₦airaland Forum

johnie:
Can one of those who want us to believe that everything is perfect outside Nigeria, particularly the US of A, please explain to this man why a pothole almost swallowed his vehicle considering the fact that he pays his tax!

http://news.yahoo.com/video/cleveland-wews-20910953/superior-sinkhole-24635312;_ylt=AihCpR00GaKFe3I3jQ257Liz174F;_ylu=X3oDMTExYnUzOTZvBHBvcwMyNQRzZWMDY2xpcHMEc2xrA3N1cGVyaW9yc2luaw--


Okay, now I get it.

It is the PDP/ACN government or the Nigerian governor/mayor that has 'chopped' the money along with the nigerian contractor who constructed the road.



Funny, its is the same Ohio where those locomotives came from!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYK2ROrFazU

Please try and provide intelligent analogies next time. Even your link shows the state apologizing and providing some financial compensation from vehicle damage from potholes.
Until you can show this in place from our leaders in Nigeria, kindly STFU.

While you're at it, show us where anyone claimed things in any country outside Nigeria are 'Perfect'. You made up your own question and proceeded to answer it. Is that logical behaviour?

See shameless people trying to allocate everything to GEJ.
Why shout down Kobojunkie? If this was Yar'Adua's baby you must give credit to where it is due. This is how adverts I see on TV these days are giving GEJ credit for the Amnesty programme that was effected under his predecessor. Na wa o!

Nigerians will always be slaves because they are easily satisfied with crumbs. These crumbs from the poisonous PDP cannot sate our call for accountability and good governance!

When some of you grow up and start paying taxes you will learn to demand more from your leaders.

[quote author=emeka_gh link=topic=628374.msg7967635#msg7967635 date=1300865430]Goodluck Jonathan is the President of this very complex country. Campaigning for re-election is tasking enough and extra joblet alone combining it with preparations for a thousand and one debate.

Jonathan has the right to choose which debate to attend. Why should he attend a debate on 25th and another on 29th just because some group want attention.
This debates are far removed from a primary concern. Debate will not provide us electricity - Goodluck will.[/quote]So when the youths decide to quiz their prospective leaders on their plans for Nigeria, they are just a group that 'wants attention' abi?
Good thing for the people of Egypt and Tunisia that they had few people like you to spoil things for them> You'd probably have been telling CNN that the Tahrir square crowd were 'attention seekers'.

Funny how GEJ has no time to attend a debate that he was invited for weeks ago, yet he's expected to make an appearance at Dbanj's concert on the same day.

Pharoh:
Failure is subject and goodluck has not failed in the eyes of his supporters coupled with other factors.

So can you good luck haters live in peace with the choice people has made and stick to yours?.

I was strongly in support of GEJ up until Q3 last year. Now, he has turned me away with his clueless ways.

At the end of the day, if GEJ and his corrupt PDP cohorts win the day, we will all stew in the boiling pot. As someone said, you can lead a camel to the stream but you cannot force it to drink. If 12 years of PDP misrule has not showed you what you must do, then there's really little we can do to convince you.

If this was just about me, i'd let the issue lie. I am not a poor man, I will still remain very comfortable under any Government in power. This is about fixing Nigeria for the future generation. This is about turning away from the PDP and breaking the stranglehold they have on this country. We cannot allow Nigeria to become a one-party state. Our future generations will curse us for this, mark my words.
People talk about denying the North the presidency. Is the religion or tribe really the issue, or is it good governance? Have you even heard the massive concessions GEJ is making to the North just to secure his single term in office?

On Election day, i will do what needs to be done. I know you will do what you want also. But let us mark these days when we warned about the need for change.

assme:
Chatap dia!! mumu, u think u are still young in late twenties; coming on NL to yell out your emptiness. old man. u can do beta

Why the beef for those of us in our late twenties na?

By Nigerian standards, building your own duplex before you hit 30 is pretty decent. Get real, stop dissing him and focus on the topic, m'kay?

slimghost:
How much do u pay 4 petrol now and when was d last time u queued up for long just to get petrol?

