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noetic2:Another prospective student of a theological college preaching sexual immorality. I'll point out your ignorance to your face. What is sexual immorality in your own world? Where was it said that he had sex with Angel and Laura? What has sexual immorality got to do with a guy falling out of "likeness" from one girl and falling in "love" with another? And what is lust? Yes lust goes with sexual fantasies but I don't see any here neither does anyone else. . . . . . Search yourself and tell who's showing off ignorance. I'm not about to banter words with you. luxoire:I'll break that down for you. She has achieved all she has by profound determination and from all descriptions of who she is, she's a go-getter. She believes she can get whatever she wants whenever she wants them and that includes a man for herself; I don't see anything wrong in thinking she could make him hers, which sadly, didn't work for her. It has worked out for a lot of people and if that was the case here this thread would never have existed at all. If given the choice, being a determined, strong willed woman she is, she will want to take her chance and give it a try --- don't be so surprised. His friends were friendly and some ladies still think friends have influence on one another especially in opinion making. |
sistawoman:Yes anything taken out of proportion and context will definitely look horrible. I'm not asking him to safely assume she's insulting her because she has an American citizenship. She might be going through some bad moments and have a lot going through her minds and sure doesn't want to bother him about it, or she's being seriously sarcastic and it becomes hard for her to handle it in the right proportion, it might even be a newly discovered attitude and worst still maybe she's on crack -- there are many reasons besides her national status. But what I'm saying is, from experiences gathered from people around him, he may have felt safe to assume so. I'm not saying he's right but that if he finds out that's why she's been awkward then he should let go if he knows he can't stand it. For me, I don't think she can all of a sudden start hurling insults at him for no reason; there's got to be something major about it. Maybe she's even tired of the guy and wants to find a smart way to get rid of the guy because for some reasons, I think an insulting attitude can't be developed overnight, not even after 2 years of relationship. My line of suggestion still remains that he talks to her and find out what is going on -- then it'll all be fair. Right now whatever decision he makes will be rash and I don't think he should ignore her calls or messages, they should talk it through |
sistawoman:He says he's been with her for 2 years. In my opinion, I think there's more to it than makes the eye. If she suddenly starts to insult him, he as the man in the relationship, might know why she's suddenly nasty. He doesn't have to safely decide and jump to conclusions, he still has to talk to her and know why -- but I'm of the opinion that he knows where she's driving towards. However, I have to tell you though, 60% of Nigerian women who have US citizenship look down on their men because they think they have attained what's the biggest dream for a "lazy African" --- there are a few who are exceptional to this. I have seen situations where women won Green card lottery and they just took their kids and left the men on their own, I am sure and still convinced that it was done out of unnecessary pride which is common among some Nigerian women. Thank God for civilization, they are getting out to see more of what the outside world has to offer and they are being more respectful these days --- I still make exceptions to women who were raised there from childhood. But the fact still remains 60% of those who leave here to there at rather older age will be puffed up at their men and that is what I think the poster is suggesting especially, as I am certain about, when he must have witnessed a lot of that around him. The questions you asked him are however good, but I don't think any of that could have warranted her to call him names(fool, mad, stupid, shit, bla bla bla) doesn't speak well at all and I don't think any man or woman should stand or endure that in a relationship. Respect is reciprocal and should be accorded to each other in that relationship and none of them should for any reason take advantage of an upper edge they have on the other, to insult or maltreat the other party after all, this is a relationship. |
whitelexi:I'm laughing at that bold part. Her mom a lawyer, a radical one at that and wanting to put her career to tow a dangerous line when she knows she has no case? When did it become a crime to break someone's heart, legally that is? Even if she has a baby for him, so what? There's nothing to tie down. . . . . she'll have the baby and your friend Puffy will start to pay child support(thanks to his ever loyal friends). There's nothing as far as I'm concerned, that's alarming from her family's end. If she's pregnant, Puffy should accompany her to see a doctor and ascertain this NOW! Puffy is working himself up about a situation that's already sort itself out. luxoire: |
Another fake currency printer on the loose. Can you work on US Dollars and British Pound Sterling? They are worth all your artistry and Naira isn't really worth all these hard-work anyway. You're really good at this but I don't think anyone should ask what you do because you're obviously in London or Oluwole printing currency notes and "ori olori" |
