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Christianity Etc › Re: Much Ado About Prayer: We Are All Atheists (3) by tobechi20(m): 6:43am On Sep 16, 2013
Catholic church dont support, orotest,yelling, and crying in prayer.

We pray gently and quietly and end by sayin "let your will be done"

your post is strictly for protesrant
Family › Re: Girl Kills Her 4-day-Old Son For Prostitution In Katsina by tobechi20(m): 11:07pm On Sep 15, 2013
What else do you expect from teenage mariage
Romance › Re: Is It Insulting For A Man To Give A Woman Money In Front Of Her Husband? by tobechi20(m): 10:57pm On Sep 15, 2013
There is absolutely nothing with it
Family › Re: Safety Measures For Women by tobechi20(m): 10:56pm On Sep 15, 2013
Any tips for guys?
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians, What Happened To The 4th Commandment? by tobechi20(m): 2:01pm On Sep 15, 2013
Plaeton is here again;


since christians arent obeying it, atheist can help us obey it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists When Are Yall Going To Step Your Game Up by tobechi20(m): 11:05am On Sep 15, 2013
obadiah777: Not at all sire. i believe you need to be treated for an ailment called 'persecution complex'
and who am i persecuting?
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible: Jesus' Grandfathers Are Gay? by tobechi20(m): 11:01am On Sep 15, 2013
According to op, one person cant bear two names
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists When Are Yall Going To Step Your Game Up by tobechi20(m): 10:53am On Sep 15, 2013
First removing an atheist mod
and impossing extremist"born again" christian "anti atheist" mod

then derailing their thread

hide/ban their post for flimsy minor reason

seun calling their major spokesman a troll.



Are these not means to frustrate atheism on nairaland.
then.
Christianity Etc › Re: Words You Should't Tell An Atheist by tobechi20(op): 7:50am On Sep 15, 2013
Chai......this people don derail this thread finish oooooooo.........make i go open theist version of this thread.....lol
Christianity Etc › Atheists Err When Asking For Material Evidence To Prove God's Existence by tobechi20(op): 10:58pm On Sep 14, 2013
Atheists often ask for evidence to prove that Godexists. They say they want tangible, testable evidence that can be verified via the scientific method.

Unfortunately for them, such a request is the wrong approach. Instead, they should look for evidence consistent with a Transcendent God. Let me show you why.


First of all, the scientific method is a system of learning that consists of observation, hypothesis, experimentation, prediction, and theory. It is based on logic and observations of the material universe and its properties.


Second, the scientific method, along with a materialistic worldview, necessarily excludes transcendence - that which exists independent of the universe. Therefore, it can't detect what is outside of the material realm since it is based on observing things inside the material realm.



Third, the Christian worldview proclaims a transcendentGod who exists outside of, and independent of, the material universe. In other words, the Christian God is not dependent upon the material universe or its properties for his existence.
Therefore, to ask for scienfically testable, material, non-transcendent evidence for an immaterial, transcendent God is the wrong approach because it is a category mistake
Christianity Etc › Six Blind Men In Search Of Elephant - Remix by tobechi20(op): 10:41pm On Sep 14, 2013
story of the blind men and the zoo


Six blind men are in search of an elephant, to discover what it is like. So they visit a zoo and go their separate ways, exploring the animals with which they come into contact.

One man goes up to the first animal that he encounters – a camel giving rides. He decides that it is an elephant. After a thorough investigation, he concludes that elephants are hairy, with two humps on their back, foul breath and long thin legs.

The second blind man passes the elephant, ignoring the Braille sign next to it. Soon afterwards, he encounters an ostrich and concludes that this is an elephant, with feathers, two legs and a rather dangerous beak.


The third and fourth men have equally unfruitful encounters with other animals.

The fifth blind man ends up at the elephant enclosure and, oblivious to everything else around him due to the volume of his iPod, concludes that an elephant is like a castle, with four columns to support the armoured walls and two spears jutting forward either side of a large hollow hosepipe, which must be used for washing away its enemies.


