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It is not faith but foolishness to lose your life when you have every opportunity to keep it. Even a fool would do everything to stay alive..

What would make any normal person to want to end their life on the basis of faith in order to please a god?

The answer is uncommon brainwashing.

Anyone who has been pushed with indoctrination into that arena of faith where common sense is completely forgotten and later manage to come out of it, is in a better position to know.

I have been in that state before and came out .So I have the experience .

There was a period in my life when I contemplated joining the jw group but after I had done a deeper investigation of the group, what I found shocked me greatly and put me off . I ran as fast as my legs could carry me

The organization , JW, I found out, was using an insidious form of mind control tactics on its members to make them submit their minds completely so they, the members, can accept without questioning anything they are being taught and obey whatever instructions dished out to them even if it involves the individual dying for the organization . The tactics they use, is one of the most cruelest in the books of those who try to employ mind control techniques on unsuspecting victims. The members are not aware of what is being done to them from behind the curtains.

How am I sure of this?

It was the same methods employed by another religious group I was part of in the past and managed to escape from.

That group almost took complete control of my mind .But some series of earth shaking personal experiences during that period , gradually woke me up and I started to realise what was going on. .Then, I decided that if I want to live a normal life again, I need to fight back to take back my life that was almost no longer under my control.

Leaving that group was not enough. It took me a period of about 10 years of intermittent counselling to finally integrate myself into normal society.. I struggled to cope outside of the group influence.

People under that kind of control are not even aware of the kind of damage their mind is gradually being subjected to. You are being turned into a zombie; someone who acts without thinking and obeys only the group instructions and no other.

So ,@op, the decision of your friend to refuse blood transfusion was not hers but that of those who have completely taken control of her mind. She was a victim of something evil and not Faith.

budaatum:
Triplechoice, please inform this individual that he must not approach me behind your back.

I have made him no offer so he must make no requests of me!

Thanks. And sorry for troubling kind you.

Sent you a mail now

budaatum:
You should know how to contact buda.
It's stated on buda's profile.

Seen

Crystyano:
The person said it's a wrong number

Just called her now. She says nobody has called her from lagos.

Check the number you called again to be sure you dialed the correct thing. I have sent it to your phone again

Crystyano:
He said he might come to see me tomorrow

I will send an email confirming his name and phone number later today

You can reply with your phone number so that I will call you when he's around

Thanks for understanding

Your phone has been switched off and the person in charge has been expecting your call .

You need to let the person know that you're interested before any other thing. .she will inform you of everything you need to know concerning the job and answer any questions you may have.

You should be aware that you're not the only one applying for the few positions available.

In other words, to eradicate criminality in Nigeria, the government should pay every criminal monthly salary. Gumi

Religion really has nothing to do with why some countries are more corrupt than others. It may appear so to you, but it is not what it seems.

Poverty and the level of literacy is to be blamed. If religion is banned in Nigeria , it wouldn't result in less corruption or make people start to reason rationally

As long as poverty still remains and there is no access to good quality education, people will do anything to survive or behave the way they like. It is like a war situation where people will do anything to eat anything and drink anything to stay alive.

If poverty becomes endemic in those countries you mentioned, corruption will start to reign over there.

Eradicating religion is not the solution. I can't find anywhere in the Koran or Bible where adherents are advised to embrace corruption or behave irresponsibly.

It all boils down to the people practicing those religion.

Crystyano:
Notice that I said I have to see my dad today or tomorrow because he lives far away from me

His address can't be determined

So,he has to come and see me towards the journey

I will try to reach out to him with my phone later today

Connect me with your dad when you meet with him. I would like to speak with him

budaatum:
Crystano, considering for once you have managed to have a civil conversation with buda, buda is very tempted to sponsor your journey, but I honestly am not prepared to forget our history so sorry, but I can not sponsor you.

However, I have committed to assist triple as I've stated here. That way I can lie to myself that I am not helping you, because, truth be told, you do not deserve the assistance of buda. What you have sown does not deserve it.

Triplechoice. Please know that I am doubling my previous amount.

Thanks for your concern. I already replied crystano. Everything now depends on him to do his part.

budaatum:
I've budgeted 5k. I personally can't help that cretin but I'd love to help you help him please.

My contact is on my profile.

If he comes to take the job, will let you know

budaatum:
If he comes, please let me know so I can send you some money to fund him.

Ok

Crystyano:
I have tried to send an email to you

No response yet

Can you drop your email address here ?

Replied

Crystyano:
Okay

It is something you can do and still have time to do other things

Crystyano:
I will send my details through Gmail.

If you're in Asaba,

I will need you to state WHERE YOU ARE IN ASABA.

Honestly,

I don't know the road towards Asaba.

I can't remember anytime when I travelled outside Lagos


I will see if I can get someone to help me with the direction and what the journey involves


I will need you state the job description so that anyone I ask for the direction to Asaba won't think I'm joking or wasting his or her time


Another issue is that I don't have a personal bank account

When you send the details, I will forward it to the person in charge.

I already let her know someone might come from Lagos.

She would discuss with you and let you know what to do and the kind of job. You're not paying anything to get the job.