You can't believe it but I'm from ages ago --- precisely 200 years ago, I look as old as Abraham and think as Methuselah at 900 years. Bottom line, I am 200 years. What's the meaning of this thread anyways? Now, this poster is buttressing someone's point who said people on NL are idlers. Why don't you for a start be exemplary and tell us your age? ![]() |
Yes me too. I've got to catch some sleep now. We'll pick it up from where we left off tomorrow |
FL Gators:I will answer accordingly to how I highlight them in bold texts. First of all, it's a matter of the heart, because lust starts from the heart. If you read your Holy Bible so well, you'll know starts from the heart and not from the head. Jesus said and I can't remember the book and verse in the Bible that if a man lusts in his own heart, he has committed adultery. When you get hurt in the end of the lust, what's affected? The heart. When you're enjoying the ecstasy, where do you feel the happiness most? The heart. It all comes from the heart as well because everything you do while the fling lasts is in correlation with the heart. No, the only way to get about the addiction is not by understanding what the consequences of her actions are on others; it has to start with her first. When she feels the consequences of what she's doing to herself, she'll come down to her senses in a very sequential order, when she's about three-quarter recovered, she'll start thinking of what she's been doing to the other women on the other side. True and complete healing commences when you start catching up with what negative effects the predicament have had on you all along. Why she has chosen young men is because she's addicted to it, addiction sprouts when you excessively above everything else, derive enjoyment and highness from a situation, someone, or a substance. If I'm into her and know I won't leave my woman depends on what I want from her. If I am a gold digger, I will give in to her so I can tap from her wealth, knowing that she's lonely, looking for love(though on the wrong path), has a low self esteem and knowing she doesn't have any other choice(even though we're two proves how low her self-esteem is). I will do everything she wants just to get what I want but I will be determined that no matter what I won't leave my woman. As well, I could cling to her for adventure reasons . . . . . . . maybe I love cheating or maybe I love to explore women--- just maybe she has some nice curves that makes me go like "dayum I gotta have that" then I get in to find out she's good on bed and knows how to suck it up to me, now do you honestly think I'd leave my woman for her because she's good in bed? No! A relationship has much more to it than sex. I'll keep getting it from her until I find her insistence on getting me to leave my woman becomes troubling and uncontrollable. The real women of these guys are concerned more but more pressure is on the guys because they have to make up all sorts of lies all the time and when lies start to pile up on you in a relationship, trust me, that's the most troubling offense -- you go to bed thinking about it, you have nightmares about it and you wake up to its reality. This happens everyday but guys who can't control how they think fall into this trap and end up regretting it as they will have with their short-sighted reasonings and actions, lose the best wife they could ever had. |
[quote author=na2day? link=topic=295098.msg4176253#msg4176253 date=1247455215]--sighs-- it was nice knowing u |
[quote author=na2day? link=topic=295098.msg4176245#msg4176245 date=1247454324]she is gathering her facts to make a good case, i only hope she does not release the gators on u ![]() FYI: florida is the farthermost point from the internet, it takes a while for messages to show up [/quote]And where is California? Her facts must be so potent that they will prove a white garment is a black jeans. . As for gators, I grew up with them. I'm still waiting . . . . . |
[quote author=na2day? link=topic=295098.msg4176236#msg4176236 date=1247453688][size=3pt]*****taking a sit by the corner and watching TheSeeker and FL Gators go at it; my money is on FL Gators though******[/size] [/quote]Wow! I'm still waiting on your FL Gators. She makes a good and intelligent lawyer but I'm still waiting on her |
I will start by answering your question in line with your topic. Will I take shit from my "fiance" because of her American citizenship? No I won't, why? Because I'm content with wherever I am from. I don't care who's an American and who's not. Wherever you find yourself, make an impact there. The problem you guys have is at the mention of American or British citizenship, you're ready to give in all you got to be citizens. That's total bullshit to me. This "relationship" to me isn't about love, it's about getting married for the sole sake of getting an American citizenship which she may have suspected your desperation about, hence her ugly utterances at you. Since that is what you want, you should take the insults --- sorry if that was harsh but I'm still going in line with your topic. If it is about love, I think you have to let your stance known to her and let her understand this isn't about her damn blue passport but about how you both feel about each other at least in your opinion. Let her understand that if that persists for another one month, you'll sever the relationship and if it continues for another month, please do as you have threatened. If she doesn't come to terms with herself and make amends with you then she's not worth the stress. But if that blue passport is so important to you, please take all the shits but what happens if you dumps you along the line? All the same I think you tow the caution line and be really careful or your pride will be sold for a cheap passport. |
