₦airaland Forum

Obasanjo can only be certain of what he presented and not what others did. Did he not see the letter from Buhari's principal that says that HE WILL PASS HIS WASC? Has Buhari denied this letter?

What we are interested in is what he filled and presented to INEC and Nigerian people as his qualification to contest the election and not some military trainings which he might even have attended on quota basis.

ISpiksDaTroof:
Thats what "Governmental/Official" corruption means.

If you as a private citizen steal money from your company, you have not committed corruption. At the very least you committed theft, and at the very worst, embezzlement.

If you were Mayor of your city, or even a lowly county(Local Govt) clerk, and you accepted a bribe before carrying out your official duty you have participated in an act that could be classified as "Corruption".

The Professor is right, GEJ is wrong. And you are wrong.

The problem here is you guys don't even know the meaning of the word.

I dont get this ur explanation. Corruption is corruption and stealing is stealing there is nothing like governmental or non governmental corruption or stealing. Adultary and fornication are different even though they are both sins. Corruption and stealing are different legally and in theory though both are criminal acts. Check the nearest dictionary so u stop mixing things up.

So is it only those in power that are dishonest and fraudulent ? I thought this man is a professor of law? mtchewww

kasheemawo:
Mr Jonathan said it that stealing is not corruption and bastard okupe and rubber abati defended the statement.

Check your dictionary and stop advertising your ignorance. Is adultary same as funication?

nairaman66:
Which apparently you are among! How many years did he take to clarify this nonsense statement? Apologies for the language.

You that is educated, have you ever taken a minuite to check your dictionary to know their meanings and difference?

You were too blind to read where sahara distorters swallowed their lies I suppose?

First class alarmist.

GEJ used his body language to tell him that he wants 2 years extension. The kind of clawn Tinubu sent to Abuja as a senator.

Akshow:
U guys won't stop amazing me with ur dumb post in defence of the clueless one.

u list all this rawbish as if Jonathan has done us a favour when in actual fact he is doing what he is suppose to do and underperforming given the inflated budgets and depleted crude oil reserves.

So in six years of exorbitant budgets these are what u can point to as an achievement? U need a hot slap. When last have u had five hrs straight light? And u are telling us he has improve power sector. the megawatts produced is reducing and u are blind to that? how is ur borehole and wells doing, cos im sure u dont have pipe borne water. Do u trust the security of ur life and property in this govt? If one of the chiboks gals was ur sister will u still praise Jonathan? If one of the immigration scam causality was a family will u still sing his praise? Do u have a job? if yes, don't u have families and friends wandering with certificate for years? have u been paid d eighteen k minimum wage? is abuja lokoja road, the most pliable road in Nigeria now double Lane? Has d second Niger bridge promised ur people been delivered? He reform agriculture, but why is food items getting expensive by the day? I could go on and on but I'm sure it won't make any difference to u.

Try not to be abusive when you want someone to take you seriously OK? Sometimes what you post shows your level of education and upbringing and with what you have here a reseonable person can easily see why no employer will employ you yet you blame the president. You obviously don't sound like someone I should waste my time responding to.

dustmalik:
The problem is that, in this country, we hate the truth. We have always known Sahara Reporters to be the best investigative journalism outfit in Nigeria. But, all of a sudden, they are now lying, simply because they have been reveling the truth about PDP. We prefer to live in denial than to accept the truth as it is. That is to say, knowing the truth, but refusing to accept it because it doesn't soothe us.

What tuth are you talking about? They stay in their bedrooms and create fair tales and you call that the truth? Just last week they carried their usual imaginary tale by saying that Coscharis gave an expensive car gift to Pastor Tunde Bakare, trying to insinuate that GEJ was trying to bribe him using coscharis. If he did not come out to forcefully deny it and sahara distorter were forced to issue a retraction to you that would have been the truth abi? Not everyone has time to join issues with people that deliberately peddle lies and falsehood bro.

