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FearGodAndLive: How many ways are there to disbelieve in God?

At least six, according to a new study.

Two researchers at University of Tennessee at Chattanooga found that atheists and agnostics run the range from vocally anti-religious activists to nonbelievers who nonetheless observe some religious traditions.

“The main observation is that nonbelief is an ontologically diverse community,” write doctoral student Christopher Silver and undergraduate student Thomas Coleman.

“These categories are a first stab at this," Silver told the website Raw Story. "In 30 years, we may be looking at a typology of 32 types.”

Silver and Coleman derived their six types of nonbelievers from 59 interviews. We're pretty sure we've spotted all six in our comments section.

1) Intellectual atheist/agnostic
This type of nonbeliever seeks information and intellectual stimulation about atheism.
They like debating and arguing, particularly on popular Internet sites.
(Ahem.)
They're also well-versed in books and articles about religion and atheism, and prone to citing those works frequently.

2) Activist
These kinds of atheists and agnostics are not content with just disbelieving in God; they want to tell others why they reject religion and why society would be better off if we all did likewise.
They tend to be vocal about political causes like gay rights, feminism, the environment and the care of animals.

3) Seeker-agnostic
This group is made up of people who are unsure about the existence of a God but keep an open mind and recognize the limits of human knowledge and experience.
Silver and Coleman describe this group as people who regularly question their own beliefs and “do not hold a firm ideological position.”
That doesn't mean this group is confused, the researchers say. They just embrace uncertainty.

4) Anti-theist
This group regularly speaks out against religion and religious beliefs, usually by positioning themselves as “diametrically opposed to religious ideology,” Silver and Coleman wrote.
“Anti-theists view religion as ignorance and see any individual or institution associated with it as backward and socially detrimental,” the researchers wrote. “The Anti-Theist has a clear and – in their view, superior – understanding of the limitations and danger of religions.”
Anti-theists are outspoken, devoted and – at times – confrontational about their disbelief. They believe that "obvious fallacies in religion and belief should be aggressively addressed in some form or another.”

5) Non-theist
The smallest group among the six are the non-theists, people who do not involve themselves with either religion or anti-religion.
In many cases, this comes across as apathy or disinterest.
“A Non-Theist simply does not concern him or herself with religion,” Silver and Coleman wrote. “Religion plays no role or issue in one’s consciousness or worldview; nor does a Non- Theist have concern for the atheist or agnostic movement.”
They continue: “They simply do not believe, and in the same right, their absence of faith means the absence of anything religion in any form from their mental space.”

6) Ritual atheist
They don't believe in God, they don’t associate with religion, and they tend to believe there is no afterlife, but the sixth type of nonbeliever still finds useful the teachings of some religious traditions.
“They see these as more or less philosophical teachings of how to live life and achieve happiness than a path to transcendental liberation,” Silver and Coleman wrote. “For example, these individuals may participate in specific rituals, ceremonies, musical opportunities, meditation, yoga classes, or holiday traditions.”
For many of these nonbelievers, their adherence to ritual may stem from family traditions. For others, its a personal connection to, or respect for, the "profound symbolism" inherent within religious rituals, beliefs and ceremonies, according the researchers.
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/15/the-six-types-of-atheists/

But this ^ is a good post i think so, why then is manmustwac angry ?

manmustwac, what is it you dont like in that post ?

Image123: Why can you not assume that the woman on her left was tagging along with her twice during the wedding picture taking? Is it so weird and out of this world to take more than one picture with a bride? And for you to see that that woman is the bride's mother(supposedly from other photos previously seen)? Why is your mind so blinded to simple and common sense in this issue? Is it not because you are most bent as a busy bodied hypocrite to discredit that wedding and church? It appears that the meaning of the word 'shady' is lost on you. You are known for twisting Bible so no big deal if you choose to twist the meaning of my words. There is nothing photoshopped in any of the two pictures. Its what you get under different light intensities and perhaps different cameras. There is NO jewellery in any of the pictures. It is only people who want to see faults that are seeing it. What i see is a reflection of light playing on the dress and the camera. These two pictures have been on the internet for a while now, for you to claim Ola supplied it as a desperate attempt shows how desperate you are.

Sharrap !

Mr fraud and tithe collector.

Did the woman by her side gumed her all through the wedding.

Did she wear a big hat befor the wedding and removed it befor the wedding ?

You are a disgrace to truth.

This is what eating other peoples money fraudulently can caused >> a dead conscience.

