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Bobbysworld28: Truthislight, I hv a baby & believe me sucking isn't instinctive. Hv u forgotten dt in d womb they only ate through d umblical cord? Hw then can they knw instinctively dt feeding is from d mouth upon exit 4rm d womb? Let ur wife hv a baby, then u come back & talk.
I'm a father & I've observed this. Instinct kicks in after u put it in d first time & then d baby realises there is a new mode of feeding.
I believe ur question is apt 4 u

What!

I said sucking is instinctive and you said that ^?

After your wife puts the brea.st in the babies mouth, i belief she subsequent taught the baby to "suck"!

Smh.

Beretta92: Nice thread. Lol @ d ihedinobi post 4rm muskeeto just atop mine.

Eh!
which One be your own post up there

Abeg, do you have two IDs.

Lol. "on top mine".

Which one?

Bobbysworld28: Ooman I luv intelligent arguments but on this one u hv bn pinned. U said children r born without belief. Belief in wht? In God? Can I dare say they hv also bn born without belief in atheism?
U mention they hv reflexes like sucking. Dts untrue. They can't evn suck because there is no pre knowledge abt sucking until they r taught by putting it in their mouth.
Ur argument is very hollow in dis regard. Kindly admit u hv bn roundly defeated.
Cheers

^^^

The worst low is that he does not know that sucking of breast by infant is instinctive (purely by instinct).

On what Basis of rationality can one really be able to extract knowledge from such a one if one was to engage him?


smh.

italo: Brother, you have a superior Bible knowledge, please tell me. I too want to know the person.

I dont have "a superior bible knowledge", am still learning.

Care to educate me?
Thank you in anticipation.
Peace.

Enigma: Not wasting one's time with idiocy and its peddlers is a different matter from to "disappear/bolt away."

lol.

Who wants to do enigma vex. Lol.

Oga, how far nah?

I have always looked at this portion of the bible with curiosity >>>

frosbel: "Don't be fooled by what they say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed--the one who brings destruction." - 2 Thessalonians 2:3

And this:

"Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called god, or that is worshipped; so that he as god sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is god." (2 Thessalonians 2:4).
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Who is this person that is sitteth on the temple of the Gods?

Syncan: Oh...how our zeal to condemn drives us far from God. Irrespective of your mode of worship of the christian God, if what comes from you is not from the father of truth, it will surely come from the father of lies. The spirit of truth is also the spirit of humility and that is the one called "LOVE". By their fruits we shall know them. Frosbel! only the truth shall set you free. When you're wrong, please say "Sorry,I'm wrong". That's christianity!Anything else is from the enemy.

So, minus the chant called "hail mary", the pope does not know Withing himself that Jesus is the head of Christianity?

It is really a shame.
How then will he even remember the father?
Was that the way of the apostles that basically sang Jesus christ to people?

Frosbel, the pope if he is a follower of christ, he should not have waited for a chant to remember his leader.

If the head is not digging on christ directly but madona in his first speech what do you expect from others?

Maybe he was too ashamed to mention the name of Jesus christ directly to the whole world watching.

Ok, he does not have christ dead body it seems.
Smh.

Beside, being a follower of christ even goes beyond the mentioning of christ name, you live it 24/7.

However, how will you direct the worldwide viewers to christ if you cant talk about christ to all of them directly?

Was it a political gathering or a christian one?

The truth is, if it is just the "hail mary" that brought up Jesus name, then the pope did not mention Jesus name in his personal speech and frosbel was right.

Is "hail mary" his personal speech?
Was "hail mary" not in use befor he the pope was born?

Was his speech the whole congregation speech?

homosapiens: Olodo. says who that children are born with lack of knowledge? children are born with reflexes, fixed action patterns and instinct greater than you apparently have. this is why babies know to suck brea.st rather than to eat it, to laugh in comfort and cry in pain, to crawl, putting anything eatable to their mouth rather than their nose.

the lack of knowledge of the religious is alarming.

infant!

Are all atheist like you?(so empty)

you are too low for me to banta words with as such, silence is the best answer for a ........
Ciao and peace.

homosapeins: Now you have another christian brother.
JESUS IS LORD!!!

O my gosh!

Why nah!?

Now you will make him change his ID.

homosapeins: Now you have another christian brother.
JESUS IS LORD!!!

O my gosh!

Why nah!?

Now you will make him change his ID.

ooman: You are sarcastically refering to yourself.

Its proven that I understand this quite well. I provided reasonable logics, you provided nothing but sentiments, begging me to stop saying the truth.