People just allow sentiments to becloud their judgement. Someone directly benefitted from one laudable programme of this administration yet he says the president DID NOT DO ANYTHING. He built almajiri schools for them which is even supposed to be the responsibilty of the state governments yet he DID NOT DO ANYTHING. He refurbished and even built new rail lines to ease transportation and improve the economy yet he DID NOT DO ANYTHING. He built turbines and hydro power stations they still say HE DID NOT DO ANYTHING. He gave scholarships to smart and indigent stutents purely on merit they still shout very loud he DID NOT DO ANYTHING. He refurbished most federal roads and constructed new ones to also ease transportations and HE DID NOT DO ANYTHING. He drastically reformed agriculture and made it easier for farmers to improve their lot they still say he DID NOT DO ANYTHING. He reformed the power sector the way no past administration has done to the extent that there is hope for regular power suply in no distant time and the accusation is HE DID NOT DO ANYTHING. He did so many things which time will not permit me to mention here and they remain blinded by sentiments and ignorance to say HE DID NOT DO ANYTHING. I guess to them when he will do something is the day he starts wearing babariga and agbada with gworro in his mouth all the time. May God help us appreciate little things so that we can attract the bigger ones o.

arsetalks:
My heart bleeds for this country. The most annoying part of this all is that some section of the country who can not think objectively will still continue to support GEJ due to regional sentimentality.

This man is gradually pushing us to another civil warm.

It is people like you who read pepper soup joint stories like this and believe that should make effort to be objective in your analysis by taking advantage of more reliable, objective and responsible news outlets at your finger tips and not sahara distorters.

Emmtech:
Do u even understanding the meaning of the word "propaganda"? It shows u are brainless.
The responsibility of a good president is to guarantee the security of lives and properties of his counntry men, but he has failed in this respect.
It tooK GEJ 10 months to visit Borno because of election campaign, but not for the Chibok girls. Is that an example of a good father or president? Obama, Mandela, and other western leader who value the lives of their citizens would react responsibly.
If ur daughter or sister was among the Chibok girls, I bet u wouldn't vote for GEJ. Give urself brain.

Bro it is also the responsibility of every citizen, governor, constituency of any country to support and coporate with the president to be able to guarantee the security of lives and properties but GEJ did not get that from the northern leadership and people because they believe the presidency belongs to them. Google and you will see that in Chicago city alone, over 40 persons get killed every month from gang related violence and Americans dont blame or insult Obama.

Obama and other world leaders can only visit anywhere if the security report about their safety is positive and GEJ is no exception. No responsible persons will arrange to have their daughters taken away to score cheap political points. I'm sure you've heard about 10 and 12 year old girls confessing that their fathers donated them to Boko Haram to carry bomb and kill people, you still blame GEJ for that? Try not to be sentimental about this if truly you want this country to move foward.

He is simply saying 'vote for my pals Tinubu and Amaechi' because using the Chibok girls abduction to judge the performance of this government does't make sense when you fail to condemn Boko Haram, the northern elders that did little or nothing to stop it with the hope of gaining politically if indeed it happened, the sabotours within and outside the military.

doctokwus:
Wike's wife must have been one of the wives visited by Amaechi.
It therefore means Wike has a loose woman for a wife and he is unashamedly living with a woman who has publicly committed and maybe still committing adultery.
The disgrace is therefore on Wine for living with a an adulterous woman despite knowing it!

You are wrong bro. Wike's wife chased him away with a BROOM and then reported to her husband and that shows a Virtuous woman. But alas! Amaechi did not stop there. He now bought SO MANY BROOMS and started going to one APC leaders house pretending he was going to donate them but he goes when the man is not at home. [quote author=doctokwus post=30456894]

akinsadeez:
what on earth are you talking about Someone is accused of squandering billions of naira and his reply is that his accuser visits other people's wife. That you are even trying to rationalize it is mind boggling. Amaechi has constitutional freedom of movement and association to anywhere he pleases. So what is strange in visiting people? Does visiting automatically translate to sleeping with them? How does his visit concern the state he is governing.
If wike has sensible counter-allegations against Amaechi he should by all means air them but using beer parlor gossip as a reply to such serious allegations just shows his low IQ

Na wa for you o Akin. Abeg show me where it says Wike SQUANDERED BILLIONS OF NIARA? These days in nigeria billions and trillions now sound like akara money.

