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MacDaddy01: Seriously, google has over half a billion links on evolution and you remain this ignorant?

dont bother, i already know that Google is YOUR god that answers all your questions.

thehomer: But didn't predict the Americas, Australia or Antarctica. It didn't predict Hitler or Stalin it simply contains a bunch of things the people of that time thought. Having only that knowledge today would be considered ignorant.

wrong root.

The prediction is on the world empire that will have an impact on the coming of the masaiah.

That is exclusively the msg of the bible OT. How/to the masaiah.

mkmyers45: From your theory of Intelligent design....How did god come about?

^^

how do you reconcile being a catholic and an atheist/agnostics?

MacDaddy01: Wow, what foolish thinking!

A mystery is not proof of anything. You dont say that "we dont know how Mr X died, therefore God killed him".

The pagan would say that the god of rain/water reveals himself through mysterious floods. That is the same nonsense you make when you claim that god reveals himself through mysteries.

Another thing is that a mystery by itself is unkown and not understandable. For you to claim that god did it is to acknowledge that you understand the mystery. Paradox. It is like christians claiming that the world was created in 6 days; are they geologists?

cant you do without the "F" word?

I thought that you/we have grown out of this?

vedaxcool: Op, as long as there is no link, I will have to call u a two faced liar! And even ur photo never showed the boy actually get crushed . . . U can do better, in any society sharia or not the boy would have been arrested by the police charged to court, the picture seems more like jungle justice . . . But no links seems u have something to hide . . .

^^^

human?

frosbel: Let me add my little voice to this

I hate to use the word rapture as it denotes a whole pile of trash called prophecy, aka the left behind series.

Jesus's coming will be sudden, no warning, no prior notification.

Only the wise will perceive that we are nearer to the time, but no one knows the date or time.

Jesus arrives in from the clouds at the blowing of the trumpet by the archangel, the dead in Christ are raised first and we who are alive will meet the Lord in the air.

Our bodies will be totally transformed in that one moment.

Now here's were rapturites get it wrong. No one is going to heaven.

We will come down with Christ from the clouds to judge the world.

There will be terror in the hearts of men in those days.

"Men will flee to caves in the rocks and to holes in the ground from dread of the LORD and the splendor of his majesty, when he rises to shake the earth." - Isaiah 2:19

Isaiah 2:20 In that day men will throw away to the rodents and bats their idols of silver and idols of gold, which they made to worship.


Then the white throne judgement starts :

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.



After the total destruction of Satan, his demons and wicked mankind in the lake of fire the earth will be purified and recreated for dwelling by the righteous.

Jesus Christ will rule from the new Jerusalem which will be in the same location as the old Jerusalem and he will be king forever after David.

1corinth 15:28

Goshen360: ^^^
Are you sure you want to debate this with me? You know I understand both sides of the argument?

same old Goshen!

The way you emberass yourself saying that alcohol is a "sin" when the bible has not said so the samething will happened to you here.

aletheia: . . .seeking to single-handedly rewrite the Bible. . .so where were these ones talked about here? On earth?
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? (Rev 6)

address the scriptures at the op.

Are those scriptures false?
Or you are cherrypicking?

Reyginus: When did persecution become the only form of guilt?
You can do better. I get it now. When atheists create threads to mock religionists and God it is not intolerance but tolerance.

but this is also true.

cyrexx: ive been busy lately doing some business here and there. but nothing can take away my sweet addiction to nairaland. its too sweet a habit to kick and im so loving it. BTW, thanxx for asking after me. its appreciated. thats humanity.




hmmm. i think he's doing quite well overall. you anti-atheist bias makes you ignore his sound points and you capitalise on his human errors and you would rather attack his person with every slightest opportunity. i would say this is a persecution that atheists have to face in our religion-dominated society. no problem, its all good.






@ bolded

WOW. i can see that you are turning the way of davidylan. i can start engaging you in foul languages if i so desire. but i wont, at least for now. lets just engage in meaningful conversation for now. aight?

you asked me: where is my humanity? now i'm asking you: where is your spirituality?

remember you said we non-believrs are going to eternal hell, do you want to join us in hell with your foul mouth and abusive languages? (even though some non-believers are morally far better than you christians)

let me remind you what the bible says.

