₦airaland Forum

The PDP Presidential Primaries for the 2003 election was a national affair.

Obasanjo from SouthWest.
Ekwueme from SouthEast.
Rimi from NorthWest.
Gemade from NorthCentral.

PDP Presidential Primaries for the 1999 election was a Southern affair.

proeast:
In 2023, both parties will have no choice but to give their tickets to Igbomen, same way it done for Yorubas in 1999 for peace, equity, justice and fairness to reign. However, if peradventure you guys decide to sabotage it, then you will be handing the presidency to the North on a platter of gold.

How was it done to Yoruba in 1999 when up to 6 fellow Southerners contested the PDP national convention in Jos held in 1998?

Shame on Buhari.

The same way he was sleeping while APC legislators were waiting for him at a scheduled meeting to give direction to the party's preferred candidate for Senate President and Speaker, while the devious and unscrupulous Saraki had slept the Night in the National Assembly car park so he could gain access the following day without being noticed, to execute his unthinkable coup against his own party by denying his own fellow APC senators the right to vote in their first legislative task of electing principal officers.

This is the same way Buhari has been sleeping on matters that concern staff and family in Aso Villa.

Lalasticlala, this political history of PDP zoning need to be given a broader audience.

richie240:
Lolzing.....
Igbo 'criminal' is arrested, they shout: 'marginalization', 'he's our thief, leave him alone'.....
Yoruba 'criminal' is arrested, same ppl still shout 'marginalization'.

Which kain wahala be ds!

I swear dem swear for those guys.

Sagay212:
even in crime, they want to compare and compete. these ipods are cursed beyond redemption.

They are cursed to always compare themselves to Yorubas.

We are their nightmare.

techmo:
its an inferiority complex issue developed after post war loss trauma

he couldn't wait to compare an arrest with Yoruba just to claim victim

sometimes I pity them other times I try to make them see how lame they look for a tribe of 40 million people acting like helpless minority. and other times I just knock them since that works better

FBI had requested Allen be extradited but Nigerian government protected him and continued patronizing him, now they are doing the same for Hushpuppi by having EFCC get him to Nigerian shores .. Kanu is still not happy

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The whole tribe need to be rehabilitated after the trauma of unconditional surrender that happened after continuing a war that had already been lost with the successful economic and geographical blockade executed by the FG.

helinues:
This is more than confusion

How is that so?

kayfra:
It's the way they've been conditioned over centuries. Default clanish reaction

You know pre-colonial times, they didn't have big cities. So the clanish way of survival has been passed from generations to generations

Indeed!

They do not even have any history as a people, as their clannishness and distrust for each other stood in the way of their greater development.

kayfra:
When he was caught you all started digging up every Yoruba that has been arrested in Saudi Arabia

To what end?

Instead of condemning him and moving on, you all had to start seeking equivocation for criminal behavior from other ethnic groups

In fact, it was a shame to see a tribe that should be doing an internal reflection, begin hunting for equality in crime.

This is a tribe where every young boy with questionable wealth is either a Don K, or Don J, or high chief.

A tribe that idolizes money and only respects those with money.

What a shame.

techmo:
All this crying and whining when his charge sheet hasn't even being release, and we are not fully sure why he was arrested

Exactly!

For Invictus Obi, the allegations were already filed in court for which the warrant of arrest was granted.

So there was already factual and explicit information on his arrest from the get go.

Kanu, like his fellow bitter and emotional tribesmen, are a sorry case who must find a way to inject their own self created Igbophobia on any matter, even if it does not directly involve the Igbos.

It is an obsession that is pathological.

Was anyone surprised that hushpuppy was arrested on suspicion of fraud?

Was that newsworthy at all, compared to a supposedly clean businessman who was celebrated by Forbes, only to be revealed he was a fraudster?

Besides, even the US and UAE have refused to release any credible information on the arrest and crime of Hushpuppi and his accomplices, unlike Invictus Obi whose case had already been filed in a US court.

But I am not surprised that Kanu and his fellow traumatized clansmen are wailing even over a Yoruba.

Must the Igbos always find a way to make themselves the victims of any matter?

Haba! This thing is a mental disorder.

Let the Federal Government ban Suya that is largely made by Northerners. Igbos will claim it was targeted at them because according to IPOB Bureau of Statistics, Igbos are the largest customers of Suya joints, so it is a ploy to deny Igbos of Suya.