That he gave chibok girls as his reason is not enough for me not to vote Jonathan because it is wrong to judge his performance using that as a yardstick especially if no blame goes to Boko Haram, the northern elders that did little or nothing to stop it with the hope of making political gain and those still collaborating with them within and outside the military.

TrishaP:
Senseless statement.

Senseless to you right? To some of us that believe that good leadership must go with sound morals, it is not.

Nothing is senseless while scrutinising who you want to lead you. Just last week the U.S media was awash with how Jeb Bush used to smoke pot and bully his classmates while in high school. It is simply because he has indicated though not formerly, his interest to contest for the presidency in 2016.

akinsadeez:
And this is a supposedly educated man o....a former minister and aspiring governor at that. He says someone accused him of wastage and the only sensible thing that he can use as a reply is that Amaechi visits other people's wives with his money. Let's even assume that the allegation is true, how does it correlate with Wike's wanton wastage and corruption. He has been accused of serious mismanagement of funds and the only thing he can use to reply is this beer parlour gossip. I swear this Wike guy is as dumb as Fayose. It seems PDP just have a lot of clueless and dumb politicians just like Oga Jona.

Is it an investment to visit people's wife with your money anytime they are not around? That he did not directly call it a wastage doesn't mean it isn't and in this case you are not only wasting your money but also, time, energy expended during action and 'moral resourcrs'

Many of them are also waiting for abroad husband.

eyeview:
Amechi wasn't like this before. He used to be a gentleman but after a while he just lost it. He's been running downwards like a man who has lost all sense of decorum. I just hope its not the effect of all this diabolic things they dabble into while in power

Amaechi has always been a loquacious buffon full of himself. He pretended for a while after he became governor because of the circumstances that brought him into office but a leopard will never change its spots no matter how much rain beats it.

ChokolateBoss:
Dodging the argument. Yes I actually read d post. The father-teacher reference is just one of ur ad hominem attacks. That being said, can u counter any of d facts/figures elucidated by d Prof?

" I insist that over N30 trillion has either been
stolen or unaccounted for, or grossly mismanaged over
the last few years" Soludo.


If Soludo is basing his argument on facts as you claim, why can't he be more specific as to what happened to the money? You think the Nigerian economy will not collapse with this amount of money stolen in the last four years? Unless it includes the money stolen under Obasanjo and Yar'ardua's government of which he was part of but it still doesn't make sense if he can not be more specific.

Jesusloveyou:
don't be confuse,d minimum requirement is in d constitution,1.if u have work at least 10yrs in public service,2.wasc or his equivalents(bsc,msc etc)don't worry d case is adjorn till june.

You seem the confused one here . Listen apart from age, Salisu Buhari was qualified to contest for that election because he attended Kings College where he got his school cert but then he claimed what he didnt have which was a degree from the University of Toronto.

Muhammadu Buhari is only being questioned based on what he claimed as his qualification to contest for the election. We all know what the constitution says. He should have claimed that the qualification he has is his over 10 years of public service no problem with that but in his form he wrote that he has WASC which is with the Nigerian army And if it is found that he never even had the WASC at all it then means all along he was an imposter in the army and was never commissioned . What the court will do is to strip him of his rank andhe will appropriately become Mr, Mallam, Sheik, Alhaji or Mullah Muhhamadu Buhari but certainly not Major General.

leofab:
yes in kirikiri; pounding your a**s

Badt gur!!

leofab:
yes in kirikiri; pounding your a**s

Badt gal!!

berem:
interesting! I wish the best. Rivers State must retain APC

Hehehe keep dreaming you've always lived in Alice's neighbourhood..........wonderland.

jobakademy:
if so, better for apc to replace him now

It is too late to replace him the deadline has passed. They can only wait till 2019 to present a qualified candidate without any blemish.

dre11:
This is what we did expect them to do and not going round the web and news stream shouting the certificate issue.