Tell that to the people already dead in Jos due to GEJ's inability to curb the violence there.

It's a shame that this is the only thing you could even mention as an achievement for GEJ in all his years in power in his state and at the center.

[quote author=na_so link=topic=628373.msg7961616#msg7961616 date=1300793399]Its even more pathetic for educated people to forget that the likes  Amaechi  and sullivan chime ,  two governors whose achievments stand toe-to-toe with fashola are PDP governors.

It is even worse to  refuse to see that a sizeable chunk of those that call themselves opposition/progressives are former PDP members that have contributed in the rot we now see.

My friend forget this "dont vote PDP"  line. smart people are looking at the candidates irrespective of the party, because fundamentally there is'nt much difference between all the parties.

We are now shouting ACN because of fashola, what some people are now asking is , what happened to the 8 wasted years of Tinubu's administration.[/quote]You have to look beyond the Presidential and Gubernatorial elections. I sometimes think the House and Senate elections together with the local government elections may be just as important as the Big Two. A targeted campaign at loosening the PDP stranglehold is in order.

Exceptions can and should be made for obvious visible performance. After all, the aim is to weaken PDP not to destroy it. Defeating the PDP at the center is a very good start.

PS: I agree with you on Gov Amaechi.

Jakumo:
Rusher14 please don't RUSH to conclusions about whether the incumbent president could possibly be worse than a known Islamist extremist and mass-murdering tyrant with a sadistic streak as wide as all outdoors, which was AGAIN so eloquently demonstrated by the brigandage of Ayatollah Buhari-Bin-Laden's hired election hoodlums.

If you are indeed an Izon man, then I ask that you consider the half-century that elapsed between the time crude oil was first EXPLOITED beneath the soil of your ancestral homeland, and the time your home-boy Johny B. Goodluck ascended to power as the FIRST president with blood ties to the swamps and seas from whence petroleum, Nigeria's life-blood, springs.   When you visit "your" capital, Abuja, look at the signs of affluence around you, and note how starkly they contrast with the dying creeks and islands of the Niger Delta, where oil spills and gas flaring have reduced an entire people to a vanishing species in their own homes, by poisoning both the waters they fish, and the land they TRY to farm.

Considering Nigeria's upcoming electoral choice between an expired and terminally ill ex-military tyrant, Ayatollah Buggari, one one hand,  and an Izon, Itshekiri, Urhobo or Ikale tribesman on the other, the choice for Nigeria's next president must, in the interest of lasting PEACE, reflect both an overdue acknowledgement of the role crude oil income has played in Nigeria's chequered history, along with a resounding REFUSAL to consider inviting the Demons of Nigeria Past into ANY role of political significance, for as long as they waste precious oxygen.

So even the great Jakumo isn't above tribal politics?

As of October/November last year I was in staunch support of GEJ for the same selfish reasons. Then the man by his own actions opened my eyes.
This has little to do with a President with 'blood ties to the Niger Delta'. All their thieving Governors (Ibori, Odili, Alams, Attah etc) and Local government chairmen that further subjected the people of the Niger Delta to suffering, where are they from? Potiskum? Alams liberated 50 billion Naira meant for his state. Odili and Ibori are mentioned in the same breath with sums approaching N100 billion. How many hospitals, schools, roads etc do you think would have been in place if these brigands had been honest. Yet they are from the oil producing areas too.

Nigerians are such cowards. No one is asking anyone to set himself ablaze like that poor guy did in Tunisia. Nobody is being egged on to enter the streets and brave bullets like the Egyptians and Libyan people. All that is being asked of this nation of 150 million fatalistic people is to come out to vote out the corrupt, lawless and domineering party that has run this country so inefficiently, that has destroyed any hope of Nigeria regaining her place of glory.
All we have been asked to do is to kick out the bastar'ds that frittered away tens of billions of dollars with only comatose power plants and refineries to show for it, the same crooks that have destroyed our Universities, the same crooks that has ensured that unbridled thievery and mediocrity is the order of the day.