Atiku that lost his village polling unit, and is not sure if his village is now in Cameroon just like when he was born a Cameroonian?

Abeg mention someone else from the Northern Nigeria that has followership in his village, instead of an Alhaji from Northern Cameroon.

raumdeuter:
So the PDP you have voted for all your life won't give you priority until the APC you hate so much gives you.

You can imagine.

But the begging delight me so much.

I always love when arrogance is flattened.

Instead of begging outrightly, they have been blackmailing. Knowing they do not even have the numbers to blackmail anyone, they have been forcing their own political agenda on the SS whose political agenda is defined by the many ethnic groups that make the region.

I really pity the SouthEast.

Apawicked:
haha 3 Afonjas have quoted me already on same comment. I knew that statement alone would struck your oblong skulls and cause heartbreak.... I'm glad it did

I am also glad I reminded you that your tribe has been wailing over this Yoruba matter just like this same topic opened by a frustrated clansman.

I always enjoy seeing such topics that project your weakness and frustration.

Stop begging us not to contest.

proeast:
If you believe that APC is not under any obligation to cede its ticket to the South East, then same applies to the PDP.

If APC decides to give its ticket to Tinubu against fairness, equity and justice, then PDP can also decide to give its ticket to any Northerner of the choice, then I will see how Tinubu can win.

APC will not give its ticket to Tinubu, rather, APC will hold a primary and Yorubas that helped form the party and helped win the ongoing presidency will contest, and if planned well will also win.

Igboman should stop feeling frustrated before the contest. No one has barred you from contesting if you know how to play politics.

The same way you saw how Abiola won Tofa.

The same way you saw how Femi Gbajabiamila won the Speakership.

You will see such again in 2023, and you will wail some more.

Apawicked:
bro seriously they are no threat in 2023. They stabbed the south in 2015 thinking its wisdom but reality has started knocking on their door. Today they scream Amotekum at the top of their voice, even Tinubu because of 2023 was not here or there when he was asked for his opinion on Amotekun. The humiliation he would face will be worse than that of Abiola, Awolowo and Afonja

We are no threat yet you daily lament about our rights to contest the Primaries of a party we helped to form, that you hate so much?

We are no threat?

Yet you are not at peace and the frustration cannot be hidden till 2023 is near?

The 1998 Primaries shows that Yorubas were not gifted the PDP ticket. More so, the 2003 Primaries show that even the North contested against a sitting PDP President that was Yoruba.

In all the PDP Primaries, there was no allowance for micro-zoning to a single geopolitical region.

seunmsg:
Fair enough. No point opening silly threads and crying all over the place. No point abusing Yorubas all over social media space. No point threatening to vote for the north everyday on Nairaland. No point insulting Tinubu everyday of your life.

When it is time for election, simply go and vote for your darling Atiku and stop disturbing everybody’s peace.

They are begging with style. They want SW to allow them play it alone.

They actually want to be President more than voting for any Fulani Muslim, but they know they are useless in a contest between the SW vs SE.

It is actually good that they know their place and need support of the SS to achieve anything.

Unfortunately for them, they think all the many tribes of the SS have an Igbocentric agenda.

The same way they were surprised when the Christian MiddleBelt abandoned their phanthom Southern alliance and voted for Buhari over Jonathan in 2015.

Let them wail now, as there are more tears to come.

OfoIgbo:
See painment

So the political understanding between the SE and SS is a source of serious pain and worry for all these SW almajiris.

Please every SE and SSner must register to vote in 2023. Let us destroy the political wickedness of the SW.

SE Kwenu!!!
SS Kwenu!!
SW Ntoor!!

Hahahaha!

Igbo man and his pathological obsession of destroying Yorubas.

It never ends for these emotional cry babies.

I am actually happy that you project the weakness that you do. You are weak politically, and that is good enough for me.

Gabkosh:
I tell you Kikikiki. See how they are begging SS and MB. If they have the number, they should face us like a man.

I am happy with the frustration of the SouthEast.

This is the same region that destroyed Jonathan politically.

Now they are opening topics to wail about how Yorubas must show political mercy and gift them APC ticket.

Igbos should stop begging Yorubas over APC ticket and pursue their political ambition through the party they have been supporting.