Aus9ja:What did I hear you say? Special proposals lasts a lifetime? In what sense please? Is that supposed to be the marriage? |
FL Gators:I'm not being in support of such attitudes but what we're talking here is being adults and making choices that we feel is right for us. We often don't make the right choices, we try to turn some around in the middle to suit an end point we had earlier anticipated which of course didn't seem to be coming up when the whole plans started off. We're digressing from the thread here but oh well it's a forum. When we make choices, sometimes, when it comes to matters of the heart we don't seem to know what is proper at some point most especially when we're straying in the wrong direction and doing what everyone speaks out against. It is not proper to cheat in a relationship or marriage but I still maintain that whatever choice the cheating party makes, it's still a choice --- right or wrong. People can start to criticize and even if she's going to look back and make amends, she's already and for once made that choice, a regret later will transform that former "choice" into a "mistake". Now back to the thread, she's addicted to unavailable men, if I was one of those men would I simply let go of my real woman and stick to her? I don't think so, , , , , , not because of any other reason but because it lies within my conscience not to do it, if I on the other hand consider her request, it's my choice and she can't be blamed. The problem we have women blaming other women for taking their guys when their guys were the one who made the final choice. When he sleeps with her, is he under a spell, a charm or any kind of mojo? No! It sweetens him when he does and his woman keeps whining that another woman's taken over his man. When she calls him and he's at the other woman's, who hangs up the phone? Who doesn't answer the phone? Who puts up all the lies to his woman? Him. Who made those choices? Him. Did she put those words, actions and lies in him? No! He chose to do it. I'm making you understand it's the man's choice not the woman's. |
FL Gators:The emboldened part is why I said you're being sentimental and not speaking from what the thread is originally about, not just that, but you're not being realistic to me --- they aren't balanced enough. Cheating starts from a point and takes probably a long process but the end point usually is, one of the relationships has to stop, either the marriage or the fling. You also said the guy doesn't have a right to trespass, yes that is very right and yes the woman has the right to make any choice of man she wants whether it's found within moral rights or not but it is left to the man to make his decision -- whether to respect his relationship with his woman and keep off of the estranged woman or does otherwise. As for my wife and the cheating panorama, she gave the guy the heads up to keep trying until he hits the spot and we guys are adamant, only a few of us care if a woman is married as long as we are very interested in her, if she gives him "Back off" sign he'd recoil or at most try one more time or twice which a repeatedly but a more fierce disagreement will kill his motions entirely --- now that is a choice. If you happen to have an affair with any other man besides your man, would you in your honest self name that snatching? Of course not rather you will understand within you that it was your choice -- be it wrong or right. |
eyonigger:And I refuse to trade jabs with you after this one because silence, they say, is the best answer to a fool and in your case you're not just a fool but a twisted and caper fool. Calling people names when they've had absolutely nothing to do with you sounds more pervert to me or anyone like a mentally derailed sick being who needs urgent attention from a rehab facility. I know some people who could use a brain transplant as your brain has still until now never been used! Twerp! |
FL Gators:Yes myself as an example, if my wife, whether or not she's in love with me had another man come to her, and romances my wife, talks her up and convinces her enough to have a relationship with him, and she agrees to that, I wouldn't call that a snatch neither does the dictionary term it that -- she simply chose the guy over me and that lays in her opinion. You snatch something when you take it forcibly not when there's an agreement -- there's a case of snatch where's an inequality. I wouldn't wish that my wife goes with another man but if she had chosen to do so, what'd I do? Go on air and start to scream? No, that'd be ridiculous - it means my game wasn't tight enough to keep her from going with another man. In the end like I had said earlier, it's her choice to make. . . . it's her call. And wait a minute, if I see it coming, the most I can do is talk to her and know why and what she intends to do but I CAN'T force her not to have an affair if she wants to, that means if she does, I have the right to take whatever action I want and a divorce isn't an exclusion -- life goes on, it never stops, everything can not be right. Sometimes you have to taste the bitter part of life so you know and appreciate what you have. However, in this context, I'm not making an excuse for her, if she's addicted to unavailable men and these men find it in their morals to leave their women and be with her, it's a matter of choice cum agreement, not snatch like you purported. When there's a baron, a serial killer, a nasty man keeping my wife from me in his mansion under a kidnap, that is a typical example of snatch(which I doubt happens anymore) |