I don't know about you guys but I have a baby daughter for who i will do anything to improve Nigeria for. I want to join efforts to arrest this decline so that there will be a better future for the next generation of Nigerians. I recognize the grave danger in allowing Nigeria to become a one-party state, especially when that dominant party is so pathetic.
I'm going to vote Buhari. Apart from being (relatively, at least) honest and disciplined, he's the only one with a realistic chance of defeating the PDP worm in April 2011. Unlike you i care little for my president's religion or tribe. I only want results! I want progress!
Hopefully, more of my Nigerian brethren will put aside their selfishness and their cowardice, grow some balls and join the Nigerian revolution.

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=628373.msg7958118#msg7958118 date=1300740570]Its pathetic to see. . . seemingly smart otherwise sane Nigerians, supporting a clown like Buhari

Too sick to Govern effectively, we will probably be taken back to the dark years of Abachas rule. . .where the major mustafas of this world hijack power

because Mohammed Abacha is Buharis Top Financier and donor. . .money from Nigerias looted Funds no doubt. . .

The Lack of Intellectual heft of many a Nairalander is quite mind- boggling, . .[/quote]To be honest, it's even worse to see any educated person supporting GEJ and the PDP by extension.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=627401.msg7947921#msg7947921 date=1300608653]There was never slavery in africa until it was commercialised by the europeans.[/quote]Shame on you for this statement.

Read this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_slave_trade

An excerpt

Trans-Saharan trade

The very earliest external slave trade was the trans-Saharan slave trade[/b]. Although there had long been some trading up the Nile River and very limited trading across the western desert, the transportation of large numbers of slaves did not become viable until camels were introduced from Arabia in the 10th century. By this point, a trans-Saharan trading network came into being to transport slaves north. Zanzibar was once East Africa's main slave-trading port, and under Omani Arabs in the 19th century as many as 50,000 slaves were passing through the city each year.[30][31] [b]Most historians estimate that between 11 and 18 million African slaves crossed the Red Sea, Indian Ocean, and Sahara Desert from 650 AD to 1900 AD

bisiaet:
Pls read more of the post below in www.sunnewsonline.com sunday edition


Let the the almighty saint Ribadu and Buhari come and defend this please.

I'm sure they will definitely move to defend themselves as soon as GEJ explains what happened to the strong case of money laundering linked to Dame Patience.
We'd also like the first family to take full responsibility for the lives lost during the Ill-advised sharing of rice in abuja last year.
Finally, we'd like your opinion on whether being seen with the likes of Anenih, Alams and Alao-akala is any better than being seen with Tinubu.

We're discussing how Buhari answered; what of what the clueless GEJ has promised to do? He's promised to build 10 more federal universities while the original Universities rot away.
No plans to fix the decaying universities, only mumbled promises to build more with meager amounts of money.
As far as Education is concerned, the PDP is the issue and Jonathan will be a continuation of that problem if elected. That is all.

The big loser of the day is GEJ.

babaogun:
There are tens of millions of folks in Nigeria who will see this as an opportunity to own a phone. There needs to be someone to cater for low-end users.

My only criticism would be warranty of kokomobile and how prospective buyers will be compensated if factory faults are detected.

The music industry is becoming highly competitive and these guys need to start thinking of life after music.

Are you seriously implying that low end phones didn't exist in Nigeria before now?!

silvasurfa:
MEHN I RESPECT THIS GUY!!! REALLY NICE AND INSPIRING,
SHOWS A LOT OF BUSINESS SENSE,

TO ALL YOU HATERS YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES,I WONDER WHY WE FIND IT DIFFICULT TO CELEBRATE OUR OWN,

I'M NO CELEBRITY-FREAK OR backside-KISSER BUT I DEFINITELY APPLAUD HIS MIND-SET.
THE J-LOS',P DIDDYS AND BOYONCES OF THIS WORLD ARE DOING IT,WAT MAKES HIM DIFFERENT,
IT WILL ALSO CREATE SMALL SALES/MARKETING JOBS FOR SOME UNEMPLOYED FOLKS,

MY ONLY WORRY IS THAT HE DOESNT BECOME TOO PUFFED UP, BUT I GUESS THATS SOMETHING HE HAS TO DEAL WITH HIMSELF.