Ephesians 4:29: Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.

James 3:10 From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so.

Colossians 4:6 Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how you ought to answer each person.

Matthew 15:10-11 And he called the people to him and said to them, “Hear and understand: it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.”

NOW LISTEN AND LISTEN WELL

Matthew 12:36 I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak


James 2:10 For the person who keeps all of the laws except one is as guilty as a person who has broken all of God's laws.

1 Cor 6:9-10 Don't you know that those who do wrong will have NO share in the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who Indulge in Sexuall Sin, who are Idol Worshipers, Adulterers, Male Prostitutes, Homosexuals, Thieves, Greedy people, Drunkards, Abusers, and Swindlers—NONE OF THESE will have a share in the KINGDOM OF GOD.



so before you verbally attack an atheist in your "anti-humanity" crusade.
think twice. so that you dont descend so low so as to fall in the same category as the people you are condemning to hell.

cheers.

^^

well said.

swiftsulex: Whats d conclusion of the matter please. The arguments have been made.whts d verdict. Is alcohol consumption a sin?yes or no

read that Deut 14:26 for yourself so that when someone start lying to you, then you can tell.

I belive that Vers is very clear on this matter.

obadiah777: a new earth simply means - a new set of righteous citizens on earth just as a new heaven simply means a new set of rulership on earth. they dont actually mean physical places. they are people. 'renewed righteous people'

[quote author=frosbel][/quote]^^^
you did not add psalm 37:29

Goshen360: Thank you jare my sister.....you have asked wisely. I changed my mind because I just realized (from the word of God) I have been missing out on my "kingdom privilege and biblical rights" as a minister of the Gospel. Hence, I changed my mind so I can have my full rights and privilege. What I now believe about tithing is that, it valid as mentioned in NT. Abi you sef wan debate mi ni Am very sure you even dare me

You know you are lying!

But i also know that greed blinds the individual to the truth And is very deceitful

So, i can understand your plight.

musKeeto: hmm.. a bit surprised this didn't get to front page... *racking brain*..

Too much hypocricy thats Why.

aletheia: (Deu 14:26) And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,


Now this will set the cat among the pigeons.

give me a hand shake!

Goshen! Where are you?

Stop saying what the bible did not say.

Like when you said alcoholic drink is a "sin"

nuclearboy: ^^ Is that the one that Agaba and co listened to? Or the one Ikeja whores sway their hips to? Or is it the one that made you ask wonder if Moses died? Or the one that makes you, a pastor, ask if Magic is real? Or the one that made you say God cut out Eve from Adam because Adam was originally bi-sexual? Dude, whatever you're smoking is weapons grade!

But you are right - something is eating me up inside. It is the insidiousness of you and your type - fat bloated pests living off the blood and work of others, offering them baseless hope in return for their livelihood which you use to purchase what you assume to be prestige. But is it really prestige, Jo-boy? Take NL as a sampling of society - how confident are you here with everyone expressing their disgust at you? How happy are you to be so ridiculed all the time. Can you show me one thread where you presented information that didn't embarrass you eventually?

Which is why I told you to stick to the pulpit - there, no one can ask you questions or show you up. They may shake their heads and rightly think - this guy is definitely a slowpoke, but they can't say it out which helps you somewhat in your delusion. Here though, you'll find people who study the Word and know God - so you are toast!

^^^

hmmm!

nuclearboy: ^^ Kai, why are you talking to yourself? You forget I am aware of the time your "unholiness" shared connection, roof, bed and body with mabel? At least, yourself said you forgot to log out and she took over. The rest is math.

((CE member Joagbaje[b]+[/b]a CE woman) * night-time posting in his house) to the power of chris embassy = unholiness + (indecency raised to the power of x); where x is a positive integer likely greater than 1, 000.

