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Kay 17: ^^^

You can discuss Love if you wish, however it seems Wilberforce turned a blind eye to the numerous EXPRESS biblical verses that support and promote slavery. And they are quite self-evidential.

I can't see how you"d maintain love and then keep slaves. Because slavery is a destruction of personhood.

musKeeto: Being a vegetarian doesn't mean I choose to abstain from food. Vegetarians and non-vegetarians share one thing in common: food...

Now let's relate this with religion. As long as you believe in a God, it follows you'll be religious. Whatever diet you choose to follow is up to you, at the end you still eat food to survive.

An atheist has no beliefs in God. You'd be hard pressed to find an atheist who's religious,whatever that means..

In essence, while atheism isn't necessarily the opposite of religion (theism is, I think) I believe they are both mutually exclusive.

Now, to those who would say Christianity/Islam/whatever is not a religion but a way of life, please do us a favour by posting your Christian/Islamic threads in the Cultural section..

Ubenedictus: hehehehe, dis is a first. Does that mean i too will get d peck of peace.

debosky: @ truthislight

I have nothing to prove - your ignorance is clear for all to see. I won't respond any further to you.

Ubenedictus: I expected this, u must certain lash back with all the venom u can muster.
I'm a christian and a scientist, i didn't cause animals to be homosexual i only study d animals and take a look at d research of other scientist. the truth that some animals have transgender qualities and may be homosexuals.
hahaha, i knew u would say this and my ansa in No. Not all priests in d cath church are homosexual though homosexuals has found their way into the priesthood. Actually i see no reason to defend d said priest. They as suppose to be chaste.

u see you have totally misunderstood even d bible! Who told u dat d present nature is natural? Open ur bible and read about adams sin and u will see it had an effect on creation. After adam's sin creation wasn't perfect so i have no problem with the fact that homosexuals can be found among humans. Take this passage as homework Rm 8:22-24
we know that the whole of creation has been groaning in travail together until now and not only creation but we ourselves who have the first fruit of the spirit, groan inwardly as we wait for the adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. For in this hope we are saved creation isn't yet redeemed until our bodies are redeemed i.e d ressurection. Until then he who uses d natural only as a rule is in trouble.

truthislight: what you are asking for is too big and @Debosky is a nonentity to determined such.
Consider:

the judge of the univers the almighty God says his Judgment is perfect.

And that is true, if not, it will have been very glaring that he is not.

He said that to be save one must follow christ, but not all people have heard about christ, for that he commisioned that a preaching about christ be done on all the earth as a witness to all men to serve as a basis for his judgement befor sentencing.

Now, that ^ is Justice.

If he from the word go has sentence homosexuals, is it that he does not know what Debosky knows? Or, his judgment is crooked? No, none of the above.

But rather, he knows better, that the tendency is particular to the person and not out of the persons control and neither is it a default design from God.

If it is a default design from God/nature, why is it not repeated in other forms of life?
(an.al sex)

If you say it is not a Design by God, why has nature that we know is blind not repeat homosexuality partans(an.al sex)
among other forms of life? (birds, Animals, fishes,)
*smh*

Ubenedictus: i know phychologist who will look at it either way, both as a deep sitted orientation or a picked up habit. It may be fixable or d only option will be real chastity.

debosky: I'm not making any points

debosky: @kay17

The interpretation of bible scholars is based on the premise that homosexuality is neither inherent nor a human right. The view is that this is a perversion - a departure from 'nature'.

debosky: per se - I simply challenged the ignorance of truthislight's claim that there is 'no evidence of homosexuality in animals'.

debosky: His argument was that if it was 'natural' we would find it in animals, which we do.

debosky: My point in essence is this - many of those that glibly bandy about advice/opinion are not really knowledgeable about the subject they want to discuss with authority.

debosky: The appeal to nature for evidence is not sufficient evidence for either position,

debosky: but some ignorantly believe the absence of homosexuality in 'nature'/animals confirms the view that homosexuality is wrong - clearly this belief is not true.

Ubenedictus: oga logic, i know u have d worst ideas about me but ur weird ideas doesn't make me incapable of truth.

Ubenedictus: Neither does admitting homosexuality among animal mean i support it

debosky: @ truthislight

I have nothing to prove - your ignorance is clear for all to see. I won't respond any further to you.

Ubenedictus: oga truth take dis one easy oh! I believe if u do a little research u will find dat yes there a homosexuals in d animal kingdom.
2 cents.

alexleo: When an atheist agrees with a teaching...then trouble dey. Frosbel can only deceive weak christians with his useless message about tithing. I can only agree with him if he is preaching against greed in the church which of course goes beyond tithing.