See Nigerian bootlickers! Once somebody airs constructive criticism he is automatically termed a 'hater'.

Kudos to all those who will buy this phone, i myself won't be caught dead using a low-end dumbphone.

otumfour:
Gingerbread

Yes, i get the message you're trying to pass in those screenshots.

too bad for you that the testing company has no admitted that the tests were flawed and did not take into consideration the improvements in iOS Safari browser in iOS 4.3.

let's move away from trolling, shall we?

hercules07:
I remember Eko Ile and myself stating that the Nurses will be next, now it has happened, let Fashola use all of the 2011 budget to pay those in health care, afterall, when our health is taken care of, the state will progress, teacher do not need salaries, other civil servants can go to hell, why cant these people resign if their salaries are not enough, there is a need to overhaul the union laws, if you are involved in critical sector, you can only do partial strikes.

Why don't you geniuses tell us what 'partial strikes' are?

If the Government designates any sector as 'critical', then it must give it special attention to ensure everything runs smoothly. Shebi you're happy to hear that these same health workers are being owed up to eight months arrears for their clinical allowance?

Pics attached!

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=625494.msg7932374#msg7932374 date=1300380568]@kalokalo: It is hard to sack them all. Will take too long to recruit new ones. Perhaps the hospitals need to be privatized and decentralized. Some sort of healthcare plan where the Lagos State government contracts out the work to a private company? Perhaps this will limit their ability to strike? I'm not sure.

This is one of those situations where a private corporation will have far greater ability to avoid being manipulated by politically-adept nurses who hold you at gunpoint (figuratively speaking) one month to an election. Somehow private corporations are much better at union-busting than governments are [/quote]So when you privatize hospitals and clinics, what happens to Government run health programmes? What happens to free healthcare to kids and nursing mothers?

Please stop mentioning this 'one month to election' thing, i see you as one of the more intelligent fellows here on NL but adopting the rhetoric of the political worms is not doing you any favours. Why are people supposed to suspend their demands just because it's near election period?
You call it blackmail, i call it leverage. Warning strikes had been issued and had not been heeded. Why should they wait for a Government to cook up new excuses?

This is not about 'Union busting'. it is about appreciation of the people working in such tough conditions. These lagos health workers work FAR harder than their counterparts elsewhere, including those in the Federal Government employment. If you truly stand for truth and justice, why no question the decency of State Governors that suddenly announce many free medical initiatives to their adoring public without considering the health workers whose work load has just been tripled?
Don't let the N232,000 in the NEXT Article deceive you; that is the proposed salary for a Chief Nursing officer on Grade 14 (some people only get to this kind of level after 15 years of service). The people putting long shifts at work on Grade 7, what do you think they go home with? Do we really need our health workers to scrounge and suffer for a living?

When state governments rolls out new schemes to tackle this issue in his state, they'll be lauded by everyone. But little attention is paid to the people working behind the scenes until they protest like this.

kalokalo:
[b]
Would strike be an option for these nurses and doctors if they were working for a private hospital? [/b]I'm sure we all know the answer to this question! The power of these evil unions need to be broken once and for all. If Lagos state health workers feel they are not getting the right remuneration, simply resign and go work for a private hospital (where they get paid far less) or go work for the federal government.


If I was Fashola, I would simply dismiss all the workers and advertise for new ones. They will lose in court as there is no court that can force an employer to pay the wages his employee is demanding and still be required to keep that employee. We have far better doctors in India, China and Malaysia etc earning the equivalent of N75000 per month. These are countries that Nigerians flock to for health-care and those health professionals do not even work for their government like our own vision-less health workers.