OR

Joagbaje = mabell (which still means you share bed)

And that is your problem - you CE people have so much lawful BUT NOT EXPEDIENT stuff around you AND what has been brought to the light of day has been non-stop fraud, robbery, adult-rated matters, etc, that you're like dirt itself. Yet you open that ghoulish, hellish abyss in your face and say you are the ruler of the world. Which world? The one in which you carry chris' bag and jump to do his bidding? Where you get paid - a lackey at his master's feet and that master a man? Where you open your trap and what issues is worse than garbage? Wonderment 

Money ko, Cowries ni. You that begs to collect tithes doesn't like money but me that works for my living am the one worshipping money. Who are you fooling? fyneguy (jeri-curls the 2nd), donnie (dumb-don) and co? which reminds me - I'd like to see the curls on that chris-worshippers head. Can you guys post a pick of "fyuneguy"?

The pharisees accused Christ so I'm not suprised you accuse me. What you are is exactly them - a beautifully adorned coffin carrying a 2 month old corpse!

Abeg, make I hear word!

^^^
lol

Goshen360: @ truthislight

This is one issue with you. First, you only call yourself "truthislight" but lack how to communicate with other people called believers like yourself. This has been seen many times with you in this session. I pray you look into this aspect of your life.

Second. I gave up on you and Ijawkid in giving you more scriptures where the Holy Spirit is called God since I realized you are hard bent and believe the Holy Spirit is ONLY a force, influencer or power from God to a believer and not a distinct being. The scripture I first gave you and Ijawkid where the Holy Spirit is called God:

But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back [part] of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. Acts 5:3-4 Kjv

What did you do with the scripture after I gave it to you? You and Ijawkid turned it down and came up with stories saying it's not valid (on your own authority) and it doesn't mean what it say. Now, how can lie unto the Holy Ghost be lie unto God IF the Holy Ghost is not God OR how can lie unto God be same as lie unto Holy Ghost IF Holy Ghost is not God?

Third. I gave up talking to you and Ijawkid on this subject with the thought that, how am I sure if I give you another scripture saying the Holy Spirit is God....How am I sure you will still not cook up another story against it? And yet, you are looking for scriptures that explicitly call the Holy Spirit, God. You simple don't believe in Trinity and the evidence is very clear. So no amount of scriptures shown to you, Ijawkid, frosbel and others alike will do anything. You will still come up around reasoning God as 1+1+1 rather than 1x1x1.

if i should call you a LIAR now, you will start crying but that is who you are.

Where in those scriptures did it say the "holy spirit is a God"?

Stop twisting the word of God to fit it into your pegan doctrine!

Deep Sight: My dear brother.

Please do not be sucked into this confusion.

GOD = GOD.

Jesus = Jesus.

Holy Spirit = The Living Power of God.

^^^
beautifully stated.

Goshen360: You have asked this kweshion many times in the past. If you ask me, na who I go ask......You do not expect to see the Holy Spirit when it is written,

But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. John 16:7 NIV.

The Holy Spirit is operating in the lives of believers on earth today being possessed in their regenerated spirits. This is the Spirit that indwells a mortal man to show or reveal the visions you talked about. Now, if this Spirit indwells the above mentioned believers, do you expect the same Holy Spirit to show/reveal Himself while He indwells this believers

If you ask me na who I go ask.....O ya, ask the audience....

according to you, you have three Gods and not one .

Good for you.

Ihedinobi: Good. You see, I just received my mission in this discussion. From now on, I'm the court clown. I'm gonna take every comment that reeks of idiocy and perform corrective surgery on it. Not all comments can be healed though, some like most of truthislight's are terminally ill with cancer in very advanced stages of metastasis, so I won't bother with those.

thank you

aletheia: So you agree that Jesus is God. Good. Now consider these:
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost
What do you understand by this verse? What does "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" mean?

2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. 3 And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away. 4 ¶So they, being sent forth by the Holy Ghost, departed unto Seleucia; and from thence they sailed to Cyprus.(Acts 13)

3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? (Acts 5)

So let's see. . .the Holy Spirit speaks, refers to Himself as I, sends out people and can be lied to. Can an impersonal influence do all these or have personal attributes as these?

