₦airaland Forum

chukwudi44:
The onus is on you to prove that the word cousin has previously existed.

here we go again.

Look- Jesus had brothers from his father and mother.

Deal with it.

1honeybee:
@ asha and tpiah

I think the ability of a child whose parents are Yoruba, living in Owerri and been communicated to at home in English depend on the child. I know two families A and B, both are Igbo. Family A lives in Warri and speak English to their children, children went FGC around the same area they live but the children only understand a little bit of their Igbo language and can't speak it.
Family B on the other hand live in Abia, communicate with their children in English, children went to FGC in Akwa-ibom and they can speak their Igbo language fluently.
I asked a child from family B how she learnt her language, she said she learnt from friends and they go to their village as well so she was able to learn from the grandmother.
Child from family A on the other hand said she believed English was all she had to understand and therefore didn't have interest in other languages until now.

I'd save my saliva if I were you. No point arguing with the local village champion aka asha 80.



Her agitated post below sums up her philosophy in life:

asha 80:
Where is NINETOFIVE when you need him.

the only suitable response for some people is duuh.

asha 80:
I am on another level of argument here with tpia.Let me ask you this.If a yoruba person only hears english at home but grew up in calabar how will he learn yoruba if he remains in calabar.Nobody is talking about literacy here.

did his parents drop from Pluto or dont they have Yoruba speaking relations?

Which Yoruba extended family has only English speaking people and no other? 0 percent. Living in Calabar and having English as your first language is no barrier to learning Yoruba if your parents are so inclined.

I didnt say I'm not getting your point about the child speaking whatever language they're taught at home, but that's not the only way to learn a language.

asha 80:
Typical market woman remark.Kids interact with people outside their home in kaduna or non yoruba land and they will learn yoruba by speaking to hausa lads or non yoruba kids?If it is true why did kunle and remi i grew up with in owerri not know how to spaek yoruba?simple ,their parents who were only speaking english to them at home.Look at your thinking.I repeat those people were spoken to in yoruba in their homes.

I understand its your time of month therefore you must fight everywhere because of Love Machine shortage.

You're mentioning Kunle and remi. Two names.

I on the other hand, am not speaking of only two people. I draw my statistics from a wider range.

if kunle and remi's Yoruba speaking grandparents had lived with them in owerri, or if they mixed with a wider Yoruba community in Owerri on a regular basis, they would speak Yoruba.

Even my grandpa once visited a Nigerian town where the people didnt know he understood what they were saying. How did he pick up that language? From interacting with people from there in another area.

eldee:
It will affect your Yoruba definitely
But you don't exactly get labelled an illeterate during the process of picking up Yoruba as a second language, do you??

not always.

Go to Lagos- you'll find many people who have English or something else as a first language yet who speak Yoruba very well. It depends on how much exposure you had with people around you as you were growing up.

If someone spoke English at home and cant speak proper Yoruba even though they grew up in a Yoruba town, then all that shows is they didnt have much social interaction with other Yorubas outside the home.

same applies to other languages.

Fhemmmy:
How come chinese grads cant even speak an iota of english ?

A Chinese graduate who cant speak English will have problems getting a good job in a western English speaking country. Of course they can work as laborers, cooks in Chinese restaurants or gas station attendants. But if you want to get a good job and you dont speak English, then you're supposed to go to language school and learn it.

In the universities too, foreign students from non-English speaking countries are required to take an Englsih course (same as everybody else). But how can you give a presentation in Chinese, for example, if nobody else speaks the language? Does that make sense if you're not in China?

Same applies to anyone travelling to an ex-colonial country.

asha 80:
Those yorubas were spoken to in yoruba in their various homes by their parents and not english.Remember you said that if you speak english to them at home it will not affect them understanding yoruba when it is spoken to them which is a lie.

I'm telling you basic facts here. Speaking English at home wont prevent a child from learning other languages including your local ones.


I spoke of people I know personally and you're still arguing?

People speak english or another language to their kids at home. The kids interact with other people outside the home and pick up the local language where they are. If there's a grandparent living with them, they learn their grandparents language if its different from what they speak.

The people living in kaduna who are experts in three languages- what's your explanation for that?

abeg waka pass if you have nothing solid to say.

asha 80:
Try living is kaduna and speak english to your kids at home and see whether they will know what the hell you are saying in yoruba.Those ones that have not been to their homeland but understand what you say their parents speak their local lingo at home.

I dont get your point but most Yorubas I know who were born and raised in Kaduna speak at least three languages- English, Yoruba and Hausa. And they speak excellently well.

I knew people like that back in Nigeria.

at some point even the most vocal prostitute supporter like Tudor, must ask himself why prostitution is so common to Nigerians?

Do you see something wrong anywhere? Our value systems perhaps? The demand vs the supply?

I guess you feel you dont really stand a chance with her.

Doesnt mean you cant give it a shot however. Its up to you. _{but have a thick skin just in case.}

itumama:
Its not the graduate's fault.Its the educational system we practice in nigeria.


[size=14pt]And sometimes the fault comes from the parent who dont care to speak english to their wards when they are stil young wen their brain can pick up tins very fast.[/size]

good point @ bolded.

I dont know why people keep discouraging others from speaking English to their kids as if children cant learn more than one language.

In Nigeria, speaking English at home wont prevent you from learning your local language. I have relatives who are polyglots- they speak at least two or three languages- their own and other Nigerian ones. Some of them havent been to their hometown more than five times but there's little you say to them in their own language that they dont hear.

even the Indians peope are talking about- the ones doing outsourcing jobs for US companies are supposedly being trained to speak American lingo.

where did you get these pictures?