Children are born with lack of belief, atheism equals lack of belief so children are born as atheists, what's so hard to understand in that?

lol.

Erm! I thought children are born with lack of knowledge since they are without experience? .

Are atheist without knowledge?

Well, you said it yourself?

thehomer: Sure. Until he sits on his golden throne.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Lollollollol. In 1000 languages including chinese.

Guy YOU funny die.

Sure, but true.

thehomer: My question to put it simply is "where is the correction to the Bible"?

how can a blind man correct the bible?

You that cannot see or know what is good or bad?

*sigh* keep deceiving your self.

Trying to bend the bible to suite your corrupt life style abi?

thehomer: After all, if these were mere misrepresentations, then what else in the Bible was misrepresented?

misrepresent? By who? People limitations has nothing to do with the bible.

thehomer: slavery, Noah's ark and Could the creation be a misrepresentation? Could Jonah and the big fish? Balaam and his donkey,

guy, are you high on Jamaican vegetable? Lol.

Who sent you. With your blindness, how can you understand spirituality or spiritual things?

Ok, if you understand anything, tell me what sustain your life as you are there?
Ah! No answer! I know, You will blank out, how then can you step into the unknown realm of spiritual matters?

(1 Corinthians 2:13-14).
"Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy spirit teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual things. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." (1 Corinthians 2:13-14).
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Water has it level, but you dont know your level it seems.

thehomer: homosexuality,

Ah! Now you have spoken the only kind of thing your type knows, unnatural immorality.

Why did you not go straight to the point instead of going round and round and beating about the bushes?

It is in your blood and it has eaten too dip into you, just leave the bible out of it.
Cant you just continue your ar.se fucking life and leave the bible alone?

thehomer: those other stories and commands have been misrepresentations?

No they have not and they are not.

Says who by the way?

Your type will not understand, just as you dont understand how you happened to be alive now, or can you? No.

Leave the bible alone since you cant understand spiritual things, my advice to you all.
Peace.

thehomer: So who is lying here?

I think the lying bit are you and your type that are bend from inside out.

you red that the Amalikite attacked the people of Yahweh (Israel) unprovoked killing women, children, animal on their way out of Egypt and you see nothing wrong with it.

The Worshpers of satan killing the people of yahweh is ok with you, why?

Are you blind not to see that the Amalikite were evil?

thehomer: If they weren't God's actual words,

this were men led by the spirit of God, they are note like you with a poor sense of judgement. Rationality shows consideration when it does not break God's stated commandment or instructions.
Not your type that is crooked in almost every front.

thehomer: why didn't he bother to correct them?

what nonsense! Correct what?
The law is life for life (soul for soul)

if the Amalikite killed men, women, children, animal(livestocks) of the Israelite on their way out of egypt to the promise land, so shall it be to them. = justice.

Are you blind?

Crooked humans like YOU are so blind to see that what the Amalikite did under the coaching of their God(satan) was bad.

thehomer: He must have known that those of us who would live milenia later will see that as him being an Evil God?

Which "of us" are you talking about?
Blind kind/type like you?

Am i not living in this melanie? Rubbish!

Your blind type that dont know what is bad or evil are not a yerdstick to use as a reference
to judge yahweh, you are only exposing your ignorance.

Thinks you support and dont know it is a destructive tendency to the human person is an indication of your sense of Justice being crooked.

Every apotunity you lot have is to twist the bible to suit your twisted minds.

Smh.

Creatrixity: was..now rather deist by the way..In other words there is a central body of creative energy called God not represented by this worlds religions..
And p.s he/it doesnt give a damn about humans and their petty affairs...
And why do you think jimmy swaggart runs a malicicious ministry..
The only thing i see him do is sing christian songs

Keep quite!
You talk as though he is your next door neighbour.

Hypocrite!

We have some juvenile on the loose.

ooman: I thought I had the username first, but when I was told I didn't, I opened a new one. This should show you how sincere I am and teach you sincerity in atheistic way, its simplicity.

Peace out

https://www.nairaland.com/1226781/bye-bye-ooman

lol.

ooman: What is it that you have problems with about my changing the username? Its my life, I can decide to open a billion username, its non of your friking business.

This has nothing to do with intelligence, why are you to quick to blame this on intelligence? Are you having doubts about yours?

O! I see!

It has nothing to do with intelligence that you could not rationally deduce what was going on but some one else who is theist was able to redirect your erroniouse assumption.

If it has nothing to do with intelligence now, do we say that the theist who pointed it out was foolish or unintelligent?