They strike because there is no accountability and they know they can get away with it. If they can, why can't this unions call for strike in private hospitals where they pay FAR LESS and see if those employees will heed them? They know what will happen so they won't

Haha, such wise words indeed.
Sack thousands of midwives, nurses, radiologists etc and advertise for others. Naturally, just like Fashola it seems the lives that will be lost in the months between dismissal and full re-staffing is of no importance to you. That is if you're going to be able to fully re-staff.
You next gem of 'wisdom' is even more hilarious. Sack Nigerians and replace them with thousands of expatriates who will definitely earn more, even without the necessary expenses like housing. Genius!

I'm not sure where you get the idea that many of these people are even earning up to the 75k you're mentioning. Either way, you're pretty hilarious.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=625494.msg7930984#msg7930984 date=1300368228]It is pure blackmail. Lagos State has already passed a budget for the year. Nurses decide to strike. If you don't give into their demands, innocent citizens die.

If you do give into their demands, you have to redo the budget and raise taxes on the people. Not to mention the additional pressure of them doing it right before an election.

How is this not completely evil, what the nurses are doing?[/quote]So the 8 months arrears of clinical allowance they are demanding for, is it an evil demand too?


[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=625494.msg7930984#msg7930984 date=1300368228]In what civilized country are public workers in critical services (healthcare, police, firefighters, etc) allowed to strike completely like this? Partial strikes yes, but complete ones. . . where does this happen, when the consequences of striking are loss of life/property for citizens?[/quote]'allowed to strike'?
Perhaps in your opinion they should be arrested and set upon by dogs and thugs.
In the 'civilized countries' you talk about, these people would not be 'allowed' to go on a full scale strike after giving notice and a warning strike. It is only in Nigeria that a critical service personnel will give a warning strike and the powers that be will continue on with their lives as if nothing happened.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'Partial strikes'. When full scale strikes have little effect on the pot-bellied politicians, why would a 'partial strike' succeed?

Nook Color, rooted with Gingerbread (CM7 + elements of CM8) for sale

Let these people go and sit down jo!

All hail messiah Fashola!

Why do you people show so much intolerance?
Basic JSS1 Social Studies tells us that there are three main religions in Nigeria

1. Christianity
2. Islam
3. African Traditional Religion

It is an act of extreme hypocrisy for Christians to verbally attack Nigerians practicing African Traditional religion and yet complain when they are targeted by the likes of Boko haram elsewhere. Every single one of those three religions has aspects that can be derided for being 'backward' by people inclined only towards science and modernism.

otokx:
Story story

The only reason why this may fail is because of the rascally and unscrupulous nature of very many Nigerians who will seek out ways to disrupt the system.

SO instead of saying 'Story, Story', why not make a commitment to everyone here that you will monitor the elections in your own polling unit, stay until the voting is concluded and then wait for the count.


I am going to demand this of every one who feels that the elections will be an exercise in futility.

[quote author=kody-licky link=topic=622908.msg7914767#msg7914767 date=1300188011]exactly wat they did but putting them away!!!
by the way, nobody said anything abt banning protests
just do it the right way and nobody gets locked-up hurt!!![/quote]You should be ashamed of yourself for spouting this nonsense.
Basic human rights are being trampled upon and you're here cheering it on. Who knows if tommorrow it may be your turn?

SOme of us have gotten so used to the rot in Nigeria that we're happy with the status quo.

ziccoit:
America has a constitution that proclaimed the country "a free democracy" Where you can wake up one day, take your bath and walk to your place of work unclothed. You may even choose to visit as may brothels as you wish.

   " Saudi Arabia,Afghanistan or Pakistan" as stated are Islamic countries with ISLAMIC Constitutions that frown against anything Non-Islamic. If those countries constitutions say no to what you questioned above, so be it according to their Constitution.

And what about the attacks on Christians in Turkey and Egypt?

ROSSIKE:
Can you see what FREE PEOPLE around the world are already thinking based on the Japan incident?

They're saying ''Hey, this nuclear plant business may not be such a good idea afterall.''


Very much unlike our resident  Japan-adoring subservient goats.



Happy reading:


The ongoing nuclear crisis in Japan has sparked new life in the nuclear energy debate in many countries. And the fear for possible nuclear accidents in other countries forces politicians to reconsider and review their current energy policy stance.

