Isaiah volunteers (Ch.6:cool.

Isaiah is particularly concerned or focused on the coming of the Messiah, a savior who will also be a ‘light unto the nations’ (Ch.42:6).

Throughout this book, Isaiah rages against hypocrisy and the double-dealings of those who would claim to be ‘religious’ and God-fearing; warning that the Judgment of God is about to descend upon them with a ‘consuming fire’ (Ch.30:30,33) unless they repent from their ways.


Now, lets look at the book in detail especially Chapter 60


1 “Arise, shine, for your light has come, and the glory of the LORD rises upon you.
2 See, darkness covers the earth and thick darkness is over the peoples, but the LORD rises upon you. and his glory appears over youyou..
3 Nations will come to your light, and kings to the brightness of your dawn.
4 “Lift up your eyes and look about you: All assemble and come to you; your sons come from afar, and your daughters are carried on the hip.
5 Then you will look and be radiant, your heart will throb and swell with joy; the wealth on the seas will be brought to you, to you the riches of the nations will come.
6 Herds of camels will cover your land, young camels of Midian and Ephah. And all from Sheba will come, bearing gold and incense and proclaiming the praise of the LORD.


Who do you think these you and your in the text referring to?
Mohammed!?

No. It Refers to the Stubborn Israel/Judah who was under Gods punishment but whose glory would be restored in Future.

Look at verse 10
10 “Foreigners will rebuild your walls, and their kings will serve you. Though in anger I struck you, in favor I will show you compassion.

Tell me, Did Allah ever strike Mohammed in Anger and after promised to show him favour?

You can find me any ayah of the Quran where you think Mohammed fits verse 10
Look at verse 14
14 The children of your oppressors will come bowing before you; all who despise you will bow down at your feet and will call you the City of the LORD, Zion of the Holy One of Israel.

Zion had ALWAYS been Jerusalem.
The YOU here is A CITY not a person and it had been all along the chapter
Can you find me just one Ayah of the Quran or any of your hadiths that says that Zion is Mecca or Medina or Mohammed?
Look at verse 16
16 You will drink the milk of nations and be nursed at royal breasts. Then you will know that I, the LORD, am your Savior, your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.

I am sure you don't know that Jacob here is the same one as Israel.
Since Mohammed is dead and buried, how could he "drink the milk of nations"?

At the restoration of Israel, this is what God has promised them.

This same Israel, you Moslems hate with a passion.


Now, let me take you to the opening of the book of Isaiah
Isaiah 1:1-4
1 The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.
2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the Lord hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.
3 The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master's crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider.
4 A sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the Lord, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.


Is the verses above referring to Mohammed?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Life Of Muhammad: An Inconvenient Truth by TenQ: 9:08am On Jun 29, 2022
Lukuluku69:
Dumboinho, is not so much for what I have to say, it is what Isaiah prophesied about him in his Oracles. Like I said read Isaiah 42 and 60. If you need the interpretations just say so. Otherwise wallow in your hatred and ignorance.
Please, I need the interpretation of Isaiah 42 and 60. I've read the two chapters but can't seem to wrap myself round it

Thank you
Christianity Etc › Re: If A Church Is Not Growing In Numbers Does It Mean The Pastor Was Not Called? by TenQ: 2:12am On Jun 28, 2022
jesusjnr2020:
Absolutely.

Thank you for this.
Shalom sir
Christianity Etc › Re: If A Church Is Not Growing In Numbers Does It Mean The Pastor Was Not Called? by TenQ: 8:49pm On Jun 27, 2022
Goodplace:
If for almost 2 decades a church has not experienced a significant growth in numbers and finance, does it indicate that the set man over the commission is not called?
God measures only faithfulness of the pastor relative to the amount of grace and gifts he has been given.

God does not look at numbers neither does He care about increase in tithes and offerings.

God measures faithfulness to
1. Purity
2. Love
3. Service
4. Winning of souls
Politics › Re: Kano Prince, Mustapha Ado Bayero, Marries 2 Wives On Same Day (Photos) by TenQ: 5:26pm On Jun 26, 2022
Islie:
https://thenationonlineng.net/photos-kano-prince-takes-two-wives-on-same-day/
The one he truely loved and the one that was given to him.
Politics › Re: Femi Fani-kayode: Senator Ekweremadu And An Evil Soul Called David by TenQ: 4:36pm On Jun 26, 2022
Zonefree:
Life itself is a jungle. Eat or be eaten.

There's no guarantee the boy will come out of the theatre alive. The Ekweremadus seems not to be honest with the whole thing. Everything was done discreetly and there's no assurance they will bring the boy back to Nigeria alive.