Were you then being myopic?

Smh.

ooman: Exactly. The more religious people are, the less intelligent and the more intelligent people are, the less religious.

Jesus must have been very "less intelligent" then for being absolutely religious.

Smh for some kind "intelligent people".

Logicboy03: Talk about a self righteous, bigoted hypocrite.

What does Ooman's predicament have to do with intelligence and God's existence?


Abegi

Same shallow mentality!
smh.

is there much you have capacity to comprehend?
*sigh*

west of band width.

v

ooman: Mods, there is an impostor galumphing around nairaland impersonating me. His username is ocman, he is a religious person and all his posts are making me go bonkers as I am atheist.

Pls do something about this sociopath with no aim in mind but to vilify me.

My username is ooman and I can Imagine no other reason why any thinking sapiens would want to bear ocman without being a pseud with no intention in mind but to corrupt my atheism by parading ooman as a xtian.

My identity is important to me, I do not joke with it, this is why I make sure that I clear all misunderstandings on nairaland. I therefore request that something be done about this act of terrorism or I might have to open another account with a new username.

*Ocman registered 2007*
*Ooman registered 2010*

who should be impersonating who?
Who Or Which came first?

ooman: ^^good of you to do that.

Mods, is there anyway I can change my username. If not, then this is bye bye to ooman.

now reality sets in ^.

Tells one alot about the judgement of "super intelligent atheist" = "there is No God" Indeed

I dont wish another reality to set in on you though.

(Jeremiah 10:23).
"O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps." (Jeremiah 10:23).

This is 2nd to the last post i gave as a reply up there, i just notice that it was not clear so i corrected it and reposted it here:

Jsmyth: The Bible never said anything about creating animals in his own image....The animals like chimps were created for their own purpose whatever it may be.....God deals with Man(his children) that he created in his own image.

but you said we are in God's image because of our form as humans?

I was only telling you that the form that humans have, chimps also have, animal also have it. Two hands, two legs, shape etc, are they also in the image of God?

My idea of "in God's image" is in the quality that God has as in Justice, love, freewill, intelligence. Etc.

Jsmyth: We do not believe in trinity, trinity says that the 3 Gods are 1person.......we teach that they are 3 separate beings united in 1 purpose.

the word trinity is not in the bible.
But you express the idea of one of the varian.

you have the idea of trinity in the intruduction of your book of Mormon by Joseph smith or so.

Check well, trinity has many varian, including your own. Yours is just another version.

Jsmyth: The Book of Mormon - another testament of Jesus Christ which is found only in our church.

is that ^ not your own opinion(Mormon)?

Your words!
You are entitle to your own opinion though.

Jsmyth: The Book of Mormon testifies of the bible to be true and the Bible testifies of the Book of Mormon to be true...

lol. You wish the bible to say what it does not say.

Lol about "sticks".
Cool down guy.

Read the bible well, they say different things.

Jsmyth: Together, they provide the fullness of the Gospel......

lol. You only need the bible to proof your book of Mormon, once anybody takes you seriously you will denied the bible that it is wrong.

Jsmyth: This is what we have that other Christian dominations don't have.

so, only the bible cannot saved right? Then, the apostle of Jesus may have deceived the majority of mankind.
Expercialy the once that have died in the past 1700yrs or so befor the book of Mormon.

Jesus christ have deceived all of these ^ people, since he did not "produce the book of Mormon" on time.

But the book of Mormon contradic the bible. No?

Jsmyth: I never said anything about trinity or it being a Bible based teaching.

Jsmyth: Yes!....he(Son) is the second in the Godhead while God(Father) is the head. Jesus Christ is [a]God.

lol. Is that ^ tutulogy?

Pls. Explain.

Jsmyth: I hope you agree with me that Jesus Christ even when he had ressurrected had an immortal glorified body

Jesus is not almighty God that has no beginning.

We are talking about God almighty. We have seen christ but "No man have/can see God almighty".

Jsmyth: of flesh and bone.....He told Thomas(coz he tot Jesus was a spirit) touch me, feel my hands, he ate and dined with them and told them that he is not a spirit for a spirit hath no flesh were it not so he would not av eaten with them.....(John 14 : 9) says ...HE THAT HATH SEEN ME, HATH SEEN THE FATHER, and how sayest thou then, shew us the Father.......(2Cor 4 : 4) ...lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God.......(Philip. 2 : 5-6) let this mind be in you, which was also Christ Jesus ; who being in the form of God.......(Col 1 : 15) ...who(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God...............( Heb 1 : 3) who(Jesus) being in the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person(God)...................many other scriptures tell us that Man was created in God's image, his form, ressemblance....which means that God has a body just like Man.......(James 3 : 9) therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.......(1Tim 3 : 16) ...God was manifest in the flesh ; justified ain the spirit.........I haven't included Book of Mormon scripture passages which testifies of and affirms and adds more knowledge to what the Bible has said alread, since am pretty sure you will outrightly condemn......