A little later, the final blind man also reaches the elephant enclosure, having consulted the Braille direction signs scattered around the zoo and having asked one of the many friendly zookeepers in order to ensure that he really was in the right place for the elephant. Feeling his way around the elephant, this man mutters to himself, ‘I wonder what an elephant isreally like.’ To his amazement, he hears the reply, ‘If you really want to know, I will show you.’ Immediately, his vision clears and he can see the whole elephant. He engages the elephant in earnest conversation until closing time, finding out just what the elephant thinks about the zoo, the visitors and the surroundings. At the same time, the man carefully takes note of all of the elephant’s characteristics.
On meeting up with his friends on the bus home, the sixth man finds that his friends have different and strange ideas about what an elephant is, but none of them have any idea what an elephant is truly like. The blind man explains to them his own encounter with the elephant – not just what it feels like, but that an encounter with this elephant can literally open their eyes and ears and reveal the inner nature of the elephant. Some believe him and return to the zoo to encounter the elephant for themselves. The others ignore him, continuing to listen to their iPods or dismissing him as crazy.





The moral of the story [5]
Most of the blind men did not encounter an elephant at all – despite the signs and the zoo keepers giving directions. Of those who did, one reached only a limited understanding of the elephant – the pleasures and cares of the world deafening him to the words of the elephant. Only one man truly encountered the elephant, being open to what the elephant wanted to reveal to him.
In mankind’s search for God, people can fumble around on their own, seeking to know what they cannot, by themselves, hope to grasp. Indeed, many look entirely in the wrong place, ignoring the signs that are pointing to the one true God, while others are too busy trying to distract themselves from the realities of life with various pleasures and activities. People’s different interpretations of God are not necessarily aspects of one truth, but descriptions of entirely different things – not an elephant, but a camel or an ostrich
Christianity Etc › what denomination of atheism do you belong by tobechi20(op): 10:22pm On Sep 14, 2013
.The Intellectual Atheist/Agnostic:Sees his/herself as intellectually too advanced for religion and seeks to engage with other likeminded individuals through writings, YouTube videos and talks.


2.The Activist:Proactively works for issues connected to naturalist or humanist causes.


3.The Seeker-Agnostic:Considers the metaphysical a possibility but is comfortable with uncertainty as it concerns the interaction of science and the metaphysical.


4.The Anti-Theist:Believes religion to be evil, thus actively works against religion and religious influences.


5.The Non-Theist:Does not have much interest in religious concepts
Nairaland General › Re: Logicboy Tells Why He Left Nairaland by tobechi20(m): 8:52pm On Sep 14, 2013
Logicboy03: Guy, Seun!!!!

Erm, sir dont ban me but you are a bigger troll. No be you wey put maclatunji as mod of religion section? You trolled a whole section for a week with that appointment


Dont ban me 00000.....I just dey give props to my senior Oga on top of trolling lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
..


You are black.....pot tells kettle
Christianity Etc › Re: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by tobechi20(m): 5:12pm On Sep 14, 2013
Seun: what rules have been broken by the thread?
nothing.
Nairaland General › Re: Logicboy Tells Why He Left Nairaland by tobechi20(m): 5:03pm On Sep 14, 2013
Abu Mikey: **Now watching from the sidelines**


Welcome BaDoosKy cheesy





Me and Ishi go still go fight our own fight oo grin
hope sey no be dat kind bed room fight wey dey give person nine month assignmenthuhif obadiah catch you?
Christianity Etc › Re: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by tobechi20(m): 4:52pm On Sep 14, 2013
[quote author=uj_sizzle]Mods is there a reason this thread is still here when it's obviously a time bombhuh

https://www.nairaland.com/1438996/logicboy-tells-why-he-left#18115709[/quote]should it be hidden?

Seun was viewing minutes ago
Nairaland General › Re: Logicboy Tells Why He Left Nairaland by tobechi20(m): 4:36pm On Sep 14, 2013
Logicboy, you are inconsistent in your decision


one minute u are out, next minute u come back. Make up your mind.


Its only a little plant that fully dances to the direction of the wind. An adult tree is unaffected
Nairaland General › Re: Logicboy Tells Why He Left Nairaland by tobechi20(m): 4:33pm On Sep 14, 2013
Ishilove: I choose to be mature when the occasion calls for it. This is not one of those times. Logicboy matter no be mata. Shikena
someone accused you off derailing the thread. You ignored. He persiseted , you continued with mod backing. He got mad and left.


This is not serious you think. But mods hide other people comment for derailing.
If you dont want to explain your role, then remain silent.