Oh and by the way, you agree that it is God and not men who are blasphemed against, wouldn't you?
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. (Matthew 12)

^^^
are this the explicit calling of the holy spirit God?

Did you not read and see how clear Jesus was called God? Isaiah 9:6

Or those are inferences of God Yahweh activities via his power?

This power that he sent to Jesus and also his apostles com his disciples?

How then do you or can you understand the gift of the spirit that enabled the disciples to speak in tonques? Was that also not the holy spirit?

That they spoke in tongues is that not the doing of the holy spirit?

So, when the holy spirit enable someone to speak in tongues we call that person God?

What of when it enable an animal to speak?

When James address the audience on the issue of circumcission did he and them the apostles and older men not say it was the holyspirit? Hmmm!

Does'nt those that speak in tongues also say it is the holy spirit that is talking?

This is too petty an inference.

Goshen360: Brother Frosbel......on the highlight above, ARE YOU SURE THIS IS YOU SAYING THIS......AM NOT SURE IT'S THE FROSBEL I KNOW.......Abeg my people, hope hackers never hack our brother username on this forum o. THIS IS STRANGE TO HEAR. Brother Frosbel, this is JW's spirit, please i beg of you. Take some time to relax and stay off this topic and nairaland for a while, if possible. Please, I beg you.

God bless you.

are you so much afraid or the Jws?

Why not show Frosbel one scripture that called the holy spirit God like it does Yahweh and Jesus christ?

Even satan is directly called god.

But you guys want to hoodwink him..

Lol.

aletheia: Pope Frosbel. Is that your attempt to reduce your confusion to arithmetic of human derivation and logic?
I know for sure this:
The Father is God, Jesus is God, The Holy Spirit is God. Simple. The scriptures are unequivocally clear on this. . .even the OT is unambiguous about it:
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.(Isa 9:6)

why are you not showing where the bible called the holy spirit a "God" and not implying it is?

That Isaiah 9:6 that you quoted cant you see how explicit it is in calling Jesus God?

If the holy spirit is a God dont you think that The bible will have explicitly say so?

Can God have forgotten?

So God forgot to call the holy spirit God and needed you Guys to help him out?

Delafruita: i have been watching from the sidelines and i have noticed none of the christians has attempted to explain the incoherence in those verses.they seem confused as to how to align it.i felt i should give them a little gift by adding a few more bible inconsistencies

matthew 2:1 now when jesus was born in bethlehem of judea in the days of herod the king.......

luke 2:2-7 and this taxing was first made when QUIRINIUS was governor of syria.
verse 7- and she brought forth her first born son and ........

matthew says herod was king when jesus was born,luke says quirinius was governor.history tells us herod died 12 years before quirinius became governor of syria so.........

mathew 2:12-13
12-and been warned of the lord not to return to herod,they departed into their own country through another way

13- and when they were depparted,an angel of the lord appeared to joseph in a dream saying,arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into egypt......


luke 2:20-39

20-and the shepherds returned,glorifying and praising god for all the things that they had heard and seen..........

22- and when the days of her purification according to the law of moses were completed,they brought him to jerusalem to present him to the lord

39- and when they had performed all things according to the law,they returned to galilee,to their own city nazareth

Hmmmmm!!!


This two fellows!

Dalafruita and rymhz


Birds of the same feather?

Choice of words and grama so similar

Hmmm!

Very informative

Goshen360: @ Ijawkid and truthislight,

Wow!

Well, I believe you guys should sit down and simple comprehend the scripture. I STOPPED to blame ANY CHRISTIAN since the day the Lord opened my eyes to the truth that.....