Beware of self deceit.
The bible can be quoted to support any thing, but it does not mean it will scale through Genesis to Revelation.

The bible is a different book from the book of Mormon and the quran.

And they teach completely different things.
Peace.

Jsmyth: Well truthislight, av given you passages in the Bible that support my claim of the eternal nature of God, I haven't added the Book of Mormon o which also supports what the Bible is saying, since you would just discredit it, yet you say they teach different things and you said something about self deceit....I don't want to go into much details sha but am challenging you today to try and get a copy of the Book of Mormon and read for yourself ; if you don't find any atom of truth in it, forget it and the church.......

For clarification, we don't believe in/teach trinity.....we call it GODHEAD which I explained earlier on.

Also, we believe the BIBLE very well to be the word of GOD as well as THE BOOK OF MORMON.

as you wish!

By there fruit you will know them.

Even Olumba Olumba says he is God(the comforter) Holy spirit.

And people see him, believed him and worship him, so, you are free to claim whatever you wish.

Your bone and flesh god is seen you say and yet you worship him.

(John 4:24).
"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. " (John 4:24).

That ^ is what the God of the bible is, your bone and flash god, na you sabi!

What about your belief in the immortal soul?
Care to explain that?

manmustwac: Why do you hate catholics so much? Live & let live dude

Were you a former RCC member?
Just asking!

I notice that about 90% of atheist on this forum are former RCC(Roman Catholic church) members.

Smh. What an achievement!
Hmmm!

Logicboy03: Or do you believe that all atheists are fools? Is Seun a fool?

Just curious.

When did Seun became an atheist?

Befor owning NL or after owning NL?
Thanks.

advocate666: Intelligent christian is an oxymoron.

where is this guy self?

Is he still ok?

I once saw a deleted thread saying he is dead or so. is it true or FALSE?

On topic, pride and trusting on ones self makes one proud and not to "keep on asking".

No Matter how wise a fish inside water is, it will never understand how and why human live outside water without dying.

Think about that ^

daroz: no be lie u lie o, no body truely reply

Why are you still "observing days and seasons"? Are you still under the law? Am not!

All days of the weeks are there and can be use for worship, why restrict yourself to a single day?

Why Judge people on the basis of "days and seasons and of observant of a sabbath"?

We are christians, are you not?

And how do you use only sabbath to do this work?:

(Matthew 24:14).
"And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. " (Matthew 24:14).
................................

Infact, how do you obey and do that ^ work?
please explain.

I worship God in all the days, i dont know what you mean by "sunday or sabbath", care to explain what that ^ has to do with christian that are not under the law?

Jsmyth: The Bible never said anything about creating animals in his own image....The animals like chimps were created for their own purpose whatever it may be.....God deals with Man(his children) that he created in his own image.

but you said we are in God's image because of our form as humans?

I was only telling you that the form that human have, chimps also have, animal also have it. Two hands, two legs, shape etc, are they also in the image of God?

My idea of "in God's image" is in the quality that God has as in Justice, love, freewill, intelligence. Etc.

Jsmyth: We do not believe in trinity, trinity says that the 3 Gods are 1person.......we teach that they are 3 separate beings united in 1 purpose.

the word trinity is not in the bible.
But you express the idea of one of the varian.

you have the idea of trinity in the intruduction of your book of Mormon by James smith or so.

Check well, trinity has many varian, including your own.

Jsmyth: The Book of Mormon - another testament of Jesus Christ which is found only in our church.

is that ^ not your own opinion(Mormon)?

Your words!
You are entitle to your own opinion though.

Jsmyth: The Book of Mormon testifies of the bible to be true and the Bible testifies of the Book of Mormon to be true...

lol. You wish the bible to say what it does not say.

Lol about "sticks".
Cool down guy.

Read the bible well, they say different things.

Jsmyth: Together, they provide the fullness of the Gospel......

lol. You only need the bible to proof your book of Mormon, once anybody takes you seriously you will denied the bible that it is wrong.