You were not like this when manmustwac was mod. You were mostly in romantic section
Nairaland General › Re: Logicboy Tells Why He Left Nairaland by tobechi20(m): 4:25pm On Sep 14, 2013
Viewing this topic: honey(m), plaetton, aManFromMars, Toe_cynne(m), blinksluv, Idowuogbo(f), Dux-01, Ishilove(f), idnoble135, Lucifer, Seun(m), Pygru, chyima(f), Dr.Gboy(m), quivah(f), Caracta(f) and 1 guest(s)


this thread is drawing trafic. Seun himself is here. Lets see
Nairaland General › Re: Logicboy Tells Why He Left Nairaland by tobechi20(m): 4:16pm On Sep 14, 2013
What is this ishilov girl feeling like?
She threatens to get op banned as if she is certain the mod will quikly grant her request


may be her relationship with obadiah is getting into her head and out of hands?
Nairaland General › Re: Logicboy Tells Why He Left Nairaland by tobechi20(m): 4:11pm On Sep 14, 2013
Ishilove: Hi tobechi sweerie, how are you? smiley

Please, kindly take a chair and join those folks sitting waaaaay over there waiting for me to give a rat's asss about what they think about me.

Yeah, step...and don't let the door hit you in the butt.

Thanks for joining wink
just to imagine you are a lady. I just cant imagine myself exchange words with one. Just as much as this is a faceless forum, courtesy demands you should learn to approach issues well.

Logicboy has been childish atimes but you havent prooven to be matured either.
Nairaland General › Re: Logicboy Tells Why He Left Nairaland by tobechi20(m): 4:00pm On Sep 14, 2013
Caracta: Suppress atheism? When Seun himself is an atheist? Now that's funny! cheesy
for buisness sake, anything is possible. Loggicboy has been viewed as a "nuisance" .many have been keeping off this section coss of his forceful evangelical atheism.
Christianity Etc › Re: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by tobechi20(m): 3:45pm On Sep 14, 2013
obadiah777: your mother is not the catholic church. you are not a roman. you are a black man.
catholics worldwide have "adopted" mary as their mother. It mustn't be biological mother.thank you
Nairaland General › Re: Logicboy Tells Why He Left Nairaland by tobechi20(m): 3:30pm On Sep 14, 2013
This was seuns idea in the first place.
To get three christian mods to suppress atheism for buisness sake
Nairaland General › Re: Logicboy Tells Why He Left Nairaland by tobechi20(m): 3:19pm On Sep 14, 2013
fr3do: Sorry
but his absence is not felt
i miss him .his absence is felt.

Your presence or absence isnt noticed
Literature › Re: Dance of the gods!!! by tobechi20(m): 3:02pm On Sep 14, 2013
I never knew you were this talented.

Argue like keyamo
write like ola rotimi

you are gifted
Christianity Etc › Re: Chelsea Jersey Is A Free Ticket To Hell by tobechi20(m): 11:40am On Sep 14, 2013
No matter what you say




chelsea 4 life
Christianity Etc › Re: Recommend Threads For Frontpage by tobechi20(m): 11:29am On Sep 14, 2013
Christianity Etc › Re: Recommend Threads For Frontpage by tobechi20(m): 11:28am On Sep 14, 2013
Christianity Etc › Re: Words You Should't Tell An Atheist by tobechi20(op): 11:15pm On Sep 13, 2013
Announce That You'll Be Praying for them


One of the most condescending things a theist can do to an atheist is to make a point of announcing that they'll be praying for them. Atheists don't believe in the power of prayer, but even theists can't think that prayer will be more effective for having announced. So what's the purpose? Some say that it's to express well-wishes, but people say that they'll pray for someone when the person is sick or having trouble. One way or another, the theist appears to be expressing superiority over atheists in a passive-aggressive manner. That suggests they weren't interested in serious conversation to begin with
Christianity Etc › Re: Words You Should't Tell An Atheist by tobechi20(op): 11:05pm On Sep 13, 2013
Try to "Prove" Something By Quoting the holy books


theist regard their holy books significant in their lives, but for most atheists it is little more than literature at best — ancient literature mixed with a bit of mythologized history. For atheists, quoting passages from the Bible proves nothing about any gods whatsoever. At most, it may prove that the person doing the quoting doesn't have anything better to offer. That the Christian doing the quoting considers this the best possible sort of evidence to offer reinforces the tragedy of this miscommunication. Avoid this by remembering that you can't prove anything to atheists by simply quoting the Bible.

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