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OLAADEGBU: Ai tete mole ole mu oloko. Another tried and tested tactic of the accuser of the brethren is to make the first accusation.

Sharrap !

Your deeperlife members have suffered indeed if this is the way you feed them with lies.

Jesus said that his load is light.

But you and your Oga Kumuyi have heaped up heavy load that you cant carry on peoples shoulder.

Can you now answer the question why is the bride that used a limousine for her wedding now having her Wedding in an uncompleted building ?

In the pictures that you presented ?

Did you fraudulent editted the real pictures and gave to us ?

OLAADEGBU: The hall of shame of the accusers of the brethren:





















If they don't repent they shall have their part with the devil who they are sharing a title with.

(Rev.12:10-11).

(1 John 3:.

Sharrap !

You are a fraud and remained a fraud until otherwise proven.

Who are you trying to intimidate ?

Do you think we are your deeperlife sheeple members that you have used blanket to blind fold ?

Dont test my patience o!

I hate deceit with passion.

Where did you get those fraudulent pictures from ?

OLAADEGBU: Can you see how God has exposed the accusers of the brethren on this forum? The bone of contention was the fact that the bride didn't wear earrings but you guys have been so blinded with hatred for the truth that you couldn't see it and you all started shooting yourselves in the foot.

Mr fraud, the picture that has the ear ring on is with other people, but the picture you presented is in an uncompleted house in a seemingly ghetto.

Why the difference ?

Is that not what you should have first clarified ?

Do you have any moral justification to accused anybody here ?

Dont you have the fear of God ?

Dont you know that God hates liars ?

[quote author=tpia@]may God free the lady from these unclean minds [such as the op].

they're probably wanking to her picture, so disgusting, may God forgive you.[/quote]Deeper life church is purnishing her and her father for breaking no law of God.

Who then really needs the forgiveness ?

Is it not deeper life church ?

Pls, direct your prayers well.

(that is if you are a honest person).

Image123: This is very dull thinking, kindly think out of the cage in your shabby attempts at critique. Those are TWO different pictures of the same person on the same day. One in a church, the other probably outside in a shady environment. minds can indeed be blinded.

You are his second in command, are you a fraud too ?

Is that not the picture he has been showing to us and saying that "the bride has committed no sin" by deeper life standards ?

What do you thing prompted the question that if the wife committed no sin, why did they apologised and why was her father suspended ?

You risk being considered a fraud though you collect tithe and many such things.

Ye all should change your ways befor it is too late.

BERNIMOORE: Bigcake



INFACT! the picture manipulator does not know that jesus is watching that criminal act, he is really jobless, pls thank me for exposing the photoshoped hands of jacob and legs of esau above!

How can a couple from US and jamaica do their wedding inside unplastered building in the picture supplied to cover up above?, unplastered building HABAAAA

Thank you for your good work.

BERNIMOORE: can anyone glance this, maybe im not correct? should supply further and counter proofs;




Having compared the two pictures, im disappointed for the fact that the picture, (tagged Sample B) which you supplied was misleading, and a desperate attempt to cover-up, which further soiled the seeming reputation of the deeper life.

to prove that the picture you supplied is totally misleading, after carefull consideration,

below is:

SAMPLE A, a bigger picture that capture more of the people around and inside the church of which the deeper life faithfuls are not denying,

SAMPLE B, is a combination of the pics of the bride splitted further to, B1 and B2 respectively, B1(you reffered to as untouched) and B2(that you falsely claimed that was altered)

SAMPLE B2, Zoomed and compare with SAMPLE A was a direct copy of the bride without argument,features of SAMPLE B2 that totally agrees with SAMPLE A;

# she smiles,
# facing up,
# and gripping her flowers (at the stem) with both hands,
# and the woman beside the bride was not wearing a big hat,
# moreso, the wall of the church was plastred

SAMPLE B1 (that you reffered to as untouched) was zoomed, and the manipulations were shoking! yes shoking!