This case to me is dead on arrival
Because when I think of Salisu Buhari case, I known this is just chids play..... Because the university Salisu claimed to have gone deny his claim even before he was asked for his certificate, since Cambridge didn't deny that Buhari did not partake in the exams...... Am confident that this is just a wild goose chase

You are wrong bro. The main fact that earned Salisu Buhari a conviction was because he lied in an affidavit claiming a false age. His fake certificate was an additional crime.

Muhammadu Buhari lied in an affidavit that his WASC certificate was with the army even when he knew he never submitted one but a recommendation letter from his principal stating that HE WILL PASS HIS WASC when he was joining the army.

ChokolateBoss:
A classical case of "argumentum ad hominem" fallacy that is typical among nairalanders. Spare us the balderdash and counter the hard facts elucidated by the Prof. We don't need history about whose father or ancestor taught him in school. Just counter the facts in a logical civilized manner. Take cues from the Prof. Thank u.

If you actually read the post I commented on, you will understand why I mentioned her father teaching Soludo.

orinocopulse:
Well, I can't fault your analysis. It appears you know much more about Rivers politics than me.

Politics wise (maybe even rough politics), Wike trounces Ajumogobia. But for the greater good of Rivers, for putting competent people with integrity, I'm sure you admit Ajumogobia is better. And I think that should have been more important to the PDP. I'm non-partisan. I just look out for where the good and competent folks are. Right now, I would rathe have Dakuku and the OP's article more than does justice on why. If PDP chose Ajumogobia I would have voted for him. I know his antecedents.

Oh well, may Rivers folks choose wisely and I hope it's a peaceful election as Rivers may be proving to be a flash point. Cheers

Well parties consider so many factors in chosing a candidate but most importantly is a candidate that can deliver or win for them. APC would not pick Buhari for president if its based on competence and integrity alone but because many northerners will vote for him simply because he is from the north.

Like I said Ajumogobia is a likeable personality and also intelligent but personally I like seeing ones performance before judging. The reason is that Peter Odili, is arguably the most brilliant and intelligent governor that state has produced so far but he is also the worst in terms of performance. It was even Odili that brought Ajumogobia to prominence when he brought him from Lagos to be his Attorney General and later moved him to Abuja as minister.

tit:
he is qualified to run.
You can only get him for "lying under oath".

He submitted an incomplete form to INEC and that is enough to disqualify him.

Like Salisu Buhari, Mohammadu Buhari pejured himself by lying under oath and that is enough to convict and send him to jail.

orinocopulse:
I can't fault this article. What is still find hard to understand is how the powers that be made WIKE win the governorship primaries over ODEIN AJUMOGOBIA (A perfect gentleman, technocrat and all-round smart, nice guy!) how?

Ajumogobia would have been better but then can he lead the fight? A lot of people dont like the idea of Wike but imagine the position PDP would have been in the state if Wike was a 'gentle and quiet' technocrat apart from the fact that there is a language Amaechi understands which is gragra and intimidation and Wike seem the one at the moment ready and able to get into the gutter with him.

The upland (Ndoni 8 years, Ikwerre 8 years) have ruled the state for 16 years now but my understanding is that Jonathan needed a strong personality from Ikwerre/upland that will rally support for him and make it difficult for Amaechi to turn the politics into upland versus riverine fight and then creating a greater possibility ofJonathan loosing the state which will be very disastrous. The riverine Ijaw will always support him as per Ijaw but Amaechi can easily turn the other non Ijaw tribes to the opposition so they need some incentives and I think thats part of the reason for recent ministerial appointment for Keneth Kobani, an Ogoni man from a promient family to also neutralise the influence of Magnus Abe in that axis.

Obinoscopy:
I sincerely hope freedom of the press and the social media will not be removed if Buhari wins.

It is good you are hoping but sometimes we just have to accept reality even if reluctantly.