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Our knowledge is incomplete and our ability to speak what God has revealed is incomplete. 1 Cor. 13:9

The verse I gave up there SHOULD have read, IF the Holy Spirit is not separate from God........"why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost.....thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God the Holy Ghost. And besides, why do you guys think Jesus would say, sin against the Father (Yahweh) shall be forgiven, sin against the son shall be forgiven but sin against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven. Who then is the Holy Ghost that sin against shall not be forgiven

The context of the verse I quoted up there simple calls the Holy Ghost God in the sense that it talks about LYING TO HOLY GHOST AND THE NEXT VERSE CALLS THIS HOLY GHOST GOD and there is evidence in scripture that the Holy Ghost is distinct from God. The bible doesn't speak in tongues my brothers. I guess I might be busy today but I will resume this discussion when am back.

@ Ijawkid,
The verse you quoted simply talks about "authority/submission". Jesus off course......

New Living Translation (©2007)
Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to. Philippians 2:6

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

(You can read different translations of this verse here: http://bible.cc/philippians/2-6.htm).

For whatever reason, best known to the Holy Spirit who inspired the word, I do not know why the Holy Spirit was not in the verse of I Cor. 11:3. I will be back to share more. Thank you.

^^^
this your question why is it that sin against the holy spirit will not be forgiving is very elementery!

Let me help you out.

IN my last post i had explain why sinning against the holy spirit is a sin against God.

Now, why will sin against Yahweh be forgiving and sin against Jesus will be forgiving but sin against the holy spirit will not be forgiving?

This will be a straith forward answer cus it is very elementery.

Eg. In this forum NL/other places there are those (eg atheist) that dont have the accurate knowledge about Yahweh and his son Jesus christ and as such they say all sort of things about Yahweh and Jesus christ out of ignorance even insulting them.

This is similar to a child putting his hand into fire cus it (s)he does not know what it is doing and need to be help/protected,

it/they atheist can be forgiving since it is a function of ignorance.

but not the same with a sane adult Deliberately putting his hands into fire, such an act cannot be excused.


And such people ^^^^ cannot have the free gift of the holy spirit since they dont have a use of it and dont have a recognition by God for such a gift.

God searches the heart of men and even the kidneys and knows what the awareness is.

When some one come to an accurate knowledge of truth God GIVE him the free gift of the holy spirit for rightiouse acts and purposes, if this individual for whatever reasons, if greed or whatever makes him to decide to work contrary to the leading of the holy spirit in righteousness,
and DELIBERATELY go contrary to it in doing what is bad unrepentantly, this gift that he willfully turn against is called sinning against the holy spirit.

For such individual the essence of the massage about the christ is no longer of value and such individual is not what God's kindness is meant. His chapter is a close case since he was neither deceived or ignorant but wilfully rejected God's undeserved kindness.

Such individual will undergo an everlasting destruction. A death without resurrection...........

Ie. The spirit of God that kept him alive Goes back to God without it ever coming back to bring him back to life.

In that case his soul(life) is dead and is dead for all eternity.

This is a thing that only the almighty God can do/achieve since he is the custodian of the force that keep humans alive. QED

This is what is meant by sinning against the holyspirit.

Peace

plappville: Are you serious? don't you think its dangerious for ur Health/Family, i mean, why should NL be ur stress medicine ? na wa ooo i dey laugh hereeeeeee !!!

what is wrong with Frosbel statment?

Dont you want him to make a decent living?

Must every one live on tith money?

Goshen360: @ Ijawkid and truthislight,

Wow!

Well, I believe you guys should sit down and simple comprehend the scripture. I STOPPED to blame ANY CHRISTIAN since the day the Lord opened my eyes to the truth that.....

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Our knowledge is incomplete and our ability to speak what God has revealed is incomplete. 1 Cor. 13:9

The verse I gave up there SHOULD have read, IF the Holy Spirit is not separate from God........"why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost.....thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God the Holy Ghost. And besides, why do you guys think Jesus would say, sin against the Father (Yahweh) shall be forgiven, sin against the son shall be forgiven but sin against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven. Who then is the Holy Ghost that sin against shall not be forgiven

The context of the verse I quoted up there simple calls the Holy Ghost God in the sense that it talks about LYING TO HOLY GHOST AND THE NEXT VERSE CALLS THIS HOLY GHOST GOD and there is evidence in scripture that the Holy Ghost is distinct from God. The bible doesn't speak in tongues my brothers. I guess I might be busy today but I will resume this discussion when am back.