Crystyano:
Pretend that I need your help or what exactly?

If you're sure you really need help, then send your details and find your way to asaba now till Thursday. I have a job for you at NHIS.

There's free accommodation too

A friend of mine has the contract to bring in new workers . If you come ,I will stand as your guarantor

budaatum:
You give him too much credit. The only person he is attempting to deceive is himself, and he obviously fails woefully at even that.

He says there is no karma, then sits on his lazy ass wailing about hunger while begging for food on Nairaland.

Just ignore him and let him continue to pretend .

Crystyano:
Then your English is not updated


You don't know the meaning of an accusation

I never accused you wrongly. I said I was a victim of the things you do and still doing and that is not a lie. I fell for it out of sympathy

Your reply to buda has just confirmed it all. One of the monikers you copied has a reputation on this forum most people are aware of.

So it is show me your friends and .........

Goodluck

Crystyano:
Do your worst

Accusing me of deception is not good enough

I am not accusing you. It is what you do and was your victim. Others need to be warned

Crystyano:
Chance doesn't have to be good enough in this case

I don't have to be someone that has done anything to people that don't know how to assess situations such as mine

Your life . Not my business. But stop deceiving others. It won't work again. This thread you opened is your nemesis.

budaatum:
Please do not blame yourself. Know that even while responding to him, others read and learn too. I have benefitted from your posts, and I can assure you that many others will read and benefit too.

The blame is not now . It was when I realised the game he was playing and I immediately put a stop to it.

Anyway thanks for your compliments and concern.

budaatum:
I must admit that as far as this individual is concerned I have given up. It's just amusing seeing him open a thread to try to be irresponsible for his own starvation, and I could not let him get away with deceiving those who don't already know him especially since he changed monickers.

Yes, deceiving people has been his active pastime here and I have some evidence that it is even worst than that. He keeps comfirming it every time.

Blame myself for not checking

budaatum:
You telling me you noticed this about him from this one thread and his new moniker? You should check his previous monicker to see he expects to reap where he refuses to sow!

A better candidate for karma I have not seen.

Honestly, didn't know. I saw a thread from January where he was doing the same thing he is still doing know. I was really disappointed

Crystyano:
There's no reason why


Certain things are bound to happen


You can only prevent what is preventable.....

Chance is your reason which is not good enough.

What makes you think you have done your own part to make things better?

Maybe you have not done anything but been waiting on chance. Honestly from what recently discovered about you ,which was a surprise to me, you are not doing your own part.

You have given up?

And you just 24

Crystyano:
The other part is determined by chance

Why?

Crystyano:
You are vomitting sewage


'Partially responsible' is not shifting responsibility

Who has the other part?

Crystyano:
I am partially responsible

At this point of your life you're responsible for whatever happens to you either through you action or inaction. An acceptance of this ,would put you in position to take complete charge of your own life which rightly belongs to you in the first place and make changes


If someone treats you badly , it is because you put your self in a position to be treated that way or you lack the awareness to know the kind of person you were dealing with. If you don't want it to happen again, you learn to avoid the person or take action to increase your level of awareness so you know the
right action to take next time

So your life is your life to be lived by you alone. Don't shift the responsibility to another. Your life is not theirs

Karma is synonymous with self responsibility

Tobedated:
it nothing fancy nor instant it gradual it just that the more i learn of the world the more i see the bullshit in religion and them one day i decide to cut myself free

OK then, it means you were not really into it.

Tobedated:
Yes that right free from religion i can't believe i believed in that shit for a long time i hope others to find a way out it just sad that i can't convince my family what a pity

Can you please share your deconversion story? That is, what led to it

kingxsamz:
Like I said, it's bullcrap, just like Karma, god/God and juju.

What do you know about the law of karma to equate it with juju, god and astrology?

Truvelisback:
Oga, Karma dey. One way or the other, u will suffer the consequence.

I tel u say karma nor dey?

Karma dey but wetin you dey talk na retribution because e get to do with revenge by the person wey den steal from. But what if the juju nor work ?

Well karma still dey involve because if the person nor go rob ,nobody for plan to use juju for ham. That one naim be the real karma plus say one dey them go still catch ham. Everyday for arm robber, one day for the owner of the house.

Truvelisback:
Karma still dey, the ghost can haunt u to death or the person u stole from can harm or even kill u with juju.

You mean the ghost of the person you steal from before pursue u.

Is that so?

Workch:
It won’t be a problem if those who believe these fictions are not doing everything to make their fictions the norm.

Look at what’s happening in the United States today, Christians want biblical creationism and intelligent design to be taught science in science class. That’s a Big problem

Christians are spreading conspiracy theories about vaccines etc They get these ideas from the fictional books. This is why it’s important to contain them.
It brews fundamentalism and extremism, we shouldn’t sit back and allow that happen.

That's the problem actually. But I think the solution is education of the masses which is not happening in this part of the world.

If most people in Nigeria have access to good quality education and have their critical faculty skills fully developed, then the problem would be greatly reduced here.

It is not easy to completely indoctrinate anyone who has developed to that extent.