SAMPLE B1 is not the same picture as SAMPLE A, SAMPLE B1 is at its best (cut out) from one of the pictures taking from the brides dressing room before she wore the jewelries, lets compare the features with SAMPLE A

# facing down
# picture pasted in an uncompleted building exposing the conduit pipes, was the wedding done in an uncompleted building? a desperate attempt to get a background like that of the church in SAMPLE A (poor job)
# two hands wearing rings were cut out and placed beside the flower to cover-up poor blending with the woman in green,suggesting that no hands were holding the flowers at all! incredible!
# the woman in green beside the bride is wearing an oversized hat, [b] but in the original SAMPLE A it was a small/moderate hat.
[/b]

so, until a bigger picture of SAMPLE B1 showing naturally people around it is produced to counter this SAMPLE A, this particular act of (1)misleading, and (2) criminal manipulation further soiled and put more shame to the faces of the producer of the picture.

dont bother try to remove this pictures, i have saved them , i dont need special permmissions!

https://www.nairaland.com/1350911/must-read-dust-raised-john/7
https://www.nairaland.com/1350911/must-read-dust-raised-john/6

Oladegbu is a fraud!

rabzy: Fire has been used figuratively in the bible in many ways, it has been associated with love, passion,anger, judgement, the word of God was a fire jeremiah cud not keep inside, it has been associated with zeal, Gods angels are a consuming fire, it has symbolized cleansing and refining, it also has connoted testing, a test by fire shows the quality we made up as xtians, suffering for righteousness has also been refered as burning by peter. There are several other symbolism.
But the context in which we are talking about is everlasting fire which symbolizes total destruction with no hope of ressurection.

The beauty and teaching of the truth.

You did a God job.

For those that have an honest heart and not using "hell fire" to threaten and exploit people in their churches, they will learn and grow more in the truth.

Well done.

rabzy: Let me talk a little about gehenna. The meaning is the valley of the sons of hinnom. It is a valley very close to jerusalem and it was used by the Idolatrous kings of Judah to burn their sons as sacrifice to the God molech. The practice was so disgusting to God, that he said in Jeremiah that he never commanded them to burn their sons in fire and that such a thing has never come up in his mind. Jer.7v31, 32v35
Then several prophets prophesied that the israelites will die in their thousands in that same valley and their carcasses will litter the place. It was prophesied datit wud serve as a place for mass disposal of dead bodies.
Eventually it became a place where all sorts of disgusting things are dumped and also the bodies of people not fit for burial such as criminals. Sulphur and brimstone was always added to keep the fire going and places where the fire can't get to, worms and other putrefying agents will devour the flesh of such carcasses. The worms will die but they never finish because others will replace dem and the fire is always rekindled to burn of their wastes and whatever else is thrown there.
It became a place of annihilation and destruction and the fire never quenches. It is a place of complete destruction.
The israelites believe in the resurrection and that is why they call their graves memorial tombs because they believe they are in Gods memory and wud be called back to life.
But anybody whose carcass was thrown into gehenna is deemed unfit to be buried or remembered by God, the worst of people are dumped there. So in the minds of the israelites the judgement of gehenna is a judgement of annihilation with no hope of coming back.

beautiful! simply beautiful !!!

Logicboy03: See this male prostitute! Learnt what from Kails? African tribes from an AKATA Jamaiacan? Either you are lying to get that booty or you are as dull as I thought you were.

Fake guy

This logicboy get bad mouth oh !

See how him dey enter Uyi.

Lol.

obadiah777: I WAS ACTUALLY KIDDING ABOUT WANTING GARRI. I CAN TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. I HAVE PROBABLY HAD IT LIKE 10 TIMES IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. AND JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE ENJOYS READING THE BIBLE DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE GODLY. TAKE GOSHEN FOR EXAMPLE. HE IS A SUPER HEATHEN

Chei !

NL no go kill person with laugh.

@Obediah777

you dong craze finish.

lol.

Why are you doing this na ?

This scripture you have quoted below about flogging is not talking about Jesus, but rather, Solomon.

Must you pass on false information ?

Frank4YAHWEH: The prophecy of Yahshua's birth required he was of the true lineage of Dawid:

Kepha was quoting the following:

When your time is over and you rest with your ancestors, I will raise up your offspring to succeed you, your own flesh and blood, and I will establish his kingdom. He is the one who will build a house for My Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. I will be his father, and he will be my son. When he does wrong, I will punish him with a rod wielded by men, with floggings inflicted by human hands. But My love will never be taken away from him, as I took it away from Shaul, whom I removed from before you. Your house and your kingdom will endure forever before Me; your throne will be established forever (2 Samuyl 7:12-16).

That ^^^ is where God told Devid that he will not let him to be the one that will build the temple(house) for him, that his hands are stained with blood, but that his son (solomon) after him will build the temple, and that was what happened, is it not so ?

Is it not solomon that build the temple for God ?

But it was Devid that started the plans for building of the temple, but Yahweh said no, that his son will do it after him.

Do you mind quoting the previous verses ?

See, deceit is dangerous, it can cause one his chances of gaining everlasting life.

Dont forget, "liars will not inherit God's kingdom".