@ Ijawkid,
The verse you quoted simply talks about "authority/submission". Jesus off course......

New Living Translation (©2007)
Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to. Philippians 2:6

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

(You can read different translations of this verse here: http://bible.cc/philippians/2-6.htm).

For whatever reason, best known to the Holy Spirit who inspired the word, I do not know why the Holy Spirit was not in the verse of I Cor. 11:3. I will be back to share more. Thank you.

^^^

is that where the bible called the holy spirit "God"?

You are really a character!

So God made a mistake for calling his son God and forgot to call the holy spirit "God"?
Isaiah 9:6

Yahweh called himself God almighty but forgot to call the holy spirit "God" ?
Exodus 6:3

Yahweh called satan god but forgot to call the holy spirit "God"i
2corinthians 4:4

though Yahweh said that their are many gods he still forgot to call the holy spirit "God"

though men are reference as god in the bible Yahweh still forgot to call the holy spirit "God"

Yahweh use his power holy spirit to write the bible, like you had said that the "holy spirit is a person/God" that means it forgot to identify himself as "God"?

you had said that the bible CALLED the holy spirit a "God" when it does not, so, what does that make you?
= a LIAR

frosbel: Yes.

But the question you should ask is, authority to what extent.

Let us use Joseph as a case in point.

"42 Then Pharaoh took his signet ring from his hand and put it on Joseph's hand, and clothed him in garments of fine linen and put a gold chain about his neck. 43 And he made him ride in his second chariot. And they called out before him, “Bow the knee!”[e] Thus he set him over all the land of Egypt. 44 Moreover, Pharaoh said to Joseph, “I am Pharaoh, and without your consent no one shall lift up hand or foot in all the land of Egypt.” 45 And Pharaoh called Joseph's name Zaphenath-paneah. And he gave him in marriage Asenath, the daughter of Potiphera priest of On. So Joseph went out over the land of Egypt." - Genesis 41


Joseph was not Pharaoh, but he was operating under the authority of Pharaoh.


Another example is arch angel Micheal who rebuked SATAN not in his own name or authoity but in the name of the Lord, Yahweh.

"But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" - Jude 1:9

it shows that Yahweh does delegate other Angels to come to earth on his behalf and that does not make those Angel's Yahweh.

People should read the bible well and stop following tradition.

Peace

OLAADEGBU: Good point. That verse asserts that Jesus Christ was God in human form as we can see in the KJV below:

"Jesus said to them, Verily, verily, I say to you, Before Abraham was, I am" -- John 8:58 The Evidence Bible.

Someone explained it like this:

"If I give you a small slice of cheese from a large block (the taste being constant throughout the whole block), and you spit out the cheese saying you hate the taste, then you reject the whole block. Jesus was God manifest in human form. If the Jews and other religious folks rejected Him, they rejected the Father also -- he who is of God hears God's words".

John corroborates this in his epistle when he wrote:

"Whosoever denies the Son, the same has not the Father, (but) he that acknowledges the Son has the Father also" (1 John 2:23).

for a teaching to have a claim of being biblical it has to flow consistently from GENESIS to Revelation.

It does not need human to force it in.

frosbel: The authority of Yahweh's name.

If I came to your house with the authority of the King to protect your city from wicked enemies, that simply means I have the full authority as a servant of the king to call up an army in his name to defend your city .

so, as an envoy of the king if it is demanded of you of your authority, what will you put forward?

frosbel: 20 “Behold, I am going to send an angel before you to guard you along the way and to bring you into the place which I have prepared. 21 Be on your guard before him and obey his voice; do not be rebellious toward him, for he will not pardon your transgression, since My name is in him.

The angel was God's angel sent to guide the children of Israel , he was given the authority in the name of GOD.

So he was an angel , probably one of God's mighty angels.

but was authorised to bear whose name?