FL Gators:Now you're taking this real personal. How and why do you think I'm making up excuses for her? Where in my previous posts did I support what she did? We're talking about her addiction here not the other women in the picture. This wasn't a generalized subject, yes, there are other women in the picture but I do believe if a guy is snatched for his woman by another woman, then either the girl's game is not tight or the man was never really in love with his supposed woman. There's nothing like snatch. If I'm dating someone else, it's my choice to let or not let anyone ruin my relationship --- it comes down to whether you want to do it or not. Where were the men looking when they were dating? Weren't they talking or having sex? What were they thinking? I'm not advocating for her but since you've brought the other women into the picture, well, I have to put it to you this --- she's not at fault if she eventually were able to snatch any one of these men, it is the men who are. Don't bring personal sentiments into this. These guys aren't spoon-fed that is why they knew they had to leave her when they hahve had what they wanted, if they had chosen to do otherwise, it'd have been their fault and not hers. Do you get it now? |
FL Gators:I disagree. She's looked and still is looking down on herself, she just hasn't realized that. spoilt:Yes she is precious, yes, in your eyes, in your dreams and in her worst nightmare --- Isn't she wonderfully precious? . She makes me want to cancel her womanhood membership and turn her into a dumb, bald man |
noetic2:Crappy shit! And what moral justification do you have to say he's stupid? What makes you imply he thinks he'll get away with it. If you understand what the poster is saying, he's a kind of guy who isn't head over heels with women but with these kinds of men, be sure that when they want something in a woman, they go for it and that's absolutely devoid of any sexual immorality or fantasies as some might choose to call it. And just exactly how he's going to destroy himself? Be realistic and don't let us be so blinded with sentiments. His friends acted on sentiments and now Angel, so sorry to say, will be the payee here(the receiving end of a brutal but meaningful decision from Puffy). No2Atheism:No, I don't see him as that kind of guy and none of what he said has reflected that. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder -- I totally agree. Beyonce is widely thought to be sexy and all of that with nice shapes and all that, but in my humble opinion, I think Nicole Scherzinger (Pussy Cat Dolls) is more beautiful and sexier. People are just obsessed with Beyonce because she's been known from the 'ol days of Destiny's Child and to top it all is married to Jay Z. The way Jay goes on praising her makes her more admirable as well as her music but in terms of beauty, in my eyes, she comes after my most beautiful Nicole Scherzinger -- She's so hot! I'm not asking anyone to support me on that but hey, beauty is in the eyes of a good beholder |
I don't see anything wrong in what Puffy has done. Simply because you guys think Angel is good for him doesn't make it good for him. It's totally whack that you talked him into a relationship. Obviously, he's an adult and if he wants to be in a relationship with anyone, he'll know when and with who --- you didn't leave him a choice to do that. Unless he's a gold digger, a personality I doubt he has from your description of him, Angel may not be the kind of woman he wants and only him can know that. Having a steady job, money, being a British citizen, sexy shape and curves and all doesn't make her the right woman for him just because you(friends) think so. I'm not detesting your observation that she may be the right woman for him but he has the final say and no matter how hard it might be for Angel and the rest of you guys to handle, he's the one who will end up telling what he wants and what he doesn't want. There's nothing wrong in matchmaking --- it's worked wonderfully and worst in other situations -- it's all about how they click together and if they start to see if they are cut out for each other. He was playing along with Angel because his friends(yourself and others) pushed him into it, he had to oblige you, he probably was going in for fun and Angel took that so serious. He also was enjoying how it felt to have a relationship with a woman but he has no prospects of getting married to her --- not even in the least thing he thinks if he's honest with y'all. Meeting Angel's family sure didn't and will never guarantee that she has eventually got him to take her to the altar(that's a wrong assumption on most part for the ladies). Relationship comes about when you have the first attraction to that one person, you get closer to them, know them more, know what and what they do and don't like and want, their disabilities, their failures, everything about them. It's so interesting how a good relationship works out --- it's simply fun, rigorous as is wonderful. If Laura is the girl he wants to be with, let him go ahead and start it off with her, doesn't matter if she's Angel's friend. They are all adults and know what they want. Angel shouldn't take it so hard, of course it'd hurt that she's losing him to one of her supposed trusted friend, but there's nothing she can do about it. Let me go further by explaining that there was nothing wrong in her making her intentions known to Puffy at the first place neither was there anything wrong with you guys talking him into the relationship but what I see wrong is you blaming him and pushing him deeper in a relationship that he doesn't want to be in --- if you force him in he'll end up hurting Angel and don't be so surprised when this happens. If you, for any reason, think the relationship with Laura