Peace.

shdemidemi: Truthislight is missing the point mehn!

"christians" using propaganda.

its not about trashing or crashing me, but your life is at stake for maligning Yahweh.

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alexleo: Hahahahahaaha.... You can see the thrash that makes him feel he is the true teacher. Its either you believe his contaminated explanations or you are not a truth speaker. Dem dey try no be small.

Ignorance is bliss.

superior1: The refuse dump was sustained by fire, the refuse no dey burn?. Sir, are you in anyway related to ali baba or AY? You are a talented comedian o

You better Google valley of hinnom then Gehenna and read to upgrade yourself.

superior1: I still don't get the point you are trying to make sir

Befor ?

Is that not obvious ? That you have problem with understanding ?

You better start helping yourself.

Mother church and her daughters will not like this that.

[quote author=tpia@]Please leave the couple to settle down into their newly married life for goodness sake.

Obviously you have a mighty crush on the wife while some other folks have a mighty crush on the husband, however you all should move on and go check other people, or dont weddings take place everyday.

If its the shock of seeing good looking people in deeper life thats worrying you, then too bad.

Shows how much you know.[/quote]The couple have done nothing wrong deserving of the torture that deeper life is putting them through and had put other couples and their perent through.

It is this torture in the name of God that we are against.

And again, the hypocrisy.

The lies being told here.

Fake pictures even when the bride and groom have come out to apologised.

Suspension of the brides father, while the groomed's father goes untouched.

Hypocrites !

BERNIMOORE: OLAADEGBU




Having compared the two pictures, im disappointed for the fact that the picture, (tagged Sample B) which you supplied was misleading, and a desperate attempt to cover-up, which further soiled the seeming reputation of the deeper life.

to prove that the picture you supplied is totally misleading, after carefull consideration,

below is:

SAMPLE A, a bigger picture that capture more of the people around and inside the church of which the deeper life faithfuls are not denying,

SAMPLE B, is a combination of the pics of the bride splitted further to, B1 and B2 respectively, B1(you reffered to as untouched) and B2(that you falsely claimed that was altered)

SAMPLE B2, Zoomed and compare with SAMPLE A was a direct copy of the bride without argument,features of SAMPLE B2 that totally agrees with SAMPLE A;

# she smiles,
# facing up,
# and gripping her flowers (at the stem) with both hands,
# and the woman beside the bride was not wearing a big hat,
# moreso, the wall of the church was plastred

SAMPLE B1 (that you reffered to as untouched) was zoomed, and the manipulations were shoking! yes shoking!


SAMPLE B1 is not the same picture as SAMPLE A, SAMPLE B1 is at its best (cut out) from one of the pictures taking from the brides dressing room before she wore the jewelries, lets compare the features with SAMPLE A

# facing down
# picture pasted in an uncompleted building exposing the conduit pipes, was the wedding done in an uncompleted building? a desperate attempt to get a background like that of the church in SAMPLE A (poor job)
# two hands wearing rings were cut out and placed beside the flower to cover-up poor blending with the woman in green,suggesting that no hands were holding the flowers at all! incredible!
# the woman in green beside the bride is wearing an oversized hat, [b] but in the original SAMPLE A it was a small/moderate hat.
[/b]

so, until a bigger picture of SAMPLE B1 showing naturally people around it is produced to counter this SAMPLE A, this particular act of (1)misleading, and (2) criminal manipulation further soiled and put more shame to the faces of the producer of the picture.

dont bother try to remove this pictures, i have saved them , i dont need special permmissions!

The woman now wearing a big hat now, makes me to laugh. .

Deeper life with their work of confusing and deceiving people.

Smh for them.

Fraud in religion.

alexleo: Oh you want me to stop directing people to the bible so that they will rely on your adulterated explanations? God Forbid. So all those stick to the bible you have been screaming before was all about sticking to your teachings and believe. I reject it sir.



Point of correction. i never opened that thread to teach anybody. I no dey claim teacher like you(even when you offer adulterated and poisonous stuff). I narrated an experience i had for people to contribute to it and like i said, the OP has been addressed.



Yes o am so empty thats why i need to fill myself with the Original word of God. Direct from the scriptures and not your adulterated explanations which i consider poisonous to my spiritual growth and well being. And of course Revelations is the word of God not your word so i dont need your explanations to it. Keep your signs and symbol theories to yourself. I have nothing to lose if i believe the bible the way it is written but i have everything to lose if i believe your adulterated version which you call teaching.




Ahh...no problem. Dont bother showing. Carry your show biz dey go and save me the poison. Thanks.