Joagbaje: That's not the point. What do you say about christian couple quarreling before Neighbours who are not saved. No matter the point each is trying to communicate . I don't know if you get my point. Attacking the body of christ before sinners is wrong . You're simply destroying what you think you're building. If this were a christian forum lets fight it out if there need be. God even detest the idea of Christians selltlimg dispute before sinners. The body of christ is too honorable for this criticizing and attacking


1 Corinthians 6:5-6
I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.

Joagbaje: Preach the gospel brother,that's what sinners need to hear. that's what glorify christ. Not judging people you know little or nothing about. Ridiculing christ body openly for sinners to be more harden against christ. Leave men to be judge by their master.

1 Peter 4:15
But let none of you suffer as a. . .busybody in other men's matters.

frosbel: Did I expect you to understand ? Hmm , Nope !!!

Others will though !

debosky: What are you on about? For you to glibly claim there is no evidence of homosexuality in the animal world shows you are highly ignorant about what you are talking about.

I have not tried to educate God, just to point out YOUR ignorance.



http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal_2.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/5550488/Homosexual-behaviour-widespread-in-animals-according-to-new-study.html

Go and educate yourself and stop ranting. Don't make daft claims that there is no evidence of homosexuality in animals just to defend your position. God does not need your pathetic lies for his Word to remain true.

Logicboy03: Got me 2 recent followers


Fishers of men......



Dancing Azonto....evangelical atheist


LMAO

truthislight: Where is this guy that knows what Yahweh does not know?

@Debosky,
come ye out and educate your God on what he does not know.

Where art though?

@debosky,
it is your words against Yahweh's.
Come on out, rebel!

Kay 17: Couldn't it be said, that homosexuality is frowned in both Middle Eastern cultures and in cultures of the Asia Minor? Given that each context, Judaism and Christianity both accomodate some intolerance towards certain acts apart from homosexuality in their doctrines.

Could it be said that the bible can never escape the cultural contexts of the times it was written in?

frosbel: To still see people bow before the anti-christ , has to be one of the most heart breaking events in human history.

Logicboy03: Na scientific study be dis?


Did you pull this theory out of yer azz? Have you studied molested children yourself? HMM?

frosbel: Head of false church = Pope
Head of true church = Christ Jesus


1. World Power and Politics

- Pope loves power and politics and has used this to wield power over countless kingdoms while oppressing ,abusing and subjugating entire peoples.

- Jesus Christ said his kingdom is not of this world and rejected the devils offer of pomp, power and glory of earthly kingdoms.



2. War and Pillage

- Pope ruled a violent church that resorted to such cruelty and sadism to silence dissenters and critics that even Satan will be ashamed. He also waged war against Muslims and Jews, wiping out thousands of them with barbarism only Hitler will appreciate.

- Jesus never fought one battle or asked his followers to fight wars.



3. Saving lives

- Pope leads his followers to destruction and has been responsible for the inquisitions that have destroyed millions of lives over the last millennia.

- Jesus came to give life not to destroy it.



4. Wealth

- Pope is stinking rich and lives in a palace built with the indulgences paid for by the poor and peasants , under the guise of forgiveness of sins.

- Jesus did not even own a house talk less of wealth.



5. Reverence for God Almighty

- Pope directs people to the mother church so called , and him as the vicar of Christ.

- Jesus directs people to his Father, Yahweh , the one and only GOD who is over all.



6. S.exual perversion.

- The Pope resides over a pedophile and s.exually perverse ring and tries to cover up these wicked acts.

- Jesus forgave sinners who committed these vile sins but condemned the acts as abominations.



7. Mary

- Pope prays to Mary and elevates her to almost god-like status

- Jesus prays to Yahweh and considers Mary as any normal woman.


More to be added.

musKeeto: If atheism leads to immorality..
And atheists form a miniscule section of the Nigerian population...

musKeeto: Why's Nigeria, as religious as it is, placed so high on the corruption index? Can 'darkness' be stronger than 'light'?

debosky: This is the type of ignorance I'm talking about

debosky: - there is evidence of homosexuality 'partans' in animals.

debosky: Does that now mean it is a design from God?

debosky: This is the type of ignorance I'm talking about - there is evidence of homosexuality 'partans' in animals. Does that now mean it is a design from God?

Logicboy03: They need to listen to you. I agree with what you have just said


They on the other hand, want to give advice without even listening to what the gay person is saying or even understanding what they feel

Logicboy03: Truthislight, I need your opinion on something;

https://www.nairaland.com/1210342/christians-agree


Please give it a shot