There are thousands of donor that would willingly or financially donate their kidney had Ekweremadu announced publicly he's searching for a donor for his ailing daughter. The boy played fast one on the Ekweremadus after observing the scenario.

Life is a jungle, after all.
I may not like the Ekweremadus or hate them, however I think they did the right thing by stating the purpose of the VISA to UK.
The boy is actually 21 and not 15 as he claimed.

The only problem is if the Ekweremadus did not sign a legal agreement with the boy. If there isn't a legal agreement, we can suspect fraud on their part as they will never part with their money for a land with no documentation.

Parents will do anything for their children and one cannot blame the Ekweremadus. At the same time, poverty is not a crime and thus the life of David should be guaranteed by a legal document.

The boy wanted to Japa at all cost: I don't know if this was part of the design acting out.

Is it a kind of deal I could take if I was in the boy's position? Most likely yes!
An agreement is an agreement:I hope the Ekweremadus got a lawyer for the boy to document his rights before and after the surgery.
Christianity Etc › Re: Prophet Mohammad, King David And The Twisted History! by TenQ: 12:33pm On Jun 26, 2022
AntiChristian:
Same biblical Jesus that failed in savings the lost sheep of Israel he was primarily sent to save. What state is Israel in now?

Of cos I won't answer diversions and i have limited time.

What I responded to is your claim that your God doesn't cover sin.

Show us how those people were punished for their sins? Why are some killed? Why are some not punished at all?

Why did you lie?
I specifically answered each of your questions.

Why has not God punished you for most sin you have committed?
Because, you are a nobody and your punishment will be waiting for you at the day of judgement.

The law had not been given at the time of Judah, Tamah or Lot's daughters. And they were nobodies and as such were not immediately judged except to pass example to others of God's displeasure about the error. They were NOT prophets nor God's representative in any way!

Except God hammers you for every sin then you can raise an objection

But Mohammed was Allah's representative.
Now, we come to the final seal of the prophets (SAW)
1. Who had SEX with his sons in-laws (Allah actually encouraged him by cancelling adoption)
2. Married a six year old girl and Had SEX with her when she was 9 year old. It is called Pedophilic tendencies.
3. Who ordered his people to Murder people that wrote insulting poems about him Abu Afak .
How about murder for treasure Kinana ibn al-Rabi ibn Abu al-Huqayq?


Can you show me just one ayah of the Qur'an when Allah rebuked Mohammed for doing bad?

I hope you wouldn't run away when I open my next thread about Islam the religion of LIES!
Christianity Etc › Re: Prophet Mohammad, King David And The Twisted History! by TenQ: 7:23am On Jun 26, 2022
AntiChristian:
You are right! Show me why God included sinners in Jesus genealogies in the Bible? Incest sinners o!

And why did the biblical God give David more wives when "polygamy is forbidden already"?

And are you really sure God doesn't cover sins in the Bible?

Show me how Lot's daughters were punished for incest? Show me how Judah who slept with his daughter in law was punished despite God killing two of his sons for one sin or the other which includes spilling sperm i.e. coitus interruptus.
Antichristian, so you finally found your voice after dodging the Thread on the preservation of the Qur'an!? Wonders shall never end.

Let me answer your questions:
1. Every form of sinners were in the genealogy of Jesus because ALL human beings are Sinners!
Does Islam believe that a human being exist apart from Jesus that was not a sinner?
This is why Jesus can be the solution to the problem of sin of mankind.
2. Polygamy is NOT a sin. I wonder where you got that from in the bible. It is only that in the New Covenant anyone who would be a leader/bishop MUST be a husband of one wife.
If you think polygamy is a sin in the bible, please present your evidence.
3. The bible stated the facts of what happened with Lot's daughters. Neither Lot not his two daughters are prophets of God. If they are prophets or representatives of God, let me know. Find any scripture that says Judah is a Prophet or a Representative of God.
Your IGNORANCE did not allow you to know that in all the cases you have sighted, the LAW was not yet given.


Now, we come to the final seal of the prophets (SAW)
1. Who had SEX with his sons in-laws (Allah actually encouraged him by cancelling adoption)
2. Married a six year old girl and Had SEX with her when she was 9 year old. It is called Pedophilic tendencies.
3. Who ordered his people to Murder people that wrote insulting poems about him Abu Afak .
How about murder for treasure Kinana ibn al-Rabi ibn Abu al-Huqayq?


Can you show me just one ayah of the Qur'an when Allah rebuked Mohammed for doing bad?

I hope you wouldn't run away when I open my next thread about Islam the religion of LIES!
Christianity Etc › Re: Prophet Muhammad Was Not The First Muslim by TenQ: 6:55am On Jun 26, 2022
IbileIfe:
Did Pharaoh even drown?
What did the Torah say about this!?

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