won't work, leave him to deal with that, after all not all relationships work out and every relationship brings about different experiences which you may or may not apply in future relationship(s). Every physical qualities of a girl he wants is what he's found in Laura --- that is what is called Chemistry. That's the first step to a meaningful relationship. For instance, I might like a girl but we may not have Chemistry because she's blind or dumb or even deaf while it might be good for some -- but because she's a good girl doesn't mean she's right for me -- because to me she is disabled and the kind of disability she has doesn't and will not work for my person(but if I happen to have been in the relationship before any of those happened, I'll still press on). Lexi, let him be and do whatever he wants. If Angel is matured enough, she'll understand, if not now, later. You don't have to openly support him in the presence of either Laura or Angel but let him do what he wants. He seems like a principled guy to me who knows what he wants and no, I don't think he's making excuses up to leave Angel -- because from your total description of Angel, every man, especially a gold digger will want to be with her but he chose not to and he knows why. Do you by chance know maybe Angel is so proud and egocentric because of what she's achieved and Puffy didn't want to tell you because he feels it'd be a personal business? Do you believe the girl is a wholly full-of-good-character kind of girl? Maybe she's not all you think and Puffy knows and is in the best position to know better. You may ask why he knew all these and still was going on about meeting her family and friends, well he knows better and I think you need to ask him that but if you ask me, he's enjoying the publicity while it lasted. |
Why are you worried about how you say it to her? Because no matter how, where and when you say it to her, it doesn't matter as long as it you're coming to the same focal point as anyone else --- the question of "will you marry me?" Go ahead and do it the best way you feel comfortable and don't be shy about it, that's so important. |
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C2H5OH:What did you say to him anyways? I don't care what you say to him but he's as numb and dumb as my cold nose. |
If you are spying, drill or doing whatever on your partner's online account, what do you intend to find out? Aren't you just doing that to find out what might surprise you? Well, that's what you get when you try to find out beyond what you should know. I'm flying in the face of checking my girl's accounts online or wherever. If she thinks I should know, then she will tell me --- it's just as if you're asking your girlfriend how many men she has slept with, believe me no matter what she tells you will be too hot for you to handle. |
Depends on why you're cheating. If you're cheating because your retaliating on what your girlfriend did to you, it'd at a point hurt you as much as makes you happy -- still depends on the condition. *I'm not advocating cheating though* If you're cheating because everyone else is doing it, you'll feel good at some point and then feel bad later on. I have cheated once and I must say it felt really good at first but later on the feelings waned and I quickly realized I had to go back to my girl and work on the relationship though we broke up later but it was never on the account of cheating anyways. Generally, cheating isn't good --- for someone like myself, I can't stand pleading and saying sorry when I know I did something I can't be proud of -- best bet is never do what you can't be proud of. |
When did love become a trophy to win? |
Another SAD poster! |
FL Gators: No2Atheism:You are missing the point. She has looked down on herself. Someone used to tell me that the greatest problem for anyone is to deceive themselves. You can combat any abuse coming from anyone but when you are waging war against yourself, who fights for you? Who helps her see her values when she thinks she doesn't have any left? How will a man accept and respect her when she already thinks she's nothing? She has to work on her values but I don't think she sees that as the solution right now. |
spoilt:What does precious mean in your book? A lady's preciousness lies in how she feels about herself -- now that's precious. People might tell you how precious you are but your actions and self opinion speak otherwise. The latter is what her opinion tells us. She's disfavored and I am so sorry for her. When a lady's self esteem starts to depreciate in her own opinions portrayed by her actions, she starts to have problem and she is NO LONGER PRECIOUS! Leave precious out of this because she isn't' that. |
You said you were a player and met this girl, she caught your fancy and you settled with her. Sealed! If you were a player, how could she have pulled the characterless caper that you're scared of being pregnant? When you play girls, what do you do? Do you concede to whatever they tell you? Do you use your intelligence at all? I sure don't think so. That doesn't speak of you as a player --- not even in the last ring of players. You're ruled out of that sect of people. Like everyone else, I believe you infected the poor girl and she was being extremely devoid of any iota of common sense to trust a sucker like you as to have sex without protection. I truly pity her --- she made the wrong choice in her quest for "love". It's men like you that makes us all taste like sour grapes. Do you know what should be done to you? A tattoo on your face should read "Ladies! Beware!! Another stupid and classless man on the loose". |
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