Jsmyth: This is what we have that other Christian dominations don't have.

so, only the bible cannot saved right? Then, the apostle of Jesus may have deceived the majority of mankind.
Expercialy the once that have died in the past 1700yrs or so befor the book of Mormon.

Jesus christ have deceived all of these ^ people, since he did not "produce the book of Mormon" on time.

But the book of Mormon contradic the bible. No?

Jsmyth: I never said anything about trinity or it being a Bible based teaching.

Jsmyth: Yes!....he(Son) is the second in the Godhead while God(Father) is the head. Jesus Christ is [a]God.

lol. Is that ^ tutulogy?

Pls. Explain.

Jsmyth: I hope you agree with me that Jesus Christ even when he had ressurrected had an immortal glorified body

Jesus is not almighty God that has no beginning.

We are talking about God almighty. We have seen christ but "No man have/can see God almighty".

Jsmyth: of flesh and bone.....He told Thomas(coz he tot Jesus was a spirit) touch me, feel my hands, he ate and dined with them and told them that he is not a spirit for a spirit hath no flesh were it not so he would not av eaten with them.....(John 14 : 9) says ...HE THAT HATH SEEN ME, HATH SEEN THE FATHER, and how sayest thou then, shew us the Father.......(2Cor 4 : 4) ...lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God.......(Philip. 2 : 5-6) let this mind be in you, which was also Christ Jesus ; who being in the form of God.......(Col 1 : 15) ...who(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God...............( Heb 1 : 3) who(Jesus) being in the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person(God)...................many other scriptures tell us that Man was created in God's image, his form, ressemblance....which means that God has a body just like Man.......(James 3 : 9) therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.......(1Tim 3 : 16) ...God was manifest in the flesh ; justified ain the spirit.........I haven't included Book of Mormon scripture passages which testifies of and affirms and adds more knowledge to what the Bible has said alread, since am pretty sure you will outrightly condemn......

Beware of self deceit.
The bible can be quoted to support any thing, but it does not mean it will scale through Genesis to Revelation.

The bible is a different book from the book of Mormon and the quran.

And they teach completely different things.
Peace.

There comes a time that we find it difficult to identify which are assumptions and which are facts as it seems.

InesQor: Ubenedictus. Please provide more insight if you have such.

true ^ talk.

Should he not have had facts or references/sources to back up his claims?

Please, Ubenedictus, do you mind providing the sources for what you are saying?

Should we rather take to the bank all you have said without evidence?

Please oblige InesQor, and by extension other readers.
thanks.

InesQor: Ubenedictus. Please provide more insight if you have such.

Jsmyth: If that is a sincere advice and not an insult, thank you...

what is the value of my insulting you when you have not done any thing to call for it?

Jsmyth: I apologize for not being clear, but I implore you, if you take time to read the post, you'll pick out my replies to your to earlier comment....anywaiz, i'll try 2 modify it.

ok.
This is the way to quote in parts,
see below:
From your post up there that i splitted in two, i will alter it so that it shows you what and how it is done:





[quote author=Jsmyth]If that is a sincere advice and not an insult, thank you...
[/quote ]

what is the value of my insulting you when you have not done any thing to call for it?

[quote author=Jsmyth]I apologize for not being clear, but I implore you, if you take time to read the post, you'll pick out my replies to your to earlier comment....anywaiz, i'll try 2 modify it. [/quote ]


see ^^^.
take not of the up and down of your comment how i inserted your comment between the quotes.

After the up and down quotes of your comment, i place my comment under it.
Peace.

[quote author=Jsmyth][/quote]Guy, why not go to the Mod thread and ask how to quote aspects of posters post?

As you can see, i could not really address(quote) or fully comprehend your reply to me as it all appeared quoted.

Better still, remove the part of my post and post yours directly so that your post will be clearer pending when you master how to quote aspect or other posters post.

Peace

Pastor AIO: Yeah, you're right there. It is masoretic with certain key words essential to christians doctrine kept intact for obvious reasons. The biggest difference would be the exclusion of books that are in the septuagint such as Sirach and Maccabees etc. . .

I dont see why the apocriphal translation along with other books in the septuagint will become the bone now.

Lets say the mandate given to the "72" were generous to capture availabe circulating books.

I see it as being that they were translated as other books that were around to enable the greek readers to be able to read all availabe books in greek and not to give authority as to which sort of books are genuine or not.

So, using the inclusion of the apocriphal books in the translation of the septuagint may not give the veracity needed for those book(apocriphals) as being this or that.

The bone i think is in the quality of the translation and not in the books captured per se in the septuagint, in this thread, unless otherwise stated.
Peace.