The continued protests against nuclear energy in Germany has seen an upswing during these past days. About 60,000 people formed a chain around a nuclear power station in Germany this weekend to protest its continued operation. And chancellor Angela Merkel is expected to announce the suspension of the country’s plans to extend the life of its nuclear power stations later today, the Guardian reports.


In USA people and politicians are starting to question President Barack Obama’s plans to expand and build new nuclear power plants to meet growing energy demands in the country. The independent and strongly pro-nuclear Senator Joe Lieberman, chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, have said that the USA should “put the brakes on nuclear power plants“:

“I don’t want to stop the building of nuclear power plants. But I think we’ve got to kind of quietly put, quickly put, the brakes on until we can absorb what has happened in Japan as a result of the earthquake and the tsunami and then see what more, if anything, we can demand of the new power plants that are coming on line.”

In Britain the Green lawmaker Caroline Lucas have said that the Japanese nuclear crisis strengthens the case against new nuclear construction. “You will never be able to completely design out human error, design failure or natural disaster,” she said. Walt Patterson, associate fellow at London’s Chatham House thinktank, said that, the financial damages of a potential nuclear accident also played a big role in shaping the energy debate in Brian and Europe.

“That is undoubtedly going to filter back to the debate in Europe as a further factor in the very dubious economics of these plants,” he told Reuters.

The plans to expand nuclear energy in India for around $175 billion might, in light of the current situation in Japan, see a strong public backlash, analysts and experts say:

“The Japan accident has created a very, very tough situation for India, actual implementation of nuclear power projects will now certainly take a backseat,” said Debasish Mishra, Mumbai-based senior director at Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu. “It will be very difficult to sell the idea of nuclear power to people for any political party after the Japan disaster.”

While the nuclear crisis in Japan might not change the Chinese government’s plans to develop more nuclear power it could force China to review their energy policies. The current situation in Japan “may become a factor in the drafting of China’s energy plans, Xie Zhenhua, vice chairman of the National Development and Reform Commission, said in Beijing.”

“The accident in Japan may trigger increased public concerns over building atomic plants,” said Dave Dai, a Hong Kong-based analyst at Daiwa Securities Capital Markets Co. “China will become more cautious while developing nuclear-power plants but is unlikely to alter its long-term nuclear development plans.


http://www.green-blog.org/2011/03/14/nuclear-energy-might-see-increased-opposition-after-japan-crisis/


None of these FREE PEOPLE is sitting somehwere saying ''Oh, you know these Japanese are geniuses! We cannot possibly question whatever they do! Afterall we're not as industrially advanced as them''.

See because only Nigerian SLAVES think and talk like that.

I can't comprehend what you're trying to accomplish with this post. Anti-nuclear activists and protests have been in existence since the 1960s. Many people in Japan had opposed all forms of Nuclear energy even since the 1970s.

Every country with Nuclear plants is currently studying the japanese situation and ensuring that they are adequately protected against such an event happening.

So what else is new?

Nobody here is saying that the Japanese people are not to be questioned. That only exists as a figment of your deranged mind. But saying the Japanese people were stupi.d for building plants to generate much of their electricity is just brainless. Saying they were 'greedy' for building plants to power their homes and industries is just totally demented.

It's  a pity so many intelligent people have given you an audience today.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=623812.msg7913090#msg7913090 date=1300170480]Why do benin people believe in jazz so much ? They are just wasting their time on somebody that they can easily charge to court for assault.what is special about the son of an oba ? If these peopl were to rule Nigeria,we would have become their slaves.
There is no way for absolutism by anybody including the so called mystical oba of benin.Nigeria's constitution is supreme than any occult law.[/quote]Why do you people show so much intolerance?
Basic JSS1 Social Studies tells us that there are three main religions in Nigeria

1. Christianity
2. Islam
3. African Traditional Religion

It is an act of extreme hypocrisy for Christians to verbally attack Nigerians practicing African Traditional religion and yet complain when they are targeted by the likes of Boko haram elsewhere. Every single one of those three religions has aspects that can be derided for being 'backward' by people inclined only towards science and modernism.