OfoIgbo:
All you SW almajiris are making me laugh.

Well, listen and listen very well. The SW will not get an iota of support from either the SS or the SE, for betraying the only SS president that the SS has ever produced.

Today, the SW almajiris are confirmed Fulani bitches with Tinubu bowing to Buhari at every opportunity.

2023 will witness a super anti-SW voting strength from the SE and SS. There will be no mercy whatsoever. When you were betraying GEJ, you all were rejoicing with your Fulani masters and threatening to throw Igbos into the Lagoon.

I can't wait for 2023 to arrive man. I so much look forward to the disappointment that will be your portion in that year. You hurt SS, and their SE brothers will join them in hurting you back several folds. Sweet revenge cometh niggaz

I thought you posted the below before?

In one breath you agree there was no agreement, in another breath you claim betrayal?

Don't cause a stroke for your brain with all this conflicts in your emotional head.

You are the typical angry and frustrated clansman. Imagine all the wailings and indirect begging through blackmail, just to have we Yorubas gift Igbos the APC ticket.

What a shame for your tribe.

OfoIgbo:
Of course there is no agreement between the sw and the south, which is why a northerner is likely to emerge as the president in 2023 if a sw candidate runs under APC

OfoIgbo:
GEJ asked the SE to support his political ambitions, so we agreed to partner with him and the SS in that regard.

SS and SE stand together and will ensure we hurt any southerner that betrayed us.

Are you jealous of the political oneness of the SS and SE? You sought political alliance with the Fulani. Stick with them. The SS sought political oneness with us, and we will honour that agreement. You can go and hang yourself now

Even you also consider the SE as insignificant in the scheme of Nigerian affairs.

You cannot stand alone without forcing yourself on the SS and speaking for them?

What a shameless broken backbone.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Okay.

I didn't know you were Uche Secondus.

I apologize[/color]

No need apologizing, as the only answer to your "if" question is that maybe PDP will consider the option of not having a Presidential candidate at all for 2023, so no need for Presidential primaries.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]And if they don't, what will be the consequences?[/color]

There is no if, since all the options have been considered as restated below.

For the 2023 election, it is either PDP zones its President ticket to a half of the country (the whole South) without micro-zoning, like it was in 1999 (South) or 2019 (North); or the ticket is not zoned at all, allowing for an all comers affair like it was in 2003, 2006 and 2011.

UNCONFIRMED BUT ALMOST CERTAINLY ACCURATE PDP PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARIES
RESULTS - RIGHT FROM NIGERIA!

OLUSEGUN OBASANJO 1,658 67.98%
ALEX EKWUEME 521 21.36%
DON ETIEBET 106 4.35%
GRAHAM DOUGLAS 71 2.91%
JIM NWOBODO 59 2.42%
PHILIP ASIODU 12 0.49%
FRANCIS ELLAH 12 0.49%
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TOTAL 2,439 100.00
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https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/soc.culture.nigeria/e3p6UBNplJI

1998 PDP Presidential Primaries
The above 1998 Jos Convention of the PDP for the 1999 Presidential election, shows that aspirants were drawn from the 3 Southern geopolitical zones, showing there was no micro-zoning, or gifting of the party ticket to any region or tribe, besides the fact that it was exclusively zoned to the South, while the North watched from the sidelines having wielded power for about 20yrs uninterrupted (1st Oct 1979 to 29th May 1999).

2003 PDP Presidential Primaries
This was contested by Obasanjo from the SouthWest as incumbent president. There was no zoning as both Southerners and Northerners contested. Alex Ekwueme from SouthEast contested, Abubakar Rimi from NorthWest contested, and Barnabas Gemade from NorthCentral contested.

Obasanjo: 2642 votes, 75%
Ekwueme: 611 votes, 17%
Rimi: 159 votes
Gemade: 17 votes

https://reliefweb.int/report/nigeria/nigeria-obasanjo-wins-party-nomination-second-term


2006 PDP Presidential Primaries
The PDP had both Southerners and Northerners contest it 2006 Presidential primaries, where Rochas Okorocha from SouthEast was a distant 2nd to the winner, Umaru Musa Yar'Adua from the NorthWest.

2011 & 2015 PDP Presidential Primaries
Same played out in 2011 PDP primaries, when Jonathan from SouthSouth defeated Atiku from NorthEast. Also Jonathan as incumbent ran unopposed in 2014.