You ran from your thread because they asked you a question based on what you belief.

So, go and answer them and stop running.

Cant you defend what you belief again ?

Smh for you.

superior1: Frosbel, before I respond, do you by your second question accept that man is made up of the spirit, soul and body?

You are repeating soul two times.

Body + spirit = soul.

You are saying man is "soul + soul".

This is what the bible says:

"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." (Genesis 2:7).
.............

Read ^ slowly till you understand.

olumyde: Imagine! So Jesus is warning ppl, to pluck out their eyes if necessary so that they will not be thrown into "a refuse dump outside the wall of Jerusalem...lol

The refuse dump was sustain by fire.

That fire was the symbolism he was warning people about.

Complete destruction of "body and soul in fire".

God's destruction is "body and soul in fire".

Fire symbolises a destruction caused by God.

Anything that is thrown into this 'Fire' in the bible is permanently destroyed.

Permanent destruction it is since there is no one else that can undo it.

That 'fire' shows the difference between Adamic death and a death caused by God.

truthislight: "Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:" (Isaiah 28:9-10).

superior1: And what exactly is your point

You see your life ?

At this point you yet dont know one of the rules governing the study of the bible and understanding it ?

That it is a little here of the scripture and a little there like paul and Jesus did ?

How then can you be right with what you belief ?

alexleo: My dear, yes o I have nothing to offer than what is written in the scriptures. Where is it witten in the scriptures that the book of revelation is written in symbol? This is your own idea and I don't need it. And if it is written in symbol you now have the sole and perfect interpretation of the symbol? No sir. Anything you are offering me that is contrary to what am seeing in the scripture pls keep it to yourself. I don't need it bros. Honestly, I ve not seen the stick-to-the-scripture thing you people have been screaming all these while each time we debate. Now that I ve calmed down to totally stick to the scriptures, what I ve seen you people do is interpreting scriptures to suit whatever idea you have. I no gree bros. We must truly and totally stick to the scripture. If you have a problem with my sticking totally to the scriptures then you need to check yourself as a christian. Drop all those your explanations. It is the bible that will be used to judge us on the day of judgment not your explanations.

@Alexo

stop being a hypocrite, if you have nothing to say then keep silent and read quietly.

This below is a thread you had opened to teach, but your catholic friends are asking you a question based on what you say you belief and said it is written in the bible but you cannot answer them, but rather abandoned your thread and come here to "Rove" about with nothing to offer still.

See your thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/1356155/what-happening-churches-really-bad/5

go there ^ and answer question, its your thread.

You are so empty for not knowing that revelation is written in signs and symbols.

I dont think i want to show you that.

*sigh*

olumyde: You don't like as he is holding purely to the word of God? Your post shows you are biased. The book of revelation is not all symbols. Is the new earth and new heaven not to be taken literally? Is dead rising not to be taken literally? I join alexeo in holding to God's word. Both you and ur colleagues have no answer to my conclusion, that's why you all avoided it.

"Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:" (Isaiah 28:9-10).

frosbel: I believe in 10 headed dragons, evil beings with women's hair and lions teeth etc etc.

Alexo have nothing to offer.

He is here hanging with his teeth to a literal understanding to a book written in symbols.

Who cares what he thinks !

I dont know what your are up to.

The angels that we are talking about are the ones that sinned in the days of noah.

superior1: Now, I can understand where you missed it.

Satans and his angels fall was it before or after adam was created?

"And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart." (Genesis 6:1-6).
........
^
The sons of God (angels) came down and marry the daughters of men befor the flood.

superior1: Peter used that word tartarus instead of hades, why?. Yorubas use the word Esu (one of the dieties) as Satan for lack of better word to use. A new very rural Christian community in Asia do not know what bread, so their bible reported 'Jesus is the rice of life' since rice is the only food they can relate with. Peter used Tartarus for a specific reason and any simple mind can easily understand the message he was passing to them.

When Tartarus is used by greeks, they are talking of a place not a condition. Peter said they are being binded in chains, do you bind people in chains and reserve them in chains in a place or just a condition of roaming about like you claimed?

You have a very big problem.

Those fallen angels in Noah's day were refused entrance into heaven and bared from materialiising into humans, but held inbetween in that state.

You are here saying they are in hell ?

Smh for you.

Can literal chains hold spiritual being ?

You have a long way to go.

superior1: What if we can prove that Tartarus Peter mentioned was the same Gehenna?

Gehenna was a refuse dump outside the walls of Jerusalem.