Louisaf:
Hi thanks for that! I will do some more searching!

My father was told he was Nigerian but maybe that could have been wrong?!

Can you find any documents with the correct spelling of his name?


Or is there a way you can check the school records to see if he's listed there.

95% of the people calling themselves Hausa on NL arent hausa.

WildOne:
Some of the arguments/points raised by the "aye - sayers" are laughable at best.

From tpiah: He went ahead with creation, because he understood that u would feel bad, if He just dumped u (an uncreated spirit being) into hell fire by default.
So He chose to create u, educate u about the choices u have, give u the liberty to make that choice and subsequently punish or reward u for that choice.

Yet another from the same tpiah: yes He does. Jesus predicted the fall of Jerusalem.

However, humans not knowing the future doesnt mean God is the same way.

We can ask why but all that means is our knowledge is limited.

hope no problem?

Louisaf:
Sorry to sound so ignorant but I am trying to work out how to spell/pronounce my grandfathers name - and am hoping you guys can help me!!

I am trying to find my grandfather who I know originated from Nigeria and travelled to London to study Law in the 1940s as part of a Governmental sponsorship. I know my father (his child) was born in 1948 and my grandfather later returned to Nigeria.

This is the only information I have and am trying to find out all I can - the problem is the name we have is Theodore Adjianku, but as you may guess I am not so sure on the spelling of his surname, could it be Adeyanku?? Or Adijaku??

If anyone has any ideas that would be very helpful.

Thanks

Try to find out more about his name.

It sounds like Ajanaku to me but it could be a lot of other possibilities.

Do you know his state of origin?

However, it could also be a Ghanaian name if the first three letters Adj are correct.

Adjei, for example, is Ghanaian.

[quote author=udeycraze? link=topic=280582.msg4078745#msg4078745 date=1245820179]Its possible for sluts to forget but sane human beings probably wont [/quote]I agree with your user name.

u don craze.

Feelitx:
I don't fail to remember. You really dont forget. That woman will always be special. I have always felt a special kind of gratefulness for a woman who chooses to share that with me. It's not every day you buy virginity off the shelves.

some men have disvirgined more than one woman however.

Many Nigerians dont seem to know the basics of organization, I'm sorry to say. The only type of negotiation they consider, are anti-govt protests and strikes.

Meanwhile, when they go to western countries where things are orderly and run like clockwork, they feel more at ease and are grateful for being able to accomplish what they couldnt do at home. However, they refuse to look at the difference between their attitudes and the western work ethic. Instead, they take solace in heaping all the blame on govt because its always easier to have a scapegoat.

While its true some Nigerian leaders major in the minors like loose living, personal enrichment at the expense of their constituents, they're mainly the reflection of the general Naija ethic. Which worships money regardless of the source, and beleive the Nigerian dream is having as many women as possible at your beck and call.

Closeminded ethnocentrism nko? Another topic on its own.

Horus:
Since when a "god" (?) need an accord from a mortal?. If this "God" created the universe simply for the Earth he wasted a lot of material on the project. There are an estimate 100 billion solar systems in our galaxy and over 1 million galaxies in the universe. That's a lot of material just to maintain one, healthy planet. Even if this "God" is all-powerful, he is either a very poor planner or we have seriously misidentified our significance to him.

whatever rocks your boat.

another dumbo has landed.

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=287825.msg4077735#msg4077735 date=1245792808]@tpiah
Really nice attempt to side-step and dismiss Horus' post. ''he wanted them to respond of their own accord" indeed. If god already knew their whereabouts or what they've done then why ask the bloody question?

There're several instances god repented or regretted his actions like he 'repented' that he made saul king and he also 'repented' that he made man.
Surely a god with big eyes into the future shouldn't have cause to regret or repent. . . .right?[/quote]wrong.

Say you're working towards a monetary goal. Nobody is cooperating and you get frustrated.

Does that mean you wont get paid or achieve that goal at the end of the day if you persevere.

New Living Translation:

We all fell down, and I heard a voice saying to me in Aramaic,[a] ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me? It is useless for you to fight against my will


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2026:14%20%20;&version=51;

you can check different translations in the drop down menu at the top then click update.

WildOne:
Sometimes, I just wonder if God really knows the end from the beginning. If He does, why does He go embark on projects/experiments doomed to fail?

For instance, if He knew mankind would turn out like this, why did He go ahead with creation?

No name calling pls. Only enlightened responses.

yes He does. Jesus predicted the fall of Jerusalem.

However, humans not knowing the future doesnt mean God is the same way.

We can ask why but all that means is our knowledge is limited.

Horus:
The first challenge to such a question comes in the beginning of the Bible when God was uncertain where Adam was when Adam hid himself in the Garden of Eden. Surely a God that could create the universe and transcend time would be able to locate a hiding man. God only learns what has happened when he interrogates Eve. Then he acts. God also cannot determine where Abel happens to be after he has been slain by his brother. Again, he must gain his answers from Cain. God has to "look down" and see what is occurring in Shinar and he has to personally view the wickedness of man before destroying the cities of the plain. Why this "god" must gain his answers from mortal human that he created?. Was this God actually a God?

you're too literal. Are you an atheist.

Take the Adam and Eve story for example.

Here's the description in Genesis:

Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden. But the LORD God called to the man, "Where are you?"

they were hiding- that's why God called to them. It doesnt mean he couldnt locate them- He wanted them to respond of their own accord and it also underscores their heightened awareness that something was wrong. In other words, there was palpable fear and tension.



Same explanation for the rest of your post.

An even cursory reading of Milton's Paradise Lost will show similar imagery.