2019 PDP Presidential Primaries
Same micro-zoning was not allowed for the PDP Presidential primaries that was exclusively zoned to the North for the 2019 election. Atiku & Dankwambo (NorthEast), Saraki & David Mark (NorthCentral), and Tambuwal & Kwankwaso & Markafi & Turaki & Lamido (NorthWest) were the major aspirants, with Atiku as the winner.



For the South, the most recent instance of zoning was for the PDP National Chairmanship in 2017. Candidates from the SW and SS contested, and the SS was triumphant. Micro-zoning to the SW was not allowed, despite that it was only the SW that was yet to produce the PDP National chairmanship prior to that 2017 PDP convention.

For the 2023 election, it is either PDP zones its President ticket to a half of the country (the whole South) without micro-zoning, like it was in 1999 (South) or 2019 (North); or the ticket is not zoned at all, allowing for an all comers affair like it was in 2003, 2006 and 2011.

Tap0lane:
In your tripod analogy when you mean the East where is Bayelsa located ?! I think someone from there ruled for 5 years in addition to VP of 3 years so what exactly is your wail of woes about sire ?!

It is a very good question for Proeast.

proeast:
You think you're smart abi, but apparently you're not!

You said the North had ruled for about 20 years and that was why they allowed the presidency to go South without contesting. Now, what do you say about Yorubas that have ruled for 8 years as president and another 8 years as vice since the last 20 years? Is it your birth right?

What is the justification in asking another person not to contest because he has ruled enough when you yourself have ruled for same number of years?

Nigeria seats on a tripod. The North has ruled, the West has ruled, now is the turn of the East to rule. However, if out of greed the West insists on ruling again then why ask another person not to rule?

Why are you people like this? Tufiakwa!

Who asked the North not to contest?

Can a region which has ruled for 20 uninterrupted years and finally deciding to handover power to others, still handover power to its same self?

I like how you have suddenly lost your voice over the fact that when the north pushed power to the South, not only the SW contested for it.

Thankfully, even PDP has shown with its National Chairman election, that there will be no micro-zoning of power as requested by the SouthWest who were the only Southern zone yet to occupy the National Chairmanship.

Both the SW and SS contested, and the SS won. We shed no tears.

It is now you will feel the pain for all the bridges you have burnt in a multiethnic country.

All of the South will contest both PDP and APC Presidential primaries. Any Northerner who feels entitled is also welcome to exercise his/her democratic franchise.

Let the SouthEast continue wailing aimlessly.

proeast:
Why didn't every region present a candidate in 1999? Or you think the Northerners were not interested then? Or you think Obasanjo who was in prison could just come out and win?

The Yorubas where allowed to win in 1999 just to pacify the region. Every other region supported them, same way every other region should support the Igbos in 2023 for peace, stability and progress to reign.

What manner of political ignoramus is this dude?

So the North who were handing over from military rule since ruling from 1979 (20yrs uninterrupted), chose to take an obvious rest, and let the South slug it out.

Did Alex Ekwueme, Don Etiebet, Alabo Graham Douglas and others not contest for the PDP presidential ticket for the 1999 election?

Are those politicians not from SouthEast and SouthSouth?

Did Alex Ekwueme not contest for the 2003 PDP ticket, and lost again to Obasanjo?

So, even the PDP ticket for 2023 will be contested by the SouthWest.

proeast:
That is just it, we will even reject PDP candidacy if APC refuses to do the right thing by giving the ticket to an Igbo man.

In 1999, Nigerians endured that Yorubas emerged from both parties just to pacify them over Abiola. Now, based on justice, fairness and equity, it is the Igbo turn in 2023 but if the Yorubas should sabotage it out of selfishness then nothing stops the north from continuing where Buhari stopped.

SW does not have any right to it more than the north.

Are you talking of the same APC that your ilk labelled as Janja.weed Ewedu and Amala Islamization party?

The same APC that you daily rejoice how the SouthEast has rejected such party?

You suddenly want to be gifted the Presidential ticket of this same party, and term the valid aspirations of the SouthWest members of the party they largely formed as a betrayal of the APC hating SouthEast?

Now I know why your tribe is always wailing. It is a mental disorder